Why Did NRN’s Call for a 70-hour Week Cause an Explosion of Rage?
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- čas přidán 1. 11. 2023
- Long revered as the ‘simple’ middle-class, super-success story, the Murthys of Infosys are perhaps perplexed at why social media seems to explode at their comments these days. This time around, it was NR Narayana Murthy’s ‘request’ that India’s youth must emulate the Japanese and the Germans (who rebuilt their respective nations after the World War), and work for 70 hours a week to build our nation, which caused an uproar. Watch this week’s video as a Sucheta Dalal takes a closer look.
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I am already working 12 hours in office (mind you no overtime)+ commute + domestic chores, it's way beyond 17 hours a day. I am working for 2.5 people, had they hired right number, I would save 4 hours a day, have better mental health. I am sure I can't continue this once I have a baby, I am out of this market for good 5 years atleast. I hate what they propagating, unemployment is a pressing issue, these companies don't employ enough people while enjoying all the incentives. These cronies can never get enough.
That's the reson techies are leaving this country for good. All theis industrialist are doing boot leaking of the government.
This is why we need strong labour laws. We need more IT worker unions. And make WFH mandatory.
The worst thing about companies like infosys is, they skew the field of engineering education in the country. They create this illusion about limitless jobs being available. Private education entreprenuers set up countless , low quality engineering college. Parents cram their children into them. The worst thing is, the young people already know that working in IT companies requires only superficial coding skills to survive. So, the entire, rather heavy curriculum of CS bachelors degree becomes some bizarre ritual . all these lakhs of graduates spilling out, hardly employable.
I'm glad you picked this topic for discussion. First the govt extracts max tax from the working class & now the corporates want to extract max work. When there is so much unemployment around, why don't they employ two persons working 40hrs each instead of making one person work 70hrs. No wonder the corporate honchos are getting richer. Or he should have specified its for the govt officials. Cause they are the ones getting massive increases and benefits without even putting in 40 hrs of work...per week 😂😂
Why 2 shifts? Why not 3 shifts around the clock. This way more people will be employed.
The only reason she picked this topic is because she has past affiliation with Infosys.
You have nailed the problem about MCA ,GST and IT portals. Mr Murthy should correct these problems,as these softwares are supplied by Infosys. Mr Murthy is either shameless or utterly incompetent.
Mr. Murthy doesn't run Infosys and hasn't run the company for a looong time
@@deepakabraham8831 oh then who kicked out Sikka?
Mr Murthy and family is totally shameless. And their software supplied is totally crap. I believe most psu banks also use Infosys software
In 2012-13, Infy CEO SD Shibulal took home around Rs 1 cr.
Their current CEO makes more than Rs 56 crores per year now, while the starting salary of an fresh engineer there has not even doubled over the same period.
Now I understand why NRN is so pissed off. Earlier it was enough to pay just 1Cr to the CEO and company was doing well. Now the profits are not increasing despite payment 56 Crs to the CEO 😅
2 corrections / disagreements :
1 ) Proving cheap labourforce to US is not IT revolution.
2) Gov. Jobs are attractive because even a Grade 4 employee is getting more salay than an Engineer in private sector and not beacause under table income.
3) Internal Corruption is also common in private sector if not more than government.
Infosys runs a Sweatshop , for long time they used to pay 40 USD per day as allowance in US , and make lots of money.
So true!!
the real issue is not the working hours .
its the very low pay exploited employees where as managers get lakhs/ CEO makes crores.
100% correct
Atleast for Modi's sake you need to work 80 hours a week
@@loka120 did Modi ask u work for 80 hours ?
@@loka120You really need to get off this modi phobia for all your life problems, stop making pappu of yourself
Managers don’t get paid crores
Why NOT more than 70 hrs/week for Govt. employees ? They get the maximum benefits and very FAT Salary and Perks.
Govt employees are scourge on Indian economy .....unproductive bunch
Yes. True. @@amiyasundarray4498
Government employees are struggling currently.
