BETTER THAN 4K DISK?? // Zidoo UHD3000 THE BEST 4K UHD Player?
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- čas přidán 5. 07. 2024
- Mindblowing 4K UHD Media Player that is better than a blu-ray player? Let's find out in this video where we take a look at the Zidoo UHD3000 and the Zidoo Z1000 Pro and give away competition for the Zidoo Z9X streaming media player. This isn't an Apple TV 4K or an Nvidia Shield Pro, or Chromecast TV, Zappiti, Kaleidescape, Firestick or any other blueray player like the Panasonic DP-UB820 - This is a dedicated media player that will play your 4K media library that you rip/backup from your physical disk.
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00:00 Intro
03:41 - Zidoo UHD3000 Setup
05:16 - Zidoo Experience
06:45 - Zidoo Video Processor
08:21 - Zidoo VIDEO DEMOS!
08:45 - My Verdict
12:25 - My Candid Thoughts
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Thank you for the video Tony, very informative man. Good luck to all of my buddies on discord getting this player!!
Wow thank you at last a Zidoo 3000 review in English!
Been searching for a while and you have convinced me to purchase this now as opposed to the alternative expensive model from the Zappitti range.
This will go great with my new JVC NZ7 projector.
Great review!
You won't be disappointed! Glad my video helped :)
I hope your channel continues to grow. You are becoming my go to guy compared to others in your space. Just got my Z1000 pro and I love it.
Thanks for message. Glad you are enjoying your Z1000 Pro! Plenty more of this content on the way!
Thanks for the terrific video Tony! I found this really informative and learned a lot from this video, as I’ve never really gone exploring down this path before.
I’ll definitely look into this further down the track. Would love to see a video sharing your thoughts on comparing the Zidoo with the Zappiti!
Thanks Jase - I wonder if you could even do it for your collection HAHA! You would be ripping your content for months and need a LOT of disc storage in a NAS. I am hopefully getting a Zappiti in a month or two to try out so I will post a video when it's done.
Thanks for the video Tony, these look awesome. I love the interface and scrolling through all of the thumbnails, I think I'm especially interested in how much of a difference it made to the image though. I always want to buy more stuff when you upload :D
Haha sorry, not my intention but I love sharing what I discover with new HT products to me.
Great review Tony covering all the main features of these units and how they would be an asset to any home cinema. Well done.
Love your reviews and videos great job as always. Long time viewer frist time caller. I could listen to you say aluminum all day. Keep up the great work
I recently finished ripping over 400 movies and I've been watching for something like this, with high quality playback at a reasonable price. You sold me, sir. Just pulled the trigger on the Z1000. Excellent review!
Perfect! Glad it helped.
Where did you buy it from. Can't find it anywhere
@@estusflask982 Bought it on the Zidoo website.
Thanks Tony. Great Vid. I have hundreds of 4k and Blu Ray discs but its hard to beat the convenience of Streaming
Thanks for the review, Tony. I picked up a Zidoo Z1000 Pro and I'm amazed at its stellar performance; it's a heck of a lot friendlier and more robust than my Zappitti Pro 4k.
Thats awesome. I'm yet to test a Zap myself but have been to friends places who have them and they seem to do a great job as well - but the Zidoo doesnt need logins etc... I prefer it personally, bang for buck its awesome!
Great review Tony! I have been using the X10 Pro here in the States the other ones are hard to get ahold of.
I have not tried to burn an ISO yet but the MKV's look spectacular.
The player will accept MKV format as well without any issue :)
Great video mate, that interface looks so good and would love to have this in my setup one day!
Thanks mate! Enter the competition ;)
Great video Tony, thanks for the comprehensive overview!
Thanks for watching as always and the feedback :)
Great video Tony. The Zidoo did look better in the comparison, well done on the side by sides.
Thanks mate. Total cow to line them up and I moved the camera slightly when pressing record as the gimbal ram out of juice lol.
Huge thanks for this excellent, very informative video.
I have a Zidoo Z1000 Pro and recently put a 16TB HDD into the internal drive bay. Unfortunately, as soon as I pressed play on the first film the immersion was totally ruined by the almost continual grinding and clunking from the HDD, a Seagate Exos X16. I've overcome this with an external 5 bay enclosure (Terramaster D5-300C) and a long USB cable to hide the enclosure in another room. All working well.
I have a question if you could answer - would it be beneficial to put a small SSD (via a 2.3 to 3.5 adapter) into the internal bay and, if possible, set the Zidoo to use that internal SSD as a store for the posters, thumbnails etc? Would that load the posterwall etc faster? There is a 'Custom' location in the menu - is that the unit's own 32GB eMMC storage, or does it mean anything connected to the internal 3.5 bay?
I believe you can specify local disc to store your thumbnails. Mine are on my NAS in a central spot for both my players and it loads them quickly over the network.
Great to view content about the UHD 3000. I imported mine about a year ago and using it with 2 8tb drives. Im using it with an EPSON TW9400 and it works great, when i tried it with my LG OLED i was blown away by Dolby Vision image.
The DV VS10 engine is incredible right?
