Piano may sound better if turned around the other way. put the bass side towards the wall and the treble side facing out. How it's positioned in this video has the treble hitting into the window/wall that might be making the treble too spikey and harsh.
Hi Ray/Amy! I am considering to get a GL 20 in the next few days. Do you know if your unit is Indonesia assembly or Japan one? Since I'm from Indonesia I'm likely getting the Indonesia one, for economical reason. Also, I can't help but notice that the tone of the piano is quite unlike Kawai signature melancholy, instead I feel it's quite bright like a Yamaha but a bit more rounded. What do you think of the tone?
We are shopping for a baby grand for our daughter, and have tested GL10, 20, and 30. We also noticed the tone difference between GL10 and GL20, in which GL20 is noticeably brighter. While I prefer GL20, my kid likes the tone of GL10. I think it is very personal choice. We've confirmed with our local dealer that GL20 is made in Japan, and he showed me the imprint on the piano. But we are in Ontario, Canada. I don't think the prices are different between an Indonesia one and a Japanese one.
and Evelyn S: Your dealer is Wrong, or knows better and intentionally misled you. Look under the hood, the place of manufacture is there. The GL10 and GL 20 are made in Kawai’s Indonesian plant. That plant is nearly a carbon copy of their Hamamatsu Japan plant and their workers are trained in Japan over a couple years. (There is a good video on that.) From what you’ve been told, I’d be cautious of that dealer. The GL 10 significantly lacks bass and has some significant technicals lacking. BUT … it’s VERY reasonably priced. Nothing else comes close in its price range. And it does have a 10 year transferable warranty if you want to trade up later. The GL 20 is a SIGNIFICANT step up. You’ll not go wrong with either. Did you play the 10 and 20 with the same piano configurations? Same floor, same opening of the lid? These make a big difference. The steps between a 10, 20 and 30 are significant. The larger gives stronger and truer bass and more volume - which may be confused with richness (or signature melancholy - as you put it). Remember too< Kawai’s are known for their ability to play ppp. I have learned to play more softly and the Kawai does everything they say regarding pianissimo! We settled on the GL30. Significant cost difference but worth it to us. The sound is magnificent instead of Very Nice. The cost is a big jump. But if you can fit a 5’5” in your home AND intend on playing for a long long time, then seriously consider the GL30 of the three. BUT, if your down to a 10 or a 20, unless money is a very major factor, I would definitely get the 20 over the 10. (Unless she’s a little girl and MAY not continue. The GL10 is a grand AND has the feeling of a grand - this is IMPORTANT over an upright - especially if the youngster has talent.) One last thought: although the Indonesian factory is a carbon copy, and Kawai trains and trains its Indonesian technicians, I am partial to Japan. The technicians their are more like artisans. A little more time and personal attention. Whether its worth the price difference is up to the buyer. Not including the price difference for the step up in size (from GL20 to 30) but the change from Indonesia to Japan is accounting for another 17% (or so - give or take). Also bear in mind the Steinway chose the Kawai plant Japan to build their Boston pianos.
and Evelyn S: Your dealer is Wrong, or knows better and intentionally misled you. Look under the hood, the place of manufacture is there. The GL10 and GL 20 are made in Kawai’s Indonesian plant. That plant is nearly a carbon copy of their Hamamatsu Japan plant and their workers are trained in Japan over a couple years. (There is a good video on that.) From what you’ve been told, I’d be cautious of that dealer. The GL 10 significantly lacks bass and has some significant technicals lacking. BUT … it’s VERY reasonably priced. Nothing else comes close in its price range. And it does have a 10 year transferable warranty if you want to trade up later. The GL 20 is a SIGNIFICANT step up. You’ll not go wrong with either. Did you play the 10 and 20 with the same piano configurations? Same floor, same opening of the lid? These make a big difference. The steps between a 10, 20 and 30 are significant. The larger gives stronger and truer bass and more volume - which may be confused with richness (or signature melancholy - as you put it). Remember too< Kawai’s are known for their ability to play ppp. I have learned to play more softly and the Kawai does everything they say regarding pianissimo! We settled on the GL30. Significant cost difference but worth it to us. The sound is magnificent instead of Very Nice. The cost is a big jump. But if you can fit a 5’5” in your home AND intend on playing for a long long time, then seriously consider the GL30 of the three. BUT, if your down to a 10 or a 20, unless money is a very major factor, I would definitely get the 20 over the 10. (Unless she’s a little girl and MAY not continue. The GL10 is a grand AND has the feeling of a grand - this is IMPORTANT over an upright - especially if the youngster has talent.) One last thought: although the Indonesian factory is a carbon copy, and Kawai trains and trains its Indonesian technicians, I am partial to Japan. The technicians their are more like artisans. A little more time and personal attention. Whether its worth the price difference is up to the buyer. Not including the price difference for the step up in size (from GL20 to 30) but the change from Indonesia to Japan is accounting for another 17% (or so - give or take). Also bear in mind the Steinway chose the Kawai plant Japan to build their Boston pianos.
