Should Gareth Southgate build England around Phil Foden or Jude Bellingham? | ESPN FC Extra Time
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Southgate builds around Maguire and Stones, it’s such a silly question
Stones is alright, Maguire is a fridge!!
I mean you need defenders 🤷
Foden is sensational, but Bellingham is a generational talent who can mark an era.
You need both in that team
There's nothing generational about Bellingham.
He´s definitely not. There is no place for Bellingham in the starting 11 right now.
@@k.2754utter nonsense
foden is better
Judes potential is rather monstrous honestly he is 3 years younger then Foden is already playing for Madrid at the age of 20 and is La Ligas top scorer no less at the moment.
There is no question here whoever manages England needs to build around Bellingham, can you imagine him when he reaches Fodens age at 23?
While I agree, on the other side of the picture, you can put Jude anywhere on the pitch with any role, he can win games for you single-handedly.
I see Bellingham playing deeper and scoring less goals when Mbappe and maybe eventually Haaland join
@@TP-pq9xx But Haaland won't be very accepting of a bench role in Real Madrid. There are better players ahead of him. No chance of him joining to mess up the dressing room space. Real Madrid was already willing once to let him go to Man City because they wanted to wait for Mbappe.
If you look at England Saka, is better than both of them and stats show this.
It's easier to start for that Madrid than for the Man City foden played for. Bellingham wouldn't start ahead of KDB at man city when he was 20. Also Foden has just as much if not more potential. Foden at Jude's age was knocking PSG out the UCL with a masterclass, it's not like he wasn't good at 20.
Southgate wouldn’t know how to
😂 he has the highest win rate in Europe
@@stevieC11Hanworthand the least amount of trophies
@@heritier_9522 same amount as Belgium Germany Netherlands Spain Croatia etc. Only Italy and France won trophies since 2017
@@stevieC11Hanworth true but that shows that the win rate doesn’t matter if you don’t win it all
@@heritier_9522 I disagree to a certain extent however that is a valid point
Foden doesn't even consistently start for England. Asking if Southgate should build around Bellingham or Maguire makes more sense.
Lets be honest it should be Jude. Foden is a system player. He is literally anonymous for England.
When he's being played out of position what do you expect
@@BiggestBirdonMars he has played everywhere in forwards positions for England and hasn't done squat. Excuses!
@@forevergooner4400 he has played lw and Rw
Oh wait just saw your name (ur an arsenal fan) explains the foden hate😂😂
Mans got a bigger trophy cabinet than some your legends🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@BiggestBirdonMars it has nothing to do with Arsenal bias. I'm just calling it as I see it. He has not performed great for country like he does for club. That's a fact.
@@forevergooner4400exactly he isn't a forward but a midfielder
I think team England needs to be built around another manager...
Best answer
Makes no sense. Do u see Pep asking himself this who to build around, Foden or KdB? He plays them both! What a noobs lmao! 🥸
These fools actually think they have a good team. Pitiful
Who thinks?
But thats Pep lol we talking about Southgate haha
Jude was the best player in Germany last year, and he’s the best player in Spain this year. Foden is exceptional, but it’s not the same. Bellingham is the crown jewel at the biggest club in the world right now. Foden is another cog in the city machine. One of their key players, and generational sure, but not the same.
Foden is exceptional in by far the best league in the world. Jude has been exceptional in some lesser leagues, but it's not the same.
@@TP-pq9xxFoden has been invisible for England
@@BirdLives7 Could say that about every English player since the 1960s
@@TP-pq9xx Dude stop. Kane turns up. Walker turns up. Shaw, McGuire, Stones, Bellingham, Pickford, Saka all turn up. If we're talking past gens: Cole, Campbell, Rio, Owen all turned up.
@@BirdLives7 None of those players turned up. Turning up isnt about winning a man of the match award or a player of the season, it's about winning the biggest games when it matters most. Not one of those players has done a single notable thing with England.
Those 96-06 Arsenal teams tormented these pundits so much they can't let that go. Explains so much of their Arsenal takes.
I notice Foden plays better and freely without KDB in the City squad.
Jude has more to his game in assisting from def to attack and a motivational leader, potentially next captain once Kane retires.
