Busta Rhymes speaks facts about jamaica and jamaican !!!🙏🏾🇯🇲
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- I always tell people about Jamaica and it seems like in South Carolina no one is Vibin with the dance hall music as well as I wish they would but Busta Rhymes speaking some facts and I just wanted to share it with my family on CZcams hope you guys enjoy, let me know what you think about what he is saying and what you have to say about what you have experience from Jamaica or any Jamaican you have encountered in your life.🙏🏾🇯🇲
- Hudba
Notorious BIG was of jamaican decent too
He’s dad is black American!! Mom is Jamaican
And his mom raised him 🇯🇲
@Brooklyn Bully Ariel Make Them Mad
You right! This is why I google facts instead of listening to social media ,, people were saying his dad was black American because he’s dad abandon his family!! Until I googled his bio & it showed that both parents are Jamaican immigrants!!
@@javionriley8739 wrong his dad was born in Jamaica both his parents were jamaican but his father wasn’t around
@@roinretrospect8388 JaVion Riley doesn’t know what he’s talking about both of biggies parents were from jamaica not just his mom people need to get there facts straight
Let's be honest here, if you ever been to a juke joint down south you will understand were hip hop started, big speakers and all. Now the scratching on the turntables came from NY
You are right mam. I'm from NYC and know full well he's fvcking lying. My family had back yard and block parties with music, (Aint like we had musicians) til this day, one of my uncles has a jke joint in rural orangeburg, SC.
Dj kool herc started it and he bring our style back to new York from the 70s! We have being doing this from the 50's and 70's! Go do some research
@@miltonrobb3345 Ska and later Reggae, comes from Roscoe Gordon. In 1951 his record, "No More Doggin" was a #1 hit in Jamaica. Coxone Dodd used this rhythm for his 1st recording in Jamaica, "Easy Snapping". Both records are right here on CZcams, I already did the research! Something else, taking someone's music and not giving them credit is call stealing! That's becoming a pattern with your people, TEHERING FBA!
@@miltonrobb3345 DJ Herc did not create Hip Hop, he even said when he first moved to New York Black Americans put him on to the culture. What 12 year old you know bringing a culture to a whole other region by himself.
Yes! I have on my playlist Clement Dodd admitting to transporting Foundation American music and Amplifiers back to Jamaican.
Jamaican dem always make it known when somebody not 100% born raise Jamaican. Busta is Jamaican man. All u shoulda say
You already know we 🇯🇲 out here.🤷🏾♂️✊🏽🇯🇲🙏🏾
Jamaican culture 🙄 FOH
If Busta was born in Brooklyn that makes him an American of Jamacian ancestry.
But he's still wrong about Jamacians creating Hip Hop
I notice that in the 1990s Busta didn't build his Career off Reggae, Reggaeton or Dance Hall, and he wasn't promoting this out of Jamaica nonsense either because then he would have been checked. Busta built his Career off Black American Music......not Caribbean or AfroBeats.
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The first song Preacher's Delight, 1940 and Kool herc lie that's why he never say anything.
@@aaronvonblack1926he's lying 1940 preachers Delight , the rap song.
DJ Toasting and use of two turntables were first done by Black American DJ's. FBA DJ's Grandmaster Flowers, Pete “DJ” Jones and Disco King Mario are actually the founding fathers of Hip Hop. The Beat Break was created by Pete DJ Jones. Dj scratching was created by Grand Wizard Theodore. Mixing and blending was created by Cool DJ Dee. They are all Black Americans. FBA Disco King Mario was a pioneer of Hip Hop. By 1971 he was a prominent DJ of the Bronx. He lived in the Bronxdale projects where his parties made him well known locally. Bambaataa started out as an ASSISTANT to Mario.
It appears that the speaker may not have been alive during the time period being discussed. However, the use of two turntables in Jamaican culture predates the speaker's reference. Furthermore, Jamaican DJs were known to produce customizable records called dubplates through live recordings on vinyl, which differs from traditional tape recording methods. It is possible that the speaker is not well-informed on the subject. It should be acknowledged that individuals in their late sixties often possess more knowledge than those who lack experience.
Child all that you mentioned started in Jamaica, especially turntables
You love Jamaica but live in America?!
The same way that white Americans love Europe but live in the USA. The same way that I love Venezuela but live in the USA. The same way Chinese love China but live in the USA. The USA is a means to an end, nothing more.
The entire sound of hip-hop was created by black Americans. Kool Herc himself admitted that the sounds he used were American music.
Jamaicans sounds systems were playing African American music in the 1940s before ska and reggae was created. But the technology of the sound system (and toasting) is Jamaican. And that's what lead to hip hop.
At the end of the day, African Jamaixans, African Americans, African Boriqua we're the same people.
Big facts we are the same People. Out of many one people..
@@bl00dhoney no what leads to hip hop is the sound, not the display, anybody can put streroes outside, everybody can’t drop a 12 bar flow, we created that here in america. Herc himself explained that the music he played was black American, he just used to break it. It’s very disrespectful to openly try to steal someone’s culture like that, hell no.
@@dj-teacha_thepreacher6591 far from the truth, if we’re the same we wouldn’t be making distinctions between cultures and creations, it would just be black music, when that’s not the case, hip hop is black American music, told from the POV of black American men.
@@SOUFBRONXTAE learn to respect history and verifiable facts. A Jamaican born sound system selector created hip hop. African cultures (JA, DR, PR, BIM etc) in New York created hip hop culture. New York is an African city, an African Caribbean city. No sound system. No hip hop. No toasting. No hip hop.
Rap is music, Hip-Hop is a subculture. Rap started in the South, Hip-Hop started in New York. Rap is sometimes called Hip-Hop because it's the music of Hip-Hop.
Both are exclusively Foundational Black American creations.
Actually, “Rap” started in New York too. “Rap” is a Jive term and Jive comes from Harlem/Midwest...The music is Hip Hop music (even though its often called Rap). I think you meant that the tradition came from the south, youre correct. But it is more accurate to say both are exclusively Black Am cultural creations
@@jerseydevils9686 No, Rap is music that started in the South and Hip-Hop is a subculture that started in New York. Let me know if you need some early examples of rapping.
@@awesomeasever8370 That’s proto-rap. If you can provide evidence that syncopated rhymes or Toastin was called Rap (before Hip Hop) then You have a point and I’ll concede...“Rap is music that started in the south” there was no genre called Rap before Hip Hop/Rap
@@jerseydevils9686 Rapping is talking or rhyming syncopated to the beat of music, the words are spoken as opposed to being sung. Because the term "rap" didn't exist at the time doesn't mean they weren't rapping.
@@jerseydevils9686 Where something became an industry at and where it actually started is two different things.
Im on the west coast, in LA....we got alot of Jamaicans and garifuna people.....atleast once a week i hit up a jamaican spot for some brown stew chicken with the rice and peas....carribean food is UNDERRATED
Where do you go in LA ?
In god it is 😩😩✊🏽🇯🇲
I’m feeling your video bro 🙏 One love 🇯🇲🇬🇧
Much respect ✊🏽 to you . One ❤️🙏🏾
Y'all know better than to tell lies about historical achievements. Hip-hop smoothly transitioned from funk and soul, repeat value was more of a factor in the sound bar. Hip-hop came from black folks who are in America. Folks such as James brown, and many others are the direct creators of hip-hop not Jamaicans. Jamaicans played reggae for the most part.
He contradicted himself. The nigga was doing dancehall music but he played it differently and that made it hip hop? GTFOH!!