Govt. employees are struggling currently, but it is NOTHING as compared to any workers in Unorganised sector or even private corporate sector.@@ageless1003
They must disband government work force hugely as most of them are corrupt and inefficient
People working in hard in core manufacturing jobs, and in heavy industries (like in post war ww2, japan) were simultaneously making the society very properous, and enjoying the security of living in such a properous society. their living standards were going up in their own lifetimes. that was a golden age, in some sense, that cannot be captured in this IT services, and other low level service economies
If NRN is surprised by the reaction...means he is totally disconnected from the ground realities of the man on the street.
He is sadly half demented😂
Of course he is. He lives in his ivory tower and thinks he has created a legacy that entitles him to preach.
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@@Opensky1974 Typical babu mentality...equating the number of hours spent on the desk with productivity. indian corporate world is full of such scenarios, where your working hours is a function of when your boss leaves 😄
Mr. Murthy just wants us to work double and eat dividends. Quite shameful when they don’t pay enough to their employees. Your view on the gig workers was really good.
Indian corporates already exploit their employees so much. I worked more than 60 hours a week when it wasn’t needed just coz our manager was bad their job. I am much happier working 40-50 having time for exercise, cooking food at home, spend time doing hobbies. All of these are important for well being.
That's why Employees Union is required in IT companies, cause Owners are always on the lookout to exploit employees
@@sphb100keralites are earning more than most of us
@@rohanmondal9970 True, Keralites are earning higher wages through more skilled work outside Kerala, while the UP Bihar labor work in Kerala in unskilled field.
@@sphb100 Companies decision to stay or leave is based on profitability, but to avoid collective bargaining they use scaremongering tactics like you are doing now to demonise unions
@@sphb100Its unfortunate that everything has to swing to the extreme.Thats the tragedy of humanity
That's absolutely right. Because NGOs like NITES cannot call for a strike unlike a recognised labour union. We recently saw the overwhelming success of the strike called by recognised labour unions in US Automobile industry.
NRN wants youth to work 70 hours per week but wants to pay them only for 40 hours, that's 30 hours of free work. That's the problem
Please work at least for sake of modi
@@loka120
You can work 100 hrs. for sake of modi
@@shantabalu yes.. because he puts in long hours for the nation and its virtually impossible for anyone to work like him. people will say.. well he roams in his jumbo jet and has lots of help.. do his job for one day and hear what abuses are hurled at him.. people wont be able to survive half a day.. we lesser beings can handle may 3 issues at a time.. our PM... amazing.. really a yugpurush
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@@shridharpowar8384I agree with what you say but working 70 hrs for Indians or other private companies is not the answer. Yes, work hard at you job but also try to generate wealth outside your primary job and give back to the society. Spend 10 hours a week tutoring poor kids who might not be getting great schooling and that will make a big difference.
Privileged people like Narayan Murthy, Etc are far away from Ground Reality. His wife and he are nothing like the "simple" people they are portrayed to be. The middle-class, honest tax paying citizen of India have been laboring for decades working much more than 70 hours a week. A simple example is the security guard of a CHS in the city. Has to work 12 hours a day, 7 days a week and the day he takes a leave, his pay is deducted. There is a massive divide between the rich and middle class when Top 1% of the country has more wealth than the bottom 50%.
Bro, I don't really agree with Mr.Murthy but the Murthy's came from nothing. Building something like Infosys is not something everyone can do. Maybe he has a different view but don't diss their roots.
@@gtgd_797 In that case, he should not be insensitive. I dare him to give this piece of advice to people in France - for example.
@@milinddesai680is buddhe ko aag lga denge waha par
Infosys pays 2.5 Lakh a year to a fresher who earns the company 50Lalhs from the client.. why does Infosys pocket so much money and why can't it pay half of what it makes to the employee??
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he is a upper caste socilly advanced , historiclly well versed in expoliting people , its nothing new to know that such bad blood gave such inhuman statement , dog tail can't get straight
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He was in legal trouble in USA.....
Young people are dying of Heart Attack in India &
.......the brain-on-a-holiday ..... NM ....... wants 70 hrs work week?
People will become alcoholics & drug addicts......
Let Murthy implement this in his foriegn offices. He was lucky to be riding the tech wave and exit of IBM in late 70s.
