IS WHITE FACE RACIST? I REAL TALK W/ ROCKS

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  • @tinaf600
    @tinaf600 Před rokem +12

    If we can all agree that black face is racist then we should be able to all agree that white face is racist. Let's all stop with the double standards. The world would be a better place.

  • @phoenixbabbitt2597
    @phoenixbabbitt2597 Před 2 lety +35

    Listen, a person is racist if they show prejudice, discrimination, and antagonistic qualities towards a person or people based on their membership to a racial/ethnic group. An action can be offensive but no inherently racist. Black face is offensive to the black community as it portrays a racist history. But to say white face is not the same is a double standard. Of course it may not hold the same history, but it does share the same concept. Both black face and white face are an offensive and antagonizing action against people of a certain racial/ethnic groups. By this logic, both are racist, both should be condemned.

    • @nikofn4631
      @nikofn4631 Před 2 lety

      Blackface isn’t racist cos they paint their face black,it’s racist because it was used for decades to continuously bring down the black race and carry out harmful black stereotypes for the white agenda.On the other hand “whiteface” wasn’t used to do that and would not even be considered a thing if blackface wasn’t a thing

    • @phoenixbabbitt2597
      @phoenixbabbitt2597 Před 2 lety +4

      We can argue back and forth. Bottom line is if the race/ethnic groups one is portraying finds it racist against them. Then is is racist against them.

    • @niklasschneider5340
      @niklasschneider5340 Před 2 lety +3

      @@nikofn4631 So Blackface is ok if it’s used in an comedic way. Becouse white face is ok because it’s only used in a comedic way?

    • @paiddj3397
      @paiddj3397 Před 2 lety +1

      I totally agree.

    • @olsenpetersen2669
      @olsenpetersen2669 Před rokem +2

      ok

  • @derek2339
    @derek2339 Před 3 lety +16

    Did you just say it’s not racist because it doesn’t have history? Lmao think again

    • @domaneishahammond1391
      @domaneishahammond1391 Před 3 lety +5

      It’s not y’all just want to be oppress so bad

    • @derek2339
      @derek2339 Před 3 lety +1

      @@domaneishahammond1391 please do inform me on how you’re oppressed

    • @andrehill4266
      @andrehill4266 Před 3 lety +5

      @@derek2339 so we just gonna sit here and not act like black people get discriminated against everyday? Like the person above said, white face is not racist in anyway shape or form. Is it bad, definitely but it’s not racist to white people as white people were the one to create racism in the first place.

    • @derek2339
      @derek2339 Před 3 lety +3

      @@andrehill4266 what’s the definition of racism?

    • @derek2339
      @derek2339 Před 3 lety +5

      @@andrehill4266 how are black people oppressed and white facing is racist it’s the same thing as black facing and you saying you can’t be racist to white people is racist

  • @glxskyiscool9990
    @glxskyiscool9990 Před 2 lety +8

    History or not.if you don't want somthing done to you then don't do it to them. ..we can't give everyone there OWN SEPARATE set of standards. That's to chaotic for everyone to follow along with.its simple.do unto others as you would have done to you.whats hard to understand. Stop being hypocritical.

    • @DZRCKS
      @DZRCKS  Před 2 lety +1

      History or not is an asinine argument ahaha history matters. That's like saying convicts should have the same standards with the law as a person who's never committed a crime. Their HISTORY MATTERS ahaha the history of an action dictates the standards as to which it well be treated. Don't be silly

    • @fullyloaded1116
      @fullyloaded1116 Před 2 lety +2

      @@DZRCKS the definition of racist is when “a person who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized”. In that definition it says nothing about how history plays a part in racism so, maybe you might want to re-educate yourself in some rational thinking.

    • @landontucker2866
      @landontucker2866 Před rokem

      @@DZRCKSwhite face is used to make fun of white people to be funny. Of course it’s racist. Why are ignoring the definition and being hypocritical.
      Time do exactly what the white people back then did and do the same thing. While turning it racist.

