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- The show is called, Star vs. the Forces of Evil, but back when "Great Monster Massacre" happened, the alleged "monsters" attacked to resteal Mewni for themselves. And Queen Moon Butterfly is shown battling Toffee in the Grandma room. Was Toffee the previous king of Mewni? What if these monsters aren't evil at all? And what if Toffee is a descendent of the Butterfly family, making him the rightful heir to the Kingdom of Mewni? Could any of this be possible?!
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The show is called, Star vs. the Forces of Evil, but back when "Great Monster Massacre" happened, the alleged "monsters" attacked to resteal Mewni for themselves. And Queen Moon Butterfly is shown battling Toffee in the Grandma room. Was Toffee the previous king of Mewni? What if these monsters aren't evil at all? And what if Toffee is a descendent of the Butterfly family, making him the rightful heir to the Kingdom of Mewni? Could any of this be possible?!
Let us know what you think in the comments! What show should we cover next?
ChannelFrederator Way doo you gays have uluminatti's simbols in your intro change that
Draw like litl Me shut up kid learn grammar
Or maybe the reason toffee knows about the ancient monster temple is because queen eclipsa fled there
Any spell that would please me like a wildlife spell, casting so many animals I can think of.
Headphones, but not just regular one these are indestructible and waterproof.
Honestly, I have been thinking that he was of the Butterfly family ever since the episode where Star was in the "Grandma" Room. He may be Queen Eclipsa's child hence the reason he knew so much about the workings of the Butterfly family.
No matter what you think about the conspiracy one thing is for sure...Toffee is one heck of a great villain.
We agree!
ChannelFrederator WHO IS THE GREATEST VILLAIN!!!!!!????????!??!!!??!
PLEASE MAKE THAT VIDEO!!!!!!!!!!
ALL OF THE VILLAINS!!!!!!!!!
Rachael Ross
The TTG writers, no contest.
Frank James Bailey
yas
NO ONE GOT NOTHING ON HIM
The question that bugs me is:Will Marco's development be touched upon after the whole growing up and then becoming a kid once again deal?From what I have seen that episode might as well be non canon with the way he acts like nothing happened at all which is a real shame since it would have made him so awesome.
That would be really cool if they focused on that in the 3rd season! Even if he was just way more savvy in combat, mentioning some of his time in that dimension it would still show some clear development on Marco's side!
Phan Boy I think they talked about that on one of the marco live things that disneyxd did on youtube
Sandwichy also wouldn't ludo's family be the rightful royal family of the monsters?
Tbh I dont think that Marco really grew up.Maybe he looked grown up but he didnt actually grow up.He mentally stayed 14 which was shown when Star came to save Marco he started acting like himself.If I were a teen boy suddenly turned 30 with abs I would totally try act cool,which I believe was what Marco was doing.He never became mentally 30 he was always 14 in the inside but not visually,if that makes sense. So if they dont continue that,this would probably be the answer to why they didnt.I could be wrong though.they still didnt give is an answer at the end of season 2 on why Marco didnt know his password.
I still think the whole experience in running with scissors is canon.Just not answered yet.
I've been wracking my brain trying to think of someone who could have pulled off Toffee's charismatic yet intimidating glow, and I'm coming up short. I can't see anyone but Dexter in that role. Who do you think would make a good villain in Star vs?
Hope you enjoyed this week's episode!
Maybe Brian Moser?
Good call! Keep it in the family [whoops, spoilers]
Too soon!
Maybe Shadow The Edgehog
SuperLuigiPlayz xD.... "EDGEhog...."
If your "Toffee being Eclipsa's son" theory validates, then that would mean he's Eclipsa's YOUNGEST child. Remember her pedestal?
"Eclipsa. Queen of Mewni. To a Mewman king was wed. But took a monster for her love. And away from Mewni fled."
Her pedestal stated she was married before she met her monster love, so she could have had a daughter with the Mewman and have Toffee with the monster.
Also, who's to say that Eclipsa's monster love wasn't the original king of Mewni's monsters before Mewnipendence Day? In a way, Toffee would have claims to BOTH thrones.
her daughter could be Miss Henious maybe? just spitballing. Or Miss Henious is in Eclipsa's line of lineage somehow
Well, scientifically speaking, if Mewman DNA is Aa and Monster DNA is Bb, the chances of getting a Mewman/Monster hybrid with dominant Monster traits Ba (in theory, Toffee) are 25%. The same thing would count for a Mewman/Monster hybrid with dominant Mewman traits Ab (in theory, Miss Heinous).