Yes No.1 Chu@&##^@
Very true, have him implement his bullshit idea in other offices across the world and see how much more flak he receives from his employees plus the penalties from the respective governments😂
How shameful that workers travel in a bus from Orissa to Kerala, instead of train which exposes Govt. of NOT providing basic railway transport facilities for a below middle class or poor people.
Vande Bharat Bus Service 😢
😂@@JohnSmith-sl6eg
Go to Vizag and catch the train - a rotten example
@@arpana1639 - by the Nehru Gandhi family...right?
precisely -- we pay attention to NRIs, how are these migrant workers any different. Each state they come from must treat them with utmost respect and have a separate ministry for them. They send remittances. Instead during covid they tried to block their entry!
What a rational thinker she is and has been!! Much respect🙂
thank you 🙂
I get out from my house for work every day except Sunday at 9 AM to 8 AM and my salary is just CTC 20000 means I get in hand salary of 16500. The problem is not working hours the problem is Salary is very less the working time is only 8 to 9 hour but our time dies in traveling in train, bus, auto, walking, and most important i leave very very far from office it took my 1 hour to get there, First i have to pick a ricksha and then train + 1.5 km of walking to the office. Your every bit of energy died in this just 11 hours and you have to cook food, wash your clothes, clean your house, and some here and there personal work also, you don't have extra money to buy a bike to commute faster, to live near the office, to afford better cooked food. 😅😅😅
..and you need a wife to look after you.
Well said Ma'am.
You have really put forth all the correct reasons for the rot in our country. Its always the middle class and the poor who suffer while the rich corporate personnel, industrialist, political leaders, all corrupt Govt employees who get rich the cost of the former. People like NR Murthy etc talk abt 70 hrs work culture without realizing that employees have personal life , family responsibilities, long commuting hrs, no domestic aides etc. Employees being humans need sleep, rest and food at decent times on daily basis. Besides nobody body is getting paid for these extra hrs of slavery. While he & other CEO, CFOs, Directors, Chairmen, all the higher level personnel earn in crores , the normal level employees earn peanuts. How about the likes of his kind parting with 30% of their remunerations to the employees for the extra hrs that he is proposing they work....
thank you
A very well thought out opinion madam. You touched upon the huge migration to southern states. I am from Karnataka and I see migrants from northern states every where. The business men and builders here also from north, and they bring in workers from the north. They exploit them with cheap wages. They wre preferred over locals with better skills. Even in IT companies this is the trend, in the name of "hamaari banda", which is a phrase openly used by HR recruiters and senior management. For them south Indians don't count ws Indians. This huge migration coupled with arrogance of migrants (somehow they think they are superior) who refuse to learn and respect the language of the state, and cronyism, is causing a huge demographic change. Parents of children have gone to court against the state's requirement to have Kannada as a mandatory language of study. The Hindi imposition is rampant, both by the union government and the migrants. Kannadigas who are very hospitable and friendly, are feeling they are being colonized by the north Indians. There is growing discomfort. Karnataka gets the least amount of investment from the union government. It has the poorest railway infrastructure among all the states. It has a large amount of GST share arrears from the union government. Please do a video on the issues being faced by the people of the"host" states, and how their ethics, focus on population control have become detrimental to them. The southern states are also going to lose representation percentage in the parliament, and their language and culture are under threat. The disparity of power between the north and the south is going to be equally if not more consequential than the economic disparity among people.
South India will eventually become a separate nation, if this continues.
I am a North Indian and I respect my kannadigas brothers and sisters and love them for their hospitality.
@@nayaknareshNever.
@@ageless1003 dude , you should come and see what these North Indians are doing in Bangalore. They don't respect our language. They have zero culture and morals. And they question our loyalty to India.
@@nayaknaresh first we will make a Baluchistan in Pakistan 😂
Thankyou for adding your voice on a topic that will actually cause a riot one day because of rinsing ineqality and dissapearing jobs.
Very timely!
No riots will ever happen in india because of this. Riots in india happen only because of 1 factor.. Religion. The day people revolt against corruption or unemployment or sky rise prices, india will become the world's strongest country.