They love to leave out the part where even cool herc admits he didn't invent hip hop,
Im jamaican from Uk we didnt create hip hop READ OR LOOK UP HISTORY there is a song called the judge 1968 or 9 he is rhyming but there is NO evidence of Jamaicans doing that at that time SKA was the ting coming into rock steady early 70's look up U roy and early dancehall hip hop is already established ie the sugar hill gang HOWEVER Busta is rite on what he says about music in big speakers sound systems you can look at ska sound systems from circa 1960's and we bought that along with outdoor party carnival thing which kool herc done along with others
Much Love for telling the Truth.
@@onenone3209 Da nada, but if someone asks did we influence hip hop YES from kool herc Slick rick(originally frm uk) KRS1 most of the 80's rappers and producers Pete rock Heavy d to this day but the heartbeat is Africa to USA then it has bounced between west indies and England for the last 60 years. It shows how great BLACKS are AS ONE GLOBALLY
@@rickyjames4228 Gracias. Much love to Slick Rick he is one of our Icons he said in an interview he came to America as a nerd then soaked up American Black ADOS culture his story telling style comes from Spoonie Gee a Black American I can send you the link to the interview. They are all high level Hip Hop artist but they applied what they saw Black American ADOS people doing. We love them but they learned from Black American ADOS. 🙏 We were cut off from Africa when they sold US. We created something new from within the belly of the Beast.
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Lies you Jamaicans tell ! Dj Kool Herc says out his own mouth he adapted to Foundational black American culture. Hip hop comes from funk James brown do your due diligence
You all 2000 test tube babes think history started with you. There is no such thing as FBA in history. You are trying to spin it off FBI. Went from n-word, negro, colored, African American, and black.
🗣️say it louder for the people in the back 🤔
Did they get to the part where clement dodd where jamaica got there dancehall culture from American juke joints in the south
Dope to see bust embrace his jamaican roots
Yard man Fi life 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
Busta is a liar. HipHop started in America by Black Americans. You can listen to rap records on youtube right now from the early 1920s from artists such as Dewey Pigmeat Marham and the Jubalaires was one of the first rap groups. And before Herc did his thing in the Bronx, there was a black American named Mario King aka Disco King who raised the art of DJ-ing. Busta lost his damn mind.
Also the obvious thing is... if something began somewhere... why didn't it elevate there. For example... every form of music that Black Americans invented in America is still popular in America. I'll list them below..
Jazz
Opera
Rock n Roll
Heavy Metal
Rap
R and B
Blues
Country
Funk
Electronic
Soul
House
Barbershop Harmony
Human Beat Box ..and more!
@@arrellehnisrael8229 so why was Hip Hop founded in New York the place with the highest amount of Caribbean’s and not somewhere majority AA like Detroit or Philadelphia?
@@reemyonline369 lol... why wasn't it founded in Jamaica or on any other Caribbean Island?
Because hiphop was always in America before it was called hiphop.
Use logic and stop with the tribalism and stealing from us.
That's whitepeople sh17.
The problem is unlike West Indians... American blkpeople were always allowing people to participate in our culture... then they steal it and tell us we have no culture.
So now we are circling our wagons.
No hate. I love west Indians. Black Americans always loved our family of the diaspora but our live has been use against us and now the diaspora has been showing a lot of disrespect and utter contempt.
But we'll be fine when the liars and traitors die off. We always win these battles. Peace fam!
@@reemyonline369 bingo
I’m from jamaica queens..
And Jamaicans were and always were biiiig in da brrrronx!
Real reality talk mr Busta big up u self nuff nuff nuff time mi g
Hiphop is not Jamaican thats false
Yes it was it started out with Jamaicans in NYC
@@lauroboelhouwer7593 Yeah Jamaicans watching what Black Americans do. Yall lying about history just like the colonizers
@@lauroboelhouwer7593 fr no cap
DJ Kool Herc, the father of hip hop is Jamaican
Not false at all ..do yuh research boy
Yard man a run ting bless up to mi lion kool herc and busta 2 cool general zzz me likkle more🇯🇲😉🇯🇲🇯🇲😉🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
BIG UP USELF BUSTA...BRINGING EDUCATION BOUT DI MUSIC!!! NUFF RESPECT
Bomboclaat Jamaican rep Yoo done knw Seh one island one culture 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🔥🌊💪
🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲👍💯yard all di way🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲👍💯
Them just don’t know real thugs never forget where we come from.!!🙏🏾🇯🇲💪🏾💯
Busta was a dam baby in a crib when hiphop toke off😂 + why wasn’t he repin his flags back when his music was relavant???
& plz show & prove where dance hall is loved world wide🤣
Jamaicans are in competition w/ us for some reason. ✊🏽🇺🇸
Jealousy for sure.
@@77Creation Have you asked your people why you keep stealing from Jamaicans to stay relevant? Jamaicans will come back for what is rightfully theirs. I guess you all are no different than your white counterparts. Big culture vultures and appropriators
I love this, I'm a DJ based on in California and I have been playing Reggae since the 90's. Nothing like playing for Jamaicans. Big up Busta
Hip hop has nothing to do with dance hall
@@bigal3619 Really, maybe you should do your homework.
@@gregoryspevack2263 I did .. black Americans influenced and created hip hop ..
@@bigal3619 All of the pioneers of Hip Hop were from the Caribbean
@@NativeNomads10 nope all black Americans
Bruh busta rhymes was a born Jamaican n went to the states couple years ago
I’m full blown Jamaican and he may have been born in Jamaica but he Jamaican.🤷🏾♂️ he have the blood in him but not the sprite of the land.
Find out where Sir Coxone Dodd got his ideas from to have a mic man. Being that his was the first sound to have mic man. Check out his documentary and you will hear him admit he heard things on American radio, which gave him the idea to have a mic man in his team. Not taking anything away from anybody's influence, but you gotta find out who influenced the influencer.
Jamaicans are so damn jealous of us, man.
These are NOT facts, they are LIES! Jamaican music had NOTHING to do with the creation of Hip-Hop WHATSOEVER!
Stop complaining you black americans. Jamaica helped birthed hip hop as well as the latinos or latinas. merengue started in Caribbean 1700s
@@kevonedon6872 stop lying
that jamaican shit has nothing to do with hiphop.. nobody tryna hear that jamaican shit honestly
@@kevonedon6872🧢😂😂😂😂
Yah yarrdy big up u self much blessings
Already know mi g 🇯🇲🇯🇲
I know the tree in Jamaica fire but damn y’all smoked out like this now? 🤣 dumbest $hit I ever heard.
You forget that reggae producers where taking Motown sound and making it there own then dance hall took that and made it what it was...reggae artist and reggae doesn't get the respect that it deserves.
Especially the artist that have passed on the music industry needs to recognize
This is the biggest cap jamaicans never started rap lmaoooo
No we didn't, however we did influence it. Just like rhythm and blues influenced our music. Rap was different from hip hip which was a sub culture. It eventually got integrated as one genre. Even to this day it is sometimes separated where u have a hip hop artist and a rapper. Point is hip hop began somewhere and if you speak to the persons who were around during that time you will realize they all agree Clive Campbell from Jamaica brought something different. All in all its all Black culture, it doesnt really matter where it began it's belongs to all of us as a people 1 love.
@@Tr33Shade sorry but while you can like that it’s black culture? It’s still black American just as much as dancehall is yours.
Pure cap
They know they just keep lying about the shit lol
@@Tr33Shade most of the jamaicans been saying hip pop came from dancehall which everyone knows is pure lies. Lol haven't u jamaicans realised how your embarrassing yourself with these nonsensical stories?