    • @libturdfanai
      @libturdfanai Před rokem

      ​@@DZRCKS 👈🏻🤡

  • @wiggs1969
    @wiggs1969 Před 3 lety +11

    There not making fun but when people put on white powder and pretend to shoot up a school and stuff isn’t stereotyping a group of people because of colour? Because that’s racist to me and the definition from google. Also idk if I miss heard but did you say black people can’t be racist they can only be prejudice... if you did just shuuush

    • @DZRCKS
      @DZRCKS  Před 3 lety +1

      You should go watch again lol I for sure didn't. I think the bigger issue with your example is the shooting of a school. That's not really something "funny" but the stereotype can be funny just like a black father not in the home can be funny

    • @jenkins80526
      @jenkins80526 Před 2 lety +1

      I totally agree. It is a double standard so what's happening is that people have changed the rule to make themselves exempt. Lets say I wanted to dress up as Shaq for halloween. He is a personal hero to me and I love the man. I am not a racist but if i used black makeup to do more to resemble him then I'm immediately racist and a horrible person. Even if I did it with a pure heart and no intention to make fun of him or anyone else in the black community.

    • @rodriguezvanessa8583
      @rodriguezvanessa8583 Před rokem

      @@DZRCKS Such a hypocrite😂 you just tried to justice what you said. White people being stereotyped as school shooters is something negative toward that community of people. Same thing goes for Black people being thugs and stealing…that’s a very negative stereotype that can for sure be seen as racist. Yet a white person being referred to as a school shooter isn’t?🤔

  • @michaellauinger7406
    @michaellauinger7406 Před 2 lety +4

    I know it's offensive to me.

  • @cy6324
    @cy6324 Před rokem +5

    I miss the days when my friends and I, all of us varying in skin color, would crack jokes and call each other "racist" names and do things now deemed "racist" today.
    Everyone today fails to understand the meaning of intent. Intent is a very important thing. What if someone doesn't know the history that so offends you and does something you deem racist while they are being completely innocent? What if it is meant in humor? There are a lot of what ifs...
    It is far easier to stop letting every little thing bother you than it is to place a bunch of rules on the entire world and expect people to follow them.

    • @DZRCKS
      @DZRCKS  Před rokem +4

      i couldnt agree more!! ive always been so open to jokes! we need more people like that. not everything has to be so serious

  • @rubbat2605
    @rubbat2605 Před 2 lety +7

    Now it's a double standard, the video posted good point. Personally i think both are racist in exempted if it's meant to be funny. if a skit or a joke is being made about it. then go for it. but if you put on the color of another person to derail them. then you need to be slapped

    • @rubbat2605
      @rubbat2605 Před 2 lety

      @@HandsomeCZcamsBrowser By all means agreeing to the point if it, except for you thinking Schwarzenegger. is the same as the term used to called Black Amercians.

  • @robspunk
    @robspunk Před 2 lety +9

    That's racist that you're eating noodles to me. I'm Chinese. I understand the connotations of Black people taking offense to blackface, and absolutely it's not right. But I also think for the sake of comedy, anything goes. But should also go for blackface. But white people can find offense to white face too. But I don't think anything should get in the way of comedy, up to the comedian to make sure it's good. Also people forget racism is about hate, it comes from a hateful place. But I also don't give a shit if someone takes my stereotype, it just better be funny.

    • @DZRCKS
      @DZRCKS  Před 2 lety +2

      I'm so stuck on the noodles part ahahaha
      But i agree with comedy! But they're sensitive subjects. You'd never make fun of certain things that really caused pain. Sometimes you can as long as it's really funny. But blackface isn't funny. White face can be. It can be offensive but still has a wide range to be funny.

    • @niklasschneider5340
      @niklasschneider5340 Před 2 lety +1

      @@DZRCKS why should blackface be able to be funny if it’s used in the right sketch? I think white face can be funny and I am also not really personally attacked by it, but the same goes for blackfacing from a white, Asian or Indian person, if it’s used in a comedic way that is not ,,haha look I am black so I am a criminal, it can for sure be funny!?

    • @robspunk
      @robspunk Před 2 lety +2

      @@niklasschneider5340 Yeah that's basically what I was saying but more to the point. Ricky Gervais discusses this well. I think everyone is too sensitive, particularly on behalf of others.