So there's a pretty solid chance Toffee and Miss Heinous are the children of Eclipsa and that huge Monster dude.
*Anime Nation:* She could be a relative. I doubt she'd be Star's 8X grandmother.
i know, i meant just in eclipsa's lineage in general
thanks for the info bro. 🙂👍
What if the monster Eclipsa was with was the of the King of the monster monarchy. Toffee's dad would pass on the history of the monster empire and Eclipsa would pass on her knowledge of Mewnie and magic.
Ashley Chamberlain That's a good point! Toffee could be the child of two warring factions, meaning that somewhere down the line he was forced to make a choice in his allegiance
But there might still be room for redemption...
Sandwichy Oooo or maybe he wanted to choose Mewnie's side but had to choose the monsters since at the time Mewnie wouldn't have been ok with a monster, even if he was half royalty to the kingdom. Then later in time he could have become friends with Moon hoping to finally become apart of the Mewnie allegiance, but there was some sort of fall out between him and Moon forcing him to lose his finger and choose the monsters once again.
Now his finger isn't regenerating so perhaps Moon found a spell that could kill him but she isn't strong enough to do it again or to entirely kill him. Star is supposedly as strong as Eclipsa, maybe toffee is scared to die if star finds the spell, so he's trying to dispose of her.
I'm not telling you about my past
you are not villian just fight back munie aka america
I know the betterfly
Eclipsa is frozen in a crystal in the episode crystal clear
So Kawaii That's true! I actually wrote a big long winded thing about why Eclipsa would be crystalized and what this could mean for how Mewni perceives evil, but I had to cut some stuff for time :)
that would be a good video
Sandwichy will we be able to read or watch this?
So Kawaii a fellow kawaii thing we should return to kawaii home world shall we take it you or shall you stay on this miserable unkawaii world your choice
I was born in kawaii land and I decided that that was too kawaii for me i am now a kawaii on earth and I dont want to go back
Toffee is the best villain because unlike every other villain ever, he's smart and actually scary.
Tessa Flood
I wouldn't say ALL villains, I found the Beast from OTGW equally as frightening and intelligent, but Toffee is an incredible villain nonetheless.
What blows my mind even more is how Heinous and Rasticore tie into this. Rasticore is also a Septarsis like Toffee, and Heinous is a royal Mewman as seen by her cheek marks. I feel like understanding their place in this might help us understand where Toffee fits in.
Personally, I feel that Eclipsa was Toffee's lover. The other thing holding her is very clearly a demon, to show she's evil. Why not her son? Because look at Ms. Heinous. She's obviously a Mewman of royal descent with some spite towards Mewmans (remember how she originally addressed Star at St. Olgas?). Plus, remember how she acted towards Rasticor, someone who's half lizard (which Toffee is)? Either Ms. Heinous couldn't gain the throne because she was half monster, so she became obsessed with being like a normal, regular Mewman princess. Or, Eclipsa had a daughter with the Mewman king and as the first born daughter, she was heir.
Actually, that would make sense. That would also explain Ms. Heinous' sharp teeth and charisma. She also had a slight gray undertone to her skin. So, yes, it's possible for her to be the daughter of Toffee and Eclipsa. You could say, "wouldn't that make Ms. Heinous super old?" Well, if she's half Lizard/Toffee, she'd be immortal too. And she seems to have been ruling Saint Olgas for awhile, even Star's mom was threatened with it. Since Ms. Heinous couldn't claim the throne, she could have always strived to prove herself to be worthy of it having felt inferior for being both overthrown by a likely full-Mewman older sister who actually claimed it, and for being half of the most hated beings on Mewni. She seems to be comfortable and close to monsters as well.
not the worst theory about ms heinous.
alize0623 Unfortunately we can tell that's her husband and not her son because they're wearing matching weddings bands on their left hands
Queenie of Queens Who's "he"? We could be talking about any combo of people?
alize0623 if that is true possibly the reason why ms heinous has a school to make princesses perfect is because maybe she is insurcure about it so she wants to she others be perfect Princesses because she dreams to be one and the closest thing to that is making others perfect princesses.
any one wanna talk about how it's toffees hand on the luto wand???? like the sweleton hand on the stone, has no middle finger, perfect for toffees regeneration
remember it says she married a mewman king in into the wand so she could have had a daughter and then then went of with the monster and had toffee
Do you guys really think Star is "ignorant?" I am not asking that in an aggressive manner, to clarify; I really am just curious what other people think. I think she's more silly than stupid. She's had many intelligent moments.