@@rayyu2263 if the imprint was Hamamatsu, Japan, then it was an older model when they still made it in Japan. (The technicals are still the same as the currently manufactured models. However, beginning a couple - maybe a few - years ago, all the GL 20s are made in Indonesia.
@@kenpeters9807 how much did you pay for your new Kawai GL30? I am at the dealer and was able to negotiate a brand new Kawai GL30 to 17,000 plus delivery . Thank you
QUESTION for you regarding your comment: you mentioned this is a beginner / intermediate piano. I am retired and now have a smaller home have limited space (I cannot accommodate a 5’5”. I have a limited budget and cannot readily afford $30K. So, according to you (and other reviewers ) this is not the right piano for an advanced player. I cannot afford a hundred thousand Mason & Hamlin baby grand. So, what baby grand is for an advanced player? All Kawai’s have the same Millennium III action which controls the feel/touch (whether you’re a rank novice or very accomplished pianist . So, I don’t know why this piano would not be right in the home of an accomplished pianist. Meeting the size criteria, what then would you recommend? And why? Thank you.
@@3melv You are 100% right Kevin. When push came to shove (rubber meets the road) we ended up getting the Kawai GL30. At 5’5” it is a world of difference from the 5’2”. We were surprised. And guess what? With a bit of reconfiguration, it fit nicely! Definitely the right choice. The bucks were half again as much but worth every cent! So, you tell each other, this is our Christmas and birthdays present. I’m 100% with you, get the best you can fit and afford. We’re not experts either, but are partial to grand pianos unless you … quite literally … cannot fit it in your room. We did consider the Kawai GX1; same size, another iteration of cost. It is a professional piano with a lot tweeks over the GL30 both technical and cabinetry. The GL30 is nevertheless, still beautiful and - as my wife put it (… and she knows…) “it sounds magnificent”. We determined it is perfect and will meet all our future needs too. We’ve had it now for five months and are most pleased with our decision. Note too, in a good showroom there are hard floors. If you have carpet, it will be different as to volume and richness. If you have carpet, a step up in size could be warranted. Remember, you can always have a hard surface custom made to fit perfectly under your grand. In our case our room is so perfect for sound that the carpet need not be modified. FYI: I researched the living daylights out of grand pianos. I can’t afford a Steinway, Fazioli or Mason & Hamlin. Used is always an alternative but you first have to find what you want. Then after playing it and being satisfied, you should bring your expert technician with you to thoroughly check it out. Even if you can get away with $50 - $75/hr, with travel, you’re probably looking at least 4-5 hours. So, if you’re looking at used, you MUST bring your technician. FYI: I also seriously considered the Bostons. They ran $2k - $4k more. We’re retired and have to watch our money - but who doesn’t! There are a lot of nice things about the Boston; sadly, our closest SS dealer was not the best. I couldn’t justify the Boston and the Kawai has such a consistent Millennium III action, a 10 year transferable warranty, needs less tuning, and cost less and sounds, feels and looks great. BTW, the Boston is manufactured in the same Kawai facility in Japan that makes their GL30’s on up. Maybe that says something too, I don’t know. I also tried the gamut of many grands, including Yamaha. It boiled down to the two Kawai’s (GL 20 and 30) and two Boston’s (GP156 and 163). The Kawai GL30 won. I don’t think you can go wrong with Kawai, Boston or even Yamaha. Caution, if you go used be very careful, especially with Boston. Boston changed the GP series; the newer ones are very nice, the prior configurations suck. Thank you Kevin for your comments. Most fortunately We concluded that ourselves. To our other readers, don’t be in a position saying, “I wish I would have purchased (the other one). If you need to, wait and save up the extra money.
