Draymond Green CLAPS BACK at Shawn Marion's critiques about his defense for Golden State Warriors
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- čas přidán 2. 04. 2024
- Draymond Green stands up to Shawn Marion for making comments on the @club520podcast, professing himself to be a better defender than the 4x NBA Finals champion. Dray goes through having to guard Jalen Brunson on the Dallas Mavericks, Nikola Jokic on the Denver Nuggets, Jaren Jackson on the Memphis Grizzlies, and Jaylen Brown on the Boston Celtics during the Golden State Warriors' 2022 title run.
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In 1 playoff series on my way to my 4th championship “ 😭😭 bro won with the first line
Take off 2 rings since yall fail to acknowledge his core and team.
@@BigWillieDillienot how the shit works 😂
All Shawn has to say is he never punched a player as a grown man then acted like he was a grown man after that 😂 green turns purple after that one
@@beachavebaby doubt it.
@@beachavebaby if we not giving kd credit for that superteam we aint giving draymond credit for being on a superteam. do is average as hell when steph aint on the floor 😂
Draymond guards entire plays. He guards entire actions and will take away certain actions from an offense. That is MUCH harder than just being assigned to iso guard one man all night.
What Draymond does is much more valuable to a defense than being a lock down defender for one guy and being able to ignore everyone else. Something Draymond is also elite at when he's called on to go 1 v 1.
Draymond is on a short list of the greatest 1 v 1 defenders ever, but off ball, he is peerless. He's like a free safety out there coordinating an entire defensive unit. Nobody does is it like Draymond. His anticipation, timing, and overall defensive iq is second to none.
He is my ultimate litmus test to see if someone understands ball. He's been the second most important player to the Warriors dynasty, and if you can't see how insanely good at basketball he is, then you have some learning to do. When you know what you're watching, he's an absolute blast to watch.
Pretty spot on but I wouldn’t say peerless off the ball tho … I mean sure you can make an argument for him being the best but other greats like kg should be considered his peers
well said my guy. the last couple years have caused me to lose a great deal of respect for draymond as a person, but it’s a dead giveaway of a casual when his abilities as a basketball player are questioned. even the dudes who admit he’s an all-time defender but think he’s not invaluable on the other end.
but those are things I wouldn’t have seen when I first started getting into ball, so I get it ig.
hahaha stop it. he is most overrated bum
@@markozbunjol625 like flies to a lamp here they come
I agree with this, but what does a safety mean?
Shawn guarded Brandon Roy, Kobe Bryant, Kevin Durant and lebron James in 2011… just saying
And they all shot below their averages
Did you watch the video? Draymond repeatedly said Shawn Marion was a great defender so there's no need to say this. Marion claiming he's the only person who can guard someone for a whole game is incorrect, that's Draymond's argument
This has nothing to do with what Draymond said… Dray gave him his flowers, Shawn was pure wrong on his take.
Let’s be real Iggy guarding Lebron in those finals 🤣
@@Thrashippiedraymond guarded lebron with similar numbers but talking heads never bring that up
IMO Shawn Marion is the most underrated player in NBA History 😂 yes I said it! My fantasy hoopers in that 03,04,05,06 era know wtf I’m talking about! Before “triple doubles” and filling out the stat sheet was a thing, Marion was doing 20 points 10 rebounds 5 assists 5 steals 4 block type games! Dude was a MONSTER
"IMO Shawn Marion is the most underrated player in NBA History" - You High As Hell
fantasy god. same with KG
@@djTObruh! They were COOKINGGGGGGGGGG back in the day 😂😂😂
@@themiseducationoftheameric7407 that's not weed bruh maybe crack or Sumting 😂😂
Shawn Marion was Trash!
Shawn Marion guarded tougher assignments
I would have Matrix as better on-ball defender, Dray as smarter, proactive, high IQ defender. I’ve seen Dray disrupt 3-on-1 fast-breaks by himself. Incredible
Everything you said about draymond Marion did better you’re just talking
@@honorableatalltimes3579With no accolades to show for it and yet Draymond does.