I think really don't think she is, I mean she is only 14, she's already super powerful and already is understanding more about the Monsters history. Willingly learning. If anything, I think her parents' families are ignorant, especially during the Flags episode. Both sides think they're right about everything and both sides think every other way of doing things is stupid and wrong. (like most of the commenters on this website) I think Stars' parents probably were that way too, but before they got married or started becoming an item.
Marcos' parents are a little ignorant too, but it's not like they could do much about their situation of their blissful ignorance. They know nothing about Mewman history or way of life or really anything in relation to magic other than it exists, but seeing how they JUMPED at Stars' present of a Mewnie tour, I'm sure they'd love to learn more.
Jacklin Carter I can agree with that. Star is also definitely more curious than the rest of her relatives, so that is a factor.
Even if she could be considered stupid in the beginning, she's grown very much as a character and I'd even go as far as to say she's smart (especially when she talks with Oskar in "Starcrushed"; she seems to be forcibly dumbing down her sentences in her attempts to communicate with an obviously less sophisticated person).
yea
I don't think Star was being ignorant in the episode as much as very naive. She's the princess of a kingdom, so it's reasonable that she would subconsciously deny anything horrid her ancestors may have done. If we're talking about in general, than I think she's a bit naive and impulsive throughout the show.
Ignorant doesn't mean stupid. It means lacking knowledge or awareness about something. So yes she was ignorant about her own people's history till she really paid attention.
That voice and that hair, he's the true king of my heart :*
my go-to spell would be glitter-birthday-cake-explosion!
That sounds awesome and delicious!
I love this show. i wish marco goes after star!!!! otherwise i'll cry!!!!!!!
Rahne Sharrock If that ship sinks I'm never going near water again
Sandwichy Words of wisdom. Oh yeah, and great video!
Rahne Sharrock calm down everyone it may appear in season 4
Grainne Quinn what do you mean season 4 not season 3.............. how would u know that, season 3 isn't out yet unless it is were u are or you've seen a preview????? Idk anymore
Rahne Sharrock It's been announced that the show is having a season 4, so obviously, the show is going to have a season 3.
I kinda think he was maybe the head of the guard. It's just the way he looks in the Grandma Room. :P
Equally as plausible! He could have been of very few survivors of the Monster Massacre because of his skill in batttle
Emma Morrison THATS WHAT I THOUGHT
what if toffee couldn't grow his finger back because the spell that Moon used to cut it prevents regeneration?It might also probably be toffee's weakness
Long live the king.
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I imagined this in my head... I hate you
Bad Pun
All hail King Toffee!!!!!
Brother!
I used to think Gravity Falls was better.....
Now I'm not sure😥😓
You are not the only person. Hell some people just accepted it and say Star vs. is better!
Jakim Mixon I think GF is better but that's insane bais
That's normal. Gravity Falls was already highly developed while Star Vs. was just getting started on it's storyline. It's easy to judge and compare two things when theres not a lot to back up one of them.
Personally, I say Star Vs. is better. I always knew it was going to be amazing and I had faith in it.
How dare y'all ever compare gravity falls and star vs, Gravity falls is much more developed (although I love star vs) I just personally think the mystery behind gravity falls is attractive, the characters, including the background characters, were put detail into and elaborated if not slightly on, including the fact that everything that has happened (the effect of it) in previous episodes is still felt in the next episodes. In my opinion both gravity falls and star vs are works of modern day cartoon art and should be viewed as equals and not lesser or greater to each other. Obviously I am more towards gravity falls since I haven't been catching up on star but thats OK lol I'll binge tonight.