@@3melv FYI the newer GL30s seem a bit brighter than the prior ones. Mine was manufactured in Hamamatsu Japan in June 2021. Its a good sound and just a bit brighter. Good for you on the Shiguru goal. Fortunately, 5’7” is really pushing it, so I don’t have to convince my bride to spend another $50k. Moreover, at my level and age, it would not be a wise investment. Again, the GL30 is a very fine instrument and, by comparing to the other pianos in its size range, it is underpriced.m(Shhhhh, don’t tell that to Kawai.) Another thing, you mentioned about fast passages. The Millennium III action is in ALL the Kawai Grands. It is known for ppp’s and fast passages. The Kawai’s have a heavier action, but you get used to it. My instructor has a 7’ SS and neighbor has an SS M model. The action on the M is very much like the Kawai. The 7’ SS with the ivory keys is most delightful to play. It’s completely reconditioned but the older pianos need tuning more often - still not much in new climate controlled homes but more often than Kawais. Best to you, Ken P
Just negotiated a brand New GL10 for 10,000 and a GL20 for 11,000. How much did you get yours for? I was originally looking for a new K500 but now I’m interested in a GL20. I’ve been playing for a while and working on Chopin Etudes
For their size these pianos sound very good. The action definitely will satisfy any professional player. It's all about personal preference. Some pianists may like this piano as a professional player, and some may not. Just find what suits your needs.
QUESTION for you regarding your comment: you mentioned this is a beginner / intermediate piano. I am retired and now have a smaller home have limited space (I cannot accommodate a 5’5”. I have a limited budget and cannot readily afford $30K. So, according to you (and other reviewers ) this is not the right piano for an advanced player. I cannot afford a hundred thousand Mason & Hamlin baby grand. So, what baby grand is for an advanced player? All Kawai’s have the same Millennium III action which controls the feel/touch (whether you’re a rank novice or very accomplished pianist . So, I don’t know why this piano would not be right in the home of an accomplished pianist. Meeting the size criteria, what then would you recommend? And why? Thank you.
The lower range of this piano does not produce as rich of a sound as some of the more expensive pianos. It’s a good piano to practice on for any level players but if you play for concerts and competition, this piano will not give you the sound you expect to make in a concert hall or the touch of a concert piano. If you are only comparing grand pianos, this model is a beginner grand piano (not comparing with upright).
Amy Zhang : I don’t know of anyone or anywhere that a piano under 6 foot, and overwhelmingly under 7 foot is used for concerts or that level of entertaining. So, what should one do? Get a 7+ ft grand, move their furniture and blow out the walls of their home? I find it all too common with people not addressing a question in its entirety. At least you did to a significant extent ... the low range. My thoughts are duh, the longer the Bass strings, the more bass. I don’t care if you’re paying $100K for a baby M&H, you’re still (going to be short on bass when compared to a 7, 8, or 9 footer). In my opinion, critics should address the issue which is more often than not, size and a second being price. If on{ listens to the salesmen and critics, everyone would think they should het an 8 ft concert grand (which would overpower the vast majority of homes). I am not picking on you, you at least said where the deficiency is - although that should be obvious to anyone (with a brain) shopping for a piano. I think what people re looking for is, within a class, what is good or not and why. No one answers that. Thank you.
Amy, I apologize if I came across harshly. Upon re-reading my text, I came across as unintended. Your explanation was good and succinct. With price not being an issue, going from least to most expensive, what baby grands would you recommend?
Amy Zhang : okay, so this is a beginner grand piano. Unfortunately out of the dozens of piano players I know, I do not know any ‘beginners’ that dropped $$$$ on a grand piano. Do you know any beginners that went out an bought a grand piano? If not, then why does Kawai even make it if it is for beginners and hardly any beginners have one? Now I am truly perplexed!
@@kenpeters9807 I know many families buy first or second level grand pianos for their little kids to begin their piano study. I agree with you if you are an absolute beginner, you do not need a grand piano to practice on. The worse the piano, the better you train actually. But I know many beginners buy basic level grand pianos.
Piano may sound better if turned around the other way. put the bass side towards the wall and the treble side facing out. How it's positioned in this video has the treble hitting into the window/wall that might be making the treble too spikey and harsh.
You play very professionally
Awesome Video!!
Belo piano de entrada.