New subscriber King...Yu hear dat🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
There was the few hip-hop artist back in the day that was Jamaican backgrounds like Chubb Rock and Special Ed
Jamaican music coming from rythem & blue
It did have an influence on Jamaican music your right about that we influenced each other
@@billpeart4809 Jamaican music come from rhythm & blues which is black Americans music hip hop music is James brown music you have rapper in the 1900 that was rapping when Kool herc Extended the brakes beat he got that ideal from black Americans because black Americans dance to certain part of the beat that spark the ideal of hop
@@washonmontgomery946. Not true. Original reggae was born from drums and chanting, Started by rastas. Nothing to do with rhythm and blues. Later on some artists fused r&b, but this certainly wasn’t the origin. Nice try though. 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
@@Pressure-xs6nq the history of Jamaicans music started from playing the pan that came from trinidad the Jamaican listen to alot of black Americans music such as rhythm & blues jazz funk r&b they try to Imitate black Americans how we sing how we dance how we dress how we play our music the Jamaican try to make black Americans music the structure of Jamaicans music is black Americans music the beat is played different and the instrument is played different but its still black Americans music Look up Bob Marley he is saying the same thing I'm saying they have a document of where Jamaicans music come from so do your history
@@washonmontgomery946 you’re slightly confused. First of all I’m talking about REGGAE specifically. You keep using the term’ Jamaican music’, which is somewhat misleading. YES Jamaicans were singing calypso (originally from Trinidad) however The origin of reggae is completely separate, whereby (as I said before) Rasta’s were playing drums and chanting. This is obviously information you are not privy to, as you seemingly obtain your history on music from Google. Reggae is Completely Organic with zero influence from Trinidad or the US. However, As it became mainstream, the artists incorporated a rhythm and blues singing style, but still maintained an aspect of chanting which developed into’ toasting’, which hip hop refers to as MCing. If I’m honest, I don’t believe either culture stole from the other as regards to MCing, but who cares. Borrowing from genres is not an issue. Just as reggae was influenced by rhythm and blues, hip hop and R&B borrows reggae beats, dancing and stage performance styles, etc all of the time. So please...do YOUR history. 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
Hip-Hop music as a genre was started by Black Americans. Busta Rhymes fails to mention Fatback Band, Sugar Hill Gang, The Furious, The Treacherous Three, Funky 4+1, The Sequence, Winley Sisters, etc..,
Busta was telling the truth
It all started from Cool Herk. Everyone else was after, it was herk that brought DJ'ing from Jamaica and into the streets of america. Just a simple research will show you the truth. So yea others perfected the craft made it what it is today, but it all began from somewhere and that is from Jamaica.
All those early crew came from jazz, rhythm and blues which came from Ska which is from Jamaica. Descendants of African gods .
@Jay Aleem they trolling
@Micheal Martin Lies there were already Disco DJ Culture in the Bronx before Herc got to America stop lying
I didn't know Busta Rhymes Jamaican 🇯🇲 Wooow I 💗 reggae music & I didn't know Special Ed ( I got it made) , Heavy D , , Biggie, Pepa from Salt N Pepa 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲 & Kid from Kid N Play is Half-Jamaican 🇯🇲🇯🇲. I have love for 🇯🇲 no matter what
Don't forget, Chubb rock..
His parents are Jamaican..his roots
The first sound system that played in a big event was 1958....King stitch.
Tell them busta rymes teach these audience that dont know jamaica the home of reggae /Dancehall give us credits for our Culture
I AM LED TO RAP AS A JAMAICAN AND THE FACT THAT MOST AMERICANS HATE TO GIVE US JAMAICANS CREDIT FOR SUCH CREATION I GOTTA REPRESENT THROUGH RAP.
YOU PEOPLE DID NOT , I REPEAT , DID NOT CREATE HIP HOP, HIP WAS INVENTED BEFORE HE CRAWLED OFF YOUR ISLAND. SORRY, BLACK AMERICANS TAUGHT HIS BLACK ASS THIS GENRE...BUSTA 🤣 CANCELED
Bullshit! Rap/hip hop is Black American culture. FBA'S have always influenced Caribbean culture. It's our music that the world has accepted as the most popular. Our artists are the biggest and most popular. It's our music genres that everyone uses to eat off of. Our people invented Rock, Jazz, Blues, R & B, Gospel, Techno, Funk, Disco, House, Go Go, Bee bop, Swing, Zydeco, Ragtime and yes Rap & Hip hop. Busta is full of shit!
Jamaicans didn’t create it 😂
Nigga, then give us credit for Dancehall, reggae and ska because y’all niggas would still be listening Mento if U Roy, Count Matchuki, and Bob Marley wasn’t listening to and imitating us.
We been rapping before y’all even knew what it was. Do your research before you come on line lying in all caps.
@@thadon1067I’m Jamaican and I agree we didn’t create it, but Jamaicans help in the development of hip hop significantly that cannot be denied.
How was Dancehall the foundation of HipHop when the foundation of HipHop started in the late 1960’s, early 70’s and the foundation of Dancehall began in the late 70’s and didn’t really take off until 1982? Jamaicans be lying. Also, Cool Herc was doing what was already being done in the United States with DJ Flowers, DJ Hollywood, etc
Because back then it wasn't called dancehall in Jamaica, it was called toasting on the mic with legends like Daddy u Roy , alchapone big youth and many others, seems like you only know shabba ranks, yellow man and such from the 80s do your research dude Jamaica have over 6 different gener that started on the island, they set trends and change culture's where ever they set foot, dancehall gave birth to hip hop it's no joke
@@subcribe704 I’ve watched so many documentaries on Jamaican music and Dancehall. The foundation of Jamaican music came from Black American music even Toasting. 1950s deejay toasting was developed by Count Matchuki and he developed the concept by listening to American radio and he studied African American jive over the music while selecting and playing R&B music. Do your research Jamaicans contribute absolutely nothing to American culture you copied it and then lied about where the foundation came from 🤦🏾♀️
@@Joi55 someone take this fool phone away.
@@janelr1134 Sorry, not going to HAPPEN 🙅🏾♀️ 😜
@@janelr1134 mad because he’s speaking truth?
Foundational Black Americans has not benefited anything from jamaican culture.All the elements of hip hop started right here.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣y’all get so mad…..it’s entertaining
@@nikchar4642 ikr and I’m Black American. These niggas love denying that they got influence from other blacks 😂
@@nikchar4642 it's true we further advanced it foh
Jamaicans know they hated rap music with a passion - that’s why the claim that they invented it is funny 😄
It's funny how people to say that and don't even consider rap music,every culture gets an influence from each other that doesn't mean they created it
Stacking speakers on top of each other and Kool Herc being Jamaican isn't substantive enough. Especially since hip hop sounded more like Disco when it first came out. Hip Hop would have already been a thing in Jamaica if this were true. Toasting and Rhyming aren't the same.
Jamaicans did not start a hip-hop culture!!! Hip hop came from disco and Funk two foundational black American genres. It had nothing to do with Dancehall.
Exactly
Jamaicans played a role in hip hop culture. Don’t deny their influence
@@rickyronny4019 what role did they play
@@kareemsupremet.v.5189 nigga go look it up on the Wikipedia. They even state that Jamaicans had an influence on it. Tf u salty for
You spitting Facts 🔥 💯
Big up yuhself bro
Most of what he said was lies. We already had a sound system culture in America. In fact our sound system culture BIRTHED Jamaican sound system culture. Stop the culture appropriation!
Everybody knows this they just keep lying about the shit. Lol 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Shit gettin weird
@@rocsteadyh.o.g4247 😂😂😂it shol is
cap
I would disagree there’s a bigger history behind Jamaica and the whole Caribbean. Which connects to Africa which help birth America. So no there were truths spoken.
Kool Herc is Jamaican. He brought the sound system to the Bronx in New York and adapted it to Black American culture, playing Funk and Disco records. He was the DJ who brought out the first MCs. So Busta is right. Hip Hop had a Jamaican foundation blended with Afro-American influences.