Gravity Falls is best but I think Star vs the force of evil is slowly catching up
Toffee looks like Slender man........THINK ABOUT IT
o no
Razzle Dazzle Dorito *RAZZLE DAZZLE*
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Toffee looks way cooler in my opinion.
Skorpio Sean Theodd1sout: Think about that.
who's watching this after the battle of mewni?
Me😂😂😂
Mehhh
I am! 🤗
After Cleaved ?!
Well, scientifically speaking, if Mewman DNA is Aa and Monster DNA is Bb, the chances of getting a Mewman/Monster hybrid with dominant Monster traits Ba (in theory, Toffee) are 25%. The same thing would count for a Mewman/Monster hybrid with dominant Mewman traits Ab (in theory, Miss Heinous).
So there's a pretty solid chance Toffee and Miss Heinous are the children of Eclipsa and that huge Monster dude.
Yes more SVTFOE theories please!! 🙌🏼
I would guess that if Toffy is part of the Royal family(by birth). That his mother Eclipse was more likely exiled due to her relationship with a monster. Based on what little we know of her, She is not likely to abdicate anything, much less the throne. Her use of the dark magic and choice of husbands would presumably not fly in Mewni. Thus Toffy might have a grudge against the royal family for his mothers exile and any other rights he might have had to the throne. It is still a shaky theory but makes more sense assuming exile over abdication.
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My go to spell would be something that makes people see/understand the other side of a conflict. Not force it upon them like mind control, but simply show them, allowing them to make their own, fully informed decisions.
this theory was the most sold one i've heard when it comes to toffe being king of mewni.
If I had access to Star's wand, I would use a spell called "Taco Takedown"
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StrqfeDoesThings XD congrats!
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Honestly what I do think what happened is that Toffee did use to be the king of monsters as another life form or completely different looking, As for that then he could've passed away as a rule for a long long time before the mewmans had arrived to their place. So when Queen Eclipsa had come into power it may be so that he was "Reborned" into what he is now and is given/granted the power of immortality, So if that would be true it's one hell of a plot twist.
It would be wonderful if you did A Part 2 to this I love cartoon conspiracies and I love star butterfly and I have so many more questions
ChannelFrederator I have a Cartoon Conspiracy theory for you, Where do the teenage mutant ninja turtles get there money for all the pizzas they eat?😕
MICHAEL HOPP merchandise, duh
or Better Theory: Toffee Is Star's Real Father
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There are a piece of data regarding Eclipsa that I believe need to be mentioned.
In the episode "Page turner" Glossaryck says this: "the only Butterfly to leave me be was your x9 grandmother Eclipsa..." regarding Moon trying to tell him how to train Star
From this I believe is safe to assume two things: Eclipsa is a direct GRANDMOTHER to Star, not an aunt or anything, so she must have inherited the throne to a child of hers thus continuing the direct line that leads to Star.
And second, that child, trained with Glossaryck while Eclipsa was still around.
I personally believe Toffee as being son of Eclipsa, or at the very least, a descendant of hers. But in order for this to work, Eclipsa needs to have had at least two children: One with her Mewman husband, a daughter who inherited the wand, and Toffie, with her Moster lover after she fled from Mewni with him.
"I'm not gonna lie to you, this episode's gonna get a little weird."
Me: Yeah that makes sense, the title of the theory is pretty cra-
"And it may or may not get a little wild."
Me: Goddammit.
What Confuses Me The MOST About Toffee Is That, He Can Grow Back Limbs, But He Can't Grow Back His Finger. HOW?!?!?🤦🏾♀️
Magical finger...?
Marissa Crosby Its because Queen Moon cursed it.
the most powerful spell --- ask queen moon
MAAAAAAAAAGIIIIIICI
'Cause queen Moon cast a spell on him for killing an immortal being
What if Queen Eclipsa has been shown in the wrong way ? What if actually she's the good guys ?
We've seen Eclipsa has a terrifying queen who betrayed the royal family but what if it was just a misunderstanding ?
Before you yell, just remember that Glossaryck, the most powerful being in the world always saw her as the wisest and nicest individual in front of him. All the princesses he had were rude and selfish.