What kind of movies you play there? You use streaming services or what? Does this thing make streaming services look better or regular movies? Because it says it does not use discs?
@@BuildMontage To quote my wife 'it looks like real fire'
@@dandan412 It does one thing very well, Playing movies from a disk or NAS.
16tb is nothing of course if a 4k is 90gb.
This is definitely on the shopping list now, great video Tony!
Awesome! Mick sells them so def hit him up… if u need a hand setting it up let me know.
Hi bro, this device looks really awesome and with tons of potencial. Keep inspiration coming Tony! Love you man!
Love your enthusiasm for these media players. What exactly is the HDMI-in used for ? Can you feed it from another source like UHD Disc Player directly ? What can the Zidoo do with that image before sending it back out ? Apply the VS10 color processing ? Scale a 2.35 to vertically fill a 16:9 screen ? I understand Kodi can run on even the Z9X model and Kodi can do these scaling functions and zooming functions -- I suppose only with ripped files -- but doesn't the Zidoo itself have some aspect ratio setting in the "Display" menus ?
There are aspect settings but as I have a 16:9 screen I can’t test that. I tried but it didn’t look right. I have so many other streamers I am not looking at this for streaming at all. I think for proper tone mapping a lumagen or madvr is best.
@@BuildMontage You can't tell if a 2.35 film gets stretched vertically to fit your 16:9 screen when using the "Fit" option or the "Screen Scale" arrows ? Should be obvious if they have any effect. When you say "didn't look right", what did they look like ?
What's it like as a music player? Does it come with a 'music jukebox' GUI?
What's the file explorer like? Are the fonts large enough to see well on a 4L 65" TV? (I find this an issue with games on my PS 4pro and my current Zappiti 4K HDR media player).
Looks fine to me. You can see it on my latest NEO Alpha video - its the same interace
Hi, I'm undecided between Zappiti, Zidoo, Reavon and OPPO UDP-203. The main use is the reproduction of 4K movies in MKV or ISO, always in native resolution without compression. Audio-video quality is very important to me. Which one do you recommend for this? I play with a Sony 4K XW-5000 laser projector and Denon 4800H.
Thanks in advance for the answer.
I love Zidoo but I will be testing a Zappiti soon. Both devices will give you a great result.
My new favorite channel!!! About to watch all your videos. Movies are my life.
Appreciate you watching.
hi do you use xlr output to sound for example watching hdr suicide squd movie, which one better hdmi or xlr?
If I had a proper desktop instead of my surface laptop I would consider getting this thing. I would love to be able to put my blu rays up in storage and just be able to play them like a streaming service. That would be convenient.
Try a chromebook u silly goose! Now let's go eat lunch and grab some cucumber sandwiches 🥪 with extra mayo and dill
Hey Tony you have great content, I'm early in my home theatre journey I've got a 5.1.2 system made up of klipsch/denon and svs sub in a small room but I'm wondering what u would go with, either the panasonic ub9000/820 or should I just go the zidoo and start ripping my discs to watch that way, i can only afford one of these options, ive currently only got the ub420 4k disc player but it lacks DV and obviously isn't in the same league as these other options
Personally, if you have the UB420 already, stick with that and get a dedicated media player.... IF... (here's the caveot) you are prepared to do the 1:1 ISO rips, and have storage (NAS or disks inside the Zidoo) - that way you still have your player if you need it, but the best of both worlds with the Zidoo. I will probably never ever use my physical player again - and as I have my entire collection ripped, as I get new disks, I just rip them as needed without spending a lot of time - 30 minutes and its done. Then convenience of the experience you get from the Zidoo.
@@BuildMontage that's exactly my thoughts too I don't mind ripping them I've got a 4k compatible drive on its way. Thanks for your opinion
@@BuildMontage Can you really rip A 4K UHD blu ray in 30 minutes the consensus is 58 minutes DVD’s in 30 minutes but definitely not 4K UHD in 30 minutes. Not unless you are ripping in a different manner.
Very interesting option! Would love to see a more in depth comparison to Plex and Zappiti to see how Zidoo stacks up!
I have Plex, been an early adopter and lifetime member. There isn’t a real way to compare the way I have done my rips as ISO 1:1 and Plex cannot read iso. I did my own offline test of movies I had as rips Plex could read and both video and audio were not even close to as good as the Zidoo. The LFE tracks were lacking and the video was had leas sharpness. It was t possible to show this in the review - it would have blown out to an hour long if I included all of these things.
Great video Tony, very informative video. Thanks! Greetings from Austria 🇦🇹
Glad it was helpful! Hope you are doing well over there :)
Hi, thanks for the great overview!
Can I maintain the movie data like poster, own genres or more dedicated genres to a movie, own ratings via e.g. a windows webbroser?
Can I access movies and music via Windows explorer?
Yes, for the most part you can access from your Windows PC to update via a web browser.
Thanks for the video Tony, I ordered the UHD1000 after seeing this video. Also ordered an external blu ray drive to rip my close to 350 4K and regular blu ray movie collection. I'm looking forward to the video about the making the iso backups using DVDFab ripper and DVDFab copy 😀
Awesome! Hope you enjoy it! If there is enough interest I'll make that video :)
Hi, What model external 4k bluray burner is being used in the video?