INCORRECT‼️
Dj disco Mario king predates kool herb and kool herc admits it comes from James brown
Kool Herc doesn’t even make these claims.
Wrong!!!🤦🏾♂️ straight cap, Kool Herc himself said he DIDN'T create hip hop, it was already started when he got here at 12.
@@js-zf1fu He's called Disco for a reason and not even him can take credit for Hip hop. Also, he didn't predates Kool herc
Rap did not come from dance hall it came from funk records. Big herb himsef said he got inspiration from James brown. If rap came from Jamaica why are they not doing hip hop in Jamaica and why can’t you here the dancehall breaks in old hip hop records. Hip hop was built on looping breaks from funk recordd & then rapping over them. Also there wasn’t just one nigga that invented hip hop
Facts brother... facts
Thank you Busta Rhymes you are the reason why I rap yet I live in Jamaica.
Busta's lying ass has a lot of nerve. He's sitting here trying to claim American culture. Our music is what Jamaicans used to create their music. It was Jamaicans copying American r & b, jazz, blues and funk. Jamaicans have been listening to Black American music long before Reggae, Ska, Rock Steady and Dancehall ever existed.
Ask Busta Rhymes why can't Jamaicans access there own beaches..🤐 He knows he can't speak on REAL JAMAICANS ISSUES.
The argument that one Jamaican created Hip Hop is grossly overstated.
Facts
The concept came from Jamaica go study your rap history!
@@s.k.pmusicpromotion1627 Hip Hop comes from soul/funk/ disco/ jazz, and Americans have been rapping since the 20’s. Hip Hop has ZERO Caribbean influence. It sounds NOTHING like anything that was going on in the Caribbean/Jamaica. If the Caribbean was so influential, then the average listener would be able to hear the influence, easily. But no, instead, you can easily hear Funk, you can easily hear Jazz, you can easily hear Soul, you can easily hear Disco. You cannot play a single record from the start of Hip Hop, and say it sounded ANYTHING like Caribbean music. The drum patterns is funk, the cadence is AAVE, not patois, the style is rap, not “toasting”. Do me a favor, go find a toasting record for me, look at the date, then go listen to the Memphis Jugg Band, Louis Jordan, Can Calloway, or the Jubilaries, then tell me which is older, rapping or toasting? Even though toasting comes from Jamaicans emulating American DJs. The term “Rap” comes from the early 1900’s. The definition NEVER changed, meaning, rapping was the SAME THEN as it is NOW! This is the 2nd time that Busta Rhymes done made a fool of himself on camera, spewing misinformation. The first time is when he called himself giving a history lesson on The Father, Clarence 13x, and the Nation of Gods and Earth. It was cringe worthy.
@@born_supreme all this sounds good but it’s not facts ! I didn’t say reggae influence the start of hip hop I said dancehall clearly you don’t know what dancehall is and how it started and what was going on in America at the time you need to do more research . You need to read up on the father of hip hop and where he came from , check when he arrived in America and what kind on music you where listening to and you will clearly see the truth. Jazz , soul, disco influenced r and b and pop music , it’s only been since the late 80 s early 90s hip started to take influence from pop and r and b !
@@s.k.pmusicpromotion1627, I’m not sure if you’re responding to the right person, because I didn’t even mention reggae or dancehall, although I am an avid fan of both genres, fyi. I said Hip Hop sounds NOTHING LIKE *ANYTHING* FROM THE CARIBBEAN. That includes reggae, dancehall, ska, calypso, etc. There is no father of Hip Hop. Herc didn’t do anything that wasn’t already being done. Herc Americanized himself, and played our music, not Jamaican music. There’s a reason why Herc doesn’t sound like a Yardie, it’s because he purposely Americanized himself. Those are his words, not mine. He didn’t play any Jamaican music, because it wasn’t accepted. Those are Herc’s words, not mine. Herc’s biggest influence was James Brown. Those are Herc’s words, not mine. It is clear that your knowledge of Hip Hop history is lacking, my brother. Just by you saying that Hip Hop didn’t take from R&B until the 80’s and 90’s is proof enough. Hip Hop IS R&B!!! If you listen to all of the early Hip Hop records, they’re rapping over R&B beats. The foundation of Hip Hop is funk, and funk is a SUB-GENRE of R&B. Pop is not even a real genre. There is no such thing as Pop. Pop is just short for popular music, which basically means that it is music that’s primarily for radio play. Michael Jackson is considered the king of pop, but Michael Jackson’s music is R&B!!! James Brown is called The Godfather of Soul, but Soul Music is R&B. The very first commercial successful rap song, Rapper’s Delight by Sugar Hill Gang, was released in 1979!!! That song is literally rapped over the beat of the song Good Times by Chic. Do me a favor, and go look up what kind of music group Chic is. I’ll save you your time, they’re an R&B group. Pete DJ Jones, a DJ who proceeds Herc, who is also a foundational person of Hip Hop said plain and simple, Hip Hop is R&B music. Everything I say can be cited and backed! If you’d like, I can provide the source to any and everything I say.
By the way the fast style was originated by Peter King from Saxon sound. Papa SAN said that he was also influenced by uk Jamaican DJ mc’s he and Stitchie dropped it yard we were listening to Peter king, Smiley culture, Asha Senator, Papa Levi, Daddy Colonel, Tippa irie Daddy Sandy.....,Real talk history dancehall
The fast style came from The Treacherous 3 including Kool Moe Dee and Spoonie G song called New Rap Language google it. Black Americans created Hip Hop Facts.
@@onenone3209 fast syle came out 1982
@@onenone3209 therefore correct yourself
Nigga, Jamaica has been copying us ✊🏽🇺🇸 since they got radios.
@@77Creation And you have been coping Jamaican since you RnB died
Busta Keep telling the truth bro...They late or in denial....They don't understand that we as Jamaicans understand both cultures completely but some of them can't understand Carribean and even some African culture because of the language barrier....The interesting thing is that almost all Carribean people and Africans can understand each other even if we speak in our individual dialect...But for some reason a larger percentage of AA can't understand the rest of the black world languages a percentage that is so large that I'm not comfortable with.....Well....Here comes the flood.
Y’all are the same ppl us black Americans are different..
We gotta keep it real man. I gotta love for Jamaicans. Because the real Jamaicans fuck with me. But at the end of the day. On my soul. There are no group of people anywhere flyer than a African American. We dominate in everything. Even the Numbers game. The Italian Mafia git from African Americans. Unless they any other ethnicity born in the United States of America. African Americans are like the ancient Egyptians. Or the sumerians. Na-meen. People need to just keep it real sometimes.
They also was rapping before hip hop was created.
They better put some respect ✊🏽 on our name.🇯🇲🙏🏾✊🏽
That’s not true.
Chanting and/or toasting is not rapping. They didn’t always rhyme. And that didn’t come before people like Dolemite.
False Black 🇺🇸 been rapping since the 1930s busta way off
This is actually false. Rap was created by Black Americans. We can trace rap back to the Blues (Talking Blues), Jazz (Scat-Singing), The Dozen Tradition, Testifying, and Signifying. The first MC's in Hip-Hop were Black Americans. Coke La Rock, MC Sha-Rock, Grandmaster Melle Mel, Grandmaster Caz, Busy Bee Starski, DJ Hollywood, Kurtis Blow, MC Debbie D, Sequence, etc..,
Straight 🤡!!! 00:50 he said only thing that changed was the music! So he is literally contradicting himself in under a minute.
