According to Scotty Kilmer you shouldn't buy any car whatsoever unless it is a 20-30 year old Toyota.
@@hell5457 they are reliable because they arent pushing the boundaries of anything. loose tolerances lead to worse fuel economy and less power than competitors. people buy vws because you are getting a better more responsive chassis that is good enough to be shared with audis. more lively power train with better fuel economy and suspension that is enjoyable to drive spiritedly. in a toyota you just get a boring beige box. it will run with no maintenance but youre still going to be burning oil and getting worse gas mileage like any other platform without maintenance. difference is that vws computers will tell you when its out of spec.
@@rileyhance318 I'd rather drive & own a million mile lexus ls400/430 any day over all vw (both modern & old e.g. original beetle, type 3 notchbacks, tdi bora, 2.5l, m3 - 6 jettas 2l, etc). Japan > u.s. & euro.
@@hell5457 toyota arent immune to shocks, and rubber bushings going bad and other wear items of the sort. you never see toyota owners replace those items because they arent the type of person to notice the difference until they have an accident that could have been avoided.
Its gotta be a car before 1990 and japan brand otherwise its shitbox according to him😳
When Scotty was a young mechanic, steam engines were the sh!t
"Now guys, I've been working on cars for 140 years, and let me tell you. These new gasoline engines are pieces of crap. They use fuel lines that are pressurized with expensive pumps in the tank that need filters or they'll get clogged up with debris, they have these complex valve trains that get gummed up with carbon, and many of them even have three or four valves in each cylinder. And don't get me started on their complicated exhaust systems, when a smokestack is all you need! I had a customer in here a couple weeks ago with a gas engine and he told me, 'Scotty, I shoulda listened to you. I should have stuck with a steam engine.' He ran out of gasoline and the stuff was 5 bucks a gallon! So listen to me and stick with steam or it can really cost ya. Case. Closed"
This guy kills me. “Variable valve timing, fuel injection, turbo charger, complex technology”. Really? Every new car has this. Good luck finding a carbureted 2022 Toyota Scotty.
Yes, every new car has these, but the VW engine shown in this video is notorious for having these systems fail (VVT failures, timing chain issues, excessive oil consumption etc). But they managed to fix all these issues in the Gen 3 engine which was released around 2014 IIRC
"Worst resale value of any car"......
*My 2012 chevy cruze enters the chat*
The GTI has great resale value. At least it does in Europe
@@hamyog6802 The value of German cars in the US drop like a rock within a couple years. I'm not even hating on them, German cars are actually my favorite I love my Audi but I can't just ignore how quickly they lose value. Its one of the major drawbacks of owning one.
@@cole4987That doesn’t apply as much to the GTI and VWs in general; they tend to hold their value a lot more.
We at the Volkswagen headquarters would like to have a word with you Mr. Kilmer.
Maybe they would listen to some sense. Probably not to arrogant in building their over complex, unreliable German JUNK...
@@haunterbuythem137
You don’t get paid by Scotty, right?
Here’s the door ->🚪
Scotty stays telling me to stay away from all the cars im about to purchase so now im on the bus. Thanks Scotty 😂
Old mechanics are always scared of newer technology. These Golf's aren't hard to work on and they're usually the common faults which aren't overly expensive to fix, unless you don't know what you're doing, like Scotty.
Yep. Modern vws are not hard to work on after you understand them. Parts don’t cost more than anything else.
@@FZERO20 do you know how many new cars break down faster than the old ones?
I disagree. VW has been so reliable that I haven’t had the need to take it in for repairs ever. The car in the video is modified. Catch can isn’t standard and also has a heat wrapped cold air intake, wouldn’t doubt that it has a big turbo, ecu tune, and upgraded intercooler as well.
