I have a Panasonic Gh4, which adaptor would be needed to use these lenses? Love your videos man! I'm tryna start shooting a short film by September at the earliest!
DSLR Video Shooter hey, love the vid - I have a G7 what mount would you consider me purchasing? I would like to buy a few of these lenses for my collection
@@alexm7582 You need a Micro 4/3 to M43 adapter to shoot with these lenses on your GH4. Just make sure when you buy the lenses that you are buying the M42 screw mount version of the lenses. hope this answered your question. Happy shooting
I have quite a few of these lenses already in my collection. They are gems. I also like the softer look for moody videos. I could also add that for shooting on these newer camera sensors, especially the larger 42mp A7R III, we are actually asking a lot from these lenses since they were never intended to resolve on these current sensors. That being said, at 4K, I think they do an excellent job and the value for the money cannot be beaten!
Caleb, I really appreciate the generosity of your videos. What I mean by that is: a) you are concise, so you don't waste your viewers' time (and yet your energy is calm rather than the hyped-up vibe that some aspiring tutorial gurus go for) b) You back up all of your suggestions with web links, saving your viewers TONS of research time. That attention to detail extends even to your suggestion to adapt the vintage lenses to Canon EF, then use one EF - NEX (Sony E) adapter on a Sony camera -- with links to recommended adapters. As I said, this thoroughness strikes me as generous. c) You are always cognizant that many people don't have budget for buying the top of the line / trendiest brand name gear, much of which is bizarrely overpriced. You mention Canon FD lenses as another popular (yet more expensive) option for vintage manual lenses. I would LOVE to see a comparison of some of the leading vintage lenses: Chinon vs. Asahi Pentax Super Takumar vs. Canon FD vs. Nikkor ... and maybe throw in a Leica M from the 1980s for the high end. This is great stuff. I will happily point undergraduate film students to your channel.
HUGE fan of adapted vintage lenses for CINE use. You can scale them right up to commercial production film and TV work as well. There is a massive professional DP group that has their own adapted vintage for their commercial work. It's legit, from budget straight up the line to professional. Great video dude.
It’s a great way to go. Ebay is hit and miss for condition, but a big thing to check besides scratches, internal contamination, fungus and haze, is play in the focus ring and the iris ring. Allot of these vintage 35mm format lenses can have some wear and play in the focus that makes the image shift as you make adjustments. So run it through its paces and make sure everything is good before you permanently make it part of your kit. Might need to go through a few copies before you find a good one.
Great video, between eBay and Etsy I found: 28mm 2.8 35mm 2.8 1:2.8 50mm 1:2 55mm 1.7 200mm 3.5 Total $219.05 (including shipping and tax) FotodioX Mount Adapter for M42 Lens to Micro Four Thirds Camera B&H $10.36
To everyone saying prices were way higher, they are DOWN again. Not AS low but I just got the 135mm, 1 50mm, 35mm and 28mm for $280 shipped. I did have to buy 2 different adapters for about $60 bucks, but 4 for just over $300 feels pretty nice! Thanks for the tip!
I got the 135mm after watching this video a few months ago for my new Sony A7iii but didn't use it until today. Wow is all I can really say. The tactile feel of the aperture ring and the smooth resistance of the focus ring had me hooked immediately. I was completely and immediately hooked on pulling focus. This thing blew me away and I can't wait to take it out and shoot with it tomorrow.
Dude, amazing video! Loving the vintage lens content! Used to have a bunch of Chinon lenses, but never went as far as building a whole set. Amazing value for money!
@@bulcub youd have to have the ability to convert the lens mount to your cameras body's mount.... most of the mirrorless cameras have a very expensive selection of converter rings available to them.... except when talking canon to nikon or nikon to canon is about the only exceptions
Combos with complete (or mostly) lens sets are some the best deals because buyers are largely seeking out individual lenses to fill a gap in their set. You can often buy a package with a one highly desirable lens for less than it sells on it's own, and the other lenses can than be sold to pay for the pick of the litter.
These lenses are radioactive. Thorium was used for their production (I advise you to check the information on this topic on the Internet and also note, the reported radiation values are seemingly not harmful, but if you calculate it on a yearly basis, it turns out that only one such lens at home is enough for the radiation dose to remain exceeded - for this reason I got rid of e.g. pentax takumar 50mm 1.4). The Geiger counter is not indifferent to these lenses.
I have a set I’ve just built. All m42 Mount. Vivitar 20mm 3.8, Vivitar 24mm 2.8, Vivitar 28mm 2.5, Auto Sears 55 1.4, Vivitar 135 2.8, Auto Sears 300mm 5.5. Love these lenses.
I've been shooting for years. In fact I started in Black&white developing my own stuff. My first camera was my brother's Nikon F and then a Pentax K1000. I'm shooting mostly sport events and show. (beside the usual landscape and family souvenirs in vacation). I don't quite get why you would want to shoot with old "mushy" stuff... even though it was amazing for the time. Sorry... interesting however. I may, one day, get to use of my old Nikkor 28mm 2.8 circa 1980!
I realize that these recommendations are more for the professional cinematographer, however, I feel like the lack of sharpness and the variability of sharpness across the frame that contribute to it's character don't look very good to my eyes at all... also cine lenses like this pretty much require a follow focus which is somewhat difficult to manage as a solo camera operator and thus will often require a first AC to get it right... to me, part of the appeal of these new modern systems is that you CAN do solo run-and-gun work. I like having the choice of autofocus availible (even if i do keep it off most of the time, and I like having the availability of optical image stabilization (even if i keep it off most of the time), and I like that I can get full-time tack sharpness and fully-plainerimage smoothness with consistent color, brightness, and focus across the frame... I find that consistency can really help if you choose to do post-processing or effects shots. Are these cine lenses inexpensive and do they make for some great character if you're looking for a different look? absolutely! but they certainly won't be my first choice for doing anything professional unless the material calls for something that looks odd or "vintage".