I have had a lot of trouble getting clean iso rips with blurays and 4k blurays
MakeMKV > DVDFab
@@SweatRiley After seeing this video I purchased dvdfab and and a UHD friendly player to rip my 4K and blu ray collection. I use the Archon MD-8107S-U3YC-UHDB, I believe that is the same model as mentioned in the video. I have had some trouble with read errors, but that is usually solved with restarting my pc, or install a pending update.
@@BuildMontage Hi, did you make the video on how to build iso file library with DVDFab?
Currently have the Z1000 Pro paired with AVM 90 and Sony XW6000ES. Very impressed with the image quality over Nvidia Shield. Is there any difference in video quality moving to UHD3000?
No - same quality on all Zidoo models I have tested. You just get better audio components for 2 channel music via XLR and an additional 2GB ram and additional HDD port.
Great Overview Video, Thankyou
Question - Does the Zidoo Media Players have an Offline Mode (no internet required) once movies, medidata, poster art is initially setup ?
Also can you view Utube & other basic apps through Media Player when online ?
Im considering the Zidoo Z2000 Pro as it has the newer Android 11 operating System instead of 9 for the Z1000. Should be faster and less redundant for the future.
Yes you can install the G version of the OS and install Google apps on it. You can also operate the Zidoo completely without an internet connection. Once you have matched everything it will just work.
@@BuildMontage Perfect, Thanks... as a current Zappiti Neo owner I wish my Zappiti worked like that. To add a "new title" to my offline mode (before Zappitis Liquidation hit) my entire 700+ movies & 22+ TV series had to be rescanned each & every time. A LONG & Painful Process ! The Zidoo setup & U.I looks great.👍 Just hope picture & sound quality is as good as my current Zappiti Neo. 🤞
What would you recommend between z9x z10 pro and z1000 pro?
I am hoping to be able to afford a home cinema one day. I will definitely come over and watch a movie in your home cinema.
How many times would you have to watch the same movie before the faster load times vs. disc made up for the time you spent ripping it? Like I get it, I'm the same kind of dork and I've ripped plenty of discs but that just means I see through that supposed advantage. If the main use-case involved people who owned discs, they'd have put a drive in at least one of their products.
It’s a non starter. I put the disk in to rip and walk away and do something else… come back and it’s done so literally it’s the same amount of time spent as if I was to put it in a player to watch :)
Hey, Tony -- thanks for the Zidoo review! Currently using a Nvidia Shield which I thought I was happy with. You may have peeled some scales away from my eyes, lol
I’m about to put a shield through its paces to compare :)
@@BuildMontage Yay! Look forward to it!!
@@BuildMontage can’t wait to see that.
@@BuildMontage please, please, please 🙏!
Fantastic review Tony, really informative and sounds a like great product. Can I ask which version of dvdfab you recommend for ripping lossless 4k UHD discs?
For DVDFab, I got the UHD Copy and the UHD Ripper.
@@BuildMontage excellent, thanks Tony, keep up the great work!
@@BuildMontage So first you use UDH copy to remove copy protection, and afterwards you use UHD ripper to rip the disc?
Great review buddy. Excellent players.
Ok first thing first, WHy buy this over a Nvidia Shield Pro since you seem to still have to supply your own NAS beyond the two drivebays included with the Zidoo? Is the processor that much faster than Nvidia Shield? Will this Zidoo keep being updated for the longhaul with software enhancements like the Shield etc.?
I may need to make a video on this as I'm getting a lot of questions about it... I have the Shield Pro and Kodi. When I play the same 1:1 ISO rips from disk on the Shield, there are a number of differences. Overall, the browsing experience is not as good, it feels clunky and outdated - but this can be subjective. When it comes to playing a movie, it doesn't apply any advanced tone mapping like the Zidoo does, so Dolby Vision LLDV VS10 engine isn't there on the Shield Pro so the image looks quite flat by comparison. The audio as well was quite lackluster by comparison to the Zidoo. There was more channel separation and overall, the volume levels were better... The Shield felt quite muted - and yes pass through to my receiver is enabled. The Zidoo is a DEDICATED player, so there aren't any 3rd party apps to install, it has been designed just to play rips, but in the best possible way. I know how it may sound, I have been a PLEX/NAS user for a VERY long time and I still use my streamer boxes for other downloaded content like TV shows, but with movies, the Zidoo and Zappiti players handle things in a nicer way. There are negatives to these players, but they are more when comparing to "streaming". I'm honestly not trying to convince anyone to buy one, I get no commissions or was paid for this video, I just was shocked at how much I really enjoyed the experience of this player over one from a streamer.
@@BuildMontage thank you. I have yet to jump into NAS storage rips on my disks, but am considering it after seeing the review. Would be cool to see ac head to head with the shield in a dedicated video to this topic. 👍👍
@@Espiritiv I did the head to head with another bluray player because that is the direct comparison, but most of the comments I get are wanting comparisons to Shield! So I will have to get that video happening :)
@@BuildMontage Saw that. Definitely liked the pop it got from the Zidoo! Is it the Dolby Vision pre processing giving it that look? You have the JVC NX7 right?, so that has its own HDR type Tone mapping. So do you have to disable that on the JVC when switching between your Disk player and Zidoo when doing the comparison? EIther way it seems like the Zidoo is great compared to disks (totally surprised) . Look fwd to future video on Shield Pro comp.
