Patenting Crash Course (Must Watch)

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    This video shows how I 'broke' a patent attorney drafted patent application in less than 5 minutes. The patent (even if granted) would not have protected the invention, and would instead only have got very limited protection of a certain way of attaching it to a floor cleaning apparatus head. I went on to get perfect patent protection for this invention (claimed already allowed and about to go to grant at the UK IPO (Patent Office). Want a free consultation? Get it here: TheInventorsJourney.com

Komentáře • 129

  • @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012

    Please put speed of the video at 1.25 if you find it too slow. Just click settings icon at bottom right of video, and select 1.25. Video and sound will play much faster and take 6 minutes less!!

  • @timothysands5537
    @timothysands5537 Před 3 lety +4

    Feels like the video is actually an advertisement of his services and that the information could have been delivered effectively within 5 minutes. Still worth the watch for newcomers like myself so thanks for the video.

  • @danakaboom1158
    @danakaboom1158 Před 5 lety +13

    Great video. Many patent Lawyers are good at writing patents that DESCRIBE your inventions but do nothing to PROTECT your inventions. I was stunned when I found out the hard way. Can't believe lawyers don't have to learn this concept in school.
    Word of advice - no one understands your invention as you do. Make a list of EVERY WAY you think someone might work around your patent, even if it results in a shabbier version of your core idea. Ask people you trust to come up with other possible designs. You might be surprised.
    Then insist that the clams in your patent cover each and every one. By that, I mean have claims written to stop every alternative version you can think of. Every one.

    • @cortezforever
      @cortezforever Před 4 lety

      Can you add all alternative versions to the same claim? I have found shabbier versions/methods of my idea.

  • @flippantfishtaco3132
    @flippantfishtaco3132 Před 7 lety +36

    I don't agree that this is the inventor's fault. The attorney should have understood the intent of the inventor and given the correct advice. I'm not an attorney and even I can spot the issue and explain how to correct it.

    • @joecitizen6755
      @joecitizen6755 Před 7 lety +7

      how could the problem be the cause of every inventor ... yet never a lawyer that performs this job daily?
      typical for a lawyer eh?

    • @Jonathan-uo6ui
      @Jonathan-uo6ui Před 7 lety +1

      yeah... cause he just explainded it to you in the video.

    • @jimburnsjr.
      @jimburnsjr. Před 7 lety +1

      agreed Rob Christian; there may be a contractual agreement to release the attorney from liability... but the express and only purpose of hiring an attorney is to produce a specific result.. and that result is not to fail due to communication breakdown or misuse of words in the design and drafting of the patent.
      If the patent fails because someone else has already patented the idea or is in the process, that is a different issue.. but malpractice on an attorneys part is apt to be as substantial an injury as that on the part of a doctor....
      loss of industry and the consequential injury to the inventor and faith in due process, is, always has been, and always will be a significant problem for any nation... regardless of the professed system of laws.
      Only good will and honesty on each persons part can make much of anything truly run smooth and shiny.

    • @thommytwotoestimesthree847
      @thommytwotoestimesthree847 Před 6 lety +1

      The attorney's job is to explain what is given to him not to interpret what hasn't been given.

    • @thommytwotoestimesthree847
      @thommytwotoestimesthree847 Před 6 lety +1

      So every attorney needs to be an engineer and critical analyst on top of general counsel?

  • @danh2204
    @danh2204 Před 6 lety +6

    Really well explained. I been searching for a clear explanation of the process and this is the best so far. As for him being slow, I think he is just emphasizing his points.

    • @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012
      @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012  Před 6 lety

      Thanks for the comment, Dan, and glad you enjoyed it. Yes, that's exactly why I went so slow- it's important stuff!!
      With regards,
      Jethro L Bennett
      Captain of SHIINE® ENTERPRISE
      Creator of The Inventor's Journey™ ( www.TheInventorsJourney.com )
      Inventor, Professional Product Designer, Elite Patent Specialist

  • @teresahernandez1059
    @teresahernandez1059 Před 3 lety +1

    Great advertising for The Inventors Journey!

  • @shakreecaligraphy5981
    @shakreecaligraphy5981 Před 4 lety +2

    You are a good presenter such a great work , incredible and adequate information provided by you. I have to listen many video but there are information a little bit
    you clear me on patent.
    Thanks

    • @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012
      @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012  Před 4 lety

      Glad you enjoyed. Look out for our big re-launch, coming soon.
      With regards,
      Jethro L Bennett
      Captain of SHIINE® ENTERPRISE
      Creator of The Inventor's Journey™ ( www.TheInventorsJourney.com )
      Inventor, Professional Product Designer, Elite Patent Specialist

  • @jurisbogdanovs1
    @jurisbogdanovs1 Před 6 lety +6

    What kind of patent attorney that person was if he doesn't know the tips and tricks of patenting... The fault is absolutely with the attorney.

