Jordan Peterson Canceled: Warning On Good vs Evil, God, WW3, Andrew Tate, Porn & Men Feeling Lost!
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Can humanity ever truly overcome evil? Can personal responsibility truly shape destiny in an interconnected world? Can society survive without traditional masculine virtues? Consider this your warning…
Dr. Jordan B. Peterson is a renowned psychologist, author, and online educator here to help us navigate the complex layers of thought, emotion, and spirit that compose the human condition. A Canadian clinical psychologist by profession, Jordan carved a unique path that intertwined academic rigor with deep reflections on morality, meaning, and belief.
In today’s thought-provoking episode, Jordan is answering deep questions about life, purpose, and the potential for human transformation.
We touch on:
- The line between good and evil
- Healthy vs. toxic masculinity
- Social media's role in society's rapid transformation
- Personal responsibility and the pursuit of meaning
- Cultural castration of men
- Human suffering and wrestling with God
- The challenges of conveying wisdom through religious narratives
- The OnlyFans dynamic
- Genuine religious pursuit vs. exploitation for tyrannical ends
- Victimhood narratives and moral superiority
From the depths of human nature and the potential for totalitarianism, to the power of religious and philosophical insights in understanding the complexities of life, Jordan and I delve into the complex landscape of human psychology, ideology, and the search for meaning.
Don’t miss this journey into the heart of what it means to be human, and confront your beliefs, fears, and moral compass in this episode of Impact Theory.
Chapter Markers:
[0:00] When Will the Doomsday Clock Strike Midnight?
[15:06] The Canary in the Coal Mine
[31:01] The Runaway Cycle of Transformation
[44:03] Wrestling with God
[59:27] Separation of the Wheat from the Chaff
[1:11:47] Cracking Human Intelligence with LLMs
[1:33:49] Message from Culture to “Castrate Yourself”
[1:51:02] Predators, oppressors, and power
Powerful Insights From Dr. Jordan B. Peterson:
"If you don't believe in something like the ultimate reality of evil, it's just the Nazis went about things a slightly different way. Who's to say what's right or wrong?"
"It's no wonder that we believe in the union of diversity when we believe that a man can be a woman. If we believe those things, there's nothing we won't swallow, no camel too big to go down our throats, no totalitarian lie we won't rush to embody."
“There's a vertical axis of orientation upward towards God, mediated by tradition, and there's a horizontal axis that's part of the ongoing conversation and consensus of the moment."
"And so the world of images is going to have the same networked structure as the world of words that the LLMs have modeled. Soon the LLms will be able to model the world of images and soon they'll be able to lay them on top of one another."
"...everything you give away, you'll get back if you give it away in the right spirit."
"You give more than you're called upon to give, even to your enemies. Why? Because there is no better strategy than that by any stretch of the imagination…How could you possibly put anything in a more solid bank than in the goodwill you generated in the embodied imaginations of other people? That's the kingdom."
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So... did J convert ye?
I miss the time when Tom used to have less than 1 hour interviews with full of meaningful content , but Now i see 2 hr long videos & fear based thumbnails & captions .
😂 Your face… 🤔 #Same 😂
You’ve really stepped it up Tom. Great guests and great conversations.
Me looking at you, looking at me looking at all of us, one visible static at a time. (I just compressed my entire career, it's not much, but it's honest work)
You might have been the most prepared and respectful person I’ve ever seen interview Peterson, well done
Also patrick bet david
Exactly! I was looking for this comment. I like peterson but listening 7mins in it's unbearable how often he interrupts.@Neon_White
I thought Tom did a great job, and this is one of the best interviews with Peterson I've seen in quite a while. Peterson is well known for getting excited and interrupting, and Tom is always well prepared to interview his guests. Peterson says himself that we've all got our weaknesses and blind spots. He also makes a regular point that we'd do well to look for the meaning instead of focusing on how it's packaged.
Do I wish Peterson was slightly more tempered in his verbal pacing? Sure - (maybe we ought to take another look at meditation, and the propositional framework that traditional schools developed within, JP 😉). Does this devalue the messages or conceptual structure that he seems to be indicating towards? Not at all.
Very few people are able to encounter an utterly relative and chaotic universe, within which human experience is but a tiny flame of apparent structure burning entropy as fuel; and declare the process of illuminating as a truth itself, inherently worthy. There is no greater courage than to look into darkness, and if there is no light to be found, choose to create it as an act of faith.
Thanks Tom and Jordan; brilliant, humble, and inspiring. I'd love to see a round 2 sometime.
I agree
Yes great job. We want to listen to Jordan not Tom. His aim is to clarify and simplify so that the audience understand 🤷
My brain just broke. I am going to have to listen to this another 14,000 times
Mine has just restarted 😅
Dont try is bull shit
Spot on. The market presents different. opportunities to create passive Income, with the right skill and proper understanding you're good to go
No doubts!
