X-Men vs Fantastic Four - Fall of X
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For any fairy tail fans, Rasputin IV is basically Erza Scarlet without the character development
SHE WiNS BECAUSE SHE'S ERZA!
You would think with this great cover art, it would focus on Cyclops and his ongoing torture in Orchis.
These are the kind of cartoons i wish we would see now
I'm extremely worried by how this is gonna end I'm really hoping we dont just get a whole return to the status quo with Xavier back in his chair, mutants are enemies again to each other, I love Krakoa and what it meant for mutants I would hate to see it ALL gone and done with, still I'm intrigued as balls by the stories coming out
As someone who loved the san francisco/utopia era of the X-men because of the progress the mutants were making to become accepted, I can't help but fear that the status quo is right around the corner
Probably gonna do whatever the movie ends up doing
Whoa! So glad the other team members put Rasputin check about her treatment to FF4 and so glad Reed didn’t let his resentment to Xavier’s actions affect how he saw the other mutants and X-men
How many times is the X-Men going to be forced to fight non-villains before Marvel ends this stupid trend?
Rasputin shouldn’t have the power of telekinesis. Just quentin quires telepathic abilities. Remember in sins of sinister when she was stranded in space, he specifically said he didn’t give her the power of flight.
Rasputin IV and Xavier mind theft makes a good case for Orchis
Ben is really getting disrespected by Marvel again 😓😞
Not just Ben. Juggernaut, Cyclops and even Sinister is being played. They just love their op female characters.
No kidding right
She's steal he's rock he doesn't stand a chance
@@herzfeldjishe has multiple mutants powers and came from a future that she was literally made to kill and fight. It’s not a woman thing. Cyclops was screwed awhile ago. The enemy knew how dangerous he is and took precautions to remove him. That should show how much Marvel respects him.
@@stormls200 Honestly, I know you think you said something different, but you just explained what he said; Marvel wrote in a way to screw Cyclops and pushed an insanely OP female.
One does not simply walk through Susan Storms barrier like its nothing. Just wish Rasputin had a more interesting personality haha.
Great job Benny !! More more !!!
I'm looking forward to the full fall of x video! More multiple hour long stories!
Nice!
Oh hey Juggernaut’s alive!
Today my birthday and the first video I watch is this and I really enjoyed your xmen videos
Marvel Comics have gave you a BatCake for your birthday...
In canon Sue bubble cannot be phase pass by shadowcat power. They can't even keep their story straight wow.
I feel like this intro sentence applies to 99% of X-Men stories.
Yup
By one group or another, sometimes all decimate the X-man lol
Yo I'm so happy xmen are still alive can't wait to see what comes next
Remember when the Thing was strong to fight the Hulk?
How Reed gonna say he figured it out when Kamala told him?
Reed is one of the smartest humans on Earth. So i'm pretty sure he had a suspicion. I mean his son Franklin is a former mutant.
@@Va1kariusI thought Franklin was an eternal
@@Va1karius he probably did have a suspicion but you can't figure something out when someone told you the solution
@@ronniebell2470 True but it's also up to the writer/artist. I'm pretty sure some of the comic variants are trying to match the live action.
Not to mention, it's part of the plot. So maybe showing off Ms Marvel's intelliect. But there is a chance Reed also already knew and wanted her to say it.
I love comics
FINALLY
Couple years back I thought to myself I'll read it when they finish with this rise of x. Anyways looks like I'll be reading x men again soon
You want the status quo back? Why? It's played out at this point, let's not go back.
That cool
Ahh the ole "white hot room" that's where they forged adamantium's little brother.
I feel like writers are running out of idea.
The x-men only have four types of stories
- normal magneto shit
- post apocalyptic future
-phoenix force controls someone and everything goes to shit
-acceptance is finally being achieved....only to be undone quickly thanks to some misunderstanding taking us back to square one
Is kind of depressing honestly
That is kind of how I feel about the whole "Fall of X". Krakoa was such an interesting idea (true, it's just a better version of the San Francisco Haven, but it was so expansive and created an interesting mutant culture that it felt vastly different) but the Fall just feels like several past storylines, particularly...the one that was literally happening until the X line was relaunched with Powers/House of X (wherein nearly all mutants are killed and the few remaining are desperately trying to survive). It doesn't just feel like repeating a previous arc, but *regressing* to *the* previous arc.
This is really random and i don't think that you're going to see it but it will be really cool if you were to cover fury max by garth ennis sometime. It's some of his best work imo
Larazz's art is so stunningly beautiful
I kind of like Rasputin IV but she's been written so inconsistently so far. This has been a common problem for this era of X-Men, the characters feel...undefined, or vaguely so, doing things that seem out of character or inconsistent with other moments. I've said it before, but "The Fall of X" era has some interesting ideas (including putting together some interesting combinations), but its writing has really failed to live up to it (the Krakoan era had something of this problem, but it was getting worse as it went on, and the Fall hasn't helped).
Rasputin IV could be best described as "She's whatever you want her to be" to fit the plot/narrative.
So what happened? The X-Men suddenly had their own island "paradise" and now they're suddenly banned from earth?
Basically, another mutant massacre happened, and Orchis, with his group, took over the island and is now hunting mutants.
@@ContagiousSponge Man, the mutants just can't catch a break.
But didn't they do some messed up stuff as well or something?