@@user-dh7dj3yw1b you know back then there was a bunch of great defenders so it was a lot of ppl who were recognized with awards but respected by their peers. Do you know scottie Pippen never WON DPOY but he’s regarded as one of the greatest defenders ever. Draymond is a good defender in this era cause nobody plays defense anymore so he stands out. He’s like the girl that’s a 7 who hangs with a bunch of 4s so you think she’s bad but really she’s not she just looks better than the other girls she’s with, that’s draymonds defense in the nba today compared to the other players
@@honorableatalltimes3579 Not saying you were wrong but I’m just pointing out facts. If he was a greater defender than dray he would at least have some all defense second team. Clearly if he was this standout defender he thinks he was he would have accolades? No?
@@honorableatalltimes3579 Draymond would be a good defender in any era. Playing defense is harder now cause you can’t touch anyone. You telling me if draymond could get away with more than he does now and harass players he wouldn’t be a better defender??
Matrix wayyyyy off on this one 😂
Marion need to stay off the Henny! People can say whatever they want about his antics or his temper or not being able to shoot.. but what we not gonna do is act like Dray couldn't guard 1-5 in his Prime. He the reason why the Warriors were so switchable and had the best D in the league from 2015-2019.
And again in 2022 … I think if he hadn’t missed so many games he’d have another dpoy
@@davidfebreeze428 That's a fact!
@@davidfebreeze428in 2022 playoffs I feel like wiggins took the harder matchups of luka,tatum and ja.
You forgot about 22
@@yahiaali4059 sure but for my money it’s still draymonds help his communication ability to switch on anyone and tim protection that made their defense really go on the highest level but Wiggins did a fantastic job as well
Not to mention draymond making it tough on joker and guarding the two jalens which were pretty much not guarded better in those playoffs
What separates dray is his TEAM DEFENSE and rotating. He could cover for the whole team not js 1on1 defense which he’s also great at. Shawn knows better
Damn everyone has a podcast it's about to be over saturated
Already is bro . At first it was for the poor to get rich now it’s the rich trying to get richer . I wonder if the rich opening the door so the poor can make alot more money
@gettinbacktothemoney makes sense I come by a lot of new channels and most aren't even celebrities, only been doing CZcams for 6 months and already bringing in 300, 400 thousand views already
draymond was doing podcast in 2022 during the nba finals...
You never shut down Lebron like how Marion did in the 2011 finals. Remember iggy guarded Lebron you didn’t
Well why would dray do that when he has to guard the 4 and 5
Marion didn't shut down LeBron he guarded Wade that series. Terry, dirk, and howard was on Bron and built a wall forcing him to shoot jumpers. Don't try and change the facts😂😂. Fact is Marion played in a era where defensive rules made it easier to play defense, with less shooters to spread the floor, and Draymond has succeeded and done more defensively when everything is aimed for the offense.
Facts guarded Kobe & KD before that
@@davyjoneslocker4859he cant guard the best player
@@2cents250 dray can he won't do it all game because the best player is usually not a 4 or 5
People like to talk about the way Steph runs around on offense, Dray mirrors that on defense.
People have no idea how good Marion was. Without him, modern basketball wouldn't be what it is. Nash got the MVPs but was the third best at most. Marion and Stat created the space through pace. Marion's defense was key. Look at the 4s at the time. Every night, he was mismatched physically and was able to switch to guards. Not to mention a key to the Mavs chip. Marion ran so Dray could kick
🗣️: *TALK THAT SHIT DRAY!!*
Get ‘em Dray you always keep it real. I’m always here for it!
Draymond is a generational defender, generationally frustrating, yes. Marion is not close.
Shawn Marion was a generational defender with a wack jumper that worked you trippin but also right about draymond
Marion was 10x the athlete draymond was
Cap
@@kdot2315who talkin bout being athletic. Bums are more athletic than The Joker….
Generational? No
Marion is the only one who blocked Dirk's fade in clutch
And he realized also I cannot beat him so I’ll just join him 😂
Y’all need to go search up Shawn Marion before y’all get to talking 😂😂😂😂😂
Why? I remember what he did and it wasn't to the caliber of Draymond. You want me to give him credit for guarding tough assignments and failing?😂 I swear people really think nostalgia can change facts and reality.
