Cane Density Effect on Oboe Reeds: Is Dense Cane OVERRATED?
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- Hello oboists and oboe fans! In this week's video I'm trying some oboe reeds that I made using cane of varying densities. Oboe-shop.de supplies cane tested on the Rieger Density Tester and I wanted to learn the difference between the various densities and how it affected tone, response/resistance, and the reed opening.
The four kinds of cane I compared are:
Oboe-shop house cane, shaped and gouged by www.oboe-shop.de/
Gouge thickness: .58-.59mm
Diameter: 10.25mm
Centre/Side Ratio: 10/100 US
Density: Very high, high, medium, and low
I tied the reeds at 72mm total length on 47mm Traditional Chiarugi Staples in Brass. (also available at oboe-shop!)
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What an amazing test! It was very easy to hear all of the variables happening as you played, since you played without moving all over the place (the microphone didn't become a factor there).
The sound was YOU, playing and showing off your abilities and making it a very level playing field.
I thought that the second medium density reed was the best, as it showed off your vibrato levels, the "feel" of the notes being played and highlighted your musicality to its best.
Thank you for sharing!
Thanks so much for watching!! I also liked the medium ones the most!
The first thought i had when i saw your name an "9 days ago" was "HE IS BACK"
welcome back!! looking forward to new videos
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Thank you for sharing - great overview & right on with your analysis. Excellent playing too.
Excellent review of this amazing topic. I'd love to hear your experience with different brands of cane and hardness. 10 Thumbs up!
Curious to hear if density affects the lifespan of your reeds. Keep us posted!
I'll let you know!!
@@oboeari sir it's been 5 months
@@ultimawerewolfbluephoenix9670 Sorry for the late reply! I think the answer to this is yes but with a caveat. I did find that the low density reeds died the soonest, but I didn't notice a big difference in lifespan between the medium-very hard densities.
Fantastic topic, great to hear your thoughts and the sound from each grade of density
i’m so glad you are back!!!!!! do you recommend any brand of oboe (i am a 2nd year player) and i use my schools one now. i have the yamaha yob 441 and i was looking at getting a nicer one
The 441 is a great intermediate instrument! If you're looking to upgrade I would say take a look at professional models like the Howarth XL or LXV, or a Yamaha 831 or 841, or Marigaux 2001A or 901A, or a Loree Royal? There's so many amazing oboes out there to try!
Red. Your conclusion have experienced the same with different hardness. Harder cane takes longer to turn in to a good reed
Eh hem ... We make reeds with whatever cane we have and finish it according to the acoustics of the venue. The live wild sound in your room will be deceptive as to what will finally be the sound you need to project in a live performance. Playing everything at a Forte? That's easy enough. Isn't it? We can all blow our brains out.
The best reeds, no matter what the cane density is, will be made slowly and according to the music requirements. I'll leave the rest of my opinions ... to myself. My opinion is based on 50 years of making reeds. I just finished 2 performances of Peter And The Wolf with The Paradise Symphony Orchestra and Northern California Ballet, and was asked why I'm not playing in the North State Symphony...that was nice to hear.
Spoken to your Polish friend Natalia see what she thinks. Be interesting.
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Hi!
You know what, I heard the same myth about heavy gauge guitar strings. I think it's firmly debunked now, but heavy strings are much harder to play and hardly any difference in tone.
I can not hear any difference between the reeds you are playing besides that they sound a bit too strong or too light. I can experience you, your sound and your attitude and playing style stronger than the quality of the cane. I think the recording is good but not good enough to judge such a thing. The hardness of the cane and the inner tension and flexibility, in my opinion, is much more important, as well as maybe also the brand...to me density it is a myth, but of course there are so many parameters like personal style and taste, the room in which you perform, climate, season, meters about sea level, weather, instrument and so on. But it is intersting and I appreciate your testing and video, well done!
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"is dense cane overated?" That's how Tucker Carlson presents a topic on Fox Spews. Is the diameter overated? Is the metal overated? Is the cork overated? Is the nylon overated? Is saliva overated? :-) "I'm a professional Oboist."
(Can you tell I'm an oboist?)