Just needs to temper his frustrations to those looking to wind him up, but that comes with exp.
Not really, it never really leaves you. Zidane and Keane struggled with temper control throughout their careers and they've won alot. Those actions are spontaneous
Rice will be next Captain for sure
@@user-mv7kh5sv9zJude doesn't have a temper to begin woth i have no idea what hes talking about 😭
@@doml8959No
Foden has almost double the assists and double the expected assists of Bellingham. And Maddison is around that same level as Foden as a passer. Bellingham is not in the same league as a playmaker as either of them and I'm not sure if he will ever reach that level.
How about both? Why does it have to be one? Or even two?
But one thing's for certain: this future should not include Gareth Southgate.
Foden is not even a starter in England, the question should be if England will get a coach that will see foden potential
Who did italy, spain and germany build around?😐 i hope my point is understood
It’s Southgate, he’s building around Maguire
southgate could`nt build lego
😂
I like this crew ,the extra time just extra 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Phil primarily plays in the advanced right half space, Jude primarily plays in a slightly deeper left half space. They naturally fit together and have rice playing in behind. This midfield is all playing in their preferred positions, dont mess it up Southgate! You can also play maddison and let Foden play RW which is what I would do.
With the addition of Mainoo and suddenly England have the opportunity to create a magic square attacking midfield. The danger is counterattacks without the pace of Walker.
To add: I honestly don’t trust Maddison in that position because if his tackling; I think he’s vulnerable to Ref-cards in a tournament
Don, percentage question for you. Is it possible for a player to give 110%? 😂 Love how Don always gets those questions
There is a Burley’s Will tweeter handler coming soon.
Lmfao... I clearly remember last week how you were telling us that " why are England so over hyped and overrated" now we're here again...
They are unreal 😂😂😂
Seriously can’t you people take a joke?
It's quite simple but still too advanced for you. People tweet questions. They pick some questions. They talk about it. Idiots get confused and offended.
lol Dan is hilarious
Foden all the way but not with Southgate as manager.
Let's see who turns up next Tuesday...
They can build around both , so much talent there should be an offensive powerhouse w rice holding no double pivot play Bellingham 8 box to box in front of him then foden plays more a 10 & gets roaming around Kane don’t play him on the wing. U got saka locked rotate grelish sterling rashford whoever southgate
Why do you have to build the team around one player, the way to build a successful squad is to blend all the talents together for the good of the team, not create fake rivalries over who to build it round 🙄
Genious thinking bro
Southgate should resign and takeup gardening.
I was telling my friends last week pep won’t put foden against jacub kiwior it happened because because can’t beat a tougher defender
I'm a United fan but I think 15% is too high. lol It's possible, but we'll have to consistently beat every team below us (which is very unlikely), get a result against Liverpool and Arsenal, and also hope Villa/Spurs continue to drop points. I'm ready for Europa at best.
Crazy thought, build the team around Foden, Bellingham, Saka, and Kane lol
Now we'll see 'Graig Burley's will' as a username...😅
This is the Problem in England football, we should bild around a playmaker. James Maddison both are better in statistics but can't create a big unreadable chances
Foden is reliable,he has been consistent from 4 straight seasons,he has enough quality
and bellingham hasnt been consistent? bro was POTY last season and will do POTY this one
Burley was a rangers fan, his whole family is 🇬🇧🇬🇧
This team has everything to play beyond English style football. Hopefully Southgate can set them up to play well.
Both are phenomenal players, Jude is a leader of men though.
There’s room for both.
They need a new coach that is what England need someone who knows how to use the players in the right position.
Which player is not in their right position?
Weve got the best international 11 and squad by a mile . Southgate will trip up hes not cut out to get it across the line
Quality 😂.In big games anonymous
Yes Dan England have many great players, but when our best 11 arguably includes Maguire and Shaw we aint winning anything.
Why can’t you build around both? Both can easily play different positions.
Answer is obvious. Bellingham. Foden is great against lesser opponents but goes invisible against top teams. When is the last time he did anything against Madrid, LIverpool or Arsenal? Every time Foden does a great game the pundits start praising him like he's Jesus Christ. He got a hat trick against Villa who had five starters out of the lineup. Foden is only good when he plays against poor teams. Bellingham does it against everyone.