  • @barbarapelham8741
    @barbarapelham8741 Před 6 lety +3

    Very informative. It has helped me in my decision of being an inventor. Mainly that I cannot afford to be an inventor. Thank you, Jethro

    • @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012
      @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012  Před 6 lety

      Thank you for the comment Barbara. We've got some things coming in in 2018 in The Inventor's Journey™ that are going to make it much much cheaper, and give you a better chance of getting perfect patent protection. So don't give up!! In the meantime, you can always get patent pending for 12 months with a provisional patent application (for almost no cost at all), with our iPatentPending™ program. Available free for 10 days, and only $29.95/month thereafter. Very very inexpensive. Just thought I'd mention. If need that now or in the future, the 10 Day Free Trial option is here: theinventorsjourney.com/crewmember.html
      With regards,
      Jethro L Bennett
      Captain of SHIINE® ENTERPRISE
      Creator of The Inventor's Journey™ ( www.TheInventorsJourney.com )
      Inventor, Professional Product Designer, Elite Patent Specialist

  • @tt_tinytunes
    @tt_tinytunes Před 5 lety

    Thank you indeed for this useful materials 👍🏼

  • @davidjohnston3083
    @davidjohnston3083 Před 4 lety

    The explanation Shine gave is a very valuable lesson. Not just in the patent discription but even the patent search. I paid for a patent search for a metal electrical box that incorporated the use of a hinge! My silly (stupid) attorney was hung up on the hinge as being my big improvement and a hinge had nothing to do with it. I did not invent the hinge I incorporated the use of it. I could care less if it used bent tabs, a wire loop what ever to hold the halves together. So my attorney found an electrical box using a hinge, and that box had a very specific purpose. My design had it's own purpose, and the box my attorney found had it's own purpose and neither box could do both. Any way he said I would have to do a patent for improvement to an existing idea, his box would not do what I needed nor mine do what his box needed. Two totally different applications totally different needs. So my idea went no where. And my idea could save lives as it was easy for a DIY to fix a common electrical problem usually found in an attic. djsreps at g....

  • @alexanderhammer688
    @alexanderhammer688 Před rokem

    Excellent video. Many thanks for a great job. It's a God sent for what I'm about to accomplish.

  • @jessicasharese
    @jessicasharese Před rokem

    This pace of teaching is so perfect for me. I think I would get much higher marks in my classes if instructors were to use this pace. When learning something new I don't do well at a conversational pace like a friend is telling me all about a beach vacay.

    • @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012
      @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012  Před 5 měsíci

      Very nice to hear it worked for you.
      With regards,
      Jethro L Bennett
      Captain of SHIINE® ENTERPRISE
      Creator of The Inventor's Journey™ ( www.TheInventorsJourney.com )

  • @sunnysim3583
    @sunnysim3583 Před 6 lety

    I watched it all thank you. Hope you still read these messages because I need help now. Years of great ideas, now I have one, but I need to know something. Good to find a video from the UK because alot are from the U.S. Nice that you can retire so young. Typical and now need to find someone to help me.

  • @geospectrum
    @geospectrum Před 4 lety

    This is very interesting. I’m about to go down the patent or design registration route and am learning what a minefield it is.

  • @matthewadler6870
    @matthewadler6870 Před 6 lety +1

    Hello sir excellent video. I tried searching Google patents but could not find the BrushUp pushbroom. Would you share the finished document or has it not been released yet?

  • @emogilner9
    @emogilner9 Před 7 lety

    thanks for the info.
    Could of be nice if you included what was the UK 1st claim look like.
    Cheers,
    Eylon

  • @dukefleed8369
    @dukefleed8369 Před 5 lety

    That was amazing

  • @Falconcrow79
    @Falconcrow79 Před 6 lety +1

    Excellent video, thank you for highlighting the importance of proper claims.
    For those of you interested, as I was, in finding out the before and after patent applications to see how Jethro expanded and protected each version of the idea, you can compare US20140033463 and US20140150202A1 in google patents. I found it very insightful how each version of the invention was shown in the drawings and included in the claims.