If a Jamaican created Hip Hop then what Jamaican artist is the most sampled in Hip Hop? Name the various phrases from Reggae, Dance hall or Jamaican patois that were adopted by Hip Hop. Can you show any Jamaicans rapping and break dancing in 30s and 40s way prior to Hip Hop? The fact is that James Brown is the most sampled artist ever as it relates to Hip Hop. The lingo of Hip Hop comes from Black American vernacular. And Black Americans have been rapping an break dancing since the 30's and 40's. And there were several Black American DJ's involved with the foundation of Hip Hop way before Kool Herc.
Few word, bam bam, what a bam bam, is the most sampled song in history and it's Jamaican. Jamaicans have started suing multiple Americans in the music industry and some have gotten millions so far. Even now you all dance like Jamaicans. You guys have some serious appropriation issue.
Jamaicans did not invent nor did they influence hip hop. Black people in America been doing the shit he talking about. Hip hop started in the south Bronx. 100% Black American invention. Dancehall came from them imitating early blues and r&b
Yup. I am Jamaican and YUP, this is a REACH.
Black Americans weren't even one of the early pioneers. Jamaican music gave birth Hip hop
@@Xprime-iu8dr Jamaican music came from black American music. All the genres were created by us. Even the founders of reggae say they got it from black Americans
Hip-Hop isn't a genre of music...it's a 1970s Bronx subculture that died out in the early 80s. Rapping/Rap was a part of Black American society DECADES before the Hip-Hop movement existed.
YO STOP LYING
For all those disputing all about where it began. Watch the documentary on CZcams Hip Hop DNA. The Caribbean influence alot of genres in America. But like I said check it out. Here it from the people who were around and knew the people who started it all.
Like what music from carribean influenced America?
Hip Hop is a 1970s Bronx sub-culture that died out in the early 80s. Rapping/Rap was developed by Black AmericanDOS during the post emancipation era and it's currently the world's most popular genre of music.
I didn't know he was from Jamaica!
👻😨LOOK AT HIM🤤
@@cherokeeshabazz8199 The nigga black. On mute, he could be from anywhere.
Ive realized more and more that the groups of people who claim to be sooo “prideful” actually arent at all. Based on actions, its just a bunch of false pride to overcompensate...Deal with your insecurities elsewhere, instead of trying to claim other people’s cultural accomplishments to feel better. Buddy just said hes been trynna get people in the south to rock with Dancehall and most aint budgin...But you think you influenced us at a time niggas was tellin Herc to “turn that trash music off”?... G’way an killat. Yall dont even know the history of your OWN music genres, stop trying to tell us about ours. You gon open up that can of worms and regret it
Nigga you don't know shit, we understand our own music and hip hop is a child of dancehall and our pide isn't fake nigga, Mexicans, Jamaicans Porto Ricans etc our pride is very powerful and real
@@dominicpersaud1155 Pull ya skirt up darling, i really does this. If you think that Hip Hop is a child of Dancehall then you dont know your own history, sad. Yall didnt even appreciate your own music, you had to ride people in other countries for the sauce lol. What i see is not pride, thats over compensation. Ska is the child of R&B/Jazz. Rocksteady=Soul. Reggae is the child of R&B/Soul. Toastin/DeeJaying? Child of American DJs. Wouldnt even play Mento on the turntables lol. Even dub was influenced by outsiders. Funny thing is none of this pride talk didnt come until after y’all started sucking off other people’s culture. The Mexicans actually have reasons to be proud, somewhat. Ricans in the same boat as Jamaicans musically. Go deal with ya lil man complex elsewhere
@@jerseydevils9686 exactly, I caught that too. He said he’s trying to get Americans into dancehall. Yet they also say hip hop comes from dancehall. Make that make sense.
@@jerseydevils9686 There's literally a video of older Jamaican artists from the 50s and 60s saying this 😂.
@@devsa17 They dont wanna hear it. They think theyre right
Dam right
In rap based off the lyrics. In U.S.A. or FBA it talks about the Poverty/ Struggle/ etc. So turning something Negative to make it money from it covers everywhere.
In Jamaica the Dj’s talk about it as well but with a different Riddim and accent or dialect. Ninja man/ pappa San/ bounty/ Tony rebel etc.
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I hate when people assimilate then claim when they get into position that's y I seriously feel like we should gatekeep our creative property I seen multiple videos where Jamaican elders say they got everything from us because when they listened to the radio all they heard was us dance hall came from jazz and blues when we started rapping and doing the hip hop thing y'all changed y'all style up as well we been rapping sense the 30s and even in the 1600s Spaniards said we were rhyming and chanting this shi is indeginous American culture tryna hijack our shi y'all better come correct the pretending to like us to steal our shi that shi over with
I hate when black American singers take from Jamaican culture, then Americans claim they started it. No Jamaican elder said American created anything. Influences by in different than creating. You all have been stealing from Jamaica for years. Each time you want inspiration you guys dip into Jamaican culture to create hits. Bet you all don't realize how much you all Dance like us now huh? You complain about Wyt people appropriating your culture but you guys have been for years doing the same to us.
Now the Internet is readily available and Jamaicans have already started suing you all and claiming millions due to song sampled or copied illegally.
The first hip hop song was King Tim III by the Fatback Band (African Americans)
The first commercially successful rap song was Rapper's Delight by The Sugarhill Gang (African Americans)
Just some fun facts for all you Jamaicans from an African American...
The pioneers of hip hop in the mainstream are Run DMC, LL Cool J and MC Hammer (African Americans)
New York hip hop music was originally based on sampling old Jazz and Soul music (Genres Created By African Americans)
The pioneer of lyrical rap is Rap is Rakim (African American)
The inventor of the remix is Diddy (African American)
The pioneers of West Coast Rap is Dr Dre and Ice-T (African Americans)
The pioneers of Female as we know it today hip hop are Lil Kim, Missy Elliot and Lauryn Hill (African Americans)
The first hip hop TV show was the Fresh Prince starred Will Smith (African American)
The inventors of New Jack Swing are African American
The inventors of gangsta rap are African American
The first inventors of trap are African American
Diss tracks were invented by African Americans
Battle rap was invented by African Americans
The first mogul of hip hop was Russell Simmons (African American)
The first billionaires of hip hop were Jay-Z, Dr. Dre and Diddy (African Americans)
For all you Jamaicans and thirsty brits out there who claim hip hop isn't American...the original inventors of Reggae have admitted publicly that they were influenced by African American Jazz musicians...so if u say hip hop came from Reggae...technically we can say comes from African American music too.....if u actually think that Jamaicans started hip hop just look up a song called King Tim III by The Fatback Band...it predates rap and it clearly is the first hip hop song ever made
ill make another videos just for you tonight because you guys need to do a lill more digging simple close minded people
Preach
that song was made in 1979, the Jamaicans was doing they thing in the streets of ny before that. But as i said music grows organic someone always get their idea from somewhere else and make it into their own form
@@funnymoments224 James Brown and George Clinton were doing their thing long before any Jamaican ever thought of doing their thing on the streets of NY. What do you mean by that anyways? Do you mean the "Jamaicans who assimilated into African American culture?" Because all they were doing was sampling Soul, Funk, R&B and disco records. ALL of those genres were created by African Americans. Unless you have video, audio or written evidence, your claim reads like a West Indian fairytale. "Rapper's Delight" has absolutley NO traits of Jamaican culture in it whatsoever
@@thecass4954 rappers delight was literally another American groups song first they just rapped over the beat got sued and lost
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I ask you all as Jamaicans, how would you feel if I were to come to your homeland and say you don’t have culture. Yes hip hop was created by Kool Herc and yes there are Caribbean and Latin roots but hip hop culture is American. What records was Herc catching the break in?