He has scored and assisted against madrid and has scored multiple times against Liverpool
Wrong approach.. wrong question.. Spain, Germany did not build around one player when they won the world cup..same as france.. this question only applied to argentina because of a certain messi.. that's it.. end of story.
All of a sudden it’s a Jude vs Phil scenario.. Foden is good but Jude is too top top quality..
Southgate will bottle it with Zidane, Pele, Maradona, Messi, Buffon, Maldini in his team!!!!! He'll play every single one of them out of position
Yes
The short answer is yes!
Jude is rare and on track of becoming the greatest English player ever which fooden stw
They not building anything as long as they keep pairing 2slow Center backs in they back line
It depends on the system you want
If you want a counter system then best is jude, if you want possession then best is foden
But please JUDE IS NOT A 10
You build two different systems. Any decent manger would do that anyway.
The answer is it doesn't matter because they will lose regardless. Stop overhyping these kids they do have talent but let it develop before trying to build a team around a kid.
another moron with a strong opinion
There's only one thing worse than a sour Scotchman- and that's a pretend sour scotchman.
Why not go 4-2-3-1 with Kane , foden, Bellingham, saka as front 4?
It boils down to who is going to show up in the Champions League in the next few weeks 😮💨
Honestly I would rotate and have foden and Maddison play as the 10 to build around and Jude as the deep lying 8.
No he should build team around Beckham and lampard I mean what kind of question is this
Poch deserves 35 ownership 45 and players 20
One thing I have realised is that no one in this panel can be a leader of any football team.
Their good work is parroting. 😊
It's an irrelevant question because Southgate doesn't know how to get the best of anyone. Neither Foden or Bellingham have exactly lit up on fire, especially Foden.
Lmao smh all great teams do not build around a single player it’s a team game, Italy Brazil Barcelona Real Madrid Bayern Munich do not build around a single player
cap,real built around ronaldo, brazil neymar, barca messi, belgium hazard
Should Germany build around Musiala or Wunderkind Florian Wirtrz?
That is actually a tougher call because they seem more similar than Bellingham and Foden.
@@TP-pq9xx nope. One is a Messi like 10 and the other one an Mbappe like attacking midfielder or winger with the craziest dribbeling skills rated on FIFA.
So build against who
James ward prowse😂
Kavlin Philips. What a stupid question.
It simple asf ,,who has showed sign of quality n important at the national team,,,jude
Ok ,so why not build around him,, currently the team is built around kane ,but jude has shown sign of consistency,not like foden,,foden is like vini at Brazil,,,nothing serious
This obsession to "build around" a player
Don't understand why we want one centre piece, why can't there be a group of core players if they all are equally special more or less
Look what happened with neymar
Portugal won the euros when Ronaldo was not on the pitch
Um, both. One is a winger and one's midfielder!
Phil Foden is most talentet English player!
Nah, Jan Venegoor of Hasselink beats him
If mainoo keeps going the way he is....... Give a player like that room you win trophies
😂
Why one person? Just build a team.
Build England team around Palmer
both of them of course to represent the beloved country England. Bellingham makes it special but
It is highly recommended and a MUST for Real Madrid management, board of directors, coaching staff, people working in their club who are involved on the transfer-market to permanently sell who are currently out on loan to play for another football club, do not offer a loan with buy back clause or with a number or percentage rights, recall or return players that are currently on-loan by another football club to play for Real Madrid, ageing ((28) years old and above), inconsistent (due to limited playing time, never have played and always on the bench, poor defensively, not performing well) regardless of age, injury prone, those who are not comfortable playing in different position, that MUST happen on or before July 2027. We are referring to Modric, Kroos, José Ignacio Fernández Iglesias "Nacho", José Luis Mato Sanmartín "Joselu", Vasquez, Daniel Carvajal Ramos "Dani Carvajal", Courtois, Alaba, Rudiger, Arrizabalaga, Mendy, Daniel Ceballos Fernández "Dani Ceballos" Jesús Vallejo Lázaro "Jesus Vallejo", Francisco José García Torres "Fran Garcia", Diaz, Juan Miguel Latasa Fernández "Juanmi Latasa", Reinier Jesus Carvalho "Reinier", Rafael Marín Zamora "Rafa Marin", Nicolás "Nico" Paz Martínez, & Guler.
