Why You Should Buy The Line 6 M5 Stomp Box Modeler Guitar Pedal
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- čas přidán 19. 02. 2021
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The Line 6 M5 Stomp Box Modeler!
Want like every effect pedal ever made? Cool, You got it.
Wanna control those pedals with the touch of a button? Yeah, who the F*ck Doesn't. MIDI BABY!
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Dude, in a few minutes you told me more about this pedal than anyone before! Just got one for $99! Thanks 🤘🤘
Awesome!! Glad I could be informative! Enjoy the new pedal! 🤘🏼😜
Ive been waiting one of these!! Thanks for the review man!!
Welcome Dude! 🤘🏼😜
Hello!Amazing video!I have one and you made me to keep this pedal on my board!I have the Line 6 Dm4 and is amazing too!I recommend!Thanks!🙏👍
Best one I’ve seen so far!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🙏🎸🎸
Glad you enjoyed it!
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Just got an HX stomp- im LOVIN it! Keep shreddin mad mann!
Nice! I’ve used the M5, M9 and the Helix HX Effects for a while! Love em all!
How do you like the Amp Modeling on the Stomp?
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You convinced me. Im getting this for damn sure.
Get It! 🤘🏼😜
Cool demonstration!
Thanks! 🤘🏼😜
That Particle Verb is really interesting. I wanna combine this pedal with my soon to arrive Lyra-8 and my Elektron Digitakt
THX!!!
The particle verb is way cool!
Considering this pedal is a jack of all trades you have to be mindful that it cant put as much focus on certain specific things like a stand alone pedal can, but it definitely gets the job done.
I hope you enjoy it!!
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Great lay out man!
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Bought a used one today... this thing is sweet
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I gassed for this pedal when it came out and I still use it to this day. The midi control is slick, it tracks expression and on/off controls really quickly. I'd say the dirt sounds are the worst part, they have that upper mids harshness like old boss multifx used to have. And the lack of a volume/sensitivity control on some fx is a pain but I'd still 100% recommend it.
I love this little guy! Considering I’m always using it with an EVH, I really only use it in two different situations.
1- In front of the amp as a all in one Gate/Tuner/OverDrive.
Or 2 - In the FX Loop as a MIDI Programable Delay/Reverb.
Just these two setups make this thing completely Invaluable in my Collection!
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@@MadManMusic I just built a patch switcher for it with an Arduino that also has a switch that ramps the expression control up and down. I can turn the pedal on momentarily too or a combination of both. I have some relay boards lying around I *might* build an order changer so the pedal flips between in front of the amp and in the fx loop. Could make it dependent on the preset number...
Wow! Nice! Its awesome you’re able to create the gear you need to fill the gaps! 🤘🏼😜
Been thinking of using the midi and expression options. I have my M5 in the effects loop of my Digitech RP1. I use it for the phaser, flanger, chorus, harmony and octave effects. I use a mono "Y" cable on the output of the M5 into the mono return of the RP1 to get a better lush effect from the M5.
MIDI is cool! I love it. I'll eventually talk about it some more on this channel along with a bunch of other "Rigg Tips".
But yeah, its definitely worth exploring!
Let us know how it works out for you! 🤘🏼😜
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Didn’t even know that existed.. that’s a good price on it too. Well done brother! 👊🏻
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I bought this just for a delay pedal. I played a Spider II for ever, mainly for it's unique Tape Delay, which sounds like a foggy, under water submarine ping, ha. Badass! But I've upgraded to a Marshall DSL 40 watt tuber, so I needed my Line6 delay.. This is much cheaper and takes up less space than DL4. Also, the reverb is immaculate on this as well. Thanks for explaining the whole midi control thing. Game changer!
I just got a hold of a Kemper…. And I’m STILL not Selling this Line 6 M5!
Its a swiss army knife and its so easy.. you cant not have it!
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@@MadManMusic I just came across a Mooer L6 Pedal Controller for sale near me. Is that compatible with this M5? And will I be able to ,say mix particle verb with analog delay at the same time with that?
Im not sure what you mean by “Compatible” but as long as the two pedals have Midi capabilities and they have Midi Thru and can set specific channels for your controller to communicate with them separately but at the same time.
No compatibility required! 🤘🏼😜
@@MadManMusic ok thanks.