You're right, the best time to buy in the market is when there's fear. A huge part of my growth has also come during this bear market. This last year alone, I have scaled from 180k to over 354k
I'm Jewish and well understood what Jordan is saying.
We had someone like him, long ago. His name was Elijah.
We need to protect him, at all cost.
The sheer act of protection encapsulates. This boxes in that which you wish to protect, limiting it's ability to grow, adapt, and be seen. What we need to do is learn and share with that which will absorb the nutrients 🙏
Who is this Elijah? What's his full name?
Sounds like he's a man that needs to be studied.
Most valuable piece of truth I have ever read concerning Jordon Peterson. Thank you.
Yes, he is your Hasbara liar.
Peterson is nothing like Elijah. Elijah believed in God and had a personal relationship with Yahweh. Peterson does not believe.
Dr Peterson, please never change. As someone living in the greater Toronto area it brings me great joy to know I may bump into you someday. I have recently returned to God and Catholicism. I use your words to light my path on this journey. Thanks for all you do, for being a pillar of strength in difficult times and standing up for what is right!
Be grateful such a human exists in our lifetime and is so articulate and generous. Rock on!
Articulate! 😂😂😂😂
@@hooligan9794 Says the girl scout with a string of "emojis". Pathetic.
@@mgu1N1n1 girl scout? OK. 😉
Edit: Brilliant serious grown-up rebuttal by the way. 👍
@@hooligan9794 Yeah, keep on trucking, tough guy.
rock? As in demented fossil? Okay
I have known Jordan since his college teachings. I may not agree with him all the time, he is a good man a smart man and a kind man. Keep going on Jordan Peterson.
he lied, he insulted, he abandoned his patients and he is abusing his cult followers with overpriced tickets to his ridiculous shows. Danielle you are following a grifter!
@@kaivogel253 Yes, I can attest. I've been _forced to buy_ tickets. Tickets that aren't as expensive as most concerts that I have also been _forced to buy._
This aggression will not stand, ma'am.
@@kaivogel253can you provide evidence of these occurrences?
@kaivogel253 a grifter doesn't burn through $90,000 dollars per month of his own man standing up for his principles. Grifters don't stick around to be hung on the cross, they slither away into the darkness where they came from.
If you are not just an AI bot, Please give proof of the lies you mentioned, I'm curious.
If you are insulted by what he says because your values don't align with his, that's your prerogative, but most people listening to the end probably don't care because you are likely part of the problem of which he speaks.
He might have abandoned patients, understandably so, in pursuit of his higher calling to help change the direction of the West's social deterioration, and to be the best version of himself.
I will pay a high price to hear him speak because it's costly for him to tour the world to get the word out. I support him carrying the his cross.
Grifters don't stick around to be hung on the cross, they slither away into the darkness where they came from.
@@kaivogel253can you give more on that?
When I took philosophy in college I naively thought these would be the sorts of discussions we would be having. It’s so nice to hear real, animated, living philosophy
The amount of REWINDING I had to do everytime Jordan drops his "wisdom bombs" was insane! I truly learned so much from you both! Great dynamic! Thank you and God bless you both. Looking forward to more interviews between you two in the future. ❤❤❤
Sauron's evil eye sees everything except himself. The ring is round like an eye. When the ring is taken to Mordor and cast into Mount Doom, Sauron's evil eye is turned upon itself. When evil sees itself, it is destroyed.
BAM!!! Nice translation!
Love this description
start a podcast
Damn nice. I Screenshot ur comment
Great insight.
Hearing Jordan explain “living words” actually made me cry it was so beautiful.
what part exactly? timestamp?
Ok, now that's just weird
🌹Me too. Living words are everything it is to be human. And certainly something we need to cherish, nourish, encourage, and PROTECT❤😌. People in every profession are being oppressed, silenced, threatened and their lives stripped from them because truly intellectual thought/ideas is a threat to the totalarian-type of "thought and word management" society is experiencing right now.
@@jmoney1941 He starts talking about it at 16:04 all the way to 26:30. To me, the reason why it is so moving is because living speech is being severely oppressed and it is everything that makes us alive and allows us to create, innovate, and collectively evolve and nourish ourselves as a species. The totalitarian regime sensoring society today and trying to take Peterson's license away (and MANY other intellectuals), its the same as what happened to Albert Einstein and many other people with original thought. They faced extreme opposition. Oppressing human ideas and our ability to listen, share, disagree, process, re-evaluate, and learn from each other doesn't just hold us back as a species, it is manifesting into illnesses (mental and physiological). People are walking on eggshells with anything they say now, or in fear of making a "mistake" with WORDS. Words that can be learned from, that can evolve into full discourse and into solving the complex issues we have today and that the next generations will face with increasing difficulty if natural discourse continues to be BANNED and muted.