Bom timbre !
k500 and lg20, which one is you suggestion for the very beginner ( 5 years old )
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hope i get one too
Hi Ray/Amy! I am considering to get a GL 20 in the next few days. Do you know if your unit is Indonesia assembly or Japan one? Since I'm from Indonesia I'm likely getting the Indonesia one, for economical reason.
Also, I can't help but notice that the tone of the piano is quite unlike Kawai signature melancholy, instead I feel it's quite bright like a Yamaha but a bit more rounded. What do you think of the tone?
We are shopping for a baby grand for our daughter, and have tested GL10, 20, and 30. We also noticed the tone difference between GL10 and GL20, in which GL20 is noticeably brighter. While I prefer GL20, my kid likes the tone of GL10. I think it is very personal choice.
We've confirmed with our local dealer that GL20 is made in Japan, and he showed me the imprint on the piano. But we are in Ontario, Canada. I don't think the prices are different between an Indonesia one and a Japanese one.
and Evelyn S: Your dealer is Wrong, or knows better and intentionally misled you. Look under the hood, the place of manufacture is there. The GL10 and GL 20 are made in Kawai’s Indonesian plant. That plant is nearly a carbon copy of their Hamamatsu Japan plant and their workers are trained in Japan over a couple years. (There is a good video on that.) From what you’ve been told, I’d be cautious of that dealer.
The GL 10 significantly lacks bass and has some significant technicals lacking. BUT … it’s VERY reasonably priced. Nothing else comes close in its price range. And it does have a 10 year transferable warranty if you want to trade up later. The GL 20 is a SIGNIFICANT step up.
You’ll not go wrong with either. Did you play the 10 and 20 with the same piano configurations? Same floor, same opening of the lid? These make a big difference. The steps between a 10, 20 and 30 are significant. The larger gives stronger and truer bass and more volume - which may be confused with richness (or signature melancholy - as you put it). Remember too< Kawai’s are known for their ability to play ppp. I have learned to play more softly and the Kawai does everything they say regarding pianissimo! We settled on the GL30. Significant cost difference but worth it to us. The sound is magnificent instead of Very Nice. The cost is a big jump. But if you can fit a 5’5” in your home AND intend on playing for a long long time, then seriously consider the GL30 of the three. BUT, if your down to a 10 or a 20, unless money is a very major factor, I would definitely get the 20 over the 10. (Unless she’s a little girl and MAY not continue. The GL10 is a grand AND has the feeling of a grand - this is IMPORTANT over an upright - especially if the youngster has talent.)
One last thought: although the Indonesian factory is a carbon copy, and Kawai trains and trains its Indonesian technicians, I am partial to Japan. The technicians their are more like artisans. A little more time and personal attention. Whether its worth the price difference is up to the buyer. Not including the price difference for the step up in size (from GL20 to 30) but the change from Indonesia to Japan is accounting for another 17% (or so - give or take). Also bear in mind the Steinway chose the Kawai plant Japan to build their Boston pianos.
and Evelyn S: Your dealer is Wrong, or knows better and intentionally misled you. Look under the hood, the place of manufacture is there. The GL10 and GL 20 are made in Kawai’s Indonesian plant. That plant is nearly a carbon copy of their Hamamatsu Japan plant and their workers are trained in Japan over a couple years. (There is a good video on that.) From what you’ve been told, I’d be cautious of that dealer.
The GL 10 significantly lacks bass and has some significant technicals lacking. BUT … it’s VERY reasonably priced. Nothing else comes close in its price range. And it does have a 10 year transferable warranty if you want to trade up later. The GL 20 is a SIGNIFICANT step up.
You’ll not go wrong with either. Did you play the 10 and 20 with the same piano configurations? Same floor, same opening of the lid? These make a big difference. The steps between a 10, 20 and 30 are significant. The larger gives stronger and truer bass and more volume - which may be confused with richness (or signature melancholy - as you put it). Remember too< Kawai’s are known for their ability to play ppp. I have learned to play more softly and the Kawai does everything they say regarding pianissimo! We settled on the GL30. Significant cost difference but worth it to us. The sound is magnificent instead of Very Nice. The cost is a big jump. But if you can fit a 5’5” in your home AND intend on playing for a long long time, then seriously consider the GL30 of the three. BUT, if your down to a 10 or a 20, unless money is a very major factor, I would definitely get the 20 over the 10. (Unless she’s a little girl and MAY not continue. The GL10 is a grand AND has the feeling of a grand - this is IMPORTANT over an upright - especially if the youngster has talent.)