  • @abbtech
    @abbtech Před 4 lety

    I am not sure how broad the final version is but could you not show one or two methods of connecting the bristles to the brush but then also indicates that there could be many simple alternative mechanisms that could be used. I would think for a very inexpensive high volume production you could ultrasonically weld bristles directly to the top of a plastic broom structure. This would prevent the need from having any additional mounting methods. or even a simple method you see on some inexpensive brushes where they have a series of small holes and the bristles are forcefully shoved or glued into the holes.

  • @DivineAV
    @DivineAV Před 7 lety

    Agreed

  • @Lochnivar
    @Lochnivar Před 7 lety

    Can you just vaguely say one part is attached to another to allow multiple embodiments? I.e. A brush clip that is attached to the base of the brush head. Could you word that "A brush head that is attached to a brush clip (i.e. attached from the left and right etc).
    If so can you back it up with a far more detailed dependant claim to fall back on under prosecution?
    Can you have more than one inventive step? i.e. Prior art eliminates one so you fall back on another etc and if so do they need to be listed (as best practice suggests) in order of priority in the "objects of the invention part" to avoid a disconnect? (or will the IPO allow rejiggling of paragraphs etc based on rejections/resubmissions?)
    Thank you for the videos, they're incredibly helpful - I'm based in the UK and writing my own patent at the moment and its like ice skating uphill when you realise the emphasis on the "inventive step" - luckily boiler plate terms and the internet are just about helping me pull through.

  • @harftimer4789
    @harftimer4789 Před 3 lety

    Hi - i've been wondering.. can i patent an app idea, without any understanding of the technicalities (ie, coding, etc) ?

  • @etet4736
    @etet4736 Před 3 lety

    So, in a single U.S. Nonprovisional Utility Patent you can draw multiple variations of your idea, correct?

  • @baddmanaz
    @baddmanaz Před 7 lety +5

    This video scared the sh*t out of me!

    • @neetrab
      @neetrab Před 7 lety

      me too! thank you!

    • @kalemercer7053
      @kalemercer7053 Před 6 lety +1

      Me to, I came up with 6 ways around my draft for my PPA

  • @mburton152
    @mburton152 Před 5 lety

    I understand it's an all or nothing thing with the claims. Can a competitor file another patent for the same invention minus one element of the claim and maybe some different elements not included before? Or does it mean they are just not infringing and can't claim anything themselves?

  • @user-ni3sp5mz4u
    @user-ni3sp5mz4u Před 5 lety +1

    Could he have just been more broad by saying; an upright brush connected by "an attachment assembly"
    Or maybe list several common connection types by saying "such as but not limited to tongue and groove, slide bracket, snap and clip, magnetic.) rather than listing one specific attachment configuration?
    Is that too broad?
    Can you LIST multiple common ways of doing something obvious with the phrase "but not limited too"?
    Also, are the rules different for a PPA vs. Non-provisional?
    I'm considering writing my own PPA
    Thanks

  • @modularliving1024
    @modularliving1024 Před 5 lety

    So how do i draft. versions, of my patent all in one?

  • @mhypersonic
    @mhypersonic Před 7 lety +29

    pretty educational video, but talks a bit too slow, had to speed up the video

    • @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012
      @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012  Před 7 lety +1

      It's a few minutes too long, but an important video. If you watch it the whole way through, it will hugely evolve your understanding of patenting and patent 'claims'. I ended up getting Tom perfect patent protection on this invention in the UK, and we're going through the US patenting right now. If it also gets perfect patent protection in the US, that's an incredible result, given how things could have gone. Many of my early videos are a little too slow, but stay with them. This is one of the most important ones, and I'll be designing this into a commercially viable product version too, so stay along.
      With regards,
      Jethro L Bennett
      Captain of SHIINE® ENTERPRISE
      Creator of The Inventor's Journey™ (www.TheInventorsJourney.com)
      Inventor, Professional Product Designer, Elite Patent Specialist

    • @mhypersonic
      @mhypersonic Před 7 lety +2

      i also wanted to mention I liked how you repeated very important phrases that are necessary.

    • @amijackman9437
      @amijackman9437 Před 7 lety +3

      I prefer it slow as i am a low learner, cant wait to join up.

    • @Ok_Cabbage
      @Ok_Cabbage Před 6 lety

      mhypersonic well, I'm kinda stupid so this actually helps.

  • @timring2809
    @timring2809 Před 2 lety

    I need to enlist anything and everything that could possibly be used

  • @senecamontezdeoca3434
    @senecamontezdeoca3434 Před 4 lety +1

    Do I have to do this on a PPA?

  • @FicaGTI
    @FicaGTI Před 6 lety +4

    So basically you can almost design-around everything. You just need to alter few things, put additional parts/reduce parts and that is it...Is there a law of obviousness that is mentioned here in comments?