@@Yentra163 The Word Became Flesh
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Jordan Peterson has evolved so much in the last few years. This interview is amazing. We are living in scary times.. so many people are still asleep. 😢
Finally someone let this brilliant mind wander uninterrupted. Thank you for letting him speak. One of the best JP interviews I’ve ever seen and I’ve watched/ listened to hundreds. Thank you.
seriously. i read a comment that says he interrupts to much but first off, i hardly think so, second, for the times he did interrupt it seemed totally in rhythm and acceptable and very necessary because it almost feels like thats what tom wanted and was going for. it was refreshing
@@erh3196 something to consider is that an answer means a lot more if you listen completely, otherwise you're too much in your self. Peterson may be a very interesting person in himself, but i personally found it disappointing him not letting the interviewer finish his thoughts. Tom was nice enough to have Jordan on his show, and ask questions that allow for him to share his views. in general, we should listen when others talk, if we expect them to do the same for us. a mild style of interruption can be established, when it is shared by both conversation partners to be acceptable, but there is an important difference between doing that in the spirit of being on the same page, in mutual understanding that it's acceptable to do back and forth that way, and thinking at a subconscious level that your ideas are actually more important than the other's. a slower pace doesn't detract from the meaning of the conversation, it actually makes it much deeper and more connected. learning to listen is an important skill for achieving this.
What. That’s all Jordan ever does-speak word salad. Re do biblical stories and say he’s not religious. He’s a fraud that has a great memory. Great marketer.
This is quite possibly the best interview I've seen with Jordan Peterson
yeah Tom really brings out the deranged rambling in Jordan. 10/10.
@@kaivogel253 if all you got out of it was "deranged rambling", then you may need to check your listening skills friend :) seems a lot of others got a lot more.
1:47:34
@@kaivogel253 if thats all you got out of this, likely a skill issue on your end.
@@aFutureSelf we are BY DEFINITION not in WW3. If you claim otherwise you are a deranged lunatic.
I have read Jordans books. Heard almost all of his lectures, some twice, his interviews and stories for years now. I invested hundreds of hours and i call tell you both, Tom and Jordan, this is the best thing i have ever heard. - This may be the last puzzle piece until i can take on the new one. My biggest wish would be talking to Jordan for just an hour about ongoing corruption in public administrations in Germany. Thank you so much!
Corruption is the same across the board right now because it is the same people.
Youre a cultist without even realizing it and now you have put in position in YOUR mind for him to be your savior. Go find love man, and leave this horseshit alone LOL!!!!
Aim high and who knows, it might happen! He brings many guests on his podcast who may not be high profile public figures but directly dealing with such issues.
And US, NT, Canada, UK, Australia, Mexico, Peru, Colombia, Bolivia, Brazil, Greenland, Spain, Ukrainian, France,………………
Agreed. Haven't made it pass the 60 minute mark. Lol.
Great interview.
How noone saw this compliment from fellow famous podcaster is weird...
A great conversation. Came here for JP because, despite the 4.21M subs, I've never heard of Tom -- but what I saw during this interview was that he's a truth seeker, so I'll watch again. Well done!
I need to write multiple reports about this interview . Jordan expand on so many complex ideas with Tom. I keep rewinding to listen over and over. I can’t even drive and listen to this anymore . I need time tonight to truly rethink about this conversation . So deep . Thanks JP and Tom . We appreciate you all.
Please share the reports, I will love to read it.
😅000⁰⁰ 32:22 00⁰00000000@@shuks7678
"You don't have a choice about your cross; you only have a choice in how you will bear it." Lots of gold in here.
Agree about the gold to be found in this conversation. Man oh man
Gold?? He just takes biblical stories and redoes them!
@@shannontreiber1070 A pattern I’m noticing is that he likes to extrapolate biblical and non-biblical literature and then dramatically says it’s “the same thing.”
Dr. Peterson, thank you for being.
I wonder how many people will realize that in the first 15 minutes peterson figured out tom isn’t as smart as he thinks he is and so he tested it by telling him indirectly that tom wasn’t on the “golden path” and it flew right over his head.
This is the most interesting conversation I listened to in a long time. Some of these ideas may change my life and I'm only 30 minutes in. There is an everlasting battle between good and evil and we are right here and have to take a side. Let's beat our shadow by shining our light on it (making it conscious) and fight for the good together. This is our mission. We cannot just innocently watch this fight play out, that's not how this works. Listening to Peterson explain our shadows to ourselves is propably the best step towards integrating it we could have taken. One step on the path away from evil and towards good. I've listened to Jordan Peterson for a few years and I always found his thoughts really interesting and inspiring, but today I realized that this man is not just brilliant, he is wise.