I use these lens gears and really like them: www.ebay.com/i/291897239879?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=291897239879&targetid=474173411029&device=m&adtype=pla&googleloc=9003852&poi=&campaignid=1669934831&adgroupid=65058350299&rlsatarget=pla-474173411029&abcId=1139296&merchantid=6296724&gclid=Cj0KCQjwgezoBRDNARIsAGzEfe6ikURhGyszm_ewm_2pH841hL1hBvQGwwpH4CPWTA62dcX6oppp8vYaAsPJEALw_wcB The company is friendly and professional. The best part is these are affordable. - Paul
@@matiasgoinheix366 You're welcome! Hahh thanks :) I use this: cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0859/0770/files/LuxGear_Key_US_Letter_7c85916b-d705-46f4-99f0-f40b26ab0986.pdf?1974161116425669036 to measure my lenses to find what size the gears need to be. - Paul
Chinon is a Japanese brand, but some part of its history has roots on Samyang. Rokinon, Samyang, XEEN, and some part of Chinon lenses were all manufactured in a small-scale factory in southern South Korea.
There are many alternatives, i got a whole set of Minolta MC/MD Lensens for a similar price. IMO they are superior in Quality and Image 24 28 35 2,8 50/55 1,7 135 2,8/3,5 200 4
I literally posted an Auto Chinon 55mm 1.4 on Ebay that has been sitting in my gear pile earlier this week. I was wondering why it has so many bids & watchers, until I saw this video haha! Great video, and thanks for the extra bids coming my way!
wow... I remember using such a 55mm Chinon lens. With great results in landscape photography. Nice to know this gear still performs today. And thank you Caleb for refreshing our tired minds ! ✋🙂
Hey Caleb, where did you get focus gears for them? I was actually looking to pick up a couple, then this vid sealed the deal. I just wondered where to get the focus gears, and what size. Could you also tell me what you use to get a cap on them, do you just by step-up rings then a standard cap? Thanks for all the vids!
I was just looking for m42 mount lenses to pair it with my helios 44m when the ring belt. Really appreciate your contribution for low budget filmmaker starters
*sees video posted* *Goes to ebay to purchase 28mm and 35mm* *find some of each for $20-$30* *clicks buy now* "Sorry this item is out of stock" Caleb... You're a blessing and a curse my man...
I own the 28 and I love it. It's sharp wide open and the color are good and warm. My is softer at 2.8 and the right side is muddy maybe off center but I love it 🥰🥰 Easy to focus so go for it. I got mine for around 22€
Bottom line, with a mirrorless body you can adapt to many different lens mounts fairly cheaply and easily. In older lenses you're talking manual focus but that doesn't have to be scary. Pentax made a huge range of really solid metal prime/zoom lens that are just awesome. Get out there and get creative, you don't need to play the newest gear game, focus on making rather than gear dreaming. Nice video.
You can make them yourself using Autodesk Fusion 360 It is a Free CAD Software (one of the best) an has a good tool for gears All you need to know is that a standard follow focus gear has a module of 0,7 with the module an your outer diameter you can construct the gear ring
Might be a bit off topic, but is there a chance you can cover in a future video the process of 3D printing your focus rings? I just got a printer myself, but I found your use of it brilliant! Thank you in advance, great video, and fantastic lenses covered here!
You've linked an EF to M4/3 adapter in the description. Isn't it better if we buy a Viltrox speedbooster instead of the Commlite adapter? The Viltrox costs less and is as good as a Metabones speedbooster from what I read and watch on CZcams. Do you agree? Can you make a video on speedbooster and adapters, comparing the most prominent?
Hey Caleb, Thanks for this great video. I just did some searching and found a Chinon CE-4 35mm camera with a 50mm 1.9 + 28mm 2.8 + 135mm 2.8 - all for $49.99 on Etsy!!! OMG what a score! :)
I have been collecting vintage glass for awhile, amazingly from garage sales and flea markets. They have a distinctive look I feel that modern lenses don’t.
This is great. The most affordable cine-zoom I know are the Navitar super-16mm zoom and they are AMAZING. I mean they see that your eyes see, it's incredible, sharpest lenses I have ever had, you can find them for betweem 300 and 400$ in eBay, try to get your hands on a benchmarked versions adapted for MFT. Get this on a BM4K and you're gonna be ready for Netflix.
Hi there. Chinon in Europe was imported by Dixon Ltd which is still going. At the time Dixons had their base line called Prinz which was branded photo & cine goods made by various companies. However Chinon was marketed as exclusive to Dixons & their premium brand. Chinon did when video started to come to the market in the early 1980 produce a video camera which was rather basic. And in the mid 90s the company was bought by Kodak & later the name was all but dropped. Chinon did produce in its time some very good lenses & SLR cameras one such camera being the CE4. I hope that is of some help.
It's hard to find the information on Chinon lenses because Chinon wasn't a lens manufacturer :) They made their camera bodies by themselves though. Chinon lenses were made (just like Vivitars) by several manufacturers and often the same model (by "model" I mean focal length and max aperture combination, not the exact appearance and markings) was made by different companies - there are at least two 35/2.8, at least three 135/2.8 and so on.