    • @jselectronics8215
      @jselectronics8215 Před 2 lety

      A competitor's non infringing product can be marketed without getting a patent on it.

  • @delick01
    @delick01 Před 2 lety +2

    This is an advertisement ! The goal of this video is not to teach, but to sell.

  • @johnkmetz4787
    @johnkmetz4787 Před 7 lety +5

    What if you have all 3 parts, but also add one more. Does this infringe on the patent? So a brush, clip, mounting bracket & a silver bracket. - Does adding another element "silver bracket" make this a distinguished patent?

    • @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012
      @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012  Před 7 lety +3

      John, thank you for this question, and the focus you've shown in order to get to that question. What I'm going to do is create a short video to explain this. The moment I have that done, I'll post it here, so that you and all other inventors can get the benefit of it. If you need any help in the meantime, just email help@TheInventorsJourney.com
      With greatest regards,
      Jethro L Bennett
      Captain of SHIINE® ENTERPRISE
      Creator of The Inventor's Journey™ (TheInventorsJourney.com)
      Inventor, Professional Product Designer, Elite Patent Specialist

    • @reign_city
      @reign_city Před 6 lety

      SHIINE® The Inventor's Journey™
      So is it best to just have one element in your claim one???

    • @kalemercer7053
      @kalemercer7053 Před 6 lety

      Did you ever make that video?

    • @crosswire7777
      @crosswire7777 Před 5 lety

      The other parts are claim 2 and 3

  • @kellyk3889
    @kellyk3889 Před 5 lety +1

    You should include the $$$ for filing the patents so that people understand (especially the international costs).
    The time frame to acquire the patent. The presenter said that it "LOOKS LIKE" he will get the patent in the US. There is no US patent, yet the inventor had to push forward with the international phase (very expensive). A +100 page 50 drawings($$$), UK patent was filed and received some feedback, yet still no US patent. The patent office will eat away 2-8yrs of your 20 yr patent life. That life started when you file the provisional patent.
    Sometimes it is better to file the patent on the basic idea, then when you are given allowance for the patent, but before it issues, file a continuation in part for improvements on the idea. This can extend the life of your patent, but is risky because it is first to file today, not who comes up with the idea first, so someone may beat you to the punch. You also can't let anyone know about your new improvement.
    There are a lot of weasel words that you need to know: comprised of, comprised essentially of, consists of = are all different.

  • @jeanalexandre1105
    @jeanalexandre1105 Před 4 lety

    The idea here is to talk to your lawyer about design around. Make sure you file your best working version of the invention

  • @Soniccues
    @Soniccues Před rokem

    I disagree with the statement that it is not the fault of the Patent Lawyer. This is described as a fundamental issue related to all patents and you hire a Patent Lawyer because they are supposed to be aware of patent needs. The need to get claim one correct and minimally technical so as not to focus too clearly in any one direction seems to be a basic need of any patent and all Patent Lawyers should be aware of this otherwise they should not be a Patent Lawyer. Also, without adding the final claim 1, this is just an add for iPerfectPatent and really did not teach me much. Seeing the outcome of Claim 1 would have really added strength to this video and made it educational.

  • @dduktube
    @dduktube Před 3 lety

    I wished you also present the FIX for it. Not just the problems.

  • @juanmigueloctaviano6736

    What is the patent number ?

  • @Jonathan-uo6ui
    @Jonathan-uo6ui Před 7 lety

    really helpful video thank you! but like the other guy says it was a little bit long but that's no problem cause we have the technoligie on youtube to make it faster. so by no means you have to change your speaking speed just talk like normal.

  • @Zakariah1971
    @Zakariah1971 Před 3 lety

    Onus is on the patent attorney not inventor

  • @markmorley7938
    @markmorley7938 Před rokem

    Hello
    I have many ideas that I feel may be able to gain a patent and if you would be interested I would be willing to share with you my ideas? You can accept or reject any of my ideas because we would both need to receive some kind of gratuity because of our efforts? I am quite familiar to design and the design process but I am clueless in being able to secure a patent. Although I have just listened to your explanation about patents, it is still a minefield and something I would prefer someone like your self to handle? Naturally if you’re interested, you could set the parameters because ultimately my ideas remain as a thought and will never go anywhere without someone like yourself? I could reel off a number of ideas immediately and if you wish to test me out, I am willing to share one of my ideas to identify its eligibility? I don’t really know you but to hear you sharing your experiences, I feel I could trust you. Even if you just look at one idea at a time and it is feasible, I would love to work along side of you! Mark Morley

  • @Zakariah1971
    @Zakariah1971 Před 3 lety

    Moral is critical thinking skill

  • @bestelectronicmusicfromnew5189

    that could have been summarized to a 4 minute video

    • @lambergino
      @lambergino Před 5 lety

      Agreed. However, some of the audience may not fully understand the crucial points in the video if it was condensed to 4m in length; rendering the emphasis useless.