Once they get sold these are the players should be sign based on their positions on or before July 2027.
Right Back: Jesus Fortea, Malo Gusto
Left Back: Alphonso Davies, Miguel Gutierrez
Centre Back: William Saliba, Leny Yoro, Dean Huijsen
Main Striker: Kylian Mbappe
Lastly Real Madrid must never offer a contract to these players for a RIGHT BACK position, that are inconsistent regardless of age, poor defensively, has disadvantage of height and strength (lacks muscles), proven already that unable to stop wingers/strikers in different leagues, injury-prone, has beyond 60 million euro's transfer-market value, and ageing 27 years old and above, and turning 27 years old and above on year 2027. We are referring to Walker (33), Trippier (33), Di Lorenzo (30), Cancelo (29), Dumfries (27), White (26), Mazraoui (26), Wan-Bissaka (26), Alexander-Arnold (25), Hakimi (25), Tomiyasu (25), Royal (25), Dalot (25), Porro (24), James (24), Frimpong (23), Couto (21), Livramento (21), Bradley (20), Sanchez (20), Lewis (19) and Fresneda (19).
What winger has had an unstoppable game against Rico Lewis? I'm curious.
@@TP-pq9xx why are you interested on signing the academy player of man city? give me reasons why him. elaborate and convince us.
@@chinitopogi7511 I'm not saying Real Madrid should sign him. But you didn't leave a lot of RB names left after eliminating all of those. And like I said no winger has really had a big game against him. I think he would be a quality squad player for any team including Madrid since he plays in multiple positions and will only improve. If you can contribute to the treble winners then you can contribute to any team.
Southgate is holding both Bellingham and Foden back.
Foden is simply the better player.
But he didn't cry more varcelona negreira payed bots
I now understand why England hardly win.Most English fans only want their club players to do well instead of the national team
So they ask the question Foden or Bellingham and derail into dad banter, not remotely funny.
In the euros we will see who is world class but surely Bellingham is Best🎉
Once the english defence is made sth is wen this conversations can start
England have so many attacking stars they shouldn’t build around one player no disrespect Saka has been far better in an England shirt than both Foden and Bellingham. Bellingham is a great player but still feel he gets more hype just because he plays for Real Madrid. For me Saka has been playing at that elite level quality for 3 or 4 years and Bellingham only 5 months. England to focus on getting a coach that doesn’t continually select slow central defenders over defenders with more potential leaving England weak at the back.
Tomori has 5 caps (form has dipped since injury)
Guehi 9 (recently had knee surgery and is another 2-3 weeks from training)
Konsa 2 (impressed in recent friendly but not enough experience at top level)
Dunk?
Don’t see any other pacy defenders coming through atm. Maybe this is one for the academies to develop more pacy, good-on-the-ball defenders. I don’t think that’s up to the England manager.
NVM, Gareth Southgate will become the next manager of MANURE
I’m rooting for France to win the Euros. So Frank can lead the sounds of laughter at Dan.
Foden ghosts in big games. Thats why he didn’t score against Arsenal or Liverpool
These yappers didn't even answer the question
Saka, Foden, Palmer, Bellingham, Rice, Mainoo
Need a strong defence
It's absolutely possible for a player to give 110%, it simply comes with consequences. Just ask Christian Eriksen.
Lol Harry kane. These two should both play for Kane
Phillip Foden is more talented than "Ballon d'Or Bellingham" although Jude has more of a leader type attitude abt him
He going with rashford n Mcguire. goodluck😂
golden boot Maguire
pointless conversation when dealing with southgate.
Build around Foden as he does nothing for England.
Rice jude mainoo or rice foden Jude but good midfields can rotate
No rice plse.
Southplank couldn't build a Leggo house
Henderson
Medfield, @ Rice, Bellingham, foden
Both
What kind of question is this ? Foden can play on the right wing and cut in. They don’t even play the same position for England. You can build around them both
Foden is useless for England on the wings