The Right to Disconnect is NOT Bad for Productivity

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  • čas přidán 1. 04. 2024
  • The Right to Disconnect legislation being passed recently has attracted criticism from Opposition leader Peter Dutton and business groups, who say it's bad for productivity.
    They may need to learn some basic maths, because they couldn't be more wrong.
    Centre for Future Work Director Dr Jim Stanford explains.
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Komentáře • 73

  • @technopsychobedlam
    @technopsychobedlam Před 2 měsíci +40

    They say 'productivity' when they really mean profit and corporate control

  • @nottenvironmental6208
    @nottenvironmental6208 Před 2 měsíci +42

    LNP policy has created dropping productivity, increased hrs and less skilled work. Also the biggest transfer of wealth out of Australia ever!

  • @budawang77
    @budawang77 Před 2 měsíci +36

    Peter Dutton is wrong about most things.

    • @robbrewer2036
      @robbrewer2036 Před 2 měsíci +2

      No productivity there.

    • @NathanCroucher
      @NathanCroucher Před 2 měsíci +4

      There no point to him now. Just a seat warmer till they boot him.

    • @jinnantonix4570
      @jinnantonix4570 Před 2 měsíci

      Dutton is not wrong about this issue. Productivity may be defined from the macro level as a measure of economic performance that compares the amount of goods and services produced (output) with the amount of inputs used to produce those goods and services. The Right to Disconnect legislation will lower productivity from the businesses perspective, because it will reduce a businesses efficiency and competitiveness in an increasingly 24/7 world.

    • @budawang77
      @budawang77 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@jinnantonix4570 Productivity is all about businesses working smarter, not harder. Automation and innovation are the key drivers of productivity but they require a lot of capital investment and first rate management. Many Australian businesses are protected from a healthy level of competition. Instead of investing and innovating, they try to squeeze their employees as much as possible so that they can retain profits for share buybacks and executive bonuses. This is why productivity growth is low in Australia.

    • @NathanCroucher
      @NathanCroucher Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@jinnantonix4570 Hey didnt think about it like that, so the goal is to remove all employment restrictions business has, to improve productivity. This is obvious seeing the massive productivity of countries that have no workplace rights.
      Duttons job is to win government, if he thinks removing RTD for voters is a good idea then he's wrong.

  • @zappy7393
    @zappy7393 Před 2 měsíci +37

    Considering how little politicians actually show up to vote or debate in question time, maybe we need to look at how their productivity stacks up.

  • @Beaut_Beau
    @Beaut_Beau Před 2 měsíci +30

    The thing that is rarely mentioned when people start carrying on about "productivity" is the *quality* of the hours worked.
    A well rested employee who gets adequate lunch breaks, leaves work on time, and doesnt get harassed outside of work hours is going to be a more energised and happy employee, and that will almost always result in better quality of work, so what they can produce in an hour, will be more than an overworked, stressed, burned out, harassed employee.
    Plus there are so many other factors, like employee loyalty to the business, if it treats them well, less staff turnover as people arent quitting so often, which leads to employees with more years of experience, and thus better at the job.

    • @nottenvironmental6208
      @nottenvironmental6208 Před 2 měsíci +5

      It's easy to see why young people have no loyalty to employers. Watching their parents etc get robbed of life by corporations trained them well.

  • @michaell2120
    @michaell2120 Před 2 měsíci +17

    Worth remembering that Dutton is a business owner and multi-millionaire. Always bet on self interest.

  • @ChristmasCrustacean1
    @ChristmasCrustacean1 Před 2 měsíci +19

    Dutton is wrong? must be a day that ends in Y.

  • @onenate
    @onenate Před 2 měsíci +15

    The LNP and big business would really love feudalism to come back. What’s important to them isn’t the economy, but their power and wealth.

    • @CitizenAyellowblue
      @CitizenAyellowblue Před 2 měsíci

      In a sense, it has come back. Everyone working remotely in isolation is just piece-work. Decentralised sweat shops with no ability to develop empathy or solidarity with others, and hence no chance to collectively advocate for your welfare.

    • @alanhilder1883
      @alanhilder1883 Před 2 měsíci

      When ever a politician says something like " Get back the the golden age of the 50's " they mean the 1850's, before a couple of Charlies messed it up. Dickins and Darwin.

  • @josephj6521
    @josephj6521 Před 2 měsíci +6

    A had a boss years ago wanting me to work on weekends for free. I said “would you demand a burger for free? No, so I don’t offer my services for free”.