    • @mangekyo_sharingan_
      @mangekyo_sharingan_ Před 2 lety

      @@robspunk that, and the fact that a large majority of black americans is unable to stay rational and objective when it come to topics that involve their skin tone in any way. at least this is my observation as a black guy myself

    • @arcadius3257
      @arcadius3257 Před 2 lety

      Define "Blackface"
      Because I get the destinct feeling that silly Modern Day Americans see it as "Any white person that makes their skin color darker through any means and for whatever reason they might have"... you know, instead of "Racist People who imitate minstrels for the specific purpose of mocking/insulting black people"

  • @karenm9084
    @karenm9084 Před rokem +1

    Woman facing is racist too

  • @Its_Ghost
    @Its_Ghost Před 2 lety +3

    this is just my take im white im northern italian and french and i think if u do anything that is supposed to mock another race is racist no and if or buts because like i dont think anyone wants to see a video of someone imitating ur skin and pretending to be a school shooter because thats a topic that shouldt be joked ab because its a serious problem like i have no problem with like Jordan peele doing it because he is making entertainment and isnt being disrespectful and its used only for comedy nothing else and if its like that im fine with it because if any of yall have gone to a comedy show u would know that some jokes are actually good and everyone laughs but blackface should be off and no one should do it
    and white chicks is the funnesit movie and its not racist because like Jordan Peele they dont go out of stereotypes there 2 detectives who are undercover and have to act like holly white girls and the thing is we all know theres girls who act like that and in the movie its a mask there ligit doing the same stuff the cia dose if the cia wants u undercover whats the best way to hide someone and make them unrecognizable change there skin but im surprised no one mentioned Robert Downey junior in tropic thunder

    • @landontucker2866
      @landontucker2866 Před rokem

      So doing white face is okay and black face isn’t. Seems like you contradicted yourself. How about some does black face in a comedic way to be funny and not be racist. “That’s racist”. How about a black person puts on white face and does it to make fun of the white person. “Oh that’s fine it’s funny”. By the way peele in one of the videos the did white face for a stereotype type of comedy.

  • @abrinnaa_7915
    @abrinnaa_7915 Před 3 lety +1

    I had to explain this to my mom lol .

  • @sirdagwood9154
    @sirdagwood9154 Před 3 lety +9

    Good talk. I think this would be a lot more interesting if you had more of a debate instead of expanding the echo chamber.
    You dont necessarily need historical context to make something racist.
    If this held true, then black face at the beginning was not racist and it would be meaningless to be mad and argue against it at that time.
    What makes it okay then, but now, blackface is racist?
    Whiteface is identical to blackface in that they both stereotype, alienate, and demean the race as a mere characiture.

    • @DZRCKS
      @DZRCKS  Před 3 lety

      But only one was widely done to purposely be racist

    • @sirdagwood9154
      @sirdagwood9154 Před 3 lety +4

      @@DZRCKS and is this not? It's a massive influx in white face minstrel shows in new age media.

    • @derek2339
      @derek2339 Před 3 lety +4

      @@DZRCKS that doesn’t mean that white facing can’t be racist look up the definition of racism and people white facing is 100% racist if they are mocking or saying that white people are less than so yeah I’d say it’s pretty fucking racist

    • @glxskyiscool9990
      @glxskyiscool9990 Před 2 lety

      Yes but double Standards!

    • @glxskyiscool9990
      @glxskyiscool9990 Před 2 lety +1

      @@DZRCKS it's hypocrital.dont bother me at all but stop crying about black face

  • @theglass8542
    @theglass8542 Před 3 měsíci

    You cannot say depiction of one race, positive or negative is racist, but another is not.

    • @DZRCKS
      @DZRCKS  Před 2 měsíci

      If I call a white man the N word..is that racist? No. Because there's no historical racist history behind it towards white men

  • @NoName-fr9yd
    @NoName-fr9yd Před rokem

    When I was in elementary school, I was the only white kid there. I was harassed, beaten bloodied in the hallway and left there as black teachers would walk by and later deny that I was beaten, and was also lured away from the school by a black boy who then raped me. This was all at the age of 6. So what you're telling me is that because black people don't have a history of beating up white kids and white kids were never slaves, that I was a victim of bullying and not racism? I don't approve of black face because it is demoralizing not only because racists make black people the but of their jokes, but because you don't need to put black makeup on your face to make jokes about another race. Same applies to white face. Your logic is just as flawed as the racists you're condemning. Now if you're saying putting makeup on to take on a character that you respect that is a different race, but that person you're impersonating would take offense... THAT STILL GOES BOTH WAYS. I consider anyone putting on makeup to mimic the color of a face that is not their own to be racist in some way because race itself then becomes part of the joke. The difference in what's funny, not what's racist (unless it's done out of hatred). Not everyone that has done blackface knows that what they are doing is racist, but it is NEVER funny because of the history. For example, Japanese people use black face ALL THE TIME, but they are just ignorant because that's not something they teach in their schools.