After owning a variety of Line 6 products (Line 6 M5, M9, Helix , Helix LT, Pod Go, HX Effects), its ironic to find myself ordering a M5 once again to fulfill the need of a delay/reverb box on my stompbox board....
Great video dude :)
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It really works great for so many things!!
Thanks for watching! 🤘🏼😜
@@MadManMusic Its built like a tank and as you said it runs off standard power supplies ; all the algorithms still sound good as I still use loads of the legacy stuff on the Helix LT when I gig :)
I’ve just received a used one today via EBay, I’ve wanted one for sometime cos as mentioned it has pretty much every type effect you could ever need, for t just saves on going out and buying 20, 40 individual pedals for particular FX that ends up cost a fortune and just increases those possible problems with hum, interference, tone loss, dicky cables the more pedals you add in your chain. Every player should get one of these for ease of use, great sounding FX, built to last, just a damn excellent bit for the price whether you buy new or used, got mine on EBay in UK for £40!!!!!! Yep £40!!!!! a proper bargain!! You’ll pretty much have to mow pay around £30 for at least one budget FX pedal, so it’s a no brainier! Thanks for your video mate keepbup your great work.
Im so stoked!! Glad you got one and you’re enjoying it! Thats a great find for that price!
Enjoy!
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@@MadManMusic nice one bro I’m loving it!! The best £40 ever spent on music gear ever!! The FX sound lovely, great delays, reverbs, filters, the modulations for me are excellent, the warmth, depth, colour, timbre they give are definitely top notch!
I’ve heard so many say that the drives/distortions or the weakest area and sound poor compared to individual pedals, I don’t profess to be a master of drives etc but the ones in the M5 I’ve used so far such as the Facial Fuzz, Classic Distortion (RAT), Ictave Fuzz all seem to work well enough for me and dialling in Editing parameters seem to sound decent enough and I can’t see anyone in the crowd at future gigs turning round saying the guitars were good but that overdrive or distortion effect he was using sound poor and he should be using a Klon, Vemuram Jan Ray, Timmy, OCD, Ibanez TS9, Strymon Sunset etc they wouldn’t have clue and I doubt many decent guitar players with great setups would be able to slate the sounds I’ve dialled in either, I’m happy to work with the gear I have at my disposal and create the best tones I can, and more often than not great sounding drives can be achieved spending a bit of time creating and editing parameters to personalise your own individual sounding guitar tones and I definitely won’t get hung up cos I’ve not paid 5L for a Klon or waited 4 years to get a king of Tone. I’m pretty certain the M5 will definitely be a main stay in my guitar setup for a very long time if not forever .
You’re absolutely right! No one is going to know the difference, especially if you use it well.
I dont think dialing in tone is rocket science. Its just being aware of frequencies or sounds that are unpleasant. And with as many tools as you have at your disposal in this one pedal alone the jobs half way done!
Im glad you’re enjoying it! 💪🏼
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@@MadManMusic glad you said it dialling in tone and editing parameters isn’t rocket science I just find so many people expect to click on presets and expect them to sound great immediately, but we all like different sounds so editing parameters to develop your own sound is being creative and you learn plenty and how things will react with other things giving very different results. On the M5 many of the effects already sound really good anyway there’s not to much editing ti be done.
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Your clean sound is so open and big sounding. The pedal sounds compressed like crazy. Not bad sounds, but it would be awesome to have it as open as the direct signal.
Yeah that particular high gain tone isn’t what I would normally go for.
But its interesting that that this pedal is capable of so much.
Thanks for watching!
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@@MadManMusic the funny thing is, I commented after listening to the first two tones. Then the third tone was the reverb….open and beautiful sounding. Haha. I 100% spoke too soon.
Plus I’m a huge believer in line 6 Modeler pedals. I had the m13 for years, went to individual pedals…now I have a helix. It’s TOO Good!!!
I’ve also been a Line 6 user for ages. I had the POD XT Pro back in the day, an M9 and a Helix HX Effects. I loved everyone of them but… I couldn’t really get High Gain tone I liked..
Now I have a Kemper Stage and I have Profiled my EVH 5153 and I made an IR of my Marshall Cab.. so it’s literally my amp in this lil green box.. its wild!!
I’m gonna be making some videos on that soon!
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Hey man! I was wondering if I could ask you a favor. Any chance you would do a playthrough or lesson of "Lesson Learned" from FTOF? Getting tripped up on a few parts.