I've watched your "bargain lenses" videos before, and they're always very interesting. What is also interesting is how one of these videos drives up the prices of the lenses covered on eBay! I have a whole collection of Nikon manual lenses from the 1960's to 80's, and an adapter for my Panasonic G7. Think I'll try out some of them!
Thanks Jacob! I've been working on this collection for sometime now, found the 50mm f1.7 for $10 at a antique store, and the 135 f2.8 for $35 at another. After seeing this video I'll continue to look for the rest...happy hunting.
Cison are great lenses also. I have a few that were made for Pentax K mount, and M42. I have added adapters for my Canon EF mount. Works great. Just be sure to remove the aperture control arm sticking out the back. Thanks for your video.
I have a Soviet "set" of 37mm Mir 1B, 58mm Helios 44, 85mm Jupiter 9A, 135mm Jupiter 11B, 200mm Jupiter 21M. I wonder how well they would compare with the Chinons.
man, how many vintage lenses do you have now? Must be quite the collection. A personal favourite of mine is the helios 44-2 58mm f2. That lens is just superb. Everyone talks about the swirly bokeh but for me the thing that I love about it is the colour, which is extremely flattering on skin tones. It has a look.
If you want to use on Eos EF OM and M42 will be Ok to infinity, PK won't ... If you have NK mount.. OM mount is close to Nikon but the actual mount will have to be swapped... $15 a time whereas EOS cheap ring is only $4. If you have Nikon DSLR a Super Takumar M42 55mm f1.8/f2 that you can find cheap will focus to infinity if you wind out rear element.. NK search for certain Vivitars. Study the reviews and look for certain particular serial numbers.. e.g. starting with 28 = Komine 22 = Kino..
I had the Chinon 55mm f/1.7 M42 mount lens back in my Pentax days. It was really nice! I do regret letting it go when I switched to Nikon DSLRs in ~2012 because now that I have mirrorless camera it would have been much more usable. Nice video. :)
Thanks for sharing how great the Chinon lenses are. I have been using them for several years (35mm 2.8, 55mm 1.7, and the 135mm 2.8) love these lenses.
I like the way you have given this vintage glass a consistent look by using the step up rings and focusing gears, very clever! I shoot on GH5, G9 and S5 FF. My go to and favorite vintage glass includes; SMC Pentax 50mm f1.4, Canon FDL 50mm f1.8, Nikkor 105mm f2.5, Canon FDL 70~210 f4 and the Fujinon 55mm f1.8. The highlight roll off and micro contrast as well as color rendition produces FILMIC quality images which modern glass just does not give. And I have the excellent Leica 10~25mm f1.7 beast! LIKED and SUBED 👍
En realidad con un sensor APS-C en principio estarias utilizando el centro de la lente, asi que la calidad no deberia variar. (Google translate: Actually with an APS-C sensor you would be using the center of the lens in principle, so the quality should not vary.)
Hi Caleb, I love the studio lighting setup you did in this video! Very clean and dynamic with the big halo of light around you. I am starting a CZcams channel and creating my video set-up right now. I would greatly appreciate it if you could tell me how to achieve that big beautiful halo of light around you. It looks like you are using a 3 light setup- #1 light is a big spotlight with big softbox or diffuser panel directly in front of you to achieve the halo effect and light the table, #2 light is from the side as your key light to light up your face, #3 light is a rim light up behind you to light up your hat and the darker side of the face. Is this correct? Btw, I love all your videos and the way you explain everything is so clear and helpful!
A lot of these old lenses are actually super nice for modern high res digital cameras. Both for video and for stills. My favourites are the Takumars and the Zuikos. But shhhhhhhhh, don't tell ebay!
You can find some of these Chinon lenses going under the names like Auto/Revuenon, Agfa. Related to M42/K-Pentax mount lenses some great options are Ricoh's Rikenons ;)
I've picked up a auto chinon 28-50 lens. it has a stuck zoom ring and an inactive aputure ring. i have not been able to find another one so i'm not sure how common it is. 55 dollars. if i can get it to work i'm excited to use it. Also my confidence in it being full frame is wavering. It doesnt look big enough.
I own the 55mm f1.7 and 28mm f2.8 and use them on my 5DMkIII (with the Fotodiox PK adapter). Just be aware that there is a small lever on the rear of the lens that you will need to bend/remove with this combo - otherwise the mirror catches on it. For a mirrorless this is obviously not a problem! ;) The 55mm looks awesome when I shoot 3.5K Magic Lantern Raw!
Caleb do you have any video talking about zoom lenses? I usually default to using primes but have been interested in getting something I can keep on my camera without switching lenses as often for run and gun scenarios.
Nice video, thanks for making it! One of the things that distinguishes lenses for me is how to they are able in coping with strong backlighting: are they able to retain colors, nuances and such. For instance, my Nikon AF-D 50mm with a planar lens design is on the one hand a steal for use indoors, but a nightmare when using outside. It literally shows no contrast whatsoever when shooting in harsh sunlight (and I live in the Netherlands, where there is not so much sun, mind you).
You should do a video on how you printed those focus rings. I mean, I can guess how, but still. Looks way more elegant than the zip tie looking solutions I've seen.
sadly just found this video as these lenses are scarce and far more expensive now on Ebay it seems but DEFINITELY something im keeping an eye out for love the look!
Thank you for sharing this set of lenses. They are super affordable. Just would like to know is it possible to share the 3D models for the focus gear you used on those lenses?
