We NEED To Talk about Strategy Battle! [Counter:Side]

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    Whats up guys! The new Update has come, and drastically changed the way Strategy Battle works in Counter:Side! Is this change really as bad as it looks? Lets take a look at the positives and negatives and see what its all about.
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    0:00 Intro
    0:56 The PROs
    3:51 The CONs
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  • @DCellGaming
    @DCellGaming  Před rokem +1

    To clarify my thoughts on fully auto combat in PvP, it’s fine to have but I think manual so always be an option too. Personally I wish they would have left strat battle alone and just added the option to turn auto off once combat loaded in.

  • @Ralkaneous
    @Ralkaneous Před rokem +1

    I thought I had noticed the bans and ups not working but glad you confirmed the same

  • @Cyanoutthere
    @Cyanoutthere Před rokem +2

    Oh my, your screen so bright

  • @greatstoneplanet
    @greatstoneplanet Před rokem +3

    Autocombat PVP has a place, especially if that's the way you play the rest of the game. You're just comparing your builds and deployment order with other players. It's not live PVP any more than manual combatting another player's NPC controlled team. Auto-ing regular PVP is pointless because of the random deployment. If I'm doing both manually, I don't see a point in having two modes.

    • @DCellGaming
      @DCellGaming  Před rokem +1

      You can still auto, my point was FULL AUTO, meaning no option of manual, doesn't have a place, its just an idle mode at that point, not PvP. Fighting against AI is not the same as fighting against an actual human, so there is already a difference, and imo there was no reason to not have manual an option in the first place.

    • @DCellGaming
      @DCellGaming  Před rokem +1

      Furthermore, if you were using strat battle as a way to compare your teams against other builds you would want to use manual deployment as that's how you would run it in RTA, so you are just strengthening my point.

    • @greatstoneplanet
      @greatstoneplanet Před rokem +2

      @@DCellGaming Auto-combat "Idle" PVP is still PVP. The difference between live and auto is about your character build choices and what actions you'll take to win. If I want as much control over my units as possible to win, that is what Ranked PVP is for. It's clearly the more competitive hardcore gameplay which also rewards the most gauntlet points. I primarily play Ranked mode because all I want are the gauntlet points and I can play more efficiently by winning in Ranked. However, if I wanted to tie my hands behind my back and limit my control only to how I've built my units and how I’ve pre-determined deployment, that used to be Strategy mode. It’s casual AF, but I prefer it to all-consuming live PVP [I can’t tell you how many times people in my house want to interrupt me while I’m doing live content; it’s why I’ve gravitated to hero collectors with auto-combat in my old age]. I played Strategy when I didn't have time or attention to spare. However, StudioBside decided that we needed two live PVP modes and to push auto-combat to easy NPC team comps. In other games with auto-combat PVP, losing is just as interesting as winning because eventually you think and figure out how to win. I thought that was the point of calling it “Strategy.” I get your point that you don’t like it and you don’t want it in the game; but what’s the point of having two ranked modes?

    • @DCellGaming
      @DCellGaming  Před rokem +1

      My point is not that it shouldn’t be in game , but that manual should also be an option for people waiting to play that way. Having manual as an option in no way stops you from still using strat battle as a fully auto experience. That is literally still an option , having more options is a good thing is my point.

    • @DCellGaming
      @DCellGaming  Před rokem +2

      However I do agree with you, the way they implemented it is so bad, that it’s much worse than before. I still think it’s a step in the right direction if they fixed it up more, but if they intend to leave it as is then I prefer the old strat battle

  • @novaboy1174
    @novaboy1174 Před rokem +1

    I just thought of one Pro about this rework - at least, you won't have douchebags emote spam you if you are losing. XD

  • @svenwagner4717
    @svenwagner4717 Před rokem

    I thought bans are for ranked only? There is not even a button on the strategy battle tab for it.
    Did they state they would add them?

    • @DCellGaming
      @DCellGaming  Před rokem +1

      Yes, #3 on the patch notes clearly states that they will be effected by the bans and ups. So far I’ve heard no one really talk about this bug and it’s pretty substantial imo.

    • @svenwagner4717
      @svenwagner4717 Před rokem

      @@DCellGaming Thanks. Clearly missed that one.
      Doesn't seem like a smart idea though. Essentially they erased the differences between strategy and ranked aside from one being live pvp and the other not.
      Imo they should take that bug as an oppurtunity and scrap that concept. This just deletes the place you can go all out with your roster in PvP and renders banned chars obsolete for a whole gamemode.

    • @DCellGaming
      @DCellGaming  Před rokem

      yeah, i like the idea of giving strat battle its own identity, like maybe doing something similar to danger close where every new pvp season different units get increased stats and stuff, and let that be separate from RTA. BUT they do need to prevent whales from just setting all cancerous units/awakened units otherwise it won't be fun for a whole different reason.

    • @svenwagner4717
      @svenwagner4717 Před rokem

      @@DCellGaming I see where you are coming from and I enjoy the bans in live PvP to keep things fresh.
      That being said bans are the exact opposite tool for countering whales and krakens.
      They have a wide roster to begin with and are less affected by bans and bans do not counter refined gear, which is a far bigger power factor (amd more 'whaley') than characters.

  • @Cyanoutthere
    @Cyanoutthere Před rokem +1

    1

  • @jframe9715
    @jframe9715 Před rokem

    There is not positive in this strategy update because your team was deployed randomly and not like the last strategy.
    Strategy Battle is not PvP you should be able to to auto and how you place your unit in the battle list and they are deployed as you place them not randomly.
    If people want to play active play they can play PvP not Strategy Battle.
    You keep saying the former Strategy Battle is a dead game play mode then the up and ban shouldn't be apply to this Strategy Battle update as well like the former Strategy Battle.
    IF up and Ban were to apply to Strategy Battle then don't call it Strategy Battle just called it PvP 2.
    I used to place meme team on my defense team to help F2P to get more reward as they can get higher in Strategy Battle now I only put my most cancerous team choke full of Tier 7(10) gear.

  • @aisanovac3801
    @aisanovac3801 Před rokem

    New Strategy pvp is for whales that can't hack it in Ranked mode. It's just there to let people who spend on this game to beat on those who did not.

  • @darkskies86
    @darkskies86 Před rokem

    Shit decision from the devs