Nothing from the show gave me the idea that Toffee was either the Monster King and/or love child of Eclipsa and her monster lover I just thought he was a disgruntled monster with an actual effective plan on how to get rid of Mewmans and re-establish themselves on their lands. However, Glossaryck does mention once to Queen Moon that Eclipsa was her 9th grade grandmother meaning Eclipsa did produced an heiress to the Mewni throne before she left her throne and Mewman consort to be with her true love. If Toffee is Eclipsa's son or just her descendant is a possibility, but he still wouldn't be the rightful heir of Mewni unless her monster lover was also a somewhat direct descendant of the original rulers of what became Mewni (unless that has always been the name of the place) and hence he's just a pretender to the Mewni throne in that scenario. But Ludo's family seems to be some kind of royalty to begin with, so what can that mean? Are they some kind of token government to the mosnters and clients/suzerainty to the Kingdom of Mewni? Her majesty, Queen Moon, seems to worry for them yet seemed unaware of their situation when she sought their help. I mean if I'm not mistaken didn't Star's father say he loves to fight monsters? what can that mean to the larger canon when your mother is somewhat sympathetic to monsters and your father loves to hurt them?
So many unanswered questions, can't wait for season 3! Also, I believe they renewed "Star vs. the Forces of Evil" for a forth season the week the second ended so we have plenty of show left and hopefully it can run for at least its 6th season!
after the finale of season 3, we would have to change this theory a little bit. my theory is that toffee became king after globgor, the monster king, was crystalised, which is why we see eclipsa in stars flashback.
I kind of love the theory that Toffee is Eclipsas son
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Delicious AND cute! Star would be proud :)
Sandwichy just a question but wouldn't ludo's family be the monster royalty?
Clawix: My mind is now clear…
Sinnix: I… Still can't get all these theories together yet…
Your point on the regeneration of toffee's character seems Doctor Who-ish enough, but your point on that he took over ludo's body actually reminds me of one of the Doctor's villains/adversary the master-who sometimes took a body for his regenerations/incarnations...didn't you know that? Mostly..?
First, hell yeah. Toffee is the eternal Dark Lord sent by the Flying Spaghetti Monster to fight Star Butterfly in a trial by combat. He is no "king" I'm pretty sure Moon Butterfly almost wiped his entire race in an act of retaliation. HE SEEKS REVENGE.
Am I being serious? That's up for interpretation.
Is this a cartoon or "game of thrones?" WTF?
Someone needs to make a GoT music video with the Star Vs theme song just for fun.
Rewatching the show (getting hyped for season 3) I noticed two things in Great Monster Massacre that, at least to me, shows proof of the First King theory. First as Ludo and Toffee are watching through the fake All Seeing Eye, Toffee is reading a book on Mewini royalty and is open to a chapter on wands. Second when Ludo and Toffee are watching the reenactment, Toffee scowls and clutches his hand making it seem like he is remembering the actual battle, like he was there.
In the episode 'Baby', star is linked as being as powerful as Eclipsa at her age - this could be the reason the image of her was shown in the first place. Or maybe because she is linked to her it falls upon Star's shoulders to deal with Eclipsa's child as Eclipsa abdicated/denied the responsibility to do so to her own child and Star is the next person who could/is destined to deal with him.
Toffe is not the king. He was fighting Moon because he wanted revenge on Mewni
Is it possible that, instead of being Eclipsa's son, Toffee was Eclipsa's lover?
The spell allowing Toffee to possess Ludo could have been an effort of Eclipsa's to preserve her lover, especially if he died prematurely. (Think Elphaba turning Fiyero into the Scarecrow in Wicked)
Eclipsa abdicating the throne also brings up the question of the wand's succession. Did she take the wand when she fled the kingdom? Or did she leave it behind? If she had taken it with her, and if Toffee was her lover, then it would allow an opportunity for Toffee to gain possession of the wand.
Another question worth considering is Queen Moon's spell.
"The immortal monster will long be haunted by the darkest spell of Moon the Undaunted."
What was Queen Moon's darkest spell? And what effect did it have on Toffee?
Another thing I'd like to point out, just a little tangent, is Miss Heinous and Rasticore. At the end of the episode "Heinous," we see Miss Heinous removing makeup from her cheeks, revealing a pair of clubs, similar to other Mewman royalty. In addition, she takes a moment to fawn over her lizard-minion's arm, which has regenerated an elbow.