The 28 mm shown here seems to be the first gen of 28 mm, see AUTO CHINON, maybe even CHINON FLEX gen. It got it's way through CHINON AUTO & maybe AUTO MC too. It could be the best one for Bokeh, but not sure about central definition. One of the other gen seems better rated on that matter. Adapters here seems to bring some mess : look @ 6:18 from top to bottom on both 50s witch are compared. Can you dream of a better mess ? Btw the 50 mm 1.7 is darn good on M4/3, GH5, even better than a lot of 50s wide open like Konica 52 1.8, Mamiya 50 1.4... Take care of the talent too. See American food gate & sugar problems. Thx as usual for the tips.
I really like the lighting😃 I think the darker set was causing some banding due to the CZcams compression methods. REALLY good attitude of you to take feedback from the comments and improve your quality!!!
Of course it work well with bmpcc4k just remember the crop factorand get the right adapter, you gonna lack wide angles with this kit on m4/3, but the image quality will be great !
@@KoltynGames There is a website called Google.com and you can type the camera mount mentioned by Caleb adapter to M4/3 or M43. Am pretty sure you'll get millions of result :)
Many older used lenses are really very good and very affordable. They can be found easily on eBay. However their condition varies, their photos don't reveal many things and individual sellers many times are not honest. Of course there are professionals sellers with thousands of good reviews that are specialized on older lenses.
Curious to try some on the GH5. Crop sensor probably wouldn't show that darkness in the corners. Though of course the focal length translates differently.
You can’t find these as a package in Germany or Europe.you should search for each one of them individually and the price are way more than what has been mentioned here
Wow! This video and that about 10 cameras for under 300 bucks are the best if somebody wanna start making films. For 600$ you super cool filmmaking setup. How searching this things?
Hey Caleb! I’m having an issue with my m42 to EF adapters (Fotodiox Pro V2 and generics) They have too much play when used on my .64 Metabones speedbooster. (Can’t touch the lens or use a motor on it because the image being jolted is so noticeable) Native Canon fit snug and great! Any new reasonably priced adapter recommendations ?
Can you talk more about the 3D printed cinegears? Did you make the 3D file? Did you use Blender? Do you have some available for every vintage lens in your videos? Where can we download these files?
Chinon is a good lens set I’ve got a 50mm spent 25pounds on it. Mind you I like the Pentax Takumar 50mm 1.4 the lens is awesome. Plus the monolta 1.4. I like the M42 the best...
Thanks for the informative video. I was wondering about Chinon lenses for cinema, since I have a couple I've been impressed with, especially the 50mm/1.7. A trivial note: It's not SHEE - NON, it's CHEE-NON, with the "Chi" pronounced as in "cheetah".
So sorry about the sound in this video guys! Make a big whoopsie! Have a great day!
I have a Panasonic Gh4, which adaptor would be needed to use these lenses? Love your videos man! I'm tryna start shooting a short film by September at the earliest!
Amazing new set up
DSLR Video Shooter hey, love the vid - I have a G7 what mount would you consider me purchasing? I would like to buy a few of these lenses for my collection
We all make a whoopsie now and again!
@@alexm7582 You need a Micro 4/3 to M43 adapter to shoot with these lenses on your GH4. Just make sure when you buy the lenses that you are buying the M42 screw mount version of the lenses. hope this answered your question. Happy shooting
"Hi everyone, I'm Caleb with DSLR Video Shooter and I just picked up these lenses for just $256"
***Price on eBay spikes 1000 percent*** ;)
Kit Kohler No joke. Every lens on the list is already around $100 a pop.
cri
Just say the 35mm going 100$
I was just thinking about it...
you have the longest name ever.
I have quite a few of these lenses already in my collection. They are gems. I also like the softer look for moody videos. I could also add that for shooting on these newer camera sensors, especially the larger 42mp A7R III, we are actually asking a lot from these lenses since they were never intended to resolve on these current sensors. That being said, at 4K, I think they do an excellent job and the value for the money cannot be beaten!
Caleb, I really appreciate the generosity of your videos. What I mean by that is: a) you are concise, so you don't waste your viewers' time (and yet your energy is calm rather than the hyped-up vibe that some aspiring tutorial gurus go for) b) You back up all of your suggestions with web links, saving your viewers TONS of research time. That attention to detail extends even to your suggestion to adapt the vintage lenses to Canon EF, then use one EF - NEX (Sony E) adapter on a Sony camera -- with links to recommended adapters. As I said, this thoroughness strikes me as generous. c) You are always cognizant that many people don't have budget for buying the top of the line / trendiest brand name gear, much of which is bizarrely overpriced.
You mention Canon FD lenses as another popular (yet more expensive) option for vintage manual lenses. I would LOVE to see a comparison of some of the leading vintage lenses: Chinon vs. Asahi Pentax Super Takumar vs. Canon FD vs. Nikkor ... and maybe throw in a Leica M from the 1980s for the high end.
This is great stuff. I will happily point undergraduate film students to your channel.
HUGE fan of adapted vintage lenses for CINE use. You can scale them right up to commercial production film and TV work as well. There is a massive professional DP group that has their own adapted vintage for their commercial work.
It's legit, from budget straight up the line to professional.
Great video dude.
I've seen amazing stuff done with the old Russian Helios lenses adapted to EF. Going for $50-$100 on eBay, super clean.
@@MatthewHinmanTexas Russian glass gets a lot of attention, but check out SMC Takumar M42 mounts. Those are photography's best kept secrets ;)
It’s a great way to go. Ebay is hit and miss for condition, but a big thing to check besides scratches, internal contamination, fungus and haze, is play in the focus ring and the iris ring. Allot of these vintage 35mm format lenses can have some wear and play in the focus that makes the image shift as you make adjustments. So run it through its paces and make sure everything is good before you permanently make it part of your kit. Might need to go through a few copies before you find a good one.