If not no biggie but it would be appreciated!
Thanks for everything!!
I’m considering doing some Pro-Pain jams and possibly making it a lesson style thing. I’ll add this idea to the list!
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hey! great video... a few questions for you: #1 do you find there is any tone suck when using the m5? #2 is the tuner chromatic and work well for downtuned guitars?
It can be set to True Bypass, but I think it sounds great without it and it works a bit smoother.
I play a Seven String Guitar and the Tuner works great!
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@@MadManMusic awesome thanks!
Fantastic
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@@MadManMusic Im ready to click the buy bottom right now to buy one of these... thank you!!!! You rock..
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Nice! Have you heard about the audio mods to the M series?
I have not!! Sounds interesting, What sort of Mods are we Talkin about??
It's amazing and I got it for the delays, but I use it mostly as an overdrive, w/Heavy Distortion, so flexiable, and I use mine w/ myBoss Katana MK2 100, 1/12.This allows me A TON of sounds and tonal shaping, #NEVERPUTITDOWN
Awesome!
I really cant say enough good stuff about this pedal. I just sold my HX Effects… but i dont think I’ll ever sell this M5 unit!
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you can also control the wha and the pitch shifter thru midi
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Hey I’m looking for something to give my clean channel some effects, I like my distorted tone as it is, and the clean channel isn’t bad but I’d like to add maybe some reverb, some delay, etc, is this pedal capable of that? I hope my question is clear with what I’m trying to ask lol.
Hey thanks for the question.
The M5 Models every type of Guitar Effect including Delays and Reverbs.
However, keep in mind this Pedal will only allow you to use 1 Effect at a time. So Just Delay or Just Reverb.
And in order to only use the effect on just the Clean Channel you'll need some sort of switching system to control the pedal On and Off when you change between Clean and Dirty. (MIDI)
Its totally Doable. But it will be slightly more complicated if you're trying to change many things at once.
I hope that helps!
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I have a question, is it possible to keep the settings in M5 of individual effects (not presets mode!) such as equalizer or tone in overdrive.
In setup I have auto preservation settings, but still when I change and go/return the settings remain firm.
Maybe I am misunderstanding, but shouldn't the change of settings be saved according to the user and setup?
Its my understanding that this “Setting Preservation” setting is when you change the settings of a saved preset.
So 1-24 if you make an adjustment it will automatically save it if you change the Patch..
But it may not save it permanently, it may only hold the info until the unit is powered off unless it’s manually saved..
Hopefully that’s helpful.. this is a tricky one and I’m currently out on tour so I dont have my M5 nearby to try it.
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I’m buying one tomorrow for $50 on FB market place 💪
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Can you plug right into a sound system, or do you need to use an amp? Thanks! :)
Well this is a “Stompbox” Modeler. So there are no amp models.. you can use it the same way you use any Stompbox Effect.
So yes, you can plug it into whatever you like. For instance, you could use this with a microphone for vocals with the correct cables. (1/4” TRS)
I hope that helps.
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Can you move around presets and place them in desire order? Does an acoustic patch in it?
Its has 25 (or so) Banks to place Any Effect you would like into.
And are you asking if it has an Acoustic Simulator in it?? And not sure but it’s possible and that generally falls under “EQ” Effects so you may be able to achieve a similar effect using one of the more detailed EQ options.
Hope that helps!
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Could you put a Wah-pedal before the M5? I want to use the M5 and a Wah at the same time.
Yup! You can even add an Expression Pedal and use it AS a Wah Pedal!
Just be sure to set up your signal chain appropriately. Wahs, Overdrives, and most Modulations in front of your amp and delays and reverbs in the FX Loop.
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I have a unique dilemma you may be able to help with. I have a multi-effect unit (GT100) with midi ins and outs. I also have the Line6 M5 with midi ins and outs. I would like them to communicate so i can use the Line6 (with Expression pedal) to act as a controller for the Boss GT-100s Wah. I realize that I could simply attach the Exp pedal directly to the GT-100, but it would take up a sub ctrl jack that i need for something else. I suppose the question is, will the Line 6 M5 transmit expression pedal data via midi, to be received by a Boss Gt-100 which is also a programmable midi controller. You are spot on about the M5, its visible on lots of pro-boards too. Thanks Brother, Liked and Subscribed!
Hey Thanks for Joinin the Crew and for the Question!