...these guys have rtired and want to ggive gyan....infosys guys like MOHANDAS PAI also called for TRADITIONAL INDIAN dressing in workplace .....why diddnt pai do this when HE WAS WORKING in infosys? why not ask INFOSYS TO adopt and adapt this or in any of the OTHER firms he has invested in? ..PAI said he wore TRADITIONAL ttire for his SON's graduation in cambridge /abroad...why didnt his son wear an INDIAN dress...why not ask his son to wear INDIAN clothes to work abroad.....
A treat to listen to you always
You have summed it up better than any other journo
People who are living in high castles are blind to the ground realities
They need to be put in their places
People like NM are irrelevant today
It has become a fashion to brush every evil deed under the carpet of national building (read patriotism)
Unfortunately for them,as you put it,they can not ignore ALL the grievances for ALL the times to come
Need a balanced and non provocative debate on that.(as you just did)
thank you so much
Mr Murthy doesn't know that after WW-II, America guaranteed Japan and Europe, including W. Germany, about its security.
Germany and Japan used this as an opportunity and used it's tax collection to develop their respective countries.
Take Pakistan, it could have done the same, unfortunately, they have misuse the opportunity to play war games with india.
Mr Murthy needs to speak about corruption, it is unlimited in India and this has made citizens fed up with it.
Remember the India Against Corruption campaign
So true. Mr Murthy once famously said that he is a Socialist at heart and Capitalist at mind. Apparently the mind takes over heart when there is personal wealth at stake.
Unknowingly , Shri Narayan Murtiji insulted Indian youths , seniors must be careful before general advises , which may create unwanted turbulence’s in society
I live in the USA, I had come to Chennai to the TCS campus for work, the employees there worked from 9 to 10 pm or more, this is on top of their commute time. What about the food delivery guys, risking their lives on scooters or motorcycles and working almost 12 hours on contract, no benefits included
Adani corruption/looting happening with the help of the highest position (Supreme Leader Modi).
Too many truth bombs in one video. A salute to one of the rarest journalist who cover the most under discussed or even invisible issues plaguing our society. YT audiences are currently binging on Geo-politics. This is wot they need to pay attention to. I always watch ads of this channel my 2cents in supporting such content.
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I completely agree with Mr. Murthy's assessment. However, this 70 hour week must be done in a country which provides a similar high level of wage, benefits and standard of life. Definitely not in India. I spend 2.5 hours in travel whenever I go to my workplace and if Mr. Murthy and rest of these tycoons believe I'm gonna work 12 hours on top of this then no sir this ain't happening. Unless you want to make work completely work from home and revisited the salary being paid.
1) Youth spending more time during office timings on WhatsApp forwards and personal phone calls. 7:30 am to 7:30 pm away from home 5 days a week.
2) Adani .. State government MUST use imported coal... High electricity bills ... Average including Fixed costs = Rs. 10/- per unit
Yes... Work 70 hr for self and not for corporate
Truly said
Brilliant video. Yours is the only opinion I heard that speaks about growing income inequalities, and the unjustness of billionaires demanding we work 70 hours while they get even more billions.
IT union must needed , there are employees in Infosys who works for 12 hr week, plus 3 to 4 hr travel time. Total exploitry systems.
NRN should instead have urged business houses to make moonlighting acceptable so that people, as per their wish, can work for themselves after working for the company.
Fantastic point!
I fully agree with your view.
Middle class is being squeezed by the top and lower rung.
MRP on products are misleading consumers. You have same products of same manufacturer with different MRP meant for different channels.
Government employees are not feeling the pinch as they don't face the problems that private employees do.
People who work 70 plus hours per week would never mention about it. It's their passion that drives them not pat on the back.
In reality Indian IT companies make money simply by exploitation of cheap labour. Madom you have given words to what we felt in our mind
Highly researched , Thank you Madam.
Thank you ma'am for your honesty and patient and yet detailed reports. Hats off to you.
Madam you nailed it absolutely
He has nothing to do with the Nation Building. India is still a developing nation from last 40+ years ever since he founded his company and it will continue for another 40+ years because of owners like him.