Draymond ain’t never average 20 and 10
@@MrRashay123😂😂😂😂
@@MrRashay123Ik but he got 4 chips how many Sean got?😂
@@Drequeezy lol Robert Horry got more rings than both of them so what’s your point 😭😭😭brother
As an older head I don't recall the "Matrix" being known for his defense but most important the system/eras are completely different. Their skillsets are completely different. Their responsibilities are completely different. Their impact to stat lines is completely different. TBH "Matrix" was having one of those awkward "Paul PIERCE" moments... "PP" thinks he's in the convo with the likes of Wade & Kobe smfh! Matrix sounds like he thinks he's better than Draymond & I'm sure even old heads would disagree with that. Bottomline, this is one of those things that "RETIRED" players do, especially in basketball for some reason!
Matrix in his prime was way better then Draymond Green draymond green in his prime Still couldn't average a double double
@@Guerrillachop ~You're entitled to your opinion.
@karegairegi9071 it's not an opinion what I stated was all facts the most ppg draymond averaged was 9.4 Marion averaged more then 10 rebounds multiple seasons and averaged more points draymond most ppg was 14 ppg.
@@Guerrillachop ~ I'm not interested in meaningless debates. Again, you're entitled to your opinion. We can agree to disagree.
@karegairegi9071 again not debating I'm just stating what is true
You should get Shawn on the podcast and discuss this
520 is becoming one of the best sports pods
Marion is tripping. I can show him multiple highlights of Dray guarding all 5 positions on 1 possession.... Yes, 1 possession. He's all over the court and directing traffic. Then when he u need him to guard a big the whole game, he can do that too.
Yeah but you’re not putting Dray in a guard to shut him down for a whole game. He would get cooked
@@G4Chaos-on6xk yeah u clearly don’t know basketball 😂😂
I said it initially, Shawn Marion was A hooper but its disrespectful to say he was a better defender and has no DPOY awards and his Defense did not drive Phoenix , D’Antoni’s Offense with Nash and Amare pick combo , The Matrix is tripping . And Aye Dray that 5-5 from three was 🔥 against Lakers 4/9/24 I see Ya !
Shawn Marion was never a guy who was effective guarding centers or being the middle linebacker of a defense playing help side effectively.. Shawn isnt quite on your level.
Because shaq and Yao played back then.
@@sigmams8895 Wemby, Joker and Embid are on that level.
@@leandreballew2566chill with the wemby fool lol the man just start playing good a couple months ago but nah he not on that level
@@RandyTheFittest MJ’s Rookie year you could tell by the eye test and his stats he was on the level or beyond the level of any SG ever.
Wemby already is a walking double double. Wemby will end the season averaging more blocks in a season than Shaq or Yao ever did. Hes a better ball handler, shoots the 3 better. Cmon fool you gotta open your mind.
Stop the cap
so yall really beleive shawn marion was the only player in nba history to guard 1 player all game? cmon now
Just take it with a grain of salt, Draymond.
To be honest your team can clamp down any team if you really want it. You just have to be relentless on defense. You did that yesterday vs Dallas in the Second quarter and in the 3rd quarter of that game. If you amp up your defense you can shut down any team. Please do that collectively now. That's all you need because your offense will always be there.
Great response Dray!🫶🏾💥🔥
Marion out here talking like he was Tony Allen, or that a defender really gets the opportunity to actually defend one guy a whole game now.
He was definitely nice
Rebuttal: 2011 NBA playoffs/Finals-Brandon Roy,Lamarcus Aldridge,Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol,Lamar Odom,Andrew Bynum,Russel Westbrook,James Harden,Kevin Durant, Lebron James, Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh were all examples of players Marion had to guard that year en route to an eventual NBA championship....
Stop the hype😂 all them players he faced but Shawn Marion, had Tyson Chandler, who was basically Brook Lopez today nothing was easy in the paint and had Dirk nowitzki on the weak side help in 2011, Draymond don't have nobody but Steph Curry and Klay Thompson..... Better yet go watch the LeBron and JJ podcast he explained to the viewers in 2011 every Big Man who was good at defendant in the paint and Tyson Chandler was one of them Shawn Marion and Draymond is not the same
Is a rebuttal needed when Draymond repeatedly said Marion was a great defender? Dray just pointed out that what Marion said was wrong and he's not the only one to defend a player for a whole game. It's also dumb to include all the star players in the opposing team just like you did because Marion didn't defend all of them in one whole series or even one whole game because that is physically impossible lol.