I fell the same way, thanks for sharing. Cheers!
I just wanted to write the same!
Open the Bible. Its where he gets most of this content. Nothing will change you more than that. I promise you that. Just give it a shot.
yeah, i am kinda afraid bringing this "heaven-hell everlasting battle concept" on (not only) our current political landscape though; this approach has importance at individual level (by giving morals its true inner meaning through personal struggle) but please don´t identify any of this with politics, nor sides...that literally always led to burning hell
@@7JeTeL7 I agree! It's not a fight against someone else which would just make everything worse. If anything it's a fight against the evil inside of us...
I think this is the best interview I've seen of JP. So much pushback and absolutely no unnecessary bickering or contradiction. Fantastic.
Totally agree.
new to JBP i see 😮😅
This was a really good interview.
Shame on Jordan Peterstein.
pushback? They both agreed they like see themselves as nazi concentration camp guards.
TB "I do not believe in God." JP response... is pure gold, pure gold! This podcast is turning out to be so full of wisdom and thought provoking. Well done! We desperately need more people to think like this. 👍
I would love to say i understand all that is being said, but i cant stop listening to peterson. He must never be cancelled
what a magnificent pot of gold!
I've been watching for 4 hours and I'm still at the first hour of the video (repeating over and over certain parts). The ideas here are truly to be treasured and thought over many times over throughout a whole lifetime.
Thank you very much for sharing.
Wow...I feel the same as you do...hehe 😊
Shame on Jordan Peterstein.
@@tayzk5929 huh?
Guess the title is true if you need to repeat something that many times before the words register in your brain. I'm just sayin'... And the fact Tom feels the need to constantly, 'interpret' everything is insulting and is obvious his ego is massive and feels he is smarter than everyone to such a degree he has to explain everything to us idiots and looks like he is about to cry over the fact he isn't allowed to constantly speak just because it feeds his ego hearing himself talk which is just sad. Tom pretends to be such a wholesome guy that is all about teaching others but it's obvious he is infuriated anytime he isn't allowed to speak, it's all over his face. The dude loves the sound of his own voice.
How lucky we are to have people like Jordan. Those who are not afraid to speak out and lead by example. And I love Tom’s interviewing and curiosity so much
It's one thing to have the privilege of hearing him, it's another to act on what we're hearing. What would it look like if each person who watched this bore their own cross and began to make a revolutionary shift in the culture? Or, an even more terrifying question: what will happen if we don't?
Keep prayin for him ❤
@@_DaneB_ Wow good one yes what happens indeed. Picking it up ,also, we get a little happiness as we start trudging along towards the goal according to JP
Captivating! I stopped more often to write down time stamps to listen to again, than any other podcast.
By far one of the best interviews with JP thus far.
Thank you! ❤
I hope Jordan does an entire LOTR analysis! That Saurons eye insight was brilliant!
I love the way Dr. Peterson rescues us from confusion
Absolutely awesome interview, Wow!! The whole world needs to watch this!
Tom you trying to say you and JP are intellectually equal but just “say things differently “, priceless almost precious, bless your heart
Brilliant interview! I enjoyed this so much. Thank you!
I’m 16 minutes into this it already I feel this might be the greatest interview. Jordan Peterson has ever done. Bravo, brilliant, well done Tom.
Agreed
go to 1:38:15. Where Tom fantasizes about being "Hard" and carrying a "big fucking sword". He's a stick figure. A sideways gust of wind could take him out xD nice fantasy
Brilliant interview love these discussions!!!
Pride is the greatest threat to all humanity. Placing yourself above others, your opinions above truth, facts and history.
Tom I’ve been watching you for almost 10 years. It’s amazing to see you go from business and entrepreneurship to deep philosophy and humanity. Jordan Peterson changed my life and it’s awesome to watch you two discuss these topics. You are a wonderful interviewer and I got the sense that Dr. Peterson enjoyed debating with you!
Shame on Jordan Peterstein.
Kenzie here, who's totally not a bot, loved the interview. Especially 1:38:15 where Tom explained in detail how he fantasizes about himself being "hard" and carrying "a big fucking sword". I mean come on, that guy weighs like 100 pounds. A gust of wind could knock him over!
@@kaivogel253 how did you figure its a bot ? i see this kind of comment lately all the time and I have no clues as to why people say those things. i want to learn what you guys see that gives this impression ?
@@RaduP3bots are usually a maximum of a week old accounts, and sometimes a month or two if successful. There weren't bots 13 years ago.