Your idea is a little complicated... but not really impossible..
The issue i think you’ll have (off the top of my head) is that the Expression Pedal Options are Limited on the M5.. you may not be able to designate a CC to it to control something else..
You’ll have to go into the settings menu by holding the Tuner Button and Pressing the Select button on the top left.
Make sure that the Midi channels match with your other pedal and see if that works...
Otherwise you’ll need a separate controller like this Decibel Eleven Switch Dr I’m using. I have a 3rd expression pedal connected to my Line 6 HX Effects... but thats possible because both units have deep Midi options..
Im sorry if thats not so helpful... but if you do manage to make it work, be sure to come back and let us know!
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Hi, the M5 transmits program changes when you change presets on it, but if you send it a program change it doesn't send it back out. So, I don't think using the analog expression pedal would make it transmit midi expression data. And even if it did you'd have to make sure the cc messages were the same on the GT.
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the m5 only receives and bypass midi messages, you need a host that commands in order to do that. I have a boss ms 3 to control al my midi devices with the expresion pedal attached to the ms 3. its grate but i still preffer to have an outboard wha. also consider that if you use a volume pedal option on the expresion pedal you have to think how to swing from wha on by default or toggle on of with a button and not kill your sound once you get out of the effect. this is the same with pitch shift, by default volumen on 100% is all the way low, that octave high by default on the pitch shifter patch.
This or the zoom ms50 or ms70? to compliment a multifx like hx stomp.
I haven’t tried those pedals.. so i couldn’t tell you which. But you should go with the one that offers the features you’re looking for!
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It is the best money I ever spent on a guitar effect.
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what do you think about the ground issue in this line6 M5
Hey! Im not aware of any. Mine sounds clean…
If you’re experiencing a ground issue, check your power supply.
Hope that helps!
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By they’re pushing these hard at the moment.......good pedal
I'm not sure I know who "They" are but I just enjoy this pedal and I wanted to share it with other so they might enjoy it too. 🤘🏼😜
I was thinking the same thing, Im seeing this pedal pop up on loads of channels now, even though its ancient - could be coincidence? gonna go watch that Reverb graph go up!
@@shaneoneill2832 Cookies man. Google's always watching you. 😳
Again, I just made this video because I own this pedal, it's awesome, and i wanted to share that with people who also like awesome things.
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@@MadManMusic yeah probably cookies - appreciate your videos! I'm torn between this and the boss MS-3
Thanks dude!
If I was able to get my hands on one, I‘d definitely make a video on it.
Let us know what you decide!
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THANK YOU AND GOD'S BLESSINGS.
Is there any latency when changing presets/patches?
I wouldn't say there is none, but its capable of changing presets very fast. However, You probably will notice that Effects like Reverbs and Delays may not trail after switching. I don't have the pedal around to check but I would imagine that they dont trail into other presets.
Hope that helps!
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Pedal-Head , sounds awkward translated in french :D ! i longly hesitated about Helix .. my choice pointed Kemper , now i wonder if it worth it ^^
It all depends on what you “require” in order to play comfortably.
For me Simplicity is Key.
But options are great too!
Its a balancing act.
Keep us posted with what you choose and tell us how it works for you!
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@@MadManMusic actually i already bought Kemper Profiler Stage , pretty happy with it , because non like others i just use music exchange option, and tweak it my way if needed (guys out there already done a great job) , so i dont dive in complex operations . My favorite amp so far is 5153 , sounds heavy and clear even in standard E tuning . But that is why i wonder if it worth buying 1600euros+ processor instead of a stomp hellix :D . Anyway i'll keep it for when stages will become legal again for the real use.. one day yeh '^^
There is nothing like standing in front of a really 5153 Amp... many try... but the real thing is the real thing.
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I used to own a Helix for a short period of time, i used to call it the Netflix of guitar effects. I was spending more time to browse and try combinations than actually playing guitar. I sold it a month later and get back to pedals. I play guitar way more since i've sold it... Maybe we should get back to DVD rental in order to see more movies.
@@YouglyMusic nice coparison haha , actually you are right but it all depends on your approach , i personnaly refuse to tweak too much precisely for the fact that the ratio playing/sound research is not great .. so i choose a sound made by others , then i play , so simple :p i prefere work on my skills and ideas for now ^^
7:02 is this piece on your Sound Cloud?!!? I seriously need it in my life...on heavy "row-row"
I never thought about putting them on SoundCloud or other streaming platforms... but I’ll work on that and keep you posted! Thanks for the suggestion!