If you Rip an ISO with DVDFab, does the Zidoo play the Movie straight when you click on it or do you have to navigate through the bluray menu ?
It can both :)
Seems like an awesome product Tony! As someone who doesn't have any server storage, I'm wondering what are all the ways that you can hook up storage to these players? Would I have to get the flagship model and use the internal bays, or is there another option for me without investing in a home server?
Yes, depending on which player you get, the UHD3000 has two internal bays - so you could get 32TB of storage, and the Z1000Pro has options for 1 internal drive bay and also a SATA connector - and USB for USB attached discs. I prefer home server so I can use in multiple locations and have all the redundancy options as well. Yes it's an investment!
@@BuildMontage I really have no interest in adding a home server, so that won't be an option for me. But I would definitely be interested in seeing how the setup for the other options work when it comes to adding movies to a HDD and then playing them, so I'll have to do some research on this.
@@TerminatorJuice They work alright with a normal usb hard disk or a flash drive. It has 2 usb 3.0 ports and you can play movies without any issues through them. I use them both.
You can build a cheap NAS box to house your storage and feed one of these players. Many people are put off at the idea of a server but once you take that step, it's hard to go back. Everything is simple, organized, and right at your fingertips anywhere in your home (or on the go if set up for it).
Hi, im new to the home cinema game so i need enlightening about these zidoo products. How are they any better than a device such as a fire stick that has HDR10 and dolby vision and 4k and also owning a panasonic ub9000, surely it cant be any better than streaming movies using that from prime, disney+ & youtube?.....im looking at these devices with interest but im really unsure what it would offer me in comparison to what iv got already
Hi, happy to help but just checking if you watched the whole video? I went into great detail about what these players are for. Ultimately nothing your 9000 can’t do but it’s about convenience of having your library to browse around, load quickly and easily without searching for a disk and having the same experience. I’m not trying to convince anyone to buy one, more sharing my love of this hobby and the various options and choices we have.
Hi Tony, this video got me go buy a UHD3000. I'm enjoying the difficulty of setting it all up.
One major issue I'm facing is, there's audio delay of 4 seconds!! So my experience is getting disrupted. Imagine losing 4 seconds of music at the start.
Please help. Great video BTW :)
Tony thank you for the video. I've just purchased one of these players and I'm struggling to add some hard drives. The manual is dreadful and their forums are worse. Can you make a video on how to add the drives or point me in the right direction to some good instructions. Cheers
I dont think I am in a position just now to make a whole video on how to add drives - you can join my discord though and chat to me and the community and ask questions - lots of Zidoo fans here
Thank you for your great review. I don't have it yet What is the first step of starting with this? considering I have a big collection of physical 4k disks and i don't know how to rip them. My movie room is complete, looking for more things to do. Thank you.
Big job - you have to rip all your media to a NAS first - thats the big part of the job. Once that's done, you can choose a player.
hi Tony. I have my 4k blurays ripped and stored. z1000 pro is enough for me and can't get UHD3000. so, does z1000 pro support dolby vision with .m2ts and mkv extensions ? I'm currently using Zappiti one se and there is no Dolby vision support in it.
Yes it is supported. Z1000 pro is what I have and use.
Great review thanx Tony. Wondering if you have your Z1000Pros yet and if you have tried installing Netflix on them?? I'd be keen on buying only if Netflix operates without any issues??
Not yet, hoping to. And you can side load Netflix but I have no intention of doing so. This is a media player, not a streaming box. I have Apple TV, Chromecast TV, Shield TV Pro etc etc for that if I want to stream. Using a universal remote makes it really easy to switch.
Yeah I have the Shield TV Pro too and use it for all streaming from Netflix and ripped DVD from my NAS using Kodi. Do you consider the playback of ripped DVDs on the Zidoo to be far superior to the Shield??
@@cranksv477 I have a shield on its way for me to test!
Kia Ora Tony ,Cheers for review bought Zidoo 1000 pro / Blu-ray writer you recommended and dvd fab . ripped our Blu-ray's and dvd's but our 4k movies error comes up . using laptop to transfer . Cheers
Wow great channel, it's like setting Netflix in my on home.. you earn my subs!.. I hope more content from your setting how to setup synology + x265 media player.
Hi Build Montage, awesome content as always - very informative,
on a different note: what do you mean by keystone when setting up an ultra short throw projector? arno
Keystone is when you manipulate the edges of the image to conform them to the screen rather than alignthe projector physically to meet the edges of the screen.
thanks for the tip, looking forward to setting up the vava shipping sometime soon, happy days
Hi Tony between Apple TV 4K,ZIDOO AND ZAPITTI WHICH IS THE BEST OPTIONS FOR ME.CAN YOU DO COMPARISON.THANKS
It’s a very broad question - Apple TV is a streamer. Zidoo and Zappiti do very similar things but I haven’t reviewed the Zappiti yet.