Dude it’s bigger than a stupid break !! This goes back to Harlem Renaissance!! (Black American),
@@javionriley8739 exactly just one example
What are the caribbean and latin roots? I’m trynna see something...
@@jerseydevils9686 the two turntable setup originated from dancehall. And kool Herc was also Jamaican American. Latin idk
@@dawrldizmike
The turntable was invented in Detroit Michigan in the 1930s 🤣🤣🤣, what are you talking about!! Jamaica doesn’t even have the natural raw materials to produce such technologies!! you’ve had DJ in both black & white American culture since the era of American radio!! Once again y’all copy off of us!! Those DJ styles were created by black Americans in the late 1950s in NYC, y’all participated in what in invented & that’s it
Growing up in the 90's I can assure you that I have NEVER been to a house party ,BBQ, Birthday Party, or any kind of event where they said "PUT ON THE FIYA CARRIBBEAN MUSIC" as a matter of fact people would be ready to shoot the DJ if they played that BS
Smh look at y’all lame asses hating on Caribbeans. They set a lot of trends. Y’all stay looking down on them. Respect our Caribbean bruddas
Facts
You grew up in the 90’s and when a Shaabaa ranks track started playing, the party didn’t get lit ? That’s a lie .. and that other reggae song by dawn penn “ you don’t love me “. You didn’t go to parties, you played sega genesis on the weekends. LoL
@@jaydrains2247 Oooh wow two whole songs 🙄🙄🙄 Sit yo goof troop ass down somewhere
@@jaydrains2247 Bitch I'm from New Orleans we the Party city and I promise you the DJs barely played that BS we the home of Bounce music made by FBA'S so kick rocks
All genres was deffinitley influenced by black Americans including reggae, tf is busta smokn fr having a sound sytem isn't a Jamaican thing, he literally made a living off of appropriating blk American culture, bob Marley dedicated a whole song to blk Americans that's one of his biggest songs buffalo soldier, blk Americans r the blue print globaly🇺🇸tf
Jamaican artist were doing Toasting in the 60's with two turn tables and a mic.....Toasting is what Americans called Rapping on the beat. Toasting on the record....
Toasting comes from Black American Jive Talk lol 😆 Stop the Lies.
F*** out of here bro you guys didn't start s*** you got some never been this culturally significant to the world. We started all your s***
Toasting is originally a black American tradition.
Jamaicans were doing Mento until they heard us toast aka jive talk aka rap.
@@77Creation No Toasting is created by a Jamaican
@@AJ-pc5ln Everyone Jive talk. Creating a full song of someone talking over a riddim called Toasting by listening to someone having a conversation over Jazz and blues ridding and making joke was done by a Jamaican, not American.
Said way. Proud Jamaican. More a dem videos ya genna
Yard wi come from now Jamaican to the 🌎 🇯🇲🇯🇲✊🏽
Literally, the very "founders" of sound system culture in Jamaica said, from their very own mouths, that they got it from Black Americans.
This fantasy being propagated byJamaican-Americans/Jamaicans that they created Hip-Hop would be funny if it wasn't so sad and desperate.
Y'all really are so desirous that you're willing to resort to historical revisionism.
Only blacks Americans created music here no other groups
Thats because you’re down south....on the east coast and west coast.....reggae and dancehall are BIG...been like the since the 70’s
Hell nawl.
Busta knows cause he Jamaican decent
So Do I
I know cause I did my research and I’m Jamaican as well
I have notice how he dressed, talk and wear dreadlocks back then in the 90’s, I wasn’t there back then because I was born in 1998 in September 24. I did saw his music videos. I don’t know why I like him the way he is to be his own person of who he is, how he dressed but not the colorful cool clothes but his looks of style but it the way he act... When I was doing my research about his nationality and ethnicity background. It said that :
“Birth Name: Trevor George Smith, Jr.
Place of Birth: East Flatbush, Brooklyn, New York City, New York, U.S.
Date of Birth: May 20, 1972
Ethnicity: African-Jamaican
Busta Rhymes is an American rapper, singer, record producer, actor, and record executive. He is also known as Trevor Taheim Smith. Among his acting roles is Halloween: Resurrection (2002).”
On Ethnicity of Celebs | What Nationality and Ethnicity Ancestry
Knows what jamaicans did not create Hip Hop.
@@onenone3209 jamaicans did create hiphop kool Herc was a born jamaican from Kingston and he’s The Godfather of hiphop even he himself said hiphop has its roots in jamaica
This is a lie. Knowing how to make speakers out of dressers drawers doesn’t mean Jamaicans created Hip Hop.
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Idk why people gets so upset over any and everything.🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
@@dj-teacha_thepreacher6591 Upset nah y’all just wrong
Jamaica did not create hip hop. Hip hop was most definitely birthed in the United States there is much much much evidence of this period. And even though they say hip hop began in New York and in many ways this is true for modern hiphop, the roots run deeper and people were doing elementary hip hop in the South for far longer. I have heard comedy and jazz records from Southern Artists from the 1940s doing entire songs basically rapping over musical backing such as Louis Armstrong. Much of modern hiphop developed in NY. Jamacian immigrant kids did introduce the loud boomin speaker concept and somewhat the idea of sampling. They can take credit for that part.
No one can give me any video of anything I done tagged them in a few
Hip Hop was NOT birthed from Jamaica. Tell Busta to sit his ass down! Funk is NOT Jamaican, Jazz is NOT Jamaican. There were people doing spoken word before Kool Herc, don't get me wrong Herc is the OG, but there were already elements of hip hop in place.
Hiphop had many different influences like jazz blues rnb soul whatever you want to call it but it still had roots in Jamaica as well
Do some research, I understand why you would feel attacked, but the truth is the truth. It originated from here. Anywhere you search no matter which source, who started hip hop. Clive Campbell aka DJ Kool Herc brought the sound and the style from Jamaica. It is just what it is.
Jamaica sound birthed hip hop culture and reggaeton in Puerto Rico via Panamanian Dancehall. 🇵🇷🇯🇲
Man stop trolling.
@@walteralexander689 it’s true do your research
@@janelr1134 It's false, do yours.
You got it backwards. American r&b birthed reggae and dance hall
@@bigolbabyhuey you ppl have yet to realize that reggae and dancehall are late compared to other genres of Jamaican music. When I research what is the first Jamaican genre reggae comes up which is absolutely wrong. In the Caribbean we are taught to read history books and not to rely on google because we are not large countries like America or Canada where information especially on history is typically correct. These website educating ppl online are foreign websites which are written by foreign ppl. We learn that music in Jamaica was even created in the early 18th century but recognized in the 19th. They used the djembe drums in Jamaica ,which was years before slavery that was brought from western part of Alkebulan (Africa) and enslave in the island used it to make music . Mento music was created long before 1950 but people started to recognize during that time hence on google it says that. Grab a Caribbean history back so you can get educated on the Caribbean and stop going on certain websites on google that are not even credible.
I know a lot of Americans don't want to acknowledge the fact that cool herk was a founding father of hip Hop was he the original obviously not but he definitely had an influence on the culture. And a lot of Americans don't like foreigners so they would want to denounce and debunk anything that has to do with foreigners and the American culture but also a lot of the Caribbean West Indian people also came before the 1960s there was a lot that came in the 60s there was some that came in there 1930s so a lot of black New Yorkers do have Caribbean heritage so some of the early rappers do have Island Roots but back then a lot of people didn't say oh I'm from Jamaica I'm from Barbados they would just assume that they will all just black Americans. I know one of my friends whose grandfather was from an island but they always thought he was from the south because of his accent come to find out he was from the islands so yes the Jamaicans had a little spice to the elements of hip Hop or rap but I wouldn't say they were the original creators of it but it's definitely an influence you could see it like I said a lot of the east coast rappers have that Island root and again with a lot of things they can be people who create something but there's always somebody that's just going to make it pop and a lot of Jamaicans when island people when they put their brand on it or have a little say or little edge into it the s*** just pops and you can't take that away from them as much as you would like to.
