Hello to all visitors! Welcome back to the library, hope you are all having a nice weekend! In this tale we dive into Westfall, delving into all aspects of the zone, from the rise and fall of the Defias Brotherhood, to the near abandonded farmsteads and the stories of the people that once thrived here. There was a slight mishap with the release of this tale, the original thumbnail included the phrase "WoW's Most Innocent Villains", I was attempting to convey that the Defias are in that category but it slightly confused the matter. From the early response, at least I know that a tale like that would be of interest! 😂 Enjoy the tales of Westfall, glad to have you all back in the library 📚
Westfall is one of the first zones that made you really feel like you were having an impact on the world. Like you were a part of it. Canonically, it's actually your adventurer (along with some friends ofcourse) who, after piecing together all the clues and figuring out what was going on, tracked down the leadership of the Brotherhood and put an end to their violent ways. When you first walk into Westfall, you're still wet behind the ears, poorly equipped and barely aware of what you're doing, but when you leave after successfully having dealt with the Defias, you were someone of note. Your actions mattered and you've set things in motion that would be felt throughout many new expansions. Gotta love it for that. This has always been one of my favorite zones. The questing there is not the best (humans have it kinda rough from level 11 to 19-20, compared to night elves, dwarves and gnomes who can do that entire level bracket in a single zone), but the story behind those quests is far superior.
We the player canonically defeated Deadmines and VC infront of his daughter . Nowadays I feel some kinda way about it , just because VanCleef wasn't such a bad guy , couldn't blizzard had sent him too the stockade instead 😕
@@joezar33 Well it's the tragedy that makes it so impactful, Van Cleef was a good man, he was right and it was Stormwind that was being manipulated by Lady Onyxia that was wrong. One of the best parts is when you're doing the Onyxia quest chain and you unveil her, there's several quests that deal with her in her human form as Lady Prestor and I just thought it was phenomenal that we uncover a huge plot of complete control of Stormwind and that all the problems of the Alliance essentially stem from it. Absolute mastery of story telling in Vanilla WoW.
Oh man, I always get so excited when you upload. Your voice is perfect for narrating these lore dives and feels so in-universe. Keep up the incredible work.
Hey! very entertaining video again! Only thing i would like to add for this story (i am aware i have spoken about westfall before) is how dire the crisis realy was. people actualy ate mud cakes... Yes it is exactly what it sounds like! All honor to the storytelling and coverage in a zone as important as this one realy is! Best wishes from Sweden!
The beginning of this sounded really familiar when you're talking about azeroth and everything, you just repeating parts of your dialogue from other videos. Not saying anything negative, it's a good way to save time. I just noticed that that's all I'm saying
Indeed, you are correct. When some zones are close to each other it is easier to use clips from other tales. The lore doesn’t change so it’s creating more work. I have focused on human lore a fair bit recently so I am going to switch it up and head back to Kalimdor. The tales already take anywhere between 40-60 hours to create, sometimes it’s not just easier but much faster to use already created content to setup. I’ll take onboard the feedback and do some switch ups
One of the marks of the Defias, other than their red bandanas, are tattoos on their rights hands, I myself, have the tattoo, it's a cog tattoo to show they were workers of the machine... :)
@TheKarazhanLibrary exactly :} I started off as a human rogue in the game way back in 2010 so the lore meant everything to me. Then growing up and working and dealing with society's views on the American working class and how much it feels like the world just sees us as mindless trash when we're literally just fighting for rights in a place we can't escape from... yeah, the tattoo means a lot to me.
My mistake - the initial thumbnail came across as if it was a countdown of the most innocent villains, not what I was trying to achieve. I was trying to say that the Defias are a on that list of most innocent villains, which they are but it was slightly confusing. I have just changed the thumbnail 📚
1) the whole stonemason story behind the Defias Brotherhood never made any sense. You wouldn't just hire them to build a city (which would take years) and then say "oopsy, we can't pay you". Each project would have to be funded in an ongoing way, and if you couldn't pay, it wouldn't be done. 2) the fact that you had to mention a Draenei spaceship travelling to another planet as part of the discussion of a rural farming zone demonstrates how far off the rails WoW has gone.