Awsome love the iso feature!
Hey Great video, always fun watching these. But this one is something i've been looking to do, similar to the Kelidescape but more my price range. However, you might have said it and i missed it, but if i didn't want to RIP all my movies or instead of buying new and ripping, does the player have a digital store i could buy my movies from? Like a Kelidescape or even if i have the Disc already it gives us a discount to download the movie RAW from the server? I got many movies and will buy more, but i don't know if i would RIP for days on end ;) Thanks man.
Unfortunately not, it is a player only, so whatever you feed it, it will play. Yes it's a lot of work. I took two weeks ripping my disks just to make this video....
@@BuildMontage and Tony, we appreciate you and all the work you do, thank you sir!
@@ThommyGunnGaming That's what makes Kaleidascape so special. They partners with studios to be able to download them movies right to the player but usually higher quality than you get on Bluray or 4k Blurays.
Very informative video 👍. I was confused between Zappiti One & Zidoo Z1000 pro, after watching ur video just ordered Zidoo 1000pro.
Thanks for watching. Glad it was helpful
@@BuildMontage can I stream Netflix 4k content on it.
So I finally bit the bullet and purchased this beast. Video playback is awesome. Right now my challenge is to better understand the music options. I am trying to understand when to use the “HDMI” vs. “DAC” with regards to “”Source In” to play audio. Choosing between these two options usually force me to change inputs on my AVR. But when sound does play it is also awesome (paired w/ AVM70 & Tonewinner AD-8300). I am also trying to figure out a couple of things…1, is it best to have HDR on “Auto” or “VS10” for SDR/HDR? 2nd, where can I download a google play store APK file that will work and not crash? 3rd, Is there a Neo Alpha forum?
Difficult one to answer but basically you have HDMI in for audio so it's just taking a bitstream or any kind of audio in, and then you can map it to play via the XLR for stereo. Your other question: I leave mine on auto because I have a HDFury which tricks my projector into playing Dolby Vision so it works. Also no apps are supported on the Zidoo - you can 3rd party side load at your own risk but its not suypported.
I would like to know more of the differences between the Z1000pro and the Z9X for playing off the NAS. There doesn't really seem to be any good use for the HDD slot, but I think the Z1000pro has twice the memory of the Z9X for storing metadata, which could be a big deal if your NAS is big enough. (What happens if you exceed the number of movies/shows/albums?)
I didnt seem to notice much difference - I have both models. Possibly additonal RAM may make it faster but I honestly do not notice any difference between the two.
Good review, I got the 1000 pro at Christmas, biggest problem was scraping my synology nas, I had to spend best part of day correcting errors of misidentification and lumping of series of films under 1 title, as a,b,c,d etc
Forgot to say, picture and sound is awesome
Yes 100% the detection is not ideal for downloads, but I found when I ripped an ISO from my physical collection it worked wonders. I have kept my.... "other" collection on a different NAS and not connected to the Zidoo. All the thumbnails you saw in the video was me ripping them for two weeks straight just to make this video :)
@@BuildMontage thanks, be nice to see video on ripping process, the link for 4k drive does not work for amazon UK (does not exist ) or amazon spain (not available)
@@SandyToesDetecting You may need to change to USA as it's available there - just change that part to amazon.com instead of .co.uk
Ok thanks. Re ISO’s and mkv’s. Assuming best possible conversion to move has does quality stack up to iso ?
Is there IP control using home automation controllers - Zappatti has 2 way drivers for control4, Crestron, RTI etc?
Yes I believe so: www.zidoo.tv/Support/control4.html
Hi Tony, good video. Coincidently I was googling the other week to see if Plex will play a 1:1 iso rip and looking at alternatives when I discovered it didn’t. Do you have any thoughts on how you are getting better channel separation? Are you passing bitstream audio to your processor via HDMI? If so it should be identical on the Panasonic vs Zidoo… Also really keen to understand if there is a noticeable picture difference if you attach this to a MadVR. Mick has one I’m sure you can test with :)
Yes, my thoughts as well, it is of course RAW pass through to the receiver, but im serious it just sounded different, better, I cannot explain it. That's why I need someone to sit with me and listen and make sure I don't have confirmation bias :) And as these belong to Mick, I will be setting them up there and seeing if MADVR will work even more magic.
@@BuildMontagecould indeed be unconscious bias! A blind test would be good to help determine this.
Have you tried playing the extracted blu ray content on a Nvidia shield pro? The shield supports 4K, bitstream pass through via HDMI, and 23.976fps frame rates so resolution switching works to get that film effect on your projector.
I’m interested to know how much better the image looks if you took the iso and extracted the video and audio, and put it into a MKV container and played via plex on the Nvidia shield pro too!
@@BuildMontage that is interesting the Zidoo UHD3000 had better channel separation than the Z1000Pro or Z9X for Dolby TrueHD or PCM multichannel?
Big Thanks for the great video!! it really helped
Glad it helped!
Whats the largest file that you've played with it? I tried playing a ~20gb mkv over ethernet with the pro model and notice occasional micro jitters in the video playback. Do you notice this with the pro or uhd?