Yeah not a good example Scotty. My uncles mk5 gti has over 300,000km on it and has had a waterpump fail, regular carbon cleans, that's it... Mk7 onwards don't use direct injection anywhere but the states. Mk5s and 6s have carbon issues and timing chain guide issues. mk7 onwards has a timing chain stretch issue depending on the car and every vw has waterpump failures. Cheaper to service than a Honda I've owned. If you're aware of what can go wrong you can precorrect or buy the car with warranty and get the waterpump done for free and get the revised waterpump installed like I have with my mk6 and mk7 golf. Also, these cars are not particularly hard to work on yourself imo, some great how to channels out there. Resale is not as bad as you're letting on. My 2015 golf R is still worth 35k+ AUD with 130km on the clock. Yes they are "complicated" but a $1000 tune and doing 0-100km in sub 4 seconds is pretty ridiculous in a hatchback.
Volkswagen is like BMW, not cheap to fix and are moderately reliable . Nothing compared to Honda or Toyota.
@@Snelliscool Hmm yeah, Honda here endless money pit, parts are so hard to find in both new and old also atoyota. Experiecne
@@Snelliscool I’ve owned 2 Acuras that were far less reliable than my 2 VW’s and Audi. I put a combined 650k miles on them, with no major issues.
Scotty is the walking embodiment if “they dont make em like they use to.”
He thinks an oil catch can is more complicated and more expensive than a carburetor 🤣
oh nooo i gotta jack my car for the occasional oil change noooo this is so complicated ;(((
My 99 mk4 tdi Jetta had 343000 miles. Original 5 speed and original motor. Gets 54 mpg
I have a mk 4 jetta Wagen made in Germany it has 143400miles burns a little oil with the 2.0 four-cylinder n/a engine.
Just bought a '03 Jetta wgn with 270k ... Runs strong ! 40 mpg on the big road. Five speed, pwr. everything and cruise. $75
I got my 99 tdi for free, had 247000 on it and needed an alternator. I use the car for work so it’s made me a lot of money in mileage expense checks over the past 7 years.
@@scha0786 my dream is a vw passat wagon. In Southeast Asia, VW is getting more popular than Toyota. If you replied to me. Loads of VW Santanas with decent mileage
This guy knows nothing I own the same car it's very reliable lol I have 197k miles
Dude thinks the car came OE with an oil catch can
Yeah thats hilarious lol Scotty was wilding on this review. It even has a cold air intake mod
This video is exactly why everyone should take what Scotty says with a grain of salt... or two.
or just listen to him when hes talking about specific things to look out for when buying cars. that seems to be the only time he has objective facts to give about buying cars. otherwise his opinions on whats a good and bad car arent really that interesting
in the EU, Expensive to fix, Extremely HIGH resale value!
At Brazil it's the same thing, expensive to fix and very high resale value.
Imagine letting Scotty touch your German "complex" automobile 😂😂😂😂
yeah no hes a mechanic id never take my mercedes to, he would probably die of a heartattack if he took one look at where my intake manifold actuators are located
I remember a different Scotty once saying, "The more complicated it is, the easier it is to gum up the plumbing."
“The more you overtake the plumbing; the easier it is to stop up the drain..” CMDR Montgomery Scott. Star Trek: The Search For Spock.. Kirk Stole the old Enterprise and Scotty had crippled the USS Excelsior. epic scene!
I have had 3 VW Golf and 1 Tiguan. All diesels. All I had to fix was an alternator. The Tiguan was the best car I have ever had.
Me watching this while sitting in my Golf 👁👃👁
JUST A VW BASHER! LIKE YOYOTA'S OR HONDOLA'S DONT BREAK DOWN?? GET A GRIP. 🙄😂
All cars break, all cars fall apart. Idc how you make them, idc how many miles they have. There is always a possibility of an expensive repair
My son can attest to that even as he works on Rolls Royce. They break too.
@@PandaFG do you see any of the cars on the road from when you were born? Yea like 5 percent of all cars are on the road from Y2K
the ending was sold love it. Scotty Kilmer the movie.
VW never had oil catch cans on a stock engine.
Old farts Call valve vent recirc for a catchcan. Scotty is a real old fart who is mostly wrong, but really good at What he knows.