@@CCaster2000 Honestly, if you wanna know exactly what happened, just look up Hellfire Gala 2023.
Btw, the way the new X-Men died was kinda funny.
@@CCaster2000yes… and no. Prior to this was an event called Sins of Sinister.
In that event, the sinister that we are familiar with (red diamond on his forehead) used his “Moira engine” to manipulate time at a specific point until he could kill Hope. He succeeded in killing her, Emma, Exodus, and Xavier all at once. When they were resurrected, it turned out that Sinister’s goal was to infect everyone with his genes and take over the universe. It worked as most of earth was completely Sinisterized except for Storm and the few remaining mutants from Arakko. It just worked a little too well as the Sinisters eventually turned on him after 100 years, and then each other after nearly 1000 years. Sinister competed against the cyborg Moira and Mother Righteous to reset the timeline, and Moira succeeded. Secretly so did another Righteous.
Upon return to the normal timeline, mother righteous used the information to bring Rasputin IV back to the present where she showed the quiet council memories of what happened which leads to a mind controlled Colossus manipulating the council into revealing the events of this timeline to the world and flushing Krakoa’s reputation down the drain.
@@devegas4910 Is this like another Days of Future Past/Age of Apocalypse/House of M where 616 is temporarily changed into a new reality?
What GREAT issues
like how spider-man never really gets happy endings
🎉
Give me more nightcrawler spider man!!
That mini series just started, man. Hold your horses.
Are you guts going to NYCC
Everyone can one-shtop Wolverine these days
I'm starting the question if wolverine was even strong to begin with outside of the movies and alternate universes that is
Ok dork
@ironmaster6496 Wolverine is a low level mutant. He's not suppose to be very powerful
How does a collar work on juggernaut
juggernaut is not a mutant, so how is he allowed in krakoa?
Neither is dedpool (juggernaut is xaviers brother and deadpool is a trusted friend)
A few non-mutants were allowed to live on Krakoa, because they were family (Kyle Jinadu, the husband of Northstar, and - just before the fall of Krakoa - Kingpin, the husband of Typhoid Mary) or they proved to be useful allies to the mutants (Juggernaut & Deadpool).
@@Tuaron I was gonna ask how the collar could affect Juggernaut. But then I read that Kingpin was married to Typhoid and choked on my beer. Wtf!
@@jon-nl4zc That either stems out of the fantastic recent run of Daredevil or just the Devil's Reign event, I can't remember - I know the couple end up on Krakoa because of DR, though (slight spoilers, but reading any Fall of X stuff referencing the two might've revealed a bit of that).
Why are superheroes always fighting each other? You never see them saving people anymore.
Puny humans...
That's.... pretty much what marvel always does sadly, DC too but to a lesser extent, i mean at this point the comics feel more like transformers stories rather than heroes stories
Right I'm tired of that.
One problem is that, readers would find "saving kittens stuck in trees" or "stopping a tsunami from obliterating a town" to be boring and cliche. It would also be a reminder of how silly the superhero worlds are, when such powerful beings exist and there is STILL poverty, systemic racism, and street crime.
At the bare minimum, Gotham IRL would be almost crime-free cuz the Wayne Foundation + Batman would ensure that no one goes hungry, goes without mental health support, or has any real NEED to commit crimes.
A "real world" with the Justice League would be either a Utopia or a well-run benevolent dictatorship. Either way, in a real world with superpowers and literal magic, all these petty human crimes simply would go away.
So we have to suspend our disbelief, give the powerful beings villains, and Let Them Fight 😄
Lmao read a book
Since when was Juggernaut a mutant?
In a early 2000 cartoons he used mystical powers to activate his powers. I think it’s new class? The one with Spike
I'm so confused why did they turn ms marvel into a mutant?
Move stuff apparently
marco is a mutant now?
👍
Juggernaut is not a mutant! This is stupid, why can't he escape? Is power is magic, you shouldn't be affected or stop his powers by the collar.
Day 46 of asking to do an audio drama about "Morrison's Batman run"
(or at least Batman RIP🙏)
Apokalips. Of course.
So its X-23 all over again. "Like the old geezer, but better!"
Also the power creep is gettin just plain silly.
It almost feels like they lost the will to take X far enough due to alienaiting fans from watching the coming movie(s)?
Well imo both DC and Marvel have dug themselves to the point there is nothing besides reboot to do.
why dont they ever use the X-men for something else?? legit most of their stories they're being oppressed lol
Well they are an oppressed group that's the whole reason they were created that's what made them different
Rasputin 4 can actually beat the whole fantastic 4 team by herself
They disrespected the FF so bad in this issue wtf
Is it time for a Franklin Richards event again?
I need to stay off of these comments. You people act like reading the book is as fictional as the content within the stories.
Please cover the FF comics
ComicStroian have done Marvel Secret Invasion Comic book series..... Marvel Dark Regin Comic book series should be present...
X-Men villain Henry Gyrich, pronounced Guy-Rick, not Grinitch, he won't be missed
I hated that guy
It’s a revaluation ms marvel is a mutant
Third
It's terrible. This shared universe need to be splitted. X-Men need to be a separate title.
I wish they had X-Men in it's own seperate universe honestly
Purge the mutant.
Glory to Orchis.
LMFAO i love what they did to that scum cyclops AHAHAHA