Toffee and Rasticore have plenty of similarities that I would like to see explored.
I think that the monster that is holding Eclipsa was apart of the monster uprising and told his son stories and probably showed him somethings.Also when Star is in the gram-room and reads the story of Eclipsa out loud she says that a mewnie king she wedd but took a monster for her love and away mewnie she fled so that can mean she had a child with her king/husband and then when she fled she had another child with the monster?
I think Eclipsas monster love was and/or still is the king of monsters and Toffee was his right hand man. So he would know about the wrong that had befell Queen Eclipsa and Metiora, giving him a motive for revenge, and could have assisted in Metioras magical studies, giving him knowledge of the whispering spell and the forbidden chapter of the spell book.
just for fun ;if he had this spells what u think he could do www.deviantart.com/jgss0109/art/Hekatia-s-Forbidden-Spells-669995255
What if he was a former king turned INTO a monster?
I have a theroy
what if henious is Eclipsa and toffee's daughter and what if Eclipsa never left since she was crystallized and mewmans just thought she fled and that why henious has the club symbol on her cheeks. ♤♡♢♧ dun dun dun
i j my name. Henious is eclipsa daughter
7:02. My favorite moment in all of Star vs The Forces of Evil is when he makes that face.
1:01 I was looking at my primary monitor at this point, eyes darting between the 2 occasionally, when i heard this my jaw dropped. I think I'm gonna watch this show now
I think that toffee is actually the monster that eclipser ran away with
Tyler Jones no
Meme Phobia why???
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why???לירון טל
Because eclipse allows moon to kill him
toffe should be king
finely someone that thinks like me
All hail King Toffee!!!!
In my opinion Toffee is the monster that Eclipsa ran away with and married. I don't think the monster in her mural was her hubby. The reason the finger could be a big deal is maybe that was his ring finger? That could be why Moon blew it off and why Toffee cares about getting it back. It once held the ring that bound him and his wife in holy matrimony.
Or he could just want it back because Moon blew it off. Who knows.
This is the second time I watch this and thanks to this I binge watch star vs the forces of evil
toffe!?
more than
COFFE!
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What if Toffee is the unnamed monster that Queen Eclipsa fled with
No
David Turner Toffee could be
Nope
"I am within my first hour of regeneration, so I can do this"(regenerates severed hand)"AND THIS NEW HAND IS A FIGHTING HAND!" David Tennant Christmas 2005
Ludo seems blast-proof or somewhat immortal.
He survived blasts from whispering spell. He survived outer space. It's either ludo's family has something to play as an escape route via resurrection prophecy.
As for Toffee, he's referred to as the general or the lizard. Maybe his dad was the king and his mom is Eclipsa.
Ludo was rather annoying than villainous
Go to spell? The one that summons Bill cipher and revived him (bill has been referenced by Marco before)
Smasherfan88 WHEN?
Chancellor in a marco live thing that disneyxd did on their youtube channel
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Oh my
Look at 10:59
The unnamed monster's middle finger.........
The temple he is talking about is where Eclipsas Husband is crystalized
Who is the headmistress of the home for wayward princesses?
She had the cheek marks too right?
aaaaand (Spoiler)
he's dead.
Eclipsa was married to a Mewman before she ran away with her monster love. She probably had a daughter with him but it was a child born out of the union and not of love since it's expected that once married she must produce an heiress. Toffee maybe the love child between Eclipsa and the unnamed monster.
Eclipsa and her first husband was most likely an arranged marriage with no love between her and her husband but they still had to follow tradition and produce an heiress with their union.
Points to Remember:
It is stated that Eclipsa is the Ninth Great Grandmother of Star, meaning that Star's Eighth Great Grandmother was the daughter of Eclipsa. If this was not the case and the throne went to a sister or niece then Eclispsa would be Star's Grandaunt.
-Therefore Eclipsa did have a child that succeeded her throne
-The Pedestal also stated that Eclipsa was married to a Mewman King, so this supports the fact that she had pure mewman children and any children with a monster after that is younger than any true successor
Toffee is likely to be a successor of the monster monarchy and have Mewman blood however:
-If Toffee has regeneration and immortality then why would his father be dead? And if monsters can in fact die, and Mewmen die, then where did his immortality come from?