Great video, between eBay and Etsy I found:
28mm 2.8
35mm 2.8 1:2.8
50mm 1:2
55mm 1.7
200mm 3.5
Total $219.05 (including shipping and tax)
FotodioX Mount Adapter for M42 Lens to Micro Four Thirds Camera B&H $10.36
Oh wow! Great price!
@@dslrvideoshooter Have you ever checked out - www.etsy.com
To everyone saying prices were way higher, they are DOWN again. Not AS low but I just got the 135mm, 1 50mm, 35mm and 28mm for $280 shipped. I did have to buy 2 different adapters for about $60 bucks, but 4 for just over $300 feels pretty nice! Thanks for the tip!
I got the 135mm after watching this video a few months ago for my new Sony A7iii but didn't use it until today. Wow is all I can really say. The tactile feel of the aperture ring and the smooth resistance of the focus ring had me hooked immediately. I was completely and immediately hooked on pulling focus. This thing blew me away and I can't wait to take it out and shoot with it tomorrow.
Looking forward to more vintage lens reviews, I love the look as opposed to the overly sharp digital look.
Can you do a video on how you 3d-printed the focus gear?
Looking like Unbox Therapy tbh haha looks nice tho
Chinoismedia more like D2D Dave Lee standing desk
That is exactly how I felt. If this was a step and a half brighter it'd be the exact same.
Unbox Therapy shoots more ultra wide angle.
UT is also a scam artist
@@zacharybohlman4069 No he's not! I am!
Dude, amazing video! Loving the vintage lens content! Used to have a bunch of Chinon lenses, but never went as far as building a whole set. Amazing value for money!
All hail the vintage lens king!!! Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it :-)
I’ve done similar but with Takumar SMC screw mount lenses. They translate beautifully to video.
The SMC Takumars are way superior lenses!
will those lens work on sony cameras? and which models? thanks
@@bulcub youd have to have the ability to convert the lens mount to your cameras body's mount.... most of the mirrorless cameras have a very expensive selection of converter rings available to them.... except when talking canon to nikon or nikon to canon is about the only exceptions
Pretty smooth transition to the new set. New, but familiar. Great job!
needs more purple! LOL
Thanks boss!
Bro you are definitely one of the few CZcamsrs who has the cleanest lighting!
Aw thanks man!
Combos with complete (or mostly) lens sets are some the best deals because buyers are largely seeking out individual lenses to fill a gap in their set. You can often buy a package with a one highly desirable lens for less than it sells on it's own, and the other lenses can than be sold to pay for the pick of the litter.
These lenses are radioactive. Thorium was used for their production (I advise you to check the information on this topic on the Internet and also note, the reported radiation values are seemingly not harmful, but if you calculate it on a yearly basis, it turns out that only one such lens at home is enough for the radiation dose to remain exceeded - for this reason I got rid of e.g. pentax takumar 50mm 1.4). The Geiger counter is not indifferent to these lenses.
I have a set I’ve just built. All m42 Mount. Vivitar 20mm 3.8, Vivitar 24mm 2.8, Vivitar 28mm 2.5, Auto Sears 55 1.4, Vivitar 135 2.8, Auto Sears 300mm 5.5. Love these lenses.
I've been shooting for years. In fact I started in Black&white developing my own stuff. My first camera was my brother's Nikon F and then a Pentax K1000.
I'm shooting mostly sport events and show. (beside the usual landscape and family souvenirs in vacation).
I don't quite get why you would want to shoot with old "mushy" stuff... even though it was amazing for the time. Sorry... interesting however.
I may, one day, get to use of my old Nikkor 28mm 2.8 circa 1980!
I realize that these recommendations are more for the professional cinematographer, however, I feel like the lack of sharpness and the variability of sharpness across the frame that contribute to it's character don't look very good to my eyes at all... also cine lenses like this pretty much require a follow focus which is somewhat difficult to manage as a solo camera operator and thus will often require a first AC to get it right... to me, part of the appeal of these new modern systems is that you CAN do solo run-and-gun work. I like having the choice of autofocus availible (even if i do keep it off most of the time, and I like having the availability of optical image stabilization (even if i keep it off most of the time), and I like that I can get full-time tack sharpness and fully-plainerimage smoothness with consistent color, brightness, and focus across the frame... I find that consistency can really help if you choose to do post-processing or effects shots.
Are these cine lenses inexpensive and do they make for some great character if you're looking for a different look? absolutely! but they certainly won't be my first choice for doing anything professional unless the material calls for something that looks odd or "vintage".
FINALLY SOMEONE RECOGNIZES THESE LENSES!!! I had some for a while and couldn't find ANYTHING on these guys. Dirt cheap, full frame, awesome colors.
Hi DSLR Video, couls you please elaborate on those cine focus rings? Thanks
I use these lens gears and really like them: www.ebay.com/i/291897239879?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=291897239879&targetid=474173411029&device=m&adtype=pla&googleloc=9003852&poi=&campaignid=1669934831&adgroupid=65058350299&rlsatarget=pla-474173411029&abcId=1139296&merchantid=6296724&gclid=Cj0KCQjwgezoBRDNARIsAGzEfe6ikURhGyszm_ewm_2pH841hL1hBvQGwwpH4CPWTA62dcX6oppp8vYaAsPJEALw_wcB
The company is friendly and professional. The best part is these are affordable.
- Paul
@@PaulHarwood856 This is what I was looking for, thanks a lot.
@@-gbogbo- You're so welcome! - Paul
@@PaulHarwood856 This is exactly what I need. Thanks for sharing that man! You rock.