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@@MadManMusic Yesss please and thank you!!!!
I’ll do my best to get on it!
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I was honestly gonna buy one until I realized you can only use one effect at a time...guess I'll save up for the M9 or M13
Those Require a Specific Power Supply that cant be swapped out.
So if you’re using a Power Supply to power all the pedals on your board the M9 or M13 will have to be plugged in on its own.
The M5 just needs 300mA which most pedal board power supplies are capable of.
Again, like I mentioned in the video, this is for someone that needs to drop in a specific effect from time to time without having to buy 1000 pedals. Or it works well for the “Minimalist”. Like what I use with Pro-Pain.
But if you need more, I would suggest a Helix HX Effects over the M9 or M13. It requires the same specific power supply, but you get WAY more out of it.
@@MadManMusic Thanks for the tip! The helix is close to the price point of the M13 too, so no reason not to get the Helix instead
I’ll be doing a vid on the HX Effects soon cuz thats what I use on my big board. LOTS of cool possibilities with that unit!
Good Luck and Enjoy whatever you decide on!
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What midi are you using?
I use a Decibel Eleven Switch Dr.
It works really well!
Simple but Full with midi foot switch
Exactly! I plan on doing more videos to show people the full POWER of it!
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Owned it, sold it. Missed it bought it again, sold it, missed it…. Getting an M9…
HA! I know this chain of events!
I had the M9 originally! its awesome!
The only thing I didn't like about the M9 is that has that huge Line 6 brick power supply that you're supposed to use with it specifically... I had to use it when I owned mine because it wouldn't function properly without it, no matter what power supply I tried to run with it on my board.. but I've had friends that managed to make work.. "Supposedly". I dunno. I was using it to its fullest.. So I could easily see and hear the difference.. Not sure they were.
Anywho, enjoy it!!
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@@MadManMusic Interesting, yeah. I have a pretty set board of good analog/digitize pedals, and just wanted the M9 mainly for special FX and modulations. FX loop stuff. Nice video man.
Thanks dude!
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I love my M5’s, but boy are they temperamental. The power supply has some serious issues. 2 out of 3 my M5s have failed on me at times.
Really?? I'm sorry, I have experienced any issue with mine, I've had it for ages.
I usually use some sort of a "Power Brick" Power supply under my board. Are you using the original power supplies??
But they really are Swiss Army Knives!
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Can u stack
Stack what?
Effects? No. Just one Effect at a time (not including the built in Gate and Tuner)
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M5 or m9?
Personally, the M5 is easier to use on “my” pedalboard. It can be powered by my pedal power supply and controlled by my MIDI controller.
However the M9 is great in a whole different way. BUT I’d recommend the Helix HX Effects instead of the M9 or M13 if you can afford it.
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Thank you for the advice, maybe kemper is the solution for everything.
Everything has its Pros and Cons. But whatever fits your Budget and Play Style is gonna be the best fit for you!
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Wait, only one effect at a time?
Technically 3 if you include the fact that it has a Noise Gate and a Tuner.
But yes. 1 at a time.
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@@MadManMusic So can you have a noise gate on and then let’s say a reverb?
Yes!
And the gate can be specifically adjusted for each preset you save! Its just a little bit of a pain to get to the gate settings as its in the System Menu. But once you know where to find it, you’re good. Just a few button pressed and boom.
Also the tuner is available any time bu long pressing one of the foot switches.
For the price, you cant beat this pedal!
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@@MadManMusic That’s so awesome!! Thank you for an amazing reply. Does the gate apply just for the pedal or for the entire signal going into it? I want to use it at the end of my chain as a reverb, will the noise gate cancel the hum of the overdrives earlier in my chain?
Yes! It will cut the amp/overdrive noise.
But be sure to take some time to really dial in the sensitivity so you dont lose so much sustain from the gate choking your signal that deep in the signal path.
It’s totally normal to use 2 Gates, one First (directly after a tuner) and one FIRST in your FX Loop. Just gotta watch that second one doesnt kill your cleans cuz its set to overdrives.
Know what I mean??
Anywho, let us know if you pick one up!!
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Please stop making me want to buy stuff... I already ordered the EVH amp today !
NICE!!!! ENJOY IT! 🤘🏼😜
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