Draymond is a better overall defender than Shawn. That man guards big and switches off on guards and strong as hell. And he block shots and not even athletic
The orchestrated vs the orchestra. Dray is the best defender teamwise league wide for 15 years. Part of the process
lol he´s not :D
Agreed
Dray - love your pod, keep talking
Im takin dray over shawn basketball IQ isnt comparable
He guarded Jalen Brunson the whole series lol STOP
Let that fool know Dray! Respectfully 💯
Before you go back to 520 you need to tap in with B.Hen about that leg room snafu 😂
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Green doesn’t shut anyone down, he’s a good team defender on a team that was a great defensive team, it’s the team collectively that made them good on defence
It’s all subjective, Draymond is in an ideal system & situation where his defensive prowess flourishes
You in my opinion are the most versatile defender I have ever seen when guarding 1 through 5! Plus you have invented and perfected the point forward position. Maybe the most unique and effective player in NBA history. Exquisite ball handler and decision maker. Your place in basketball history is solidified no matter what the old haters think!
Giannis defensive versatility >
Pippen Guarded Magic the Whole 91 Finals
Draymond is in my top players that ever play the game of basketball 🏀 People always talk like they don’t understand who Draymond is and how he has effect the game. This guy (Draymond) is not a center, but can guard every positions between 1-5 and every player respects him in defense.
Get him on the podcast and have a breakdown between defenders . On ball off ball.
I look at Draymond as a glue defender more than on ball but I could be wrong.
hell nah. Shawn Marion was elite. Way ahead of his time. Only the new gen forget about how good matrix was.
Bruce Bowen use to guard Steve Nash for a whole series!
I agree with Draymond! Btw i dont think matrix understand how open 3's works in todays game and the way offense are played before during matrix playing days compare today is way different. Too much space after league saw warrior offense won them 1st ring. Lol
If Green said he was guarding JB in the finals, then he did a bad job. Who ever was guarding JT did great job and that was Wigg
JB is a tough cover for anyone
@@Hooperd2023 Are you saying JB is better than JT??
@@ssjj005easily y’all fans just don’t know ball 😂😂 the man jb be carrying Tatum in the offs
@@RandyTheFittest don’t help him, let him drown in his first take, NBA-Tube ESPN analysis of basketball.
@@RandyTheFittest then say it. JB is better than JT.
Dray a beast warriors needed him to win They would be soft without him
Marion was talking like he is top 75 on the Podcast
He should of said someone else bro I like the matrix but he gotta stop yappin bc draymond was n is our defense bro fr fr fr fr smfh 11/30/23 baby 🔥🔥🤙
Marion a better more athletic defender.. Period.
Sometimes dray gets on my nerves but I will not allow that statement from Shawn go unchecked😂 Every Championship we won we had a top 3 defense(rarely 2 or 3) Draymond ⚓️ it. Give him a center or rim protector and your whole offense is messed up. Run a pick and roll and it’s a switched better hope draymond is in the play😂 if you think you blew by him… it’s a block
Klay Thompson guarded the best player. With the Achillies injury, people forget.
@@cpm4778 Klay would guard the best GUARD. Draymond would share the best Wing with Iggy during the playoffs. I watched Draymond stick on KD and the switch on Kyrie and disrupt a whole offense.
Pretty much Draymond is like a free safety who can also play Corner, Linebacker, and be on the Dline. His versatility on defense was ridiculous the only thing Shawn might have was that played full-court press on guards? (I’ll go look at the tape but I don’t think he was like that) not to mention DRAY IS A DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR FINALIST!
Draymond is the equivalent of a great LB when it comes to the Warriors defense
Matrix was the best defender of the 2000s
The Steph Curry of defense. Changed the sport entirety. Forever. Perhaps the only player in history who makes his teammates better DEFENSIVELY. Now defense is played differently at every level.
This is when you have to take a min and sit back and humble yourself. One have a DPOY award and one do not. That simple.
Why is everyone the first one to do something in nba history?
All day any day with Mario!
Draymond I have a question for you. Do you think Stephen curry as a teammate will get another ring before his retirement?
U right dray u gotta go back to that u was there for 3 mins
Shawn got a Matrix pinky
Yea talk your shyt Boy!! They forgot what kinda defender prime Dray was 💯
I’m a draymond guy all day but Marion did have like a 3 year run of being a top 5 guy in fantasy. Yes, in fantasy. But still lol
Crazy how players be swearing they could do this and that and saying it easy but yet when they where in they couldnt do these things consistently or at all. Shawn would get cooked by Kyrie,Steph, Luka, Dame, etc. Some of these players are just unguardable at times. Stop saying its easy
FACTS🏆🏆🏆🏆
Draymond Green is speaking facts lol.