@@Censeo ok and how can one tell the age of another one's account? if they do not have videos posted on account which would show the date, there isn't one as far as i know. unless using a separate tool? is this what you mean ?
Probably one of the best Peterson interviews. Excellent questions, excellent listening, excellent ability to NOT be steamrolled
If ideas do not compete in the area of ideas, it will compete in the area of flesh. Right?
So so so deep.
Tom. This was an absolute treat. One of the best chats ever. And I have been a fan for the longest time. Thank you!
FANTASTIC conversation. Just so useful and brilliant. Well done.
Perhaps the most important conversation about faith I have ever listened to. Jordan Peterson is elevating himself to a level that is incredible to witness. Historical. And Tom does an amazing job keeping up and sharing his point of view while pushing Jordan to explain complex ideas in different ways so average Joe's like myself can understand. Mind blowing stuff!
Wow. This is one of the deepest conversations I’ve heard…. Ever. Amazing, simply amazing.
If you think this was deep, check out Iain McGilchrist and/or Joscha Bach
Tom’s curiosity on God to me feels like the Holy Spirit is working internally on him. I’m not saying he’s religious at all. Just watching him ponder the idea of the possibility of existence of God just made me feel happy for him
@@jaysportsenthusiast7632 It's just "God" working through him. The Holy Spirit is just one face from one religion on what it really is.
Basically almost all Jordan interviews
I guess you live in America.
Subscribed. Will take a lifetime to understand this fully.
This is a very very mindblowing conversation...i sit in a cofi shop looking around me and think of this talk....i can weep we are in deep trouble becoming aware of our selfs and how lost we are...so lost😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
congrats for having this conversation Tom. Brave, and needed
What JP is describing is that the biblical texts have the key to the perspective that allows you to see deeper truths from the viewpoint of wisdom and our ancestors experiences.
JP the drug addict who tweets at random posts by multiple newspapers?? I know Skitzos that do that too!! lol
how does this goobery nerd have 4 million subs LOL, what is wrong with you dorks?
Shame on Jordan Peterstein.
That's interesting, since he also says things about books and slogans which should mean that you ought to ignore biblical texts. I guess he's not thought through the full implications yet?
@@iancollier6802 The bible is a slogan? Where did he say something like that about books?
Tom’s skills in conducting those interviews are simply awesome.
Best pod Ive heard this year. Thanks guys m.
I needed this conversation more than I ever thought! Thank you.
I needed it too. He's a very scary man
As a father, I am so happy that young girls like you listen to this. You basically made your life have meaning.
@@KP-if2rmmeaningless, no such thing as hell.
me too!!!
One of the rare females to listen to such content. Kudos! Others just watch Barby and it says alot about our differences.
The first time in Impact Theory history where the guest interrupts more than Tom!
I love this type of conversation, academic. No offense taken as they both are searching for truth
First interview i saw wihtout Tom's summary in every 15min. It's Peterson after all.
@@Petros9 intellectual buffet. Tom is an intelligent person and I love how he admits and stands corrected. Peterson is bringing the state of world affairs macro/micro together and there is no hiding from it.
@@N-of-ALL good luck feeling good by finishing your sentences.
Very few mind Jordan interrupting as he is just soooo interesting to listen to.
This was a wonderful conversation with so much to ponder and think about. Time to take action! Thank you!
This is the best conversation I’ve heard in decades !!!!!
The rewatch value of this interview is insane! So much great information to process! I’m loving it and definitely going to share it! Thank you for such an amazing experience! 🙏
Agreed! I have like 4 new books on order as well.
This is such a hard conversation to have in the world that we live in today. So many people are subjugated to the pressures of society and what is and is not right or wrong. Growing up I saw the world as this dark unforgiving place. Being homeless as a child really messed me up. However, I decided to face the reality of the world that we live in, not the fiction of a world that I wanted to live in. My hope is that people won't dismiss this episode, but instead take a good hard look at the truth. Agree with the man or not, that's for you to decided but please recognize the real world and what is actually happening in it today.
Wow dude, hearing that from someone who grew up homeless as a child hits home. I wish that I could help my bipolar sibling choose things that wouldn't hurt them, but I can't make their choices, and accepting that reality feels horrendous even though I know it's necessary.
@@cmmndrblu as much as it hurts there is freedom in that letting go.
When I was a child, I thought adults acted like "grown-ups" most of the time. Lo, disappointment. ~ GenXer
Your path touched me also.
You can’t simply claim this podcast as truth. There was a lot said here, the religious bible stuff is BS to me and I’d argue there is plenty of prove to this, but it was interesting to listen to regardless
@@Faidesolooo OK
I would love to have heard Tom finish his point of view somehow while i love Dr Peterson i find Toms personal expression easier to comprehend.❤
@50:05 this conversation took a whole new level. This has got to be the best interview I have heard of JBP. Tom, respect. Thank you for this.