100GB files play with ease either ISO or MKV - never had any micro jitters on playback even with the Z9X which I have upstairs, or the Z1000 Pro I have in my dedicated room. Usually its somewhere in the chain causing that, but definitely not the player.
@@BuildMontage Thanks for letting me know. I think I'll replace the CAT5e cable to something better. May I ask what cable you are using? And are you using static/dynamic IP? Thank you.
I have an ultra techy question it says the unit has hdmi audio out on 1.4. Does this mean it jailbreaks the Dolby true hd audio from 4k content. That would unbrick my anthem mrx700 while still getting 4k to my lg oled. That would be a game changer!!
I believe that is the case although on this unit I didn't test it - but there is the ability to separate audio and video out - it just depends how you intend to use the signal you are getting. To fix your problem though, you could get a HDFury Arcana2 or VRRoom which will allow you to split the audio and video for any source/multiple sources. Or if budget is an issue, you could use this to achieve it and that way use your MRX700 only for the audio processing: amzn.to/3GujKGP
But how do you get 4k content onto hard-rive? Are you taking 4k Blu Rays and ripping them to your computer somehow?
I literally showed myself doing it - did you watch the video :) ;)
Was the video capture of the differences in the look of a movie played back via the Ziddoo V's disc player taken from your projector or a TV?
It's just that you said that your projector inserts a filter normally when playing via a disc player, but can be bypassed when using the Zidoo.
I suspect it's the filter being engaged on your projector with the disc playback that is the reason for the stark differences differences seen in your video review, and those difference wouldn't be so noticeable if played back via a TV screen which wouldn't have such a filter.
Interesting product.
You may have misunderstood or I didnt explain it properly - the filter is a physical filter on the projector set when I use "Cinema" mode - so i was engaged on both examples.
@@BuildMontage OK, got it, I thought you were talking about some sort of digital contrast increasing filter that switched in on your projector [which would been news to me, as I've never heard of anything like that existing ], sort of like a additional Tone Mapping, or auto iris on the lens.
I, like you, have my own calibration gear, did you use the same single PJ calibration for both Zidoo and Disc player when shooting the video?, or did you make a separate calibration for each and then videoed them separately ......It just seems like a abnormally big difference between the two sources played through the same projector.
Great video, seriously considering getting one now. Do you think the audio and or video quality is better than a shield?
I can't say yet as I don't have a shield to compare it. I need to get one!
@@BuildMontage please do compare those!
@@mwstorms21 I did. Videos live!
Hi Tony, are you still intending to do a comparison between the Zidoo UHD 3000 and the Zappiti Reference?
Thanks
Alex
If I can get my hands on one yes - unfortunately I haven't been sent one yet so I can't do the comparison.
What is the model of 4k external bluray burner being used in the video?
Link in the description
Hello Thank You the Info of this Hard Drive Unit Is there any Issues of About Copy right Problems While using it for your Personal Use???
You need to check with your local laws. In Australia you can have specific content as a backup but there are some caveats.
Great video. The Zidoo really does look the part un terms of interface, convenience. Just wondering if the image is so much brighter than you would get on a high end Bluray player, wouldn’t that may be indicate the image is being processed to something not intended? Same with the audio. Probably will not matter when you take into account the convenience and people will prefer a brighter picture…
I'm not sure, the thing is, you can make manual tweaks to the image output in the Zidoo so possibly that is what has happened. Either way, I prefer the image on the Zidoo vs my Panasonic. HDR has no "standard" as such so it's hard to know what the director intended, especially on a projector display vs a TV. Either way I'm very happy with it to the point I ordered two of my own!
Does it do Atmos? It also needs HDMI 2.0 in and out.
And the ability to connect an outbound drive.
My experience of zidoo is that they drop support of their products pretty quick.
Can you transfer files from an attached portable hard drive to the installed hard drives in the bays…? By remote control or attached mouse and keyboard…?
Yes you can :)
Does the ISO playback maintain the menus of the disc? I have a well developed Plex server with nearly 100TB of content, but it's only the feature content. Having access to a raw disc archive would be nice if I want to go back and see bonus features, director commentary, etc. without needing to go find the disc and put it in a player. Plex has outright said they would never support this type of playback, so a nice player with a good UI that can just open a disc ISO like I put it in a UHD player would be perfect.
Yes that's correct, it plays it exactly like the disk if you don't strip the menus out - it will read an ISO which is why I like ISO, although people are telling me MKV will also do the same thing as it's just the container. I am unconvinced - I need to test more! But yes you can rip every disk and run it as if it's inside a physical player.
@@BuildMontage Guys, I believe both the Zidoo and Zappiti have options to play back the Menus and Bonus disk just like watching with a physical disk. The Zappiti would also play back movie sound track music when you hover over the movie file, has custom cover art options that you can add Blue Ray, 4K, 3D, Bonus Disk and Concert headings to your cover art. It also has easier movie grouping/collection options as well. The only downside to the Zappiti vs Zidoo is the picture wall seams slow sometimes because of the cloud server used for your metadata.
Thanks
PM
How does this compare to Nvidia Shield TV Pro running Kodi or Plex?