What Marion is expressing ironically is his lack of understanding.
He said "everybody switching everything nowadays" as if that's a put down or an easier way to play defense. It's not. Just sticking to one guy all the time would get your team cooked in today's game. With how the game is called and with the increased complexity of modern offenses, it has never been harder to play defense in the NBA.
Shawn Marion betta be cool, 1 ring havin as
Bout time said something 😂!!
Crazy part Shawn Marion has no all defense for his career. He was a good defender. Very weird!!
Na Shawn Marion was wilding lol never made any all defensive teams. Dray clears
Draymond is bug’n and Marion played clean defense
Draymond has Elite Grappling ability
I've never seen it
Marion had to guard Jordan Kobe Bron & all the great players of the 2000s from 1 to 5
Not sure if Draymond refuted the fact that he didn't guard 1s for an entire game
Club 520 funna laugh when they see this
Shawn Marion was a great defender, but I don't know how accurate his statement of being "the only person in the history of the game to guard one single player for the whole game". We are not going to pretend like Raja Bell and Bruce Bowen didn't exist and absolutely over commit to their assignment. Raja Bell and Bruce used to hound Kobe for the full 48...and I know there are a few other elite defenders that are on that list too.
And Shane Battier
Matrix better dont see Draymond chasing guards for a full game
I agree with Draymond
Marion is on that juice 😂
Draymond green in his prime is still not a HOF player. You casuals need to stop D riding already. Dude is a good player on a all time team
Dreymond is the type it is what he wants it to be. He sees it how he wants to see it and then acts like a victim when hes the aggressor which also can work to his favor. He wants it both ways and to tell the story how he sees it.
Myrion was good player, Draymond 4x championship and hall of fame
Yet he never was DPOY(closest 4th in 06-07) and zero all-d teams, not even a 2nd team all-d. Sure he played good d but not as good as Dray in their respected eras.
CHAMPIONS
Draymond is the Rodman of his era....
Say what you want about his antics and his behavior, etc, and you'd be right, but that doesn't change the fact that he was a key piece to the Warrior's championships from 2015 -2022...
They would never have even won a single championship without Draymond....
Draymond you didn’t really reply to what he said though?
Jalen brunson? Why didn't he just say Luka. Was he really matched against Brunson that much?
With all due disrespect marian is a better defender. He didnt cuss the ref out after he hacked the shyt outta somebody
Dray and Shawn aren’t even in the same conversation. SMH. Dray is a hall of famer. Shawn is a role player at best.
Draymond only got more rings because team success as an overall player Shawn Marion was way better
Marion or Draymond?? Marion easily!
Dramond is so good wen he off d court I so upset wit our defense 4 Makin some silly mistakes
you can say you defended who ever but if you got torched or YOU alone didn't make them score a significant amount lower than their average then you were just a body out there. I am interested to see you play in the Drew or Rucker; can you ball or are you a great teammate? both are top tier but they're aren't the same.
For those who celebrate second place, your man the goat, 😂😂😂😂
We saw draymond played defense on jokic and shuthim down
Marion blocked KD and Yao twice. Draymond has longer wingspan and tankier. On a wing like a kobe, derozan, booker give me Marion. Inside being a menace and protecting the rim Draymond is a dpoy for a reason.
Dray you’re a great team defender but 1on1 I’m taking Marion. He could legit shutdown guards on the ball.
Matrix 1 ring
Dray 4 rings
Nuff said
dray 0 real rings
@@stefanpapdi5151stefan papdi 6 special ed championships
Draymond, they dont like you like that.
Dray is a better playmaker, other than that Shawn just better. Dray more like Josh Smith
I'm the top Warriors hater left in the bay but Draymond is arguably the best defender in the league in terms of all the aspects, technically and schematically, in the league. And I can't stand him (jokingly.!) Forget about posting Draymond, the man has the best close out I have ever seen, without fouling. All that said, Draymond is even better offensively than he is defensively. I can't stand the defender stopper moniker: the men is the king of running sets for others.