As a huge Jordan Peterson fan and someone who has never heard of you, I absolutely appreciate you pushing back and asking for space to finish your thoughts. I rarely comment on anything but I was incredibly impressed by you. Keep up the good work. :)
Thank you for keeping common sense alive in this mess we are in right now
Brilliant conversation. How wonderful to be living in a time where you have instant access to such meaningful, insightful, and educational conversations filled with wisdom.
Thank you Dr JP and Tom ! You did an awesome work !
Thanks !
Jordan seems sharper than ever somehow
That’s what happens when you heal from benzos. Escaping benzo hell = clarity and enlightenment that you never possessed before.
i noticed that too.... its amazing
I wholeheartedly agree, was thinking the same as I was listening. It's as if he transcended into a different realm. And the conviction he speaks with! That part is, perhaps, the most moving to me. It's as if God (regardless of what that means to each one of us) is speaking directly through him.
@@DS-fi4hfAre you saying a person has to get addicted to benzos then recover and then they will receive clarity and enlightenment like never before?
Are you high AF RN?
@@DS-fi4hfBenzos good then if you hit rock bottom and survive to live and fight another day - drug free Hero’s journey.
These guys are amazing. So interesting and insightful. Lots to think about!
Shame on Jordan Peterstein.
One of the best interviews I have ever seen anywhere. More with Jordan please.
Thank you for being so open minded and doing these "interviews" with so many different people. Keep it on :)
The word that encapsulates what Jordan Peterson was articulating is Logos.
Hi say noting with to much fancy words
Ahh, yes. The Logos made manifest... what an interesting concept. 🤔
@@shonerado Logos is Jesus, God encarnate
Shame on Jordan Peterstein.
It's dementia and brain damage.
One of the best interviews of Jordan Peterson. HUGE kudos to Tom he truly is a great interviewer. Please do this again!
Shame on Jordan Peterstein.
theyre both mentally ill
This has easily been my favorite interview with Dr. Peterson. Thank you !!
fascinating conversation !!!! I really liked the clip that brought me here too !!
"Face your fears, voluntarily: that's the cure." -JBP
Such a great dialogue. Thank you so much for sharing.
Jordan Peterson is one of the most brilliant minds the west has right now. He's a Canadian national treasure. Thank you for interviewing him.
He's also in a sense a world treasure 😍
Wow, that's a lot to unpack! What an amazing interview. Well done.
Absolutely thrilling discussion. Thank you Tom and Jordan!
This is the second peterson video where ive had to pause every few minutes just to appreciate what he said because it was so profound and took so much digesting.
I think he's most likely a little bit above your head and possibly a little bit more intelligent than your understanding. He is a highly intelligent man and without stopping and pausing thinking and meditating sometimes you can't understand what he says and you only see the world through your own lenses that is skewed by inability to objectively look beyond your own perspective or that perspective which has been fed to you by the media
Not speaking to the original poster but the comment
@@marcoaurelio8058Quit trying to shame people for not sharing your selective outrage. Conflict in the middle east is not new. Besides, it's a war not a "genocide", and there are many wars and REAL genocides happening right now. Christians facing genocide in Africa, Uighyers in China. Why not mention those?
Really?? You had to go back because he spews word salad. Just repeats biblical stories and other people work. He’s a fraud.
Every form of addiction is bad, no matter whether the narcotic be alcohol, morphine or idealism.
100%
Yeah there’s not an addiction that is ever positive. By definition an addiction is where you are mentally and emotionally and some times physically attached to one thing that comes over everything else …. No matter what cost.
@jesseb5076 too much of anything is a bad thing. So is too little though. Not enough is a deficiency and too much is and excess. That's disease
Addiction is too much of something but the disease comes from either too much (an excess) of something or not enough. (A deficiency) these are what cause most "dis-ease".
You’re in a pickle if you’re addicted to being addicted 😆
@Domzdream we are all addicts. We overdue everything. And while we are overdoing these things, we are not getting enough of whatever we do need.
I am in recovery since 2015. I am addicted to not being addicted and that makes me very passive because I am afraid of compulsion. So sometimes I can't pay attention for too long. I concentrate really fast and let go of topics. I am just very impulsive. I have character defects, personal deficiencies and inadequacy and for that I used to fill the void chemicals and substances to cope and self medicate. This mode of existence keeps us in stress induced fight or flight where the ego is inflated (anxious) and deflated (depressed) and balance is hard and even more so, hard to recover when I overcompensate. I feel we are all just overcompensating for our inferiorities, feelings of insecurity, inadequacy and powerlessness.