@@matiasgoinheix366 You're welcome! Hahh thanks :) I use this: cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0859/0770/files/LuxGear_Key_US_Letter_7c85916b-d705-46f4-99f0-f40b26ab0986.pdf?1974161116425669036 to measure my lenses to find what size the gears need to be. - Paul
Chinon is a Japanese brand, but some part of its history has roots on Samyang. Rokinon, Samyang, XEEN, and some part of Chinon lenses were all manufactured in a small-scale factory in southern South Korea.
Not really related to the video:
What is the setup on that camera shown on screen?
Is that what you use to shoot tabletop b roll?
I went with the Takumar cine set..video dropping soon!
I can't find your video for the cine set.
There are many alternatives, i got a whole set of Minolta MC/MD Lensens for a similar price. IMO they are superior in Quality and Image
24 28 35 2,8
50/55 1,7
135 2,8/3,5
200 4
I literally posted an Auto Chinon 55mm 1.4 on Ebay that has been sitting in my gear pile earlier this week. I was wondering why it has so many bids & watchers, until I saw this video haha! Great video, and thanks for the extra bids coming my way!
Bruh, I clicked on one of the eBay links and EACH one of them costs $600+ 😂
i found the 135 for $40
Thats what happens when a popular youtuber overhypes a vintage lens lol it always goes back down after the bounce
wow... I remember using such a 55mm Chinon lens. With great results in landscape photography.
Nice to know this gear still performs today.
And thank you Caleb for refreshing our tired minds ! ✋🙂
Hey Caleb, where did you get focus gears for them? I was actually looking to pick up a couple, then this vid sealed the deal. I just wondered where to get the focus gears, and what size. Could you also tell me what you use to get a cap on them, do you just by step-up rings then a standard cap? Thanks for all the vids!
I was just looking for m42 mount lenses to pair it with my helios 44m when the ring belt. Really appreciate your contribution for low budget filmmaker starters
*sees video posted*
*Goes to ebay to purchase 28mm and 35mm*
*find some of each for $20-$30*
*clicks buy now*
"Sorry this item is out of stock"
Caleb... You're a blessing and a curse my man...
Its a doubled edged sword for sure! Hate and love doing it! Should start a private club where we share this info but don't mess up the market.
I own the 28 and I love it. It's sharp wide open and the color are good and warm. My is softer at 2.8 and the right side is muddy maybe off center but I love it 🥰🥰 Easy to focus so go for it. I got mine for around 22€
Bottom line, with a mirrorless body you can adapt to many different lens mounts fairly cheaply and easily. In older lenses you're talking manual focus but that doesn't have to be scary. Pentax made a huge range of really solid metal prime/zoom lens that are just awesome. Get out there and get creative, you don't need to play the newest gear game, focus on making rather than gear dreaming. Nice video.
dude, at first I thought I clicked on an UnboxTherapy video by mistake
I definitely see it now too!
Same
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Is this all for $256?
Can you share the 3D files for the focus gear? Plz :)
im sure there's some online. google it.
You can make them yourself using Autodesk Fusion 360
It is a Free CAD Software (one of the best) an has a good tool for gears
All you need to know is that a standard follow focus gear has a module of 0,7
with the module an your outer diameter you can construct the gear ring
Recently got a M42 adapter for my A7r3, had some 50 1.8 a 135 and a 28 laying around. Works fine! (diff. brand)
Funny timing was legit just searching around for Cine lenses, vintage and affordable. Long time sub...great stuff dude
weird how that happens!
Thank you Dawwal!
Might be a bit off topic, but is there a chance you can cover in a future video the process of 3D printing your focus rings? I just got a printer myself, but I found your use of it brilliant! Thank you in advance, great video, and fantastic lenses covered here!
Hey ! I'm looking for the same thing, did you got some info ? :)
You've linked an EF to M4/3 adapter in the description. Isn't it better if we buy a Viltrox speedbooster instead of the Commlite adapter? The Viltrox costs less and is as good as a Metabones speedbooster from what I read and watch on CZcams. Do you agree? Can you make a video on speedbooster and adapters, comparing the most prominent?
loving the new lighting, and these lenses are beautiful!
Yo! Can you guys share the .obj file for the 3d printed gears?! I def wanna print some out for these bad boys!!
Hey Caleb, Thanks for this great video. I just did some searching and found a Chinon CE-4 35mm camera with a 50mm 1.9 + 28mm 2.8 + 135mm 2.8 - all for $49.99 on Etsy!!! OMG what a score! :)
I have been collecting vintage glass for awhile, amazingly from garage sales and flea markets. They have a distinctive look I feel that modern lenses don’t.
This is great. The most affordable cine-zoom I know are the Navitar super-16mm zoom and they are AMAZING. I mean they see that your eyes see, it's incredible, sharpest lenses I have ever had, you can find them for betweem 300 and 400$ in eBay, try to get your hands on a benchmarked versions adapted for MFT. Get this on a BM4K and you're gonna be ready for Netflix.
Oh and also the range is like 22-220mm at f1.8 it is CRAZY
Hi there. Chinon in Europe was imported by Dixon Ltd which is still going. At the time Dixons had their base line called Prinz which was branded photo & cine goods made by various companies. However Chinon was marketed as exclusive to Dixons & their premium brand. Chinon did when video started to come to the market in the early 1980 produce a video camera which was rather basic. And in the mid 90s the company was bought by Kodak & later the name was all but dropped.
Chinon did produce in its time some very good lenses & SLR cameras one such camera being the CE4.