Busta ryhmes haten on FBA.
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so we are arguing about who did what trying to describe the elephant like the blind men.
Not true all jamaican music is base on New Orleans Jazz and R&B. Coxsone Dodd visited the Black American south for the first sound system he brought to jamaica. The #1 music in jamaican was Black American R&B jamaicans listen to Black American DJ's in the south that's were toasting comes from. And Kool Herc did not invent Hip Hop. He played the records B boy Black Americans told him to play FACTS!
Reggae was invented in 1960 and my grandfather says before that. All jamaican music? Are you high? If you saw early reggae you wouldn't be saying this(you're gonna tell people who lived in jamaica at one point r&b was number one? We liked mj; but r&b artists were never big in jamaica, before the 90's atleast). In the 60's reggae was invented by jamaicans; but noted as being particularlly popular in london, africa, the carribean and canada. If we didn't even have sound systems, how did it go world wide?
This is an american thing, history has to make my group look good. This life, who cares if jamaicans influenced hip hop.
I just read up on your guy too. He's influencial; but he was a outlet for talent that already existed. I see how you spun that story there.
@@gmasters2 Bob Marley first hit out side of jamaica was One Love/ People get ready. Curtis Mayfield a Black American ADOS man made the R&B song People get ready FACT.All jamaican music is based on New Orleans Jazz and R&B FACT. Google U Roy Sir Coxsone Dodd these are basic FACTS they said it.
@@gmasters2 He Disco King Mario an American Black ADOS man was a DJ MC and Music Promoter. He brought the DJ battles inside and charged money and made a lot of money. He allowed Bam and Flash to play on his system before they had systems he introduced them to his audience which is how they built their audience. Without money Hip Hop would have just been a fade. He had the Brain power to organize and profit from Hip Hop that began Hip Hop without that it's a hobby. Give the MAN his Respect.
@@gmasters2 Jamaica was a colony of the UK which was and is racist they imposed that mind set on jamaicans along with class. Bob Marley and other Rastafarians were looked down on as outcast. Because of this early Bob Marley had to get popular outside of jamaica before he got really accepted in jamaica. He had to move from jamaica because jamaicans tried to kill him. Remember Rebel Music Bob Marley. Know you history.
I'm from south east louisiana idk why we don't hear more Caribbean music round here we ain't that far from.
Hip Hop comes from soul/funk/ disco/ jazz, and Americans have been rapping since the 20’s. Hip Hop has ZERO Caribbean influence. It sounds NOTHING like anything that was going on in the Caribbean/Jamaica. If the Caribbean was so influential, then the average listener would be able to hear the influence, easily. But no, instead, you can easily hear Funk, you can easily hear Jazz, you can easily hear Soul, you can easily hear Disco. You cannot play a single record from the start of Hip Hop, and say it sounded ANYTHING like Caribbean music. The drum patterns is funk, the cadence is AAVE, not patois, the style is rap, not “toasting”. Do me a favor, go find a toasting record for me, look at the date, then go listen to the Memphis Jugg Band, Louis Jordan, Cab Calloway, or the Jubilaries, then tell me which is older, rapping or toasting? Even though toasting comes from Jamaicans emulating American DJs. The term “Rap” comes from the early 1900’s. The definition NEVER changed, meaning, rapping was the SAME THEN as it is NOW! This is the 2nd time that Busta Rhymes done made a fool of himself on camera, spewing misinformation. The first time is when he called himself giving a history lesson on The Father, Clarence 13x, and the Nation of Gods and Earth. It was cringe worthy. It’s very upsetting to see our brothers and sisters in the Caribbean tryna steal a part of our culture and music. Smdh
Facts. It's no different than when white people try to claim that Elvis is the king of rock and roll. Black Americans invented rock and roll...white people called it race music. They wasn't listening to it or playing it. Elvis lived around black people and learned rock and roll from them. Now we got Jamaicans claiming they invented rap music. SMH
@@ignaciofuentes2642 glad that Black Americans are speaking up on this.
AAVE wasn't apart of the foundation
@@ofimportance5458 , Explain, my guy.
We all influenced each other and it all comes from Africa truly. We all split up in the west and branched off and developed a unique style of music. Later on, it all came back together, and you can see that by the way it all blends well together. Whatever passage we came through after Africa, our music develop and evolved from there. Many of us came through the Caribbean so it’s not unusual that our music had planted root in the islands.
Nana buddy this shit jamaican a 100% stop going back in time 600 years
@@blacksnowman8106 listen, if it came from Jamaica then it came from Jamaica. However, all of us copy each other’s style, habits, and mannerisms. You act like Jamaicans don’t copy other ppl’s style and ways from other countries! Your dialect ain’t even your own, it’s made up of Spanish, Dutch, French, English and whatever else! You want to make a big deal out of some damn speakers like that’s all Jamaicans have of influence in the world. Grow tf up man! Like I said originally, we all influence each other and if all comes from Africa. Let it go before I embarrass you any further!
@@blacksnowman8106 its not 600 years since jamaicans and african americans shared ancestry
@@manamal769 it comes from africa and britain
@@blacksnowman8106 it's not jamaican at all, jamaicans learned toasting from BLACC AMERICAN RADIO DJS. Herc didn't bring anything from anywhere but him SELF.
Just seeing this but rap and hiphop is American made, TF?!?! AND the Puerto Ricans are claiming the same sh!t Everyone else came along and joined laterrrrrr and yes I have island roots ... (sucking my teeth) 😒
I met kool herc in 95'. My step brother knew him and we hung out for about an hour and a half. Got a lesson on the origin of hip-hop. The debate of herc and grandmaster flowers been a questionable subject but being a bronx native I sided with what I felt....Da bronx! BTW homie where you located in da carolinas? My pops is nevisian and my sisters and I'd always get the statement of, I didn't know your dad was jamaican?! Anyway great video
Yeah that was always the debate about Grandmaster Flowers and Brooklyn starting Hip Hop and i sided with BK being a native but the BX gets the nod until more history comes out
Hip Hop started in Bronxdale Disco King Mario. Herc copied what he saw.
Coke La Roc is from North Carolina and says he was influenced by the watts prophets and the last poets. Grand Wizard Theodore, the first scratcher, is also from NC and not Jamaican.
Give Grandmaster his mfn Flowers…there’d be no Grandmaster Flash or Kool Herc without him.
@@onenone3209 Jamaicans are always copying us. ✊🏽🇺🇸
These goof balls take one DJ who moved from Jamaica to the Bronx when he was 12 and say the whole influence for Rap music is Jamaican. Straight buggin.
Liars and they are desperate for the ability to have a lineage because they've never done anything great and society. The best they had got is Bob Marley and Usain bolt everybody else has been ass from their culture other than maybe Marcus Garvey they got like three important people so they Leach off of our culture for some type of confidence and significance.
Here go Jamaicans trying rewrite history smh
Check yuh facts before you open yuh mouth.