I am yet to test out Shield Pro. My experience thus far with PLEX is that the player is eons ahead of the PLEX experience. Just my opinion, not facts
How do you sync back changes to your computer Please.
And can you delete your source folder if you want ?
Im not sure what you are referring to specifically. Please elaborate and I'll do my best to answer.
Great video, you got my attention on the Zidoo!! Did anyone know if the z1000 pro could take one internal 16tb and then same using external sata? would make sense it would just not sure. thx!
Pretty sure I saw a raw sata cable in the box... I'll have to go check but I think you're right if you are having it hidden away.
@@BuildMontage guess im just making sure once the 14tb is in the internal, you can still have more to add using either the esata or usb but would think so since it has all those ports avail
Not sure why I want this above mine Shield 2019 with kodi. And why XLR if I have a Marantz atmos receiver?
Does the Shield have a dolby vision engine in it? I don’t know. I’m about to do a streamer shootout so just had a shield delivered. Also the xlr output and higher end dac is to give a cleaner output TO your Marantz.
So what are the other differences between zidoo 1000 pro and 3000 besides xlr’s and dual hdd?
From what I can tell - just that and the dedicated DAC, but I think they are generally the same - also 2GB ram instead of 4GB. I noticed no change in performance between the two.
I love that now with mist OS’s built into tv. I can have other devices just like this one live right next to an app like Netflix or my old aptv library. If only the os on the TVs remote could search for my movie on all the apps and this device. Would be great if this Device had an extra add on piece of hardware that made this the full OS for the tv. And could take inputs from ps5, have all the best apps and voice to search and pull from them all.
Is there a shuffle option to have the movies shuffle every few minutes instead of skating around the library?
You can make demo mode in the settings of your favourite time stamps and let it cycle.
Hey Great Video, nicely explained, I wish if Z9X had HDMI out for audio, I recently bought one and accidentally connected Box HDMI In to sound bar and surprisingly it worked, box literally output audio to sound bar. But after firmware update it stopped outputting audio :(. I know that sound silly, HDMI has differ purpose…but how it worked as Audio out was still shocking to me. My LG CX block DTS and sound bar cannot pass through DV HDR. I am stuck
Thats interesting, I thought you could do HDMI audio out on the Z9X, I'll have to go check that. To me the sweet spot with Zidoo is the Z9X.. nicer form factor for a rack and also powerful enough for fast browsing.
Great video!!! Just like everyone else I would love to see a comparison between say a Z100Pro vs a Zappiti Neo. $1500 vs $450 seems like a no-brainer to go with the Zidoo but there's gotta be something i'm missing.
There are some differences, but until I get my hands on one I won't be able to do the review. I have experinced Zappiti on a number of occasions but not able to provide a lot of feedback other than to say, the cost difference doesn't imply reduced performance from the Zidoo.
I have 4k movies with 7.1 sound in qnap. Can I stream from qnap to zidoo? and which zidoo is the best for something like that?
Yes you can use QNAP to store your movie files. You could seriously use any of the Zidoo models and it will work perfectly well. I have both a Z9X and a Z1000 Pro in my home.
Can a Zidoo convert Dolby Vision (DV) to HDR10+ like the HDFury Vrroom can? My JVC NZ8 projector and Apple TV 4K can handle HDR10+, but my Arcam AVR30 receiver can’t. So I am looking for a device that can receive Audio from the ATV 4K and UHD Blu Ray player, and passes it on to the AVR30, but at the same time converts DV to HDR10+ and passes this video signal on to the JVC NZ8 projector.
The Zidoo won't convert into HDR10+ - it does support it but won't convert. The only conversion it will do is for VS10 engine for Dolby Vision content - but if you have a VRRoom you could essentially achieve the same thing.
You could use a nvidia shield with a external hard drive and play back dnlded , ripped contend hdr /Dolby vision / atmos / dtsx. For a fraction of the cost. Through kodi.
And there is no delay or load times.
I may need to make a video on this as I'm getting a lot of questions about it... I have the Shield Pro and Kodi. When I play the same 1:1 ISO rips from disk on the Shield, there are a number of differences. Overall, the browsing experience is not as good, it feels clunky and outdated - but this can be subjective. When it comes to playing a movie, it doesn't apply any advanced tone mapping like the Zidoo does, so Dolby Vision LLDV VS10 engine isn't there on the Shield Pro so the image looks quite flat by comparison. The audio as well was quite lackluster by comparison to the Zidoo. There was more channel separation and overall, the volume levels were better... The Shield felt quite muted - and yes pass through to my receiver is enabled. The Zidoo is a DEDICATED player, so there aren't any 3rd party apps to install, it has been designed just to play rips, but in the best possible way. I know how it may sound, I have been a PLEX/NAS user for a VERY long time and I still use my streamer boxes for other downloaded content like TV shows, but with movies, the Zidoo and Zappiti players handle things in a nicer way. There are negatives to these players, but they are more when comparing to "streaming". I'm honestly not trying to convince anyone to buy one, I get no commissions or was paid for this video, I just was shocked at how much I really enjoyed the experience of this player over one from a streamer.
