i drive my XV along those same roads as in your vid, love the all wheel drive, feels very safe in the rain. Also love the adaptive cruise control for long trips. I love riding my motorbike on that steep road u drove down in the vid, get some great speed up, feel much less safe doing that than in my XV but very fun :)
It's definitely a very different drive from 2WD cars, plus the build is very very solid. Nothing is rattly, and even in a small scrape and a very minor collision I had recently, there's virtually no damage compared to what would have happened to a tin can car.
@@richardjohnson7641My 2017 2.5L premium was flawless for 7 years. A truly excellent wagon but the sub-par performance from the 2.5L was disappointing, as was the cheap sound system and the useless integrated roof rails/bars (there was nowhere to tie a rope to and they can’t take much weight). I always wished I’d bought the 3.6L for $5K more despite the higher fuel use. I wanted the completely new Forester in XT form but could be bothered waiting to see if was going to become available in Australia in 2025.
Thank you for the review. You mentioned about interests in a different car? Which one is it? Also what's your thoughts on the KIA Sportage 2L diesel? Cheers.
I agree, they are "not worse" than e.g. the King of them all - Toyota. Problem of Subaru is that it has only one "type" of vehicle body, no proper tall 4x4 which pigeon-holes them a bit.
@@ValueCarsAU yes the dealers in aus are terrible slow at theses things. You basically have to tell them it's available and you would like it. UK and states had it last year so dealers here only got it few months back.
Great review Dimitri. I respect your opinion (comparison) but maybe don't agree with it. Having said that my sister is looking to buy an outback. I have forwarded this to her. :-)
I bought the new shape mid spec sport when it came out in 2021 and was happy to get rid of it. Thirsty. Slow. Hated the infotainment,as a Android user it wouldn't go full screen.The indicators would piss me off also.
It's not "all great", but I'm used to it now and it's VERY VERY solid - watch my latest video about insurance where I talk about a road incident I had in this car. It's quite amazing, honestly.
I was really disappointed with my last two Outbacks. My 2010 was the shittest car I have ever had, the build quality was low, it twisted so much on uneven surfaces I couldn't open the boot, and the paint and headlights deteriorated in the sun which I have never had happen before on a car. Fortunately the 2010 model was cheap to buy so I guess there was that. The 2021 Model I was excited for and the quality was improved, but I had issues with the stop start stalling, dealer couldn't figure it out, the 2.5 was nice but oh so slow, and the infotainment was a mess with constant crashing and virtually unusable. Worst of all it was $50k (Touring) and I almost couldn't give it away, worst resale I have ever experienced. Sadly its my last Subaru after owning many.
Very strange and rather unique feedback regarding a Subaru because you're literally the only one who seems to have a legitimate complaint among hundreds of reviews that I went through before buying mine. Sure, it's not perfect - as my video highlights - but nothing like what you've described. Maybe it's the level of expectations? What are you comparing your Subarus to? And if you had the "shittiest car you've ever had" - what made you buy another one of those? 🤷♀️🤣
I've had a few subarus, wrx and sti - all had poor fuel consumption - yet the golf GTi's i have had, a performance car - were really fuel efficient...so why can't subaru build an economical performance engine like VW ? and its not the engine layout - my bmw flat twins are powerful yet still very economical...
i drive my XV along those same roads as in your vid, love the all wheel drive, feels very safe in the rain. Also love the adaptive cruise control for long trips. I love riding my motorbike on that steep road u drove down in the vid, get some great speed up, feel much less safe doing that than in my XV but very fun :)
It's definitely a very different drive from 2WD cars, plus the build is very very solid. Nothing is rattly, and even in a small scrape and a very minor collision I had recently, there's virtually no damage compared to what would have happened to a tin can car.
Love my outback. Best car I've ever owned. Mine is a 2019 model, however.
It's very solid and overall I love it too
Im looking at a 2019 - any problems?
@@richardjohnson7641My 2017 2.5L premium was flawless for 7 years. A truly excellent wagon but the sub-par performance from the 2.5L was disappointing, as was the cheap sound system and the useless integrated roof rails/bars (there was nowhere to tie a rope to and they can’t take much weight). I always wished I’d bought the 3.6L for $5K more despite the higher fuel use.
I wanted the completely new Forester in XT form but could be bothered waiting to see if was going to become available in Australia in 2025.
Thank you for the review. You mentioned about interests in a different car? Which one is it? Also what's your thoughts on the KIA Sportage 2L diesel? Cheers.
Love the look of Sportage but find it a bit "poverty" in the base model (without the fancy curved dash and instruments).
Subaru's are under rated. I have an outback, liberty and two foresters. Magnificent experience with all of them.
I agree, they are "not worse" than e.g. the King of them all - Toyota. Problem of Subaru is that it has only one "type" of vehicle body, no proper tall 4x4 which pigeon-holes them a bit.
@@ValueCarsAU Yes, imagine if Subaru had built a Pajero style 4x4 - unibody, with diff locks etc..and serious towing capacity.
I love my 2024 XT sports. It's automatic and done just over 7K, and I average 8.7 ltr, and that's just doing city driving
I regret not getting an XT. Not even sure why - it's like one wasn't offered to me, just this one 2.5L not turbo...
Have you got the infotainment update was great to add shortcuts for s/s and auto hold. Also increases the size of the fan controls.
Nope, is one available in Australia? Maybe during the next service.
@@ValueCarsAU yes the dealers in aus are terrible slow at theses things. You basically have to tell them it's available and you would like it. UK and states had it last year so dealers here only got it few months back.
Great review Dimitri. I respect your opinion (comparison) but maybe don't agree with it. Having said that my sister is looking to buy an outback. I have forwarded this to her. :-)
Do you own a Subaru? Which parts do you disagree with (if you do own one)?
I bought the new shape mid spec sport when it came out in 2021 and was happy to get rid of it. Thirsty. Slow. Hated the infotainment,as a Android user it wouldn't go full screen.The indicators would piss me off also.
It's not "all great", but I'm used to it now and it's VERY VERY solid - watch my latest video about insurance where I talk about a road incident I had in this car. It's quite amazing, honestly.
I must of missed it but is diesel or petrol
It's petrol
I was really disappointed with my last two Outbacks. My 2010 was the shittest car I have ever had, the build quality was low, it twisted so much on uneven surfaces I couldn't open the boot, and the paint and headlights deteriorated in the sun which I have never had happen before on a car. Fortunately the 2010 model was cheap to buy so I guess there was that. The 2021 Model I was excited for and the quality was improved, but I had issues with the stop start stalling, dealer couldn't figure it out, the 2.5 was nice but oh so slow, and the infotainment was a mess with constant crashing and virtually unusable. Worst of all it was $50k (Touring) and I almost couldn't give it away, worst resale I have ever experienced. Sadly its my last Subaru after owning many.
Very strange and rather unique feedback regarding a Subaru because you're literally the only one who seems to have a legitimate complaint among hundreds of reviews that I went through before buying mine. Sure, it's not perfect - as my video highlights - but nothing like what you've described. Maybe it's the level of expectations? What are you comparing your Subarus to? And if you had the "shittiest car you've ever had" - what made you buy another one of those? 🤷♀️🤣
I've had a few subarus, wrx and sti - all had poor fuel consumption - yet the golf GTi's i have had, a performance car - were really fuel efficient...so why can't subaru build an economical performance engine like VW ? and its not the engine layout - my bmw flat twins are powerful yet still very economical...
I'm not sure mate, and thought it all has something to do with CVT + AWD?