I really hate that it was Katarina Prestor the instigator of all this story. It was an awesome opportunity to give Alliance some gray or darker side to the lore and yet the writers just had to be like "ooops but it was the black dragonflight so she's to blame" as if humans themselves couldn't be evil, greedy, corrupt etc.
@@nonplayercharacter596 Marshal Garithos, Admiral Proudmore etc. There were evil characters among humans. It's not cliche, it's lazy writting to have 'baddie corrupting them'.
A mixture of in game knowledge, revisiting quests/story lines and research from online resources like wowpedia. A good example is the last section of this video is from the Dragonflight Human heritage armor questline.
@TheKarazhanLibrary great research. I will use your work to further the fan fiction I'm working on. I'm working on the Westfall murlocs right now on my other channel Next Network entertainment
Apologies - I have just changed the thumbnail, I was trying to convey that the Defias were a group of Azeroth's most innocent villains but it came across as if it was a countdown of the most innocent villains! Sorry for the initial confusion, it has been changed 📚
Hello to all visitors! Welcome back to the library, hope you are all having a nice weekend! In this tale we dive into Westfall, delving into all aspects of the zone, from the rise and fall of the Defias Brotherhood, to the near abandonded farmsteads and the stories of the people that once thrived here. There was a slight mishap with the release of this tale, the original thumbnail included the phrase "WoW's Most Innocent Villains", I was attempting to convey that the Defias are in that category but it slightly confused the matter. From the early response, at least I know that a tale like that would be of interest! 😂 Enjoy the tales of Westfall, glad to have you all back in the library 📚
Westfall is one of the first zones that made you really feel like you were having an impact on the world. Like you were a part of it. Canonically, it's actually your adventurer (along with some friends ofcourse) who, after piecing together all the clues and figuring out what was going on, tracked down the leadership of the Brotherhood and put an end to their violent ways.
When you first walk into Westfall, you're still wet behind the ears, poorly equipped and barely aware of what you're doing, but when you leave after successfully having dealt with the Defias, you were someone of note. Your actions mattered and you've set things in motion that would be felt throughout many new expansions.
Gotta love it for that. This has always been one of my favorite zones. The questing there is not the best (humans have it kinda rough from level 11 to 19-20, compared to night elves, dwarves and gnomes who can do that entire level bracket in a single zone), but the story behind those quests is far superior.
The zone truly is unparalleled, with some of the best storytelling in WoW to date! An excellent summary of the zone. Kings honor, friend 📚
We the player canonically defeated Deadmines and VC infront of his daughter . Nowadays I feel some kinda way about it , just because VanCleef wasn't such a bad guy , couldn't blizzard had sent him too the stockade instead 😕
@@joezar33 Well it's the tragedy that makes it so impactful, Van Cleef was a good man, he was right and it was Stormwind that was being manipulated by Lady Onyxia that was wrong. One of the best parts is when you're doing the Onyxia quest chain and you unveil her, there's several quests that deal with her in her human form as Lady Prestor and I just thought it was phenomenal that we uncover a huge plot of complete control of Stormwind and that all the problems of the Alliance essentially stem from it.
Absolute mastery of story telling in Vanilla WoW.
You’re so right
Oh man, I always get so excited when you upload. Your voice is perfect for narrating these lore dives and feels so in-universe. Keep up the incredible work.
Thank you for the comment! Plenty more to come my friend 📚
0:01 This video started on autoplay from another, and as a decades long Halo fan, hearing "Welcome back to the Library" hits differently. XD
Should’ve paid up 😤 Van Cleef was a hero
Binging these videos so I can better run my dnd campaign. Thank you so much for all this work
Hope you enjoy! 📚
Really enjoy your videos. Please keep them coming
Plenty more to come! Silverpine Forests next 📚
A other good vidoe dude keep you rock
Hey! very entertaining video again!
Only thing i would like to add for this story (i am aware i have spoken about westfall before) is how dire the crisis realy was. people actualy ate mud cakes... Yes it is exactly what it sounds like!