  • @johnrroberts7900
    @johnrroberts7900 Před 2 lety

    Of course it is. Just like making fun of someone and calling them 'pale' instead of white is as racist as hell. The skin color has no effect on the person's integrity or intellignce.

  • @jaysonarends145
    @jaysonarends145 Před rokem

    The first slaves in the US were Irish. White face is racist. The movie "White Chicks" is extremely racist.

    • @DZRCKS
      @DZRCKS  Před rokem

      Couldn't be Any more wrong.

  • @helloagain6243
    @helloagain6243 Před 3 lety +9

    Anyone can put any colour on their skin, it's a freedom, going against it is fascist.

    • @kbjinx2273
      @kbjinx2273 Před 3 lety +2

      So blackface too

    • @helloagain6243
      @helloagain6243 Před 3 lety +3

      @@kbjinx2273 "blackface" was when actors painted themselves black stereotypically because black people weren't allowed on tv. That's not the same as someone applying a different shade to their skin based on their own choice and preference.

    • @derek2339
      @derek2339 Před 3 lety

      @@helloagain6243 white peoples would paint themselves black to mock and make fun of slaves and black people

    • @helloagain6243
      @helloagain6243 Před 3 lety +3

      @@derek2339 I know. English people wore ginger wigs and got drunk to make fun of the Irish who they enslaved too. And now English women dye their hair ginger to look fashionable. My point is it's perception.
      If all people came from Africa, then all people actually come from dark skinned humans, so if they're doing it to insult, they're only insulting their own ancestors. If someone does it merely to look as accurate as possible for a costume resembling a character that's much different intent.
      So should we start to make a colour law as to what colours we're allowed to paint our own bodies and what colours we can't?
      So blue, green, purple, that's fine,
      but black and brown are not?
      It will never work.

    • @helloagain6243
      @helloagain6243 Před 3 lety

      @@andrehill4266 no, how about no? You ain't controlling anyone.

  • @meatpopsicle01
    @meatpopsicle01 Před rokem

    A white person paint the face black and act funny is offensive to most. A black person paint the face white and act normal is not 😂

    • @DZRCKS
      @DZRCKS  Před rokem

      Exactly! One is racist based on history the other is more so insensitive comedy

  • @Foolercze
    @Foolercze Před rokem

    So black facing isn’t racist too

  • @pianoboydanceboy1167
    @pianoboydanceboy1167 Před 3 lety

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  • @jimbobhk2009
    @jimbobhk2009 Před 3 lety +3

    Old blackface was definitely offensive because black people weren’t part of the the joke, they were the joke. White face like what Murphy, the wayans and chapelle did are funny because everyone can see the humour in it.

    • @speakez4593
      @speakez4593 Před 2 lety +2

      Equal application is equal in offense. It is not just the white on the face it is the words and actions a person would use in character that would be stereotyped by racist biases. Same reason a white guy acting a certain way in blackface is .

    • @NoName-fr9yd
      @NoName-fr9yd Před rokem +1

      "everyone can see the humour in it" is the error in this logic. There are obviously people that don't think it's funny because this video wouldn't exist if no one took offense. What you're saying is that every black person thinks it's funny, which is also wrong because there are plenty of black people that condemned Dave Chapelle for his skit. Painting your face with the color of another race doesn't always have to come from hatred. Now do I give a damn if Dave Chapelle or the Wayans brothers paint themselves white and make good comedy? no. Have I ever painted or have I ever wanted to paint myself black or any other color than white? no. Do I think it's good comedy when a white person uses black face to make an entire video to impersonate black drag queens? no. But I do think it's offensive when you're saying black people are allowed, but white people aren't allowed. It's a difference in what's funny, not what's racist (unless it's done out of hatred).

    • @jimbobhk2009
      @jimbobhk2009 Před rokem

      @@NoName-fr9yd wish I cared enough to read all that

    • @riktoonz
      @riktoonz Před rokem

      Don't forget Nick Cannon and his White People Music cd...🙄🤣🤣

    • @landontucker2866
      @landontucker2866 Před rokem

      @@NoName-fr9ydyour right and it’s a double standard. I honestly don’t find white face to be funny they usually do it to make fun of a persons race to be funny

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    @pianoboydanceboy1167 Před 3 lety +1

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    @gracerammers8363 Před 3 lety +2

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    @mariahsmith836 Před 3 lety +2

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  • @davehart1027
    @davehart1027 Před 3 lety

    I want black people to do white face, tbh i think it would be funny, just as black face can be funny,. Your argument is weak, tropic thunder addressed that, and more...