  • @TheRegularGuyDIY
    @TheRegularGuyDIY Před 5 lety +1

    play at 2x speed

  • @thatguyfromca
    @thatguyfromca Před 6 lety +1

    Anyone can beat a patent if they really try.

  • @PearlDrummerFTW
    @PearlDrummerFTW Před 5 lety

    So what I'm getting here is that you have to have as many claims as possible to cover other variants of an idea. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    • @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012
      @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012  Před 5 lety

      Hi, Bruce. No, that's not the point of the video. The point is more about getting the scope of the (or any) INDEPENDENT claims correct. (There's often only one independent claim in the granted patent- especially in the UK/Europe patenting).
      With regards,
      Jethro L Bennett
      Captain of SHIINE® ENTERPRISE
      Creator of The Inventor's Journey™ ( www.TheInventorsJourney.com )
      Inventor, Professional Product Designer, Elite Patent Specialist

  • @AggrandizeProduction
    @AggrandizeProduction Před 5 lety +1

    Cool
    No .cooooooooool

  • @catchin_a_charge2667
    @catchin_a_charge2667 Před 7 lety

    I have a great Idea. This was a lot of help for me. still scared but here we go

    • @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012
      @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012  Před 7 lety

      Glad you enjoyed it. It shows you have good focus that you stayed with it. If you want to see more of what I do (and see an inventor get his patent claim allowed at the patent office in only 18 days (as opposed to the 2-3 years it often takes to get results at the USPTO)), watch this: theinventorsjourney.com/step4.html#giuseppe18days
      Good luck with your invention.
      Jethro L Bennett
      Captain of SHIINE® ENTERPRISE
      Creator of The Inventor's Journey™ (TheInventorsJourney.com)
      Inventor, Professional Product Designer, Elite Patent Specialist

    • @catchin_a_charge2667
      @catchin_a_charge2667 Před 7 lety

      Thanks for your response. Ive had this idea for over 20 years. I cant believe it still hasn't been done. Im clicking your link now. Thanks again.

    • @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012
      @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012  Před 7 lety

      No problem! But remember that you'll need a world-class patent search to start your Journey. That gives you feedback as to what you may be able to (and what you can't) patent. That in turn crystallizes your patenting strategy (if considered correctly) BEFORE you file any patent application (provisional or non-provisional), allowing you to focus your patent application on the EXACT THINGS you're likely to be able to patent, and allowing you to not waste time (and money) describing features and concepts that have been done before (ie that you can't patent). If you want to see more about why a patent search comes first in The Inventor's Journey, check out this link: theinventorsjourney.com/step1.html
      Enjoy!!
      Jethro L Bennett
      Captain of SHIINE® ENTERPRISE
      Creator of The Inventor's Journey™ (TheInventorsJourney.com)
      Inventor, Professional Product Designer, Elite Patent Specialist

  • @Kris-eh3gg
    @Kris-eh3gg Před 5 lety

    very very

  • @markwilliams7091
    @markwilliams7091 Před 5 lety

    I find it difficult to believe if you are sitting in front of a judge w/ your product/idea and the other guy who has copied your product/idea is also sitting in front of judge, that the judge will rule against you because you did not cross a "t" or dot an "i". You will have your patent application. The judge will know it's your idea and the other guy copied it. He may rule against you but that will be because the other guy has a product/idea that is sufficiently different from your idea, not because your patent paperwork did not have the precision exactitude that one would have liked.

    • @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012
      @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012  Před 5 lety +1

      The patent protection of a granted patent is defined by the claims. That's what is 'claimed' for patent, and what has been 'allowed' by the patent office examiner, in the granted patent. Whether you find it hard to believe or not is unlikely to be particularly relevant.
      With regards,
      Jethro L Bennett
      Captain of SHIINE® ENTERPRISE
      Creator of The Inventor's Journey™ ( www.TheInventorsJourney.com )
      Inventor, Professional Product Designer, Elite Patent Specialist