Sponsored content usually doesn't make such wild claims, but this dude's video and his comment takes the cake for total lack of objectivity.
Are you able to plug in a headphone DAC for example via USB?
On the NEO Alpha and the UHD3000 I believe you can do that - although they both have higher end DACs in these units hence the increased cost.
Cool vid, I've been doing the same thing for years using my oppo 203, use dvdfab to rip movies to main movie only, get rid of everything you don't need, but if you can't afford expensive players, plex does exactly the same thing for free
Plex/Kodi do "similar" things, but the whole purpose of this video was to show 1:1 rips of a disk on a dedicated media player, not a streamer box like shield or apple tv :)
Currently have a Zidoo X20 pro.....will be selling for the Neo X. Cannot wait!!
Nice that thing is a beast!
@@BuildMontage $2699 and expensive, but it was $2999, so $300 off. Won't upgrade ever again.
I like the Z in the name, but I've been playing off ISO's off my discs on my HTPC (from old gaming pc) for a while
Just received my uhd 5000, but doesn't stay on when try to turn it on, Nothing is happening. I haven't even done the initial setups yet. Any ideas? Thanks
I would contact Zidoo support or the person you bought it from. I don't know what that may be.,
Hi Tony! I have also a Zidoo and a Epson 9300 and wonder what setting you have to use the V10 engine :-)?
Which Zidoo do you have? I think you should be able to see my settings in the video if you pause.
@@BuildMontage I have the Z9X :-)!
I think it’s different but I’ll check it out and let u know
Thanks for the invite. I'll come over and listen. I'll bring popcorn and steaks.
What are the benefits when you compare it to a Plex Server ? Thanks
I'm using a Zidoo Z9S with a Gigabit Ethernet connection and generally it works great. But in some 4K ISO rips, I see extreme stuttering due to buffering. One such movie is Shazam 4K and it's unwatchable. This does not happen with all movies, but it happens with more than a few.
Does the new player solve this problem?
You shouldn't be getting any stuttering at all if your pullilng from a NAS across a 1Gbps network (local switch) It is literally 1/10 of the max bandwith. I experiecned full bandwidth and no stuttering at all on any of the rips - including Shazam and The Suicide Squad which is around 90Mbps. The Z1000 Pro and UHD3000 both had zero problems but I do have a pretty beefy enterprise network at home as well.
@@BuildMontage Yes, I’m trying to figure out what the issue is as well. If it matters, the NAS and the Zidoo are connected to different Switches but in the same network. I will experiment with moving the NAS to the same switch as the Zidoo and see if the stuttering continues.
That should help
Zidoo is definitely the way to go!
Is the UHD3000 available to purchase in the US? And other than the XLR/Audiophile enhance components and power supply, does the Z1000 includes the same HDR tone mapping capabilities as the UHD3000?
Thanks for the great review!
From what I can tell, yes, same exact features, same processor and gpu, 2gb less RAM, and the DAC for high-quality audio. The LLDV VS10 engine is identical. I have played both and notice no visible or audible difference between the two players.
@@BuildMontage Awesome! Thanks for the quick reply!
Great video! Q: Is there something similar for streaming? Like Netflix, Amazon, HBO, etc. ... I'd love that.
Streamfab or anystream
Is there a shuffle and auto play feature?
Nice! I have my eye on these! Dune HD looks nice with support for apps but the interface and usability don't look as good as the Zidoo.
Did you try the Mobile APP control?
Amazing tablet control instead of a universal remote would be very nice for what I have in mind for my next setup.
Also... what made you choose the Z1000 Pro model?
Thanks for sharing!
Yes the mobile app is a little limited. It has ip control and you can get an excellent experience from it. I chose the z1000 pro because cost and performance was perfect for me.
Hello, can this player read movies in dolby vision, the remuxes in mkv container? What about BDMV directories of movies with dual layer dolby vision? BDMV folder with menus? Lossless audio like TrueHD or DTS HD Master Audio?
Yes it does play Dolby Vision and read the BDMV folders. You get true lossless audio through bitstream passthrough to your processor.
@@BuildMontage thanks for the reply, it does play double layered dolby vision from BDMV folder like the Oppo 203 and its clones?
Hello! I'm planning to buy a Zidoo media player, but I can't decide between Zidoo Z2000 Pro and Zidoo Z2600. Can you or somebody help me? Does somebody can explain the pros and cons of each model apart from the difference in price?
My honest opinion here is they are pretty much all the same, except you get more or less hard drive bays. If that's something you need that's the differintiating factor. As I use a NAS I am happy using the Z9X Pro in my setup - it works just as well as the flagship. If you want 2 channel music playback you need to go with a higher model but the truth is, they all perform pretty much the same for movies.
@@BuildMontage Thanks for your help
Just some questions for one old video freak like me. What about HD or even SD material? How does it look on the Zidoo? I really have a lot of older movies on my NAS. But they are not 4k. Nvidia Shield is maybe good for me. But the Zidoo looks much nicer.
Zidoo has options for SDR and 1080p content. I know people that use it for bluerays as well as UHD.
@@BuildMontage thanks