    • @paulbo9033
      @paulbo9033 Před 2 měsíci

      Moral of the story: you are a tasty burger.
      lols, jk.

  • @john-lenin
    @john-lenin Před 2 měsíci +11

    Just give every worker the CEOs home phone - so they can call them at 3 AM.

  • @Enlight_Entertain
    @Enlight_Entertain Před 2 měsíci +13

    In my current role in Sydney they force us to be on call (software development) and ask us to start work early and finish work late, work on weekends and work on holidays without getting any extra on call pay. and cant refuse (yeah I know its toxic and looking for opportunities now atm) It just started after few months I joined in and I cant leave as i work on niche role. if I leave early its not reflecting well on my career. Its affecting my family life and kid. its affecting my health both mental and physical. Its tragic not only for me but also for other colleagues. Initial contract said only 36 hours per week. but there is a line in contact says I may have to work off time when the role required to but now its a regular occurrence. I raised this with management and up to no avail. Sad thing is US colleagues get paid to do be on call and we are not.
    Thats why we need this law. I see my peers in Scandinavian countries work productively and have good work life balance.

    • @nottenvironmental6208
      @nottenvironmental6208 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Good luck finding a better employer. Vote with your feet

    • @-ac-8296
      @-ac-8296 Před 2 měsíci +2

      if you're a full time employee and past your probation you have rights you can enforce you know

    • @robbrewer2036
      @robbrewer2036 Před 2 měsíci +9

      Unions are absolutely needed.

    • @Enlight_Entertain
      @Enlight_Entertain Před 2 měsíci

      @@-ac-8296 I am full time employee and Australian citizen. I dont believe we habe any rights regarding work hours for software engineering roles. There are powerful rules and unions for other industries I know but I dont believe we have case.

    • @NathanCroucher
      @NathanCroucher Před 2 měsíci

      You exercise this right to disconnect, you wont get calls anymore.

  • @gerardbiddle1808
    @gerardbiddle1808 Před 2 měsíci +11

    Thank you Jim and the Australian Institute for the truth contrary to political views ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ 4:03

  • @ommanipadmehung3014
    @ommanipadmehung3014 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Peter Dutton's scary face is the love child of Voldermort and Darth Vader

  • @user-br2rr9tt2c
    @user-br2rr9tt2c Před 2 měsíci +1

    I had a boss who wanted the IT team to be on call for the weekend for the grand total of $22. I did some research and found that IT staff in other companies were being paid $600 a weekend to be on call. It never progressed after he was presented with the REAL costs of people being on call for the weekend.

  • @MichaelPolios
    @MichaelPolios Před 2 měsíci +6

    What Peter Dutton really means by productivity is labour surplus. His argument is that the right to disconnect decreases productivity to the extent that workers aren't performing uncompensated labour.

    • @GivusADurryGronk
      @GivusADurryGronk Před 2 měsíci +3

      Exactly what you’d expect of neoliberals and/or any party specifically in opposition to a party built to represent the labour force.

    • @paulbo9033
      @paulbo9033 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I honestly don't think he is even 'smart' enough to be saying that. I think he's just parroting what his corporate paymasters want him to say and probably still thinks factories still work like they did in the 50's. i.e. wall to wall humans instead of now wall to wall robots.

  • @jamiehoward7478
    @jamiehoward7478 Před měsícem +1

    Productivity in Australia generally historically equals more work for less pay...

  • @beesplaining1882
    @beesplaining1882 Před 2 měsíci +1

    By "bad for productivity" Mr Dutton means "bad for business profits". It's just a more devious way of saying it!

  • @rodbower.humanist
    @rodbower.humanist Před 2 měsíci +3

    Yes the correct definition is output per hour worked, but Dutton and co are only interested in output per dollar paid. They have 'alternative definitions' just like they have 'alternative facts'.

  • @SnowyRVulpix
    @SnowyRVulpix Před měsícem +1

    A healthy work life balance is crucial and what this right seeks to protect

  • @andrewstewart9063
    @andrewstewart9063 Před 2 měsíci +3

    The thing is Dutton knows he is wrong he's just talking to his base.

  • @thedudescar674
    @thedudescar674 Před 2 měsíci +3

    'Productivity' is the go to talking point for those with no solutions, it's a whinge point to let it seem like they know what's going on.
    Oh and the Romans had some astonishingly good 'Productivity' given all the slaves they had🤷‍♂

  • @marble_wraith
    @marble_wraith Před 2 měsíci +8

    Right to disconnect is critically important! It's more than about just work, it has to do with our freedoms / right to privacy.