    • @markwilliams7091
      @markwilliams7091 Před 5 lety

      @@shiinetheinventorsjourney8012 Well, Jethro, I can see that you claim to be an Inventor, etc. but, are you an Attorney as well? Have you had to sue someone who has, in your opinion, stolen your idea and you at some point were sitting in front of a judge? I have not but, I have been in court on a number of occasions where contracts and their provisions have been disputed. It has been my experience that judges tend to see through narrow interpretations of contracts and seek the truth in the matter at hand. That is, in fact, why we have judges. It does you no credit that you respond to my comment by not even addressing my premise and that being that any patent will or will not have value if and only if a judge says it does or does not have value. Instead, you bang on, quite dishonestly, about the esoterica of the patent office. Furthermore, I can tell you w/ mathematical certitude that no judge in this entire bloody country is going to be overruled by the opinions of a patent office examiner. As far as the relevancy of my opinions, they have served me well in the court cases I've been involved in.

  • @sandymandy_101
    @sandymandy_101 Před 4 lety

    We get it.... make sure you include every possible way the product can be made.... ok we aren’t stupid...

  • @davidjohnston3083
    @davidjohnston3083 Před 4 lety

    First of all that push broom would never be used inside a house or need to up sweep under furniture. That push broom is purchased primarily for shop floors or driveways. Next the up brush pictured in the beginning of the video is way too short to ever fit any push broom. He would of had to make the "assembly" long enough for the push broom and trim-able to fit a vacuum. And to get a perfect fit needs to be trim-able just to fit a vacuum. And trim-able means more returns due to consumer mishaps trimming it to fit. And nothing I have seen even explains how the mounting bracket connects to the cleaning apparatus. Double stick tape?? djsreps at g...

  • @jhorne18
    @jhorne18 Před 4 lety

    If you are filing a PPA with the US Patent and Trademark Office, notice the address bar (URL) with an orange triangle in your Firefox browser, and after clicking on the "i" next to it, you will see that the connection is not secure. As of this posting (3 March 2020), the site STILL is insecure. I did an extensive amount of research and posted the results in a report, "The gaping security hole in a US Government website", which can be found at Inventors Assistance Center at www.inventorsassistancecenter.biz/help-with-your-invention. My advice to everyone is to read this report and file elsewhere.

  • @esam7865
    @esam7865 Před 6 lety

    Patents worth nothing if its not solving a problem or people are buying or companies aren't licensing it. Is this product on the market?

  • @AlternativeDesign100
    @AlternativeDesign100 Před 7 lety +1

    so you can't patent just the very concept? In which case anyone can look at this, achieve the same result with components arranged slightly differently, and immediately the patent is no longer infringed upon? Surely the pure concept can be patented? A Brush arrangement that serves as a cleaning device reaching up not only down, which may comprise of any for of fixture allowing the brush to be mounted on top of the etc. One can't be nailed to describing details that mean that the slightest change is already a different device? Then patents are utterly useless. I don't get it.

    • @troy1436
      @troy1436 Před 7 lety

      Anyone can steal this concept as long as they make their invention different in some way. For example, Tom sticks his brush to the broom with an adhesive. But if someone creates the same thing except the brush simply slides into a groove and slides out they could argue their invention is effectively different because it's more convenient to use as you can simply remove the brush to clean it and put it back in.
      That's why when in inventing something to have to take your time, put it through a shit ton of tests, look at other similar products and why they failed so that way you can come up with the best idea possible that no one can improve upon.

    • @AlternativeDesign100
      @AlternativeDesign100 Před 7 lety

      it sounds like it's almost impossible to patent anything. It is always possible to make a derivative of something (anything!) by way of a copy and alter the modus operandi / design ever so slightly and hey presto, a device that does exactly the same, only with marginal differences, is there... and not infringing. Most frustrating. I too have something 100% unique and am completely put off patenting it (I would licence it out as I cannot make it myself) but simply can't entertain moving forward for total fear of it being brushed aside by a slightly different concept (in the form of a copy) doing exactly the same.

    • @troy1436
      @troy1436 Před 7 lety +2

      There's also the law of obviousness I forgot to mention. Someone can't make a simple modification to your patent and claim it as whole new invention because that's considered obvious. For example, If you were to patent the first pair of scissors someone couldn't come along and patent the same pair of scissors but with longer/shorter blades because although it now offers a different function it's also an obvious modification. This stops people from ripping off your patent.
      And if someone makes a modification to your invention that doesn't make it better, say for example they take your scissors and they make the blades detachable for some bullshit reason, they may get the patent because creating detachable blades isn't simple but the product would be useless because nobody wants scissors with detachable blades. It'd be a waste of money and nobody would bother filing such a patent.
      That's why it's important you spend as much time as possible perfecting your invention before getting it patented because if someone thinks of a way that genuinely makes it better and it isn't obvious they'll be able to get a patent and compete with you.
      If you were the first person to create the kitchen bin with A flip top lid then someone came along and installed a lever system so it could open with a pedal they'd get the patent on the pedal kitchen bin that is popular today and your bin would become obsolete but that's your fault for not thinking of a better way of operating your invention.
      However, by the time someone improved on your popular invention you'd already be rich so who cares.