1. He is seeing his labourers are getting exorbitant money due to competition in IT sector hence wants all slaves to work harder.
2. His company is charging hourly basis to the clients. More the work, more the revenue and profit for his company.
This needs to reach more people .. short reels on these will definitely get more audience. So very important commentary which is always missing in the mainstream..
This was a video which was absolutely nowadays. As a doctor, I have even seen retired pensioners and active government employees not receiving their salaries and pensions in AP in the past 2 years and many of them have stopped coming. And private sector employees do not have time [even they have money] to get procedures done or rest when they are sick. It has become very irritating when patients place deadlines on healing and recovery on biological processes.
Grass is Surely greener on the other side if we see how Govt. employees are pampered. Right in front of our Flat my neighbour is a central govt. officer and enjoys life as he gets all kinds of govt. leaves , hefty Salary, Perks, always enjoys all his two weekly off's and many a times takes additional leaves in conjuction with Sat, Sun and often go for outings with the whole family as and when they wish, without them bothering to what would happen to his job. Above all he will also get a hefty Pension till his death and after that his next kin too would get atleast half the pension. Wow!! Great and all this at honest hard working tax payer's money.... Its absolutely a very luxurious life compared to any pvt. employee.
Excellent !! Very rational, eye opener
Somebody said, Govt. employees are struggling currently, but it is NOTHING as compared to any workers in Unorganised sector or even private corporate sector.
Brilliant analysis like always!
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Such a precise, crisp summary 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Nailed it.
Excellent as usual 🎉
A very detailed perspective thank you
Suchita mam with youngsters. Hip Hip hurre
The only person who get benefitted are shareholders and CEOs. Why should I sacrifice my family life so that the CEO can send his children to best schools and locations.
Thats why we government employee want OPS not NPS
Well said 🎉
How does one make moorthy realise that the employees are never responsible for the the pain of his chair
Well balanced points. Very good and thoughtful views.
Everything will become crystal clear when you take Narayan Murthy from the pedestal india has put him on and treat him as a sweatshop owner. He is thinking only about his own corporate profit and has given scat attention to the lifestyle, comfort of life and overall happiness of the employees. He cloakes the issue with nationalism saying they have to do it for the good of the nation which is a nascent fascist ideology.
You touched the right nerve. Crystal clear with due respect to NM.
Thank you for your Effort and Time to Research on this Topic and give some insightful details about the True state of the Working Conditions, Difficulties and outright Disparities in the compensation of a wide range of the Workers in our Country/Economy [Salaried Employees/Migrant Workers/Gig Workers etc].
In fact you have really put a Voice to the Struggles of the legally (through legally drafted Top-Management/Business-Owner Favouring Employment Contracts/Appointment Letters) exploited/marginalized Working Masses of our Economy & Country.
Mr. Narayana Murthy's comments are Not Surprising as he has been a Business Owner/Top-Mananagement and Benefactor of the Highly Disparate Compensation Structure. Probably not having much to do now, he is probably angling for a Rajya Sabha Membership sponsored by the BJP or may be a Nomination for the PADMA Awards of the Country just before the General Elections (just in case there is a change in Government). By the way a Smart Strategy given that his Son-in-Law has stolen a March over him by becoming a PM of his adopted Country.
thank you
Corruption is there in private sector also. It is also increasing in this sector.
In fact the scandinavian economies hv proven that less number of hours hv resulted in greater productivity….
Yes all three portals are a huge waste of time for professionals. My Chartered accountant along with his employees, along with ourselves, have spent hours together trying to file IT RETURNS on time. They would go without sleep BUT the portal will not function properly outside of government timings.
Well said ma'am..
As always , insightful.
Very nice episode.
Madam,there is a peculiarity to infosys founder's statements across his entire public career. In short he is very critical and pessimist about others.His perspective is very narrow.India's IT industry is not focussed on infosys which is just one of them.Also remember arbitrage in wages is the driving force of india's IT sector.
Middle class ny foot, look at the way his daughter lives!