    • @DZRCKS
      @DZRCKS  Před 3 lety +1

      You should watch it again without your silly response at the front of your brain. You clearly didn't watch to comprehend

    • @davehart1027
      @davehart1027 Před 3 lety

      @@DZRCKS you siwwy person you. I grew up with 3 tv channels, i grew up when black and white moved into colour, i watched those movies where black were dressed as whites, indinans were painted, i mean, your stoned broadcast of your opinion in my mind was irrelevant, as this message is. History is the past, you cant change it. Why bring an arguement about something you can not change?

    • @davehart1027
      @davehart1027 Před 3 lety

      Seriously what you talking is bulshhhhh do a broadcast with white face, it will be funny. A white female was disqualified from a cosplay contest because she played as a male alien whos skin was black.... answer that.... a female cannot play as a male alien because their skin was black... if it was blue etc, think it would happen?

    • @DZRCKS
      @DZRCKS  Před 3 lety

      You completely miss the entire point to reiterate some horse shit ahaha

    • @davehart1027
      @davehart1027 Před 3 lety

      @@DZRCKS i will rewatch and probably recomment, when i am less tipsy... classic racism that most people would hear about is sammy davis jnr, part of the rat pack, he was allowed to perform onstage, but wasnt allowed to to watch offstage other acts, please correct me if im wrong, that was only a 4th or 7th party retelling, i wasnt personaly there

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    @pianoboydanceboy1167 Před 3 lety

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  • @kbjinx2273
    @kbjinx2273 Před 3 lety

    Blackface is ok?

    • @DZRCKS
      @DZRCKS  Před 3 lety +2

      Did you actually watch the video?

    • @mrchewx02
      @mrchewx02 Před 3 lety +5

      I think he was asking if blackface is ok now, if it’s no longer meant as hate, or to segregate. Now that it’s being done for the same reason As whiteface, just as a joke or for entertainment purely, does that make them the same at this point in time?

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    @pianoboydanceboy1167 Před 3 lety

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  • @henryjohnson5979
    @henryjohnson5979 Před rokem

    What if I’m Mexican and do blackface is that racist???

  • @pianoboydanceboy1167
    @pianoboydanceboy1167 Před 3 lety

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    @pianoboydanceboy1167 Před 3 lety

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  • @Johnthemod222
    @Johnthemod222 Před 2 lety +1

    Black face isn’t making fun of black people its about the context. If someone was dressing up as a black and white minstrel maybe but if they dress up as MLK, Jimi hendrix or the Jackson 5 then it’s not really making fun out of black people it’s just because you want to look like that character. So if I went as Jimi Hendrix to a fancy dressy party and had all the clothes and a blow up guitar but I’m not allowed to black my face up or wear a Afro wig then how will people know who you are

    • @DZRCKS
      @DZRCKS  Před 2 lety +3

      You just be very very young to think black face isn't offensive based on history aha Google is your friend

    • @Johnthemod222
      @Johnthemod222 Před 2 lety

      @@DZRCKS I don’t get what you mean. If your mimicking a black person and making fun of them then yes but if your going as a black person in history then how is it. Are you saying I can’t dress up as Jimi Hendrix or ray Charles at a fancy dress party

    • @DZRCKS
      @DZRCKS  Před 2 lety +1

      @@Johnthemod222 you can...just not in black face aha it's historically racist. White face isn't historically racist. You can dress up however you want but do it in a way that black face isn't necessary. Jimi Hendrix is easy without paintingyour face

    • @Johnthemod222
      @Johnthemod222 Před 2 lety

      @@DZRCKS not really I and what happened if I wanted to go as will smith in men and black would you just assume I was Tommy lee Jones or would you think was will smith

    • @DZRCKS
      @DZRCKS  Před 2 lety

      @@Johnthemod222 well the MIB is an occupation. It's not necessary to go as either one! Would you get will smiths hair cut in it?

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    @pianoboydanceboy1167 Před 3 lety

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  • @henryjohnson5979
    @henryjohnson5979 Před rokem

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    @pianoboydanceboy1167 Před 3 lety

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