    • @AlternativeDesign100
      @AlternativeDesign100 Před 7 lety

      well, ok we'll see then. I'm fairly sure I can cover all major aspects and intend to use wording that could include future enhancements (e.g. "and the system may also be controlled remotely via various types of apps using smartphones" rather than agonize over what sort of specific apps someone might come up with later etc.). I intend to license the concept out to an existing industry that make a particular product where this would then be deployed as a substantial functional addition, and since there is a danger of the Chinese and Koreans wanting to deploy it too (once they get wind of it). So I am hoping that the European industry would perhaps take the concept on board and co-invest to cover a worldwide patent (which I could never afford) as this would otherwise jeopardize the concept/product being used initially in their current products for which I wish to claim royalties if adopted.

    • @troy1436
      @troy1436 Před 7 lety

      Yeah you can add "claims" which is any aspect of the invention you want protected so you've got to figure out all the possible ways it can be duplicated or improved upon etc... But each claim cost $$$. Also, if you figure out the best way to design the invention you won't need to worry about duplicates because nobody will be able to improve on your design, so they'll be patenting an inferior product.

  • @esam7865
    @esam7865 Před 6 lety

    Forget about patents does it sell? The first thing an inventor want to do is go get a 15k patent. You only need protections when you know people want it. What a waste

  • @IkedaDogbo
    @IkedaDogbo Před 7 lety

    Yeah great info but you talk way too slow

  • @Bartetmedia
    @Bartetmedia Před 4 lety

    So basically you have to think and claim the 100 ways your invention can be build.
    Yea right! Lol! It should be about the idea, not how it's made, build or put together.

  • @multiforc271
    @multiforc271 Před 3 lety

    OMG, this video was so time wasting!
    with 1.25 speed....
    The written essence of this video was 1 paragraph with the examples and on video should have been 5 min MAX, with 2 min channel intro and 2 min sponsors adv.

    we should be careful and claims are important, you have took our time for 30 min when you could make an amazing video telling how to write claim and getting more into details instead of this.

  • @bizziff14
    @bizziff14 Před 7 lety +2

    DUDE, talk slower please!! (I'm kidding, keeeeeep it moving bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

  • @chancelord3014
    @chancelord3014 Před 4 lety

    Jesus man this is painfully slow. I couldnt finish it. Sorry.

    • @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012
      @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012  Před 4 lety

      You are aware that if you click the gear/settings icon on the CZcams player that you can set the speed to 1.25 speed and cut around 6 minutes off the video, right? That should make it perfect speed for you. Yes, it is too slow. It was one of the first videos I made with this type of detail, and I made the decision to do it very slowly. With hindsight, I wouldn't do that now. But try the 1.25 speed option and it should be perfect for you. It's an important video, and still quite a few of the inventors who come to SHIINE® ENTERPRISE tell me this was one of the videos that made them decide to use us. And if you look at the LIKE ratio below the video, you can see a lot of inventors are realising the importance of the video.
      With regards,
      Jethro L Bennett
      Captain of SHIINE® ENTERPRISE
      Creator of The Inventor's Journey™ ( www.TheInventorsJourney.com )
      Inventor, Professional Product Designer, Elite Patent Specialist

  • @user-pr4hl5gx6j
    @user-pr4hl5gx6j Před 14 dny

    Failing to demonstrate the proper way to draft a patent is a waste of time and should not take up to 30 minutes. Your video is too long, repetitive, and does not effectively solve the problem, which means the viewer is still likely to make a similar mistake.

  • @user-ni3sp5mz4u
    @user-ni3sp5mz4u Před 6 lety

    This is a scare piece.