Wowza such an insanely insightful conversation MASSIVE THANK YOU TO YOU BOTH - love your minds
I appreciate Dr Peterson talking about Jesus and paralleling His wisdom to apply to our lives.
Tom you're so brilliant. There is brilliance in the way you decompose language and fundamentally absorb and process how others speak and attempt to translate into your own understanding. I consume a lot of podcasts and I feel no one does this better and in a more impactful way.
You are on to something.
100%
Perfectly put.
Steve please go to 1:38:00 and listen to what Tom fantasizes about xD it's the best part.
decompose language? lol that sounds hilarious
I'm only 20 mins in and I LOVE how RICH this conversation is. I started watching at midnight so I gotta save it for later but it's tempting to stay up late haha.
Really connected with that idea of slogan and the dead words.
Looking forward to watching the rest!
Easily the best JBP interview out there yet! Thank you both!!
What a wonderful discussion between you two guys thank you so so much for sharing !
Thank You so much Mr. Tom and Mr. Jordan. I am so thankful to have had the privilege of listening to this engaging, high quality discussion.
Thank u gentlemen , both of you for sharing such a discussion with us!!!greetings from Greece
thank God, there are discussions as such…
did you like the part at 1:38:15 where Tom steamily told you he pictures himself "hard" and wielding a "big fucking sword"? xD Listen to that part again.
@@kaivogel253 our fight is not against flesh and blood. But powers and principalities in high places.
I wonder if people will ever realize that it is impossible to have good with out evil.
Most people already regurgitate some form of "you can't know the good without the bad," so most already think the way you do. It is, however, a slogan and meaningless. Using actual logic, the presence of both a good and an evil is a trinary, not binary. A binary state is present and not present, good and absence of good. The absence of good is not the same as evil, it is neutral or null. The presence of evil is a third state and is not a contrast to good. Again, the only thing needed to contrast from good is not good (neutral). What most cannot deal with and rarely are challenged on, is what the presence of evil says about the actual design of the Universe and what it says of any entity that potentially made this Universe.
@@EricWhitcomb "The absence of good is not the same as evil" Some would say that it is. I have heard theologians declare just this.
Anyway, this entire line of dialogue is not useful to me. It is hypostatization. If you invent a concept, you can invent rules and properties about it. It may be "logical", but it is not rational. Without knowing the concept exists independently, we are just playing games with our imagination.
David Hume and other philosophers have addressed your last question.
Just the Taoists
@@EricWhitcomb I disagree. First of all you're just parroting "slogan" from Peterson, and that's not even what he meant by that. Secondly, By doing "good" you are simultaneously not doing evil. There is no neutral act. There are varying degrees of each, but none that are truly neutral. This is because good and evil is subject to what your goals are individually and as a society. The base definition for Good/evil is Beneficial/Non-Beneficial. But the notion that you can have one with out the other is asinine because opposition must exist in all things. I think it's safe to say that majority of people, especially westerners, believe in objective good and evil, same as you. I assure you I am an outlier.
Yep, no ying without yang. 😊
What an amazing conversation.
Thank you gentlemen. This was really fun.
This is one of the most insightful interview ive watched with these two men. I love JP! Thank you for having him on.
Can't believe it took almost 20 minutes for Tom to say, "GIve me some space." I appreciate and respect Jordan Peterson immensely, but his constant interruptions while Tom is trying to direct the conversation, and his incessant need to insert complex nuance while Tom is trying to simplify for the audience is making this one hard to listen to.
Uh, how about no. I want to hear the guest talk. Tom talks to much and always tries to sound more intelligent than his guests. Sick of it.
@@samuel_doran You seem to be the only person who feels this way, dude. There are several comments here with the same sentiment as mine, and I've noticed you replied with the same comment to multiple of them, for some reason.
We've all heard Peterson's metaphysical diarrhea. Tom trying to nail down a specific idea and expand on it without Peterson splattering in all directions is nauseating. How much verbal masturbation is Peterson actually capable of?! Clearly a limitless amount.
I almost turned off the interview I couldn’t take the interruptions.
Man, on point!! Would've loved to see how Tom would've led the interview if he could
What a completely compelling and fascinating conversation. These two gentlemen are extraordinary. Why ? Because they have an insatiable appetite to fathom unanswerable questions yet are both prepared to concede ground to each other's wisdom and passion for knowledge. I will ( I suspect, along with many ) rewatch and listen, multiple times, in order to fully appreciate the discourse. Thank you Jordan and Tom 🙏
Wow. This is just beyond amazing 👍🏽
So deep 🔥🔥
Tom. I thought we didn't understand eachother.
I stand corrected.