@@stephenarling1667 For track use all the time. maybe. Never had the "oil surge" problem when I was tracking my golf 7.5 R
Ive never had any issues with mine other than occasionally having to change coil packs just maintain them and do oil changes every 4k miles and you never will have problems vw are still reliable asf
I made that mistake 8 years ago. Never again.
Bought mine 16 years ago. Still driving it daily. Never did much except basic maintenance
Scotty's living in the 80s or something. I've recently owned 2 VW cars, regular jetta s & a GLI and both have been absolutely reliable. not a single thing wrong with them and a heck of a lot more fun to drive than toyotas
Disagree. Volkswagens hold there value extremely well, modified or not..
Vw is good just need to take care of it. Also my cars worth 16 grand I got it for 9 so when I sell I’ll be damn near doubling my cash
After inflation, and the cost of inheriting a car…i don‘t know…
But i know where you coming from ;) so, not bad
You forgot to mention that it’s an absolute blast to drive in return for those bad things you said. I’m a Volkswagen nut and these cars have their quirks but not that bad.
The guy stuck in the past
This might be the case in the US but in Europe every second car on the street is either a VW or another VAG brand, making repairs not that expensive and parts extremely available, when they run they're amazing cars, handle and perform beautifully
yes Commander Hange, this only goes for US (Marley) but it is 100% truth over here
@@TeeroyHammermill In reliability definitely, in driving comfort? Hell nah, I love Toyota as well though but it's true that VW is usually just more comfortable n fun to drive
@@TeeroyHammermillyou mean the people who built vans and small trucks that were regularly written off the road due to rust eating through the steel around the top of the windscreen, side windows & roof gutters, compromising the structural pillars. Oh, and it happened because they didn't build the anti-corrosion dip pool deep enough to submerge the vehicles beyond the top of the windscreen. They also designed later model HiAce vans with the air cleaner box and intake about 10 - 12 inches off the ground. Makes for a very efficient straw when driving through a decent puddle or light flooding. Turns out engines can't turn when they experience a cylinder that's suddenly full of water.
The old ones are huge piles of crap too they are just way cooler.
Right he said beetles lol those ugly things there’s one that hit a million miles from back in the day and it needed like 5 engines to do it ! And that’s a old VW imagine a new one or Audi 😂 at least Benz and bmw did that back in the day on the same engine and transmission I’ll say it vw is the dodge of Germany and has never been reliable since it started
Its a miracle hippies kept them running!
My dad had an old '66 Super Beetle. I never saw it but he said it was a breeze to work on
Where do people get that vws suck? Lmao. My first car was a 98 jetta tdi. Car rocked and still drives to this day with 400k. Original engine, clutch, alternator, everything
I remember back when I was young Scotty made good content not just shitting on everything he doesn't like for personal reasons.
I'd have to disagree with Scotty on this one. Some VW models, yes, but most models, no.
you should end your shorts with case closed all the time i loved how you said that in the end
So I presume the same goes with an Audi considering they are affiliated?
@@jeffjohnon4223 false my Audi uses a VW engine same cost better interior win win
My sister had a volkswagon.....had to be the worst car on the planet
But that goes for all modern cars then ! Stop living in the past !
I dunno. I have a 2007 mkv gti and it's got around 275k miles on it now and the only issue I've had is a cam follower. Ohh and a waste gate issue that i fixed with a new aftermarket turbo.
glad i got a 92 corrado vr6. all the smook stuff taken out. runs like a dream.
I had a 92 g60. Always wished it was the vr6 but still a fun car. Wish i never sold it
My god this guy must be a terrible mechanic is he can’t work on a 2.0T motor
This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard, I’m surprised he just doesn’t start saying that you should start walking since you don’t leak oil
He said they don’t resale that much yet gti mk2 price is skyrocket 😪
Both of my sisters have late model VW Beetles. A 2009 and 2013. Luckily, neither have turbos so that's at least 1 less expensive part
So how come I see all ages of Volkswagens everywhere and they're all running just fine. I talk to people who own them and any problem
they run into is no different than the typical stuff that we all have with all our cars- so why so critical- if you keep the maintenance up doesn't that make a difference with any of our cars?