All honor to the storytelling and coverage in a zone as important as this one realy is!
Best wishes from Sweden!
Welcome back Mattias! Glad to see you back in the library my friend, thanks for the comments and the support 📚
what a treat
Westfall is so pretty man
One of the best zones in WoW for sure 📚
Yo! Can you(or have you already) do a deep lore video about the Karazhan raid and everything going on in there?
It's on the to do list! There is some Karazhan lore featured in our Duskwood video, you can check it out here: czcams.com/video/ABVORY6zeJE/video.html
@@TheKarazhanLibrary Awesome! I've already seen the Duskwood one, loved it :)
The beginning of this sounded really familiar when you're talking about azeroth and everything, you just repeating parts of your dialogue from other videos. Not saying anything negative, it's a good way to save time. I just noticed that that's all I'm saying
Indeed, you are correct. When some zones are close to each other it is easier to use clips from other tales. The lore doesn’t change so it’s creating more work. I have focused on human lore a fair bit recently so I am going to switch it up and head back to Kalimdor. The tales already take anywhere between 40-60 hours to create, sometimes it’s not just easier but much faster to use already created content to setup. I’ll take onboard the feedback and do some switch ups
One of the marks of the Defias, other than their red bandanas, are tattoos on their rights hands, I myself, have the tattoo, it's a cog tattoo to show they were workers of the machine... :)
Amazing! Brilliant idea for a tattoo! I believe it was also mandatory for all members and those without would not be accepted in! 📚
@TheKarazhanLibrary exactly :} I started off as a human rogue in the game way back in 2010 so the lore meant everything to me. Then growing up and working and dealing with society's views on the American working class and how much it feels like the world just sees us as mindless trash when we're literally just fighting for rights in a place we can't escape from... yeah, the tattoo means a lot to me.
Sylvanas and the tree better be on this list 😂
My mistake - the initial thumbnail came across as if it was a countdown of the most innocent villains, not what I was trying to achieve. I was trying to say that the Defias are a on that list of most innocent villains, which they are but it was slightly confusing. I have just changed the thumbnail 📚
1) the whole stonemason story behind the Defias Brotherhood never made any sense. You wouldn't just hire them to build a city (which would take years) and then say "oopsy, we can't pay you". Each project would have to be funded in an ongoing way, and if you couldn't pay, it wouldn't be done.
2) the fact that you had to mention a Draenei spaceship travelling to another planet as part of the discussion of a rural farming zone demonstrates how far off the rails WoW has gone.
The second point is fantastic! 😂 Of course Onyxia was manipulating the nobles, so it might have been because of that, but indeed you are correct!
There is a comic abou the stonemasons?
Not dedicated to them - they are just featured in flashbacks in the original World of Warcraft comics from 2008/2009
I really hate that it was Katarina Prestor the instigator of all this story. It was an awesome opportunity to give Alliance some gray or darker side to the lore and yet the writers just had to be like "ooops but it was the black dragonflight so she's to blame" as if humans themselves couldn't be evil, greedy, corrupt etc.
Humans bad 🥱
Turns out that's more cliche than having a baddie corrupting them
@@nonplayercharacter596 Marshal Garithos, Admiral Proudmore etc. There were evil characters among humans. It's not cliche, it's lazy writting to have 'baddie corrupting them'.
He really did nothing wrong
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Where did you get all this lore?
A mixture of in game knowledge, revisiting quests/story lines and research from online resources like wowpedia. A good example is the last section of this video is from the Dragonflight Human heritage armor questline.
@TheKarazhanLibrary great research. I will use your work to further the fan fiction I'm working on. I'm working on the Westfall murlocs right now on my other channel Next Network entertainment
Van Cleef did nothing wrong.
Where's Garrosh?
Apologies - I have just changed the thumbnail, I was trying to convey that the Defias were a group of Azeroth's most innocent villains but it came across as if it was a countdown of the most innocent villains! Sorry for the initial confusion, it has been changed 📚
VanCleef is right about the nobles