One last thought: although the Indonesian factory is a carbon copy, and Kawai trains and trains its Indonesian technicians, I am partial to Japan. The technicians their are more like artisans. A little more time and personal attention. Whether its worth the price difference is up to the buyer. Not including the price difference for the step up in size (from GL20 to 30) but the change from Indonesia to Japan is accounting for another 17% (or so - give or take). Also bear in mind the Steinway chose the Kawai plant Japan to build their Boston pianos.
@@rayyu2263 if the imprint was Hamamatsu, Japan, then it was an older model when they still made it in Japan. (The technicals are still the same as the currently manufactured models. However, beginning a couple - maybe a few - years ago, all the GL 20s are made in Indonesia.
@@kenpeters9807 how much did you pay for your new Kawai GL30? I am at the dealer and was able to negotiate a brand new Kawai GL30 to 17,000 plus delivery . Thank you
QUESTION for you regarding your comment: you mentioned this is a beginner / intermediate piano. I am retired and now have a smaller home have limited space (I cannot accommodate a 5’5”. I have a limited budget and cannot readily afford $30K. So, according to you (and other reviewers ) this is not the right piano for an advanced player. I cannot afford a hundred thousand Mason & Hamlin baby grand.
So, what baby grand is for an advanced player?
All Kawai’s have the same Millennium III action which controls the feel/touch (whether you’re a rank novice or very accomplished pianist . So, I don’t know why this piano would not be right in the home of an accomplished pianist. Meeting the size criteria, what then would you recommend? And why? Thank you.
@@3melv You are 100% right Kevin. When push came to shove (rubber meets the road) we ended up getting the Kawai GL30. At 5’5” it is a world of difference from the 5’2”. We were surprised. And guess what? With a bit of reconfiguration, it fit nicely! Definitely the right choice. The bucks were half again as much but worth every cent! So, you tell each other, this is our Christmas and birthdays present. I’m 100% with you, get the best you can fit and afford. We’re not experts either, but are partial to grand pianos unless you … quite literally … cannot fit it in your room. We did consider the Kawai GX1; same size, another iteration of cost. It is a professional piano with a lot tweeks over the GL30 both technical and cabinetry. The GL30 is nevertheless, still beautiful and - as my wife put it (… and she knows…) “it sounds magnificent”. We determined it is perfect and will meet all our future needs too. We’ve had it now for five months and are most pleased with our decision.
Note too, in a good showroom there are hard floors. If you have carpet, it will be different as to volume and richness. If you have carpet, a step up in size could be warranted. Remember, you can always have a hard surface custom made to fit perfectly under your grand. In our case our room is so perfect for sound that the carpet need not be modified. FYI: I researched the living daylights out of grand pianos. I can’t afford a Steinway, Fazioli or Mason & Hamlin. Used is always an alternative but you first have to find what you want. Then after playing it and being satisfied, you should bring your expert technician with you to thoroughly check it out. Even if you can get away with $50 - $75/hr, with travel, you’re probably looking at least 4-5 hours. So, if you’re looking at used, you MUST bring your technician.
FYI: I also seriously considered the Bostons. They ran $2k - $4k more. We’re retired and have to watch our money - but who doesn’t! There are a lot of nice things about the Boston; sadly, our closest SS dealer was not the best. I couldn’t justify the Boston and the Kawai has such a consistent Millennium III action, a 10 year transferable warranty, needs less tuning, and cost less and sounds, feels and looks great. BTW, the Boston is manufactured in the same Kawai facility in Japan that makes their GL30’s on up. Maybe that says something too, I don’t know.
I also tried the gamut of many grands, including Yamaha. It boiled down to the two Kawai’s (GL 20 and 30) and two Boston’s (GP156 and 163). The Kawai GL30 won.
I don’t think you can go wrong with Kawai, Boston or even Yamaha. Caution, if you go used be very careful, especially with Boston. Boston changed the GP series; the newer ones are very nice, the prior configurations suck.
Thank you Kevin for your comments. Most fortunately We concluded that ourselves. To our other readers, don’t be in a position saying, “I wish I would have purchased (the other one). If you need to, wait and save up the extra money.