    • @josephj6521
      @josephj6521 Před 2 měsíci

      Health benefits too. A healthier workforce is a more productive one.

  • @TheFalconerNZ
    @TheFalconerNZ Před 2 měsíci

    I agree to 'Out of Hours Contact' when I get paid 1.5 hours per hour I work (paid in the next pay) or 2 hours off as Time Lieu (paid & used at my discretion) per hour I work as this is my time to recharge to maintain my productivity for the following at work & stop 'Work BurnOut' by being with family, friends or just relaxing.

  • @KoalaGardens
    @KoalaGardens Před 2 měsíci

    but they would only use PAID HOURS WORK in that equation, and therefore calling on them 24/7 without paying them ... I mean I totally agree with you, I can just see those twisted minds

  • @ralphrich3358
    @ralphrich3358 Před 2 měsíci +2

    He is consistently wrong

  • @jinnantonix4570
    @jinnantonix4570 Před 2 měsíci

    Dutton and business owners define productivity as a measure of economic performance that compares the amount of goods and services produced (output) with the amount of inputs used to produce those goods and services. The AI defines it as productivity in terms of hours worked per individual. They are both correct definitions.

  • @ML6103
    @ML6103 Před 2 měsíci +3

    You really have to laugh. 'Australians work hard...' I hear Andrew Bolt say. But Andrew. They're not at work. So what are you talking about?

    • @alanhilder1883
      @alanhilder1883 Před 2 měsíci

      I think he is really saying that "real Australians work hard" that is the multi millionaires, who might give him money, are hard at work while populating the golf course.

    • @ML6103
      @ML6103 Před měsícem

      @@alanhilder1883 probably not picking up phone calls they don't want whilst they're there, either

    • @alanhilder1883
      @alanhilder1883 Před měsícem

      @@ML6103 Why would they want to hear a lesser person talk, they bellow out what they want for lunch at the servers, that is the closest they get to that level interaction.

  • @CitizenAyellowblue
    @CitizenAyellowblue Před 2 měsíci

    Just try getting this right to disconnect enforced. Got money for a barrister? Got six months to work on your case? Like most rights, you only get to invoke them if you’re wealthy with time on your hands. This doesn’t mean I’m opposed to enshrining this right. I just think that like most of these sorts of initiatives, you will be able assess how genuine they are by the effort that is put into follow-through that make the rules stick, and the rights immediately accessible to everyone. I have zero confidence that any such guarantees will ever be enforced.

  • @herbalfleece8821
    @herbalfleece8821 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Isn't part of this argument potentially spurious? You say that outside of hours work is usually work that is supposed to have been done during the work week (inside of work hours). Fine, but if it isn't being done then that is because of the baseline level of weekly output, and outside-of-work-hours work does increase total output from that baseline (increasing the numerator). So it could be said in this simplistic idealisation to increase the numerator and the denominator. That being said that even if we accept its still true that this probably wouldn't actually increase total output! Because, as many studies of reduced hours have shown, like 4-day work week trials, productivity usually stays level or rises. In my view this is a stronger argument against this awful invasion of work into out-of-work hours.

  • @alanhilder1883
    @alanhilder1883 Před 2 měsíci

    You are wrong in one way with your equation. The bottom line, as they see it, is hours they have to pay for. If they can make you work for free, productivity goes up, profits therefore go up.
    Corporal No ( Dutton, his hero was the last liberal leader of the opposition ( even while in power ) was capitan No ) is almost exclusively wrong, but he has been bought by the multinational corporations to do their bidding.
    Don't get me wrong, almost all the Australian politicians have been bought by the corporations. Labor only give lip service to the unions.

  • @paulbo9033
    @paulbo9033 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Professional wrong person Dutton doesnt understand the we live in a world of computers, robots, and ai, and that if i do the same amount of work in 4 days that i used to do in 5 days, i have just increased productivity.
    I asusme the guy is working for Lobbyists.

  • @Neil-yg5gm
    @Neil-yg5gm Před 2 měsíci +1

    Why so much talk about the Coalition? Labor is in power Federally and every mainland State.

    • @Dickie5330
      @Dickie5330 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Because they're the ones saying they'd reverse the law once back in power.

    • @Neil-yg5gm
      @Neil-yg5gm Před 2 měsíci

      @@Dickie5330 Really? ALP supporters do not hold the ALP to account only the Coalition.

    • @Gumardee_coins_and_banknotes
      @Gumardee_coins_and_banknotes Před měsícem

      @@Neil-yg5gm The Coalition is suppose to hold the ALP to account, that is how current politics works.