Simple, service based companies are not making same profit they were making earlier. Most bill clients on hourly basis. Billing rates are going low so this is how they get their margins back. Make people work longer, cost cutting in every small things, give less increment/ bonus, replace experienced folks with freshers with less salary. All these philanthropic talks about nation building is all bullocks.
Intelligent perspective on shri NK call 70 hrs a week. I appreciate sucheta ji. Good luck
Superb analysis.
Well said.
He should Tell his Son in law to come to India and work 80hrsa week!
Excellent podcast, Ma'am. Incisive analysis...well said
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Very meaningful commentary on the topic
Working 70 hrs for your passion is fine if you want . Not for a sweat shop like infosys
Very well said Ma’am !
Because he talks through his hats.
This isn’t an India issue alone. You can see this globally. Car companies are not making cars any more. Ford is making only its most expensive models. While Ferraris and Lamborghinis of the world are launching newer models every year. Which was never the case before. Alto sales are gone. And like you said Audi sales increased 97%.
But, the best known thing about the indian middle class is skimping on wages to their servants. Expecting domestic helpers to work for a few coins and the leftovers😁! Infosys has the same mindset. Goes for the lowest hanging fruits in the IT market. Their work is repetitive and deadend. I have seen young women living in working womens hostels, 3 to a room, working as entry level workers in infosys and similar India origin IT companies. These workers do not really have a lifelong career option. They will slowly rise to slightly higher positions, earn more but by putting in punishing hours. By the time they buy and apartment,(and hopefully pay it off), it is time for the company to discard them, because their salary has become a burden to pay, for the company. They hardly pick up any good quality skills. It is just a few more 'platforms', or the usual people management and office politics skills. They do not design or develop software. Some code. most do more mundane, repetitive work.
High inequality in salary in India...skewed work life balance..high time inequality is reduced and some parity is bought...rather than counting no of hours
Very Valid points 👍
Very well analysed
The bus journey from Orissa to Kerala which is a very long journey considering travelling by ordinary bus in which workers are forced to travel in itself is very shameful as there are NO ordinary trains for poor people. This situation exposes the govt. that it does NOT at all care for ordinary citizens of the country, who too pay heavy taxes whenever they buy any goods or services in the form of GST which is enforced even on basic essentials like Milk, Aata etc.. Mr. N.M. is just adding insult to injury and rubbing salt on the wounds to ordinary citizens. I wish he never contests any elections.
With the kind of work a low vision company like infosys takes up, even if workers work 20 hrs everyday, it is not going to work any miracles for the country's economy. Japan and Germany had giants at the top, who aimed at cutting edge, frontline technology and innovation. The workers lent them the muscle power
Thank god, I do not use Ola, Zomato, Swiggy
Well studied. Ground report
It shouldn't be about how many hours of effort is put its should be about efficiency of work
Thanks
The problem is with all govt. Web sites. Either they wont open or continue loading unending.
Madam, would be good if you make a video on taxation in India vis a vis other countries. India has no social security cover, no health cover and to top it all -18% GST on health insurance.
18% GST on health insurance is an usury by illiterates in govt (masquerading as intellectuals) on poor people of India. The beneficiaries are govt servants and politicians
...work 70 hour-week, pay 50% direct-indirect tax, get no overtime, get no proper roads, overpriced housing, mass transit, or quality life. These billionaires and politicians who live off the sweat of the working man need a reality check. We need to unionize, if it's even possible. That is the antidote to cartels, interest groups, lobbies.
The problem is that everyone who has a lot of money, thinks that whatever they vomit is pure gold. Murthy has exposed just how hollow and baseless his thought process is.
You have been brilliant all though your life to touch the truth and reality.mam ,pl keep it up ,we have become used to your brilliant analysis
very kind of you
Dirtiest politics is the basic issue for Indian society , which is becoming more dirtiest day by day , seniors must speak up on it
As the country develops the government’s state and central across India has to work harder to meet the demands of the people which is not being done !! 😡
Many of the government websites do not work effectively, wasting valuable time and creating confusion, frustration, and giving opportunity to online thieves. e.g. adhar, e sambardhana, many nic websites.