I never heard a Bob Marley Break Beat.📻
As a jamaican we don't claim hip hop even if it did or did not start out there this is not an attack on hip hop your looking at hip hop on its evolutionary stage when you are saying what your saying Jamaicans don't want the credit neither we have reggae music and dancehall music that's enough shout out to all who knows thier roots it as simple as that
It’s all urban music the truth is we all influenced each other especially as black people example calypso,mento,blues,jazz,soul,reggae /dancehall,hip hop rap all black music originating from oppression think 🤔
JAMAICA'S MUSIC PIONEERS TEACH HOW THEY COPIED US, czcams.com/video/uB3Rt6X1koo/video.html At the end of the Video JAMAICAN PIONEERS TELL IT ALL
Jamaican toasting didn't even come from Jamaica lol. It came from black American culture. Again do your research "In the late 1950s deejay toasting was developed by Count Matchuki.[2] He conceived the idea from listening to disc jockeys on American radio stations. He would do African American jive over the music while selecting and playing R&B music. Deejays like Count Machuki working for producers would play the latest hits on traveling sound systems at parties and add their toasts or vocals to the music. These toasts consisted of comedy, boastful commentaries, half-sung rhymes, rhythmic chants, squeals, screams and rhymed storytelling."
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deejay_(Jamaican)
Jamaica Toasting came from Jamaica, and Jive talking I'd having a conversation in a joking manner, every one does it. Also, it wasn't RnB it was a Jazz and blues riddim, and the radio djs were talking with the riddim playing in the background and making jokes. A Jamaican came up with the idea to create a song consisting only talking which was the birth of toasting
Instead of reading Wikipedia, you need to start reading credible sources. I edit for Wikipedia and I can tell you this. that article about Hip hop on Wikipedia is written by an AA. He even locked it from being edited so that that no one can correct the information. He spent most of the article discrediting Jamaicans but when the origin of it comes about, he had to credit Kool herculean. Why? Because there is no one else. All the early pioneers of Hip hop were from the Caribbean p
@Xprime-iu8dr 😂 Dude Herc said himself that he watched DJ John Brown play breaks at the Plaza Tunnel in the Bronx for b boys b4 he became a dj. In fact Herc used to go there to break himself. DJ Smokey had a crew of male and female breakers called the Smokeatrons and Luckatrons respectively b4 Herc was a dj. Disco King Mario was rocking in parks in the Soundview Section of the Bronx since '71, at least 2 years b4 Herc threw his first party. B boy Sasa one of the original b boys said in an interview that is on CZcams that Herc had to familiarize himself with taste in black American music because he was ignorant of it because he came from Jamaica. I've already done the research. I was born in the Bronx. I've talked to people myself and gotten first had accounts. Herc was an early contributor to hip-hop but he created nothing.
@Xprime-iu8dr Untrue there are literally records from 1929 by the Mephis Jug Band like Whitewash Station with rapping. Louie Jordan made a song in 1949 called Saturday Night Fish Fry with full out rap. Both songs can be found on CZcams. U Roy himself credits Louie Jordan as being on of the first rappers he ever heard. Black Americans have our own culture of rapping that jamaicans followed. Even Coke Loke who was Hercs MC recently said he had no idea what Jamaican toasting was. Herc never mentioned it and he didn't even know Herc was Jamaican until he went to Hercs home and met his father. All of your arguments are fallacious when you really dig into the evidence. Go try it on someone who hasn't done the research. Black Americans created the most popular genres of music in the world such as Ragtime, Jazz, Blues and Rock n Roll before Jamaica even had a music scene. There has never been a time in history where we have followed you ✌🏾
This is what I was told way back by one of the guy
It's not just Jamaican culture to pile box soeakers on top pf each other. It's Caribbean culture. We do this everywhere ❤
Busta has been cosplaying as a black American for most of his career until recently. He hid the fact that he was Jamaican for years. He’s a lying tether.
It's pathetic for Jamaicans to try to claim hip hop music as theirs. Absolutely not. Foundational black Americans do not want to emulate Jamaica in any way. Not the way y'all dress, talk dance or anything else. We don't even cook your food. The most we'll do is patronize your stores in OUR neighborhoods or maybe a weekend getaway to your Homeland, but that's as far as the crossover goes.
It's FBA culture that's constantly emulated and perpetuated globally, which is the reason many of YOU immigrate HERE in the first place. You're attracted to OUR lifestyle and culture to the extent that you permanently relocate to grab our sauce. NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. We might visit for a weekend but come Monday morning, we're going back HOME.
Many people immigrate not because of your culture but for more oppurtunities.If you live on a small island, you can be limited.Many immigrant who step foot on American soil does really good, they go on to to have some of the best jobs because they take their education seriously.Have you ever wonder why so many black people from the diaspora does well while many AA get stuck in the ghetto.You stated that blk people come to American to enjoy your culture, i disagree.Blk people in the disspora has cultural nuances , we also have so many preferences.
@@muahful first of all you are wrong. People absolutely come to America because of the culture. How else would you know that there are opportunities here if it wasn't for the culture/media? You abandon your Homeland looking for resources and opportunities other people created and then don't even have the human decency to give those people respect. Then have the gall to actually believe you're better than the native Blacks. Pathetic and disgraceful. You should be ashamed of yourself. How stupid do you have to be to leave your Homeland that you claim is so great so that you can get a "education" from white people in America? And in your mind you think you're better than the Black Americans who have been here since before white people even got here. 😂😂😂
@@ElysianFeilds93 You frown your nose on blk people of the diaspora and upset over my comments, you're such a hipocrite.
@@muahful No, I'm not. I would only be a hypocrite if I immigrated to YOUR country and then talked shit about you and your people, while reaping the benefits of the foundation your ancestors laid. What y'all do is beyond disrespectful and you should be ashamed that yall have behaved this way for so long.
@@ElysianFeilds93 who said jamaicans came to the u.s to get education from white people?that means us black Americans get education from white people aswell lol, first of all black people has been educated, alot of jamaicans don’t have to leave jamaica because they comfortable, i knew alot of Americans and European who migrated in jamaica living they best life and they would never return to their own country,
(i dont know why but thats people choice, )
speaking of culture these yaadies dont care about culture especially my Jamaican dad, he make alot of money here and he helped alot of black Americans who lived on his block,
he buy houses and rent them cheap because he said he didn’t wanna pressure poor people, they only reason why you may not emulate they food because you can’t cook🤣 as an American am used to getting good Caribbean food which is good for us, thats all my parents cooked
This is trash he said the only thing that was played was basically everything that makes hip hop hip Hop
The dude said that we copied speakers outside so the f*** what y'all could keep your speakers outside and Street parties will keep everything else
As a matter of fact in America as far as parties go that's honestly the most illegal thing about our parties so if we can take that out our culture no problem you can have it back
I'm so glad that he claimed that Jamaicans basically created the one thing that kept getting our party shut down
Besides shootouts
But if I keep letting him talk I'm pretty sure he's going to claim that as well
N fact #2
Bok ina day uno freestyle dem ting deh
Wen you catch uno vibe dem
Dem ah fuck with uno
Crowd dem make uno hot
Which make uno go too dem show deh make fans cause uno keep them vibes dem
Bless up
Me half trini n yard
Dad from yard soooo listen wen me chat mi chat tah blood claaaat 🤯 mhsssssss kiss uno teeth tah raaateeed -#1-#BLA
Bullshit. All they got is Cool Herc. Rap begin in America way before that.
Why wasn’t carebeans flyin them flags back when hiphop started tho???
Because they didn’t create Hip Hop. Lol
Great question. This won’t receive an answer and will be overlooked
Here may have brought on e aspect of Dancehall culture, but so say that one aspect of how the music was broadcasted at a party, made up for ALL of hip-hop culture, is absolute NONSENSE! Busta should slap him self off that bullshit! and OF COURSE these young boys aren't gonna contest the bullshit he's saying, they don't know shit! That's why rap music gets progressively worse each day!
Why didn't dance hall pop off then when Herk brought it and it was rap and hip hop that popped off? what a load of rubbish! So outspoken were Jamaicans that Marcus Mosiah Garvey had to leave Jamaica to get Pan Africanism popping off right?