@@3melv FYI the newer GL30s seem a bit brighter than the prior ones. Mine was manufactured in Hamamatsu Japan in June 2021. Its a good sound and just a bit brighter. Good for you on the Shiguru goal. Fortunately, 5’7” is really pushing it, so I don’t have to convince my bride to spend another $50k. Moreover, at my level and age, it would not be a wise investment. Again, the GL30 is a very fine instrument and, by comparing to the other pianos in its size range, it is underpriced.m(Shhhhh, don’t tell that to Kawai.)
Another thing, you mentioned about fast passages. The Millennium III action is in ALL the Kawai Grands. It is known for ppp’s and fast passages. The Kawai’s have a heavier action, but you get used to it. My instructor has a 7’ SS and neighbor has an SS M model. The action on the M is very much like the Kawai. The 7’ SS with the ivory keys is most delightful to play. It’s completely reconditioned but the older pianos need tuning more often - still not much in new climate controlled homes but more often than Kawais.
Best to you, Ken P
Just negotiated a brand New GL10 for 10,000 and a GL20 for 11,000. How much did you get yours for? I was originally looking for a new K500 but now I’m interested in a GL20. I’ve been playing for a while and working on Chopin Etudes
If you could buy a new grand piano for 10,000 yen it would be a great deal and you should do it.
Where did you buy yours? I’m looking for same model brand new and it’s $13,295
Where did u buy yours? What currency ?
6 分钟的那个曲子是什么名字啊 谢谢
Frédéric Chopin - 19 Nocturnes no.1
For their size these pianos sound very good. The action definitely will satisfy any professional player. It's all about personal preference. Some pianists may like this piano as a professional player, and some may not. Just find what suits your needs.
QUESTION for you regarding your comment: you mentioned this is a beginner / intermediate piano. I am retired and now have a smaller home have limited space (I cannot accommodate a 5’5”. I have a limited budget and cannot readily afford $30K. So, according to you (and other reviewers ) this is not the right piano for an advanced player. I cannot afford a hundred thousand Mason & Hamlin baby grand.
So, what baby grand is for an advanced player?
All Kawai’s have the same Millennium III action which controls the feel/touch (whether you’re a rank novice or very accomplished pianist . So, I don’t know why this piano would not be right in the home of an accomplished pianist. Meeting the size criteria, what then would you recommend? And why? Thank you.
The lower range of this piano does not produce as rich of a sound as some of the more expensive pianos. It’s a good piano to practice on for any level players but if you play for concerts and competition, this piano will not give you the sound you expect to make in a concert hall or the touch of a concert piano. If you are only comparing grand pianos, this model is a beginner grand piano (not comparing with upright).
Amy Zhang : I don’t know of anyone or anywhere that a piano under 6 foot, and overwhelmingly under 7 foot is used for concerts or that level of entertaining. So, what should one do? Get a 7+ ft grand, move their furniture and blow out the walls of their home? I find it all too common with people not addressing a question in its entirety. At least you did to a significant extent ... the low range. My thoughts are duh, the longer the Bass strings, the more bass. I don’t care if you’re paying $100K for a baby M&H, you’re still (going to be short on bass when compared to a 7, 8, or 9 footer). In my opinion, critics should address the issue which is more often than not, size and a second being price. If on{ listens to the salesmen and critics, everyone would think they should het an 8 ft concert grand (which would overpower the vast majority of homes).
I am not picking on you, you at least said where the deficiency is - although that should be obvious to anyone (with a brain) shopping for a piano. I think what people re looking for is, within a class, what is good or not and why. No one answers that.
Thank you.
Amy, I apologize if
I came across harshly. Upon re-reading my text, I came across as unintended. Your explanation was good and succinct. With price not being an issue, going from least to most expensive, what baby grands would you recommend?
Amy Zhang : okay, so this is a beginner grand piano. Unfortunately out of the dozens of piano players I know, I do not know any ‘beginners’ that dropped $$$$ on a grand piano. Do you know any beginners that went out an bought a grand piano? If not, then why does Kawai even make it if it is for beginners and hardly any beginners have one? Now I am truly perplexed!
@@kenpeters9807 I know many families buy first or second level grand pianos for their little kids to begin their piano study. I agree with you if you are an absolute beginner, you do not need a grand piano to practice on. The worse the piano, the better you train actually. But I know many beginners buy basic level grand pianos.