    • @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012
      @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012  Před 6 lety

      No it's not. I'm a patent specialist who works with patent attorneys all the time and have had around 30 patents granted in the UK and US that I've self-drafted, filed, and prosecuted to patent. And the example given here is a real life example.
      With regards,
      Jethro L Bennett
      Captain of SHIINE® ENTERPRISE
      Creator of The Inventor's Journey™ ( www.TheInventorsJourney.com )
      Inventor, Professional Product Designer, Elite Patent Specialist

    • @user-ni3sp5mz4u
      @user-ni3sp5mz4u Před 6 lety

      SHIINE® The Inventor's Journey™ So why would VCs, licensors or any investor even care about new patented ideas. Based on this Vid the new biz plan is to hire a ton of researchers to cherry pick very successful patents that only need the slightest silliest revision and claim it for your own. This would make patents worthless. And if it were true it would constantly be exploited by anyone with half a brain and money (VCs), which its not, so I say again this is a scare piece IMHO.

    • @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012
      @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012  Před 6 lety +1

      Hi P272. This seems to be a misunderstanding on your part. That’s not what this video teaches. In fact, this video teaches almost the exact opposite. It teaches that perfect patent protection CAN be achieved, but that fatal mistakes must be avoided, to achieve this. Therefore the teaching of this video is almost the exact opposite of what you’ve said it teaches. (You’ve said/suggested it teaches that perfect patent protection can never be achieved and that any patent/claim can be designed around. It does not teach that).
      The video further teaches that breakdowns in communication can occur between inventor and patent attorney/practitioner (as detailed in this video), (or even lack of correction execution), that lead to fatal mistake(s) in the claim(s) (and/or claiming strategy). That’s why the video teaches that the inventor must at least have the skills to CHECK the claim(s) their patent practitioner drafts, to check there are no fatal flaws, (eg unnecessary limitation).
      Out of interest, what part of the video (please give exact timeframes, such as 2:10-3:20) gave you the impression that the video was saying ‘any claim can be designed around’? That’s almost the exact opposite of the teaching of the video, and I’m struggling a bit to understand how you came to that incorrect understanding, given the content and message of the video is almost the exact opposite. My experience, from feedback speaking to many inventors who watched the video, is that they fully understand its content and message, so I’m interested in what exact parts of the video (please give exact time references, not general references) led to the misunderstanding you’ve experienced.
      Very happy to answer any more questions if you have them.
      With regards,
      Jethro L Bennett
      Captain of SHIINE® ENTERPRISE
      Creator of The Inventor's Journey™ ( www.TheInventorsJourney.com )
      Inventor, Professional Product Designer, Elite Patent Specialist

    • @kalemercer7053
      @kalemercer7053 Před 6 lety +2

      No p272, A "scare piece" usually screams FIRE FIRE FIRE!!! then shows shock images and videos of things on fire, Screams about the world is coming to an end because of said fire, and then ends and nothing more is said on the part of the screamer.
      Jethro has taken the time clearly explained what the problem is, how to avoid it, and offers a tool to address the problem if needed.

    • @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012
      @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012  Před 6 lety +1

      Thanks, Kale. Couldn't have said it better myself. I'll never bring something to your attention (and especially never try to instil concern about it), unless there's a real reason to be concerned. In this case, there's a real reason for concern, and fatal mistakes could happen, without being aware of this.
      The bottom line is, the cure for 'fear' is usually be to well informed, (so you can be in control of the situation). Hopefully this video helps. Thumbs up, and thanks!
      Jethro L Bennett
      Captain of SHIINE® ENTERPRISE
      Creator of The Inventor's Journey™ ( www.TheInventorsJourney.com )
      Inventor, Professional Product Designer, Elite Patent Specialist

  • @green_SCOTT
    @green_SCOTT Před 7 lety

    Oh my God do you talk slow.

    • @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012
      @shiinetheinventorsjourney8012  Před 7 lety +3

      It is a little bit slow, I'll give you that. But if you stay with it, it's a very very important video in your understanding of patenting. Before I re-branded, this had around 20,000 views on our last CZcams channel, and a tonne of comments- more comments than any other video I posted. Many said it was too slow, but many more said it was the best patenting video they'd ever seen, and totally transformed their understanding. Still today, a huge amount of inventors who contact me start by saying 'I saw your video on CZcams', and they're nearly all talking about this one. And as we speak, it has 52 'likes' and only 2 'dislikes'.
      And the question is, what price your Destiny? At 30 minutes long, with the content of this video being so important to you getting the best possible patent protection on your invention, it's gotta be worth a 30 minute watch. But yes, I agree, it should have been around 20-22 minutes ideally.
      Good luck with your invention.
      With regards,
      Jethro L Bennett
      Captain of SHIINE® ENTERPRISE
      Creator of The Inventor's Journey™ (TheInventorsJourney.com)
      Inventor, Professional Product Designer, Elite Patent Specialist

    • @kalemercer7053
      @kalemercer7053 Před 6 lety

      I like his slow, concise and clear explanation.