I hope that is of some help.
Tell us about the focusing and aperture gears that you had 3d printed and added! There isnt a really good solution available to buy yet.
Same here I’ve been looking but no luck. Please add
Finally! For once I'm on time to watch your video (before it blows up).
It's hard to find the information on Chinon lenses because Chinon wasn't a lens manufacturer :) They made their camera bodies by themselves though.
Chinon lenses were made (just like Vivitars) by several manufacturers and often the same model (by "model" I mean focal length and max aperture combination, not the exact appearance and markings) was made by different companies - there are at least two 35/2.8, at least three 135/2.8 and so on.
I've watched your "bargain lenses" videos before, and they're always very interesting. What is also interesting is how one of these videos drives up the prices of the lenses covered on eBay! I have a whole collection of Nikon manual lenses from the 1960's to 80's, and an adapter for my Panasonic G7. Think I'll try out some of them!
Wow, you caused a price spike !!! Please don't talk about the super takumars lol
Gotta snatch them all before he eventually does :D
Why would you say this he probably didn't even knew about them.
Taks is where it's at. Love my set
Yes so much so this video should have its titled removed and have all mentions about price anoted as *affordable.
Every “budget” video he has made has raised the price of them it’s annoying 😂
Really cool that you're sponsoring yourself. A very professional way to advertise educational products you made.
Thanks Jacob! I've been working on this collection for sometime now, found the 50mm f1.7 for $10 at a antique store, and the 135 f2.8 for $35 at another. After seeing this video I'll continue to look for the rest...happy hunting.
Cison are great lenses also. I have a few that were made for Pentax K mount, and M42. I have added adapters for my Canon EF mount. Works great. Just be sure to remove the aperture control arm sticking out the back. Thanks for your video.
I have a Soviet "set" of 37mm Mir 1B, 58mm Helios 44, 85mm Jupiter 9A, 135mm Jupiter 11B, 200mm Jupiter 21M. I wonder how well they would compare with the Chinons.
What did you think of the colorcast? I know Sony skin tones aren't the most pleasing to most people, but everything looks more magenta than usual.
man, how many vintage lenses do you have now? Must be quite the collection. A personal favourite of mine is the helios 44-2 58mm f2. That lens is just superb. Everyone talks about the swirly bokeh but for me the thing that I love about it is the colour, which is extremely flattering on skin tones. It has a look.
If you want to use on Eos EF OM and M42 will be Ok to infinity, PK won't ... If you have NK mount.. OM mount is close to Nikon but the actual mount will have to be swapped... $15 a time whereas EOS cheap ring is only $4.
If you have Nikon DSLR a Super Takumar M42 55mm f1.8/f2 that you can find cheap will focus to infinity if you wind out rear element.. NK search for certain Vivitars. Study the reviews and look for certain particular serial numbers.. e.g. starting with 28 = Komine 22 = Kino..
Any chance you can give us a link to gears for these lenses??? I have everything I need apart from the gears! Also can I declick these lenses? Thanks
The new lighting set up is amazing! Maybe try a warmer tone too?
Love this kind of content, reminds me of some of your older videos that originally got me subscribed
I'm so excited to get back to this stuff!
I had the Chinon 55mm f/1.7 M42 mount lens back in my Pentax days. It was really nice! I do regret letting it go when I switched to Nikon DSLRs in ~2012 because now that I have mirrorless camera it would have been much more usable. Nice video. :)
I have a vintage 135mm sears which I got for $1.10. I was the only bidder. The thing is its about 210mm on apsc so I don't use it that much.
Thanks for sharing how great the Chinon lenses are. I have been using them for several years (35mm 2.8, 55mm 1.7, and the 135mm 2.8) love these lenses.
I like the way you have given this vintage glass a consistent look by using the step up rings and focusing gears, very clever!
I shoot on GH5, G9 and S5 FF.
My go to and favorite vintage glass includes; SMC Pentax 50mm f1.4,
Canon FDL 50mm f1.8, Nikkor 105mm f2.5, Canon FDL 70~210 f4 and the Fujinon 55mm f1.8. The highlight roll off and micro contrast as well as color rendition produces FILMIC quality images which modern glass just does not give. And I have the excellent Leica 10~25mm f1.7 beast!
LIKED and SUBED 👍
Does it work with the A6500? Does still is as sharp as with the A73?
En realidad con un sensor APS-C en principio estarias utilizando el centro de la lente, asi que la calidad no deberia variar. (Google translate: Actually with an APS-C sensor you would be using the center of the lens in principle, so the quality should not vary.)
I already have a Chinon 50mm F1.9 and a Pentax Takumar 50mm F1.4, and I’ve been dying to adapt them.
I have a 3d printer as well. Would love not only to see your files for that, but an episode on that whole workflow would be awesome!
Hi Caleb, I love the studio lighting setup you did in this video! Very clean and dynamic with the big halo of light around you. I am starting a CZcams channel and creating my video set-up right now. I would greatly appreciate it if you could tell me how to achieve that big beautiful halo of light around you. It looks like you are using a 3 light setup- #1 light is a big spotlight with big softbox or diffuser panel directly in front of you to achieve the halo effect and light the table, #2 light is from the side as your key light to light up your face, #3 light is a rim light up behind you to light up your hat and the darker side of the face. Is this correct? Btw, I love all your videos and the way you explain everything is so clear and helpful!
A lot of these old lenses are actually super nice for modern high res digital cameras. Both for video and for stills. My favourites are the Takumars and the Zuikos. But shhhhhhhhh, don't tell ebay!