Vw engines are realible I don’t why people hate vw so much
They are enginneering marvels
These engines can easily last 5 lkh mile
But the problem is people mainatain them
Just like another car.
Alle these brand are the same comany. And more.
Audi
Bentley
Bugatti
Cupra
Ducati
Jetta
Lamborghini
Porsche
SEAT
Škoda
Grumpy old man doesn't understand that cars aren't always about reliability and value. Some people just want to have fun on a beautiful, tuned GLI.
More complex means more parts to break down.
I would put my 2003 alh tdi golf against any Toyota for efficiency and reliability
People complain about VW reliability, but have never had the carbon cleaned from their valves since they owned the car. Get it done about every 30k
VW Golf. Best car I've brought. Better value than a BMW or Merc. Very reliable if you service when required.
I can attest to that, I had golf7 gte, it was reliable and didn't burn any oil and was really sporty, but totaled it:(( and now i have Golf 8 GTE
Have a friend who’s father is a mechanic at a Volkswagen dealership - his old man routinely tells people, “Never own a Volkswagen unless it is still under the factory warranty!”
Why does he say that. What does he see, any particular car. I got a 2015 GTI and its starting to have issues, but its been good so far just expensive when things do need replacement.
Mainly the high cost of parts and repairs relative to other makes in the same price range. His view was that VW’s are mainstream cars with “vanity marque” repair costs.
@@ddellwo Yeah the clutch was like twice the cost , almost everything is nearly twice. But at the same time, I feel its put together a lot better
Scotty would stroke out learning that some of us are using an extractor from the top without getting under the car every 3000 miles, being a mechanic for 67 years.
I love my Volkswagen. Who cares about complex technology?
I have a gti 2013 runs perfect.... I have a ecu and tcu tune very solid
Tick tock dude... tick tock.
Its literally only a matter of time before that goes bang.
I work in the motor trade as standard they develop niggles. But every single person thats done some tune or remap ends up with a broken VW, Audi, BMW... etc
I had an APR tune on an ‘06 Passat 2.0t and it was perfect for over 100k miles…and that was the first year of the new 2.0t.
@@garethbattersby That depends on many factors. One would be if you don't know sh*t about it and start experimenting with mapping configurations. Specifically young teens that buy first Chip they see on the Internet. 😂
For a person who only wants a daily driver and doesn’t care about fun to drive or performance… yes I agree with you. But for many people cars aren’t only a source of transportation it’s a hobby and a stress reliever. My advice is if you like golf GTIs and you can ditch 6dollars a day for Starbucks and maintain the GTI go for it.
vvt, a turbo charger "modern technology" average american guy, would rather take a 5l that puts out just 135bhp lol
My 2013 VW Beetle TDI has been an excellent car.
Lol when the old heads are afraid of doing a carbon cleaning.
I have a 2015 TDI Passat with 200,000 mi on it and the only thing I've ever done is change the oil, rotors, pad etc. I would drive it across country right now without a second thought if need be. I have a 2018 Passat r line tsi with 85,000 mi on it and the only thing I've done is change the oil and rotors/pads. It literally runs and sounds like it's brand new. It had a thousand miles on it when I bought it. I've had zero problems with new Passats. The rotors weren't any more expensive than any other car. Alignments in oil changes are the same as any car that takes full synthetic. I don't know maybe I just got lucky
The FUDD of mechanics
Spin the VW logo real fast and see a Swastika.
I had a 2002 turbo s as my first car. Never had an issue and it was so fun that my dad bought it when I got a bigger car
Glad I didnt listen to any these typical VW is junk advice. Bought 2017 GTI new. 7 years later went everywhere, tracked it, towed 1500lb trailer on 1k mile road trip. Tuned, faster than cla45, RC350, 250cc bikes, 392 challenger. Only did factory recommended service, 27mpg average. 7 years later only sepreciated 7k best purchase ever.