Where we disagree, I pray that we can dance. May we learn eachother's language.
You have my respect, as well as my subscription.
dance? huh? make sense first before you tap my shoulder and expect DANCE ...who the heck are you? and don't pray for me, i can't stand fanatics, plus , i don't have to learn your langauge, you learn MINE, or go buy your toilet paper someplace else
@@kantraxoikol6914😂
"Truth is a process rather than a set of dead facts." Spectacular interview.
Wow! Been listening for years. Tom this was your #1 ! Mesmerizing
Tom , just today I’m still watching this interview , you are darn talented , the best of the best of all interviews of JBP , you are truly and very carefully wise . Cheers from Mexico , new subscriber .
Mr Peterson's intellect is a once in a century moment. Stay grounded Jordan. Be careful of the power you possess
Then you don't know Chomsky, Zinn, Harris...et al.
Do you perceive him misusing his influence?
@@mindlessjackfoo3393 Hmm, I know all of them. Chomsky is pseudointelectual. He did great work early in his carrier on formal systems of language, but then degenerated into non-thinking leftist. Harris is actually stupid. I never understood why people listen to him. Did you read his books? They are as dump as Main Kampf. Zinn, well, lost soul.
@@_DaneB_ Depends on your perspective, if you are of the mind that the current paradigm and trajectory that humanity is on is the correct path then JP is is a threat, if, however, you believe there are fundamental incongruities in how humans are living and society IS functioning, and it is wrong, that is currently being propagated by those in power, then JP is a lone voice in the wilderness of better ideas, imho, JP is the latter. He is brilliant and his message is desperately needed in todays society.
@@mindlessjackfoo3393 I know them very well. Peterson's intellect towers over them.
I’m so grateful for this! I love Jordan 💎
Shame on Jordan Peterstein.
Such a good interview ❤
❤I LOVE Intelligent people. Thank you × 100000
What an awesome conversation - so glad that I could listen to it and pray that more of us reach such level of consciousness and awareness
Do men want grace in their weaknesses? Then why trash talking women? The ETERNAL sin of Eve? As if Adam didn’t partake? As if Jesus didn’t redeem them? Does it make some males feel like "a man" to do that? And to use the Savior's name as a swear word? They may feel like "a man" doing it, but it's only a deception. Good men, gentlemen, don’t focus blame on women… they don’t project any of their weaknesses onto women. They have grace and mercy and take responsibility for their own progression, help women, and they reverence God’s name, especially the name of Jesus Christ.
What are you talking about?
you realise jordan peterson is mentally ill right?
@@stephtimms1776 If you watch more than just this podcast, that has been qualified by him before. Adam is equally responsible.
I think you doth protest too much perhaps.
@@stephtimms1776 Do you really think he hasn't done those things? That he doesn't have a daughter and a wife? Also a granddaughter, if I'm not mistaken?
Criticism of one group doesn't discount the other.
This is INSANELY good! I am sharing widely. Thank you for this!
Oh, my God! Two hours of civilized, enriching and inspiring change of ideas among two amazing and very different men! We definitely need so much more of this on the internet (and in our own lives, of course)!
The topic discussed here is highly significant and raises critical issues about the state of society, the dangers of totalitarianism, the role of religion and ideology, and the importance of individual responsibility and moral character.
The central theme is the concerning trend towards authoritarianism and the erosion of individual freedoms, particularly in the context of the growing influence of ideologies that seek to control and manipulate people. Jordan Peterson highlights how the combination of pride, resentment, and the desire for power can lead to the perversion of religious and intellectual enterprises, transforming them into tools of oppression and totalitarian control.
The key points raised include:
1. The inherent human tendency towards totalitarianism and the need to be vigilant against it, as exemplified by the historical examples of communism and Nazism.
2. The danger of using simplistic slogans and ideological narratives to justify oppressive actions, rather than engaging in genuine, nuanced dialogue and debate.
3. The importance of individual responsibility and the willingness to confront one's own flaws and biases, rather than projecting them onto others or seeking to impose one's will through force.
4. The role of religion and tradition as repositories of wisdom, but also the risk of their perversion by those seeking power and control.
5. The significance of language, communication, and the ability to articulate one's thoughts clearly as a bulwark against manipulation and deception.
The broader significance of this topic lies in its relevance to the ongoing struggles for freedom, truth, and human dignity in the face of authoritarian tendencies, both political and ideological. By grappling with these complex issues, individuals and societies can better navigate the challenges of the present and work towards a more just and equitable future.
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#Authoritarianism
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#IdealismVsPragmatism
#IndividualResponsibility
#MoralCharacter
#LanguageAndTruth
#FreedomOfSpeech
#CriticalThinking
#SocietalTransformation