You can find some of these Chinon lenses going under the names like Auto/Revuenon, Agfa. Related to M42/K-Pentax mount lenses some great options are Ricoh's Rikenons ;)
I've picked up a auto chinon 28-50 lens. it has a stuck zoom ring and an inactive aputure ring. i have not been able to find another one so i'm not sure how common it is. 55 dollars. if i can get it to work i'm excited to use it. Also my confidence in it being full frame is wavering. It doesnt look big enough.
What kind adapters would I need to attach these to a lumix/micro 4 thirds system?
If anyone can help im also wondering the same
I own the 55mm f1.7 and 28mm f2.8 and use them on my 5DMkIII (with the Fotodiox PK adapter). Just be aware that there is a small lever on the rear of the lens that you will need to bend/remove with this combo - otherwise the mirror catches on it. For a mirrorless this is obviously not a problem! ;) The 55mm looks awesome when I shoot 3.5K Magic Lantern Raw!
Ya witch Chinon 28 ? There are at least 3 of them.
Do you have a sharable file or link for the focus rings? I am interested in printing some at the local Maker's lab. Thanks!
Caleb do you have any video talking about zoom lenses? I usually default to using primes but have been interested in getting something I can keep on my camera without switching lenses as often for run and gun scenarios.
Nice video, thanks for making it! One of the things that distinguishes lenses for me is how to they are able in coping with strong backlighting: are they able to retain colors, nuances and such. For instance, my Nikon AF-D 50mm with a planar lens design is on the one hand a steal for use indoors, but a nightmare when using outside. It literally shows no contrast whatsoever when shooting in harsh sunlight (and I live in the Netherlands, where there is not so much sun, mind you).
You should do a video on how you printed those focus rings. I mean, I can guess how, but still. Looks way more elegant than the zip tie looking solutions I've seen.
sadly just found this video as these lenses are scarce and far more expensive now on Ebay it seems but DEFINITELY something im keeping an eye out for love the look!
Thank you for sharing this set of lenses. They are super affordable. Just would like to know is it possible to share the 3D models for the focus gear you used on those lenses?
The 28 mm shown here seems to be the first gen of 28 mm, see AUTO CHINON, maybe even CHINON FLEX gen. It got it's way through CHINON AUTO & maybe AUTO MC too.
It could be the best one for Bokeh, but not sure about central definition. One of the other gen seems better rated on that matter.
Adapters here seems to bring some mess : look @ 6:18 from top to bottom on both 50s witch are compared. Can you dream of a better mess ?
Btw the 50 mm 1.7 is darn good on M4/3, GH5, even better than a lot of 50s wide open like Konica 52 1.8, Mamiya 50 1.4...
Take care of the talent too. See American food gate & sugar problems. Thx as usual for the tips.
I really like the lighting😃 I think the darker set was causing some banding due to the CZcams compression methods. REALLY good attitude of you to take feedback from the comments and improve your quality!!!
Can you please show if it work well with the Bmpcc 4K 🙏🏾
Of course it work well with bmpcc4k just remember the crop factorand get the right adapter, you gonna lack wide angles with this kit on m4/3, but the image quality will be great !
or get a speedbooster
I've posted some screen grabs in bmpcc4k facebook group recently. With Chinon 28mm
@@martinsauve9932 I have micro 4/3, what kind of adapter would I need to use these lenses?
@@KoltynGames There is a website called Google.com and you can type the camera mount mentioned by Caleb adapter to M4/3 or M43. Am pretty sure you'll get millions of result :)
Can you add links to the stepup rings and the link to the 3d printed files you used for the gears in the description? Thanks.
dont suppose you have a download link to the 3d model for those gears?
I'd be curious to see some comparison shots between these lenses and the modern Canon, Sigma, or Sony lenses that you might have.
Many older used lenses are really very good and very affordable. They can be found easily on eBay. However their condition varies, their photos don't reveal many things and individual sellers many times are not honest. Of course there are professionals sellers with thousands of good reviews that are specialized on older lenses.
Curious to try some on the GH5. Crop sensor probably wouldn't show that darkness in the corners. Though of course the focal length translates differently.
How can you use these with a Blackmagic 4K camera?
These look fantastic. M42 mount I can use on my old Zenit SLR too.
This is such a bargain! Thanks for creating and sharing this video Caleb!!
You can’t find these as a package in Germany or Europe.you should search for each one of them individually and the price are way more than what has been mentioned here
would you recommend these on aps-c crop sensor? Something like a canon m50.
Absolutely! The corner sharpness will improve on crop sensors.
Wow! This video and that about 10 cameras for under 300 bucks are the best if somebody wanna start making films. For 600$ you super cool filmmaking setup. How searching this things?
Hey Caleb! I’m having an issue with my m42 to EF adapters (Fotodiox Pro V2 and generics) They have too much play when used on my .64 Metabones speedbooster. (Can’t touch the lens or use a motor on it because the image being jolted is so noticeable) Native Canon fit snug and great! Any new reasonably priced adapter recommendations ?
Can you talk more about the 3D printed cinegears? Did you make the 3D file? Did you use Blender? Do you have some available for every vintage lens in your videos? Where can we download these files?
Chinon is a good lens set I’ve got a 50mm spent 25pounds on it. Mind you I like the Pentax Takumar 50mm 1.4 the lens is awesome. Plus the monolta 1.4.
I like the M42 the best...
Thanks for the informative video. I was wondering about Chinon lenses for cinema, since I have a couple I've been impressed with, especially the 50mm/1.7. A trivial note: It's not SHEE - NON, it's CHEE-NON, with the "Chi" pronounced as in "cheetah".