Any model VW in the states is a bad idea, old or new. I had a 99 Jetta… Let me tell you, when the issues I thought were minor came around, I had to call around everywhere. Nobody would work on my vehicle, turns out I needed a European vehicles specialist to take a look, not a normal mechanic, and they charged an arm and a leg for the most minor things. Stay away.
*Sees thumbnail*
*Sees VW emblem*
Me: Yes, I agree 👍💯
I have a Seat which is basically VW and it's very reliable, I do my own servicing, it is low cost to repair and so far has done nearly 130,000 miles. You don't buy a VW to re-sell, you buy it to kill it at 300,000+ miles. They aren't bad cars here in the UK.
Scotty “If it’s not a Toyota, it’s nothing” Kilmer
Your great Scotty never change!!
As a mechanic, we love these, why? Because that’s how we make a living and it’s cool tech. Wouldn’t own one but we gotta love them to some degree
Thing's a 2008 and he considers it a modern late model?
It is relatively modern when he compares it to carbureted, air cooled models from the 60's. It may not be the newest but it is a late model
I fully disagree. I owned vw Passat. Was the best and most reliable car I ever owned. Bought it back with 48k miles sold it with 140k miles. I only had to replace cv joints in that car.
He’s standing over a MK5 GTI/GLI, which has the most reliable motor you’re getting pre-2012 out of a golf/jetta. The first generation of Volkswagen TSI motors had their share of issues simply because they were first, but the MK5’s had the Volkswagen TFSI which had a timing belt instead of a chain, meaning easier services, and it was such a powerhouse APR took it on as their official race cars up until the MK6 came out and became feasible to race. That 2.0 turbo can run for at least 250k miles before you run into any serious trouble should you maintain it at all the proper intervals. If you don’t though, it can indeed be a cruel cruel mistress but that’s more a German engineering thing than a reliability thing.
He doesn't know how to fix em.
Don't buy them. More for me!!!
SCOTTy as a mechanic has emphasis reliability, durable, cheap and ease to repair. Buyers who value all of this should listen to scotty. If those has money to burn or place lifestyle, status, driving experience, performance above everything else. by all means to buy German cars.
Mine actually sucked so bad so many issues but I know people who’ve been fine also. Oil was leaking into the turbo, transmission was slipping after paying for a repair a year before, and a lot of minor things on top of that
If your looking at one of their performance variants then yes all of what he said is true. But if you stay in their normal performance variants or diesel then vw are good cars.
This is what it sounds like when someone is more biased than honest
Translation: Don't buy a modern car, things were better in my time, all this new technology that I don't understand and don't know how to fix is garbage.
I bought my Jetta TDI 5 years ago and I've literally had 0 problems with it! Honestly your weird hate fetish against German cars kinda undermines the rest of your videos.
I have never seen that guy doing anything else than critizising... what the point !? Old dude is trashtalking every car brand on earth dont buy anything if you listen to him
Those things are electrical nightmares!!!
What car is simple these days?
this is the worst engine vw ever made, the later 2012+ models are flawless and i believe value reliable, the 1.8t before this engine was also incredibly reliable
They actually aren’t that bad to work on. Regular maintenance and not being an abusive driver goes a long way with any car fella. I would pick that 08’ over any 2023 car with the modern ecu and digital dashes. No thanks.
You say that cause you are a lazy mechanic, Gti has a high resale value, he just to old school
VW, MERCEDES -BENZ, AUDI, BMW, they are German headache!
You buy German car. You complicated your life more.
Just wait until he hears about Diesel Particulate systems. 😂
Vw's are easy to work on if you're not a decrepit old skeleton. Also that catch can is aftermarket. Lmao
Low resale value, compared to what? When was the last time this guy sold a VW?
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Would you consider a 1991 Jetta gl with 100k miles reliable especially for the year?