-If his power of regeneration is hereditary from his father, then why would Toffee ever gain the throne anyway? His father would just have the throne in his grasps 'til the end of time.
Toffee being the original king of monsters, does raise a few questions though:
How did he lose his throne?
Why does no one remember him if he was thrown off of his thrown?
And how did the monsters gain its "government," it is currently using if Ludo didn't come until much later?
Just a few thoughts on this whole subject....^^
Watching the theory and thinking: Man, I hope Toffee is alive!
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TOFFEE IS DEEEEAAD BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
well my mind has been officially BLOWN
in the episode "mudependent day" toffee is seen reading a book about wands so that explains why he knows the first spell that moon taught star because all the queens probably did the same it's like a rule that will protect the daughter of the queen .
I preffer Coffe
Toffee + Coffee = Pure genius
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toffe just wants his finger....
Okay, I know that the monster Eclipsa married was red and all that stuff, but there's still a possibility that Toffee IS that monster. (It could also link to the theory of him being the monster-war leader or Eclipsa and the monster's child, whatever theory you want). Just hear me out:
1. Toffee is an 'immortal monster', so he's probably lived long enough to have existed in Eclipsa's reign.
2. POSSESSION- in the season 2 finale, we know that Toffee has the ability to possess people (albeit, he needs the wand's crystal). If the things I've just said is true, then we can assume that the monster also has possession. Maybe Toffee's body (the one without the middle finger) is just someone that Toffee possessed.
1) It could be why no one really recognised Toffee without past experience. Maybe to protect him, Eclipsa made him possess another monster to protect his identity.
2) It would explain his grudge against the Butterfly family.
3) He would have a connection to Eclipsa (hence all of that magic knowledge).
I don't know, just a thought.
(The video stopped a long time ago whilst I wrote this, gosh.)
Eclipsa is actually "frozen" with that weird snake hands thing
TOFFEE KILLED MOONS MOM.
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"... or Ludo's Family"
I have the benefit (or is it curse) of having seen this long after season 3 aired, but Ludo's family is pretty messed up, too, except one of his brothers.
Wait, what if Toffee was eclipsa's brother, maybe he had some deformity, or he was Eclipsa's adopted brother, that would make him the rightful heir to the throne. Or maybe toffee is Eclipsa's monster lover reincarnated, exacting revenge on the mewmans that shunned and exiled his love.
First
Sonic screech - basically let's out a huge screech bursting the eardrums of those close by for a few seconds
Did anyone notice how the pads that toffee wears on his shoulders when he meets moon for the first time has eclipsa's symbol
My go-to spell would be "somnolent perception phase shift" where the perspective of things may become real as if they were from a dream i.e. a tree in the distance is actually in the foreground but is small.
Notice how Toffee clenched his fist while watching the reenactment of Mewnipendence day. Maybe he wasn't the king of monsters, but the prince. Maybe as a little kid, he lost his family and blames the Butterfly family for it. It's even possible that he might have even been Eclipsa's monster lover in that span of time, but her being captured truly pushed him over the edge, becoming the villain that Star and Moon saw.
Maybe the unregenerable finger is the curse and prevents him from regenerating back to full power? AKA once he gets the finger re-attached, he'll massively grow in power and everyone is totally screwed. The finger "didn't belong" because it wasn't cut off, it was *stored in the wand* , where he could never, ever get it back. (unless, say, the wand was broken...)
If I had Star's wand my 'go to spell' would be "penguin parade". It's similar to narwhal blast but with penguins and it's more powerful. Plus after you use the spell all the penguin chase after whatever you used the spell on and peck at it
My ideal spell would be Golden Flayme, because the fire of love conquers all. (Don't try to understand the name... it's a name I made up, the added "y" in "Flayme" is to make it sound Archaic.)
More and more monsters poured out from the trees. Not only Septarians now, but Avarians and merfolk and daemons, squirrel-men mounted on warnicorns and pig-goats. Dozens of monsters. Hundreds of monsters. A wave of banners flew above them, the winds were whipping them too wildly for Marco to see the sigils, but he glimpsed green, so much green. Green banners with yellow devices. _Whose arms are those?_
East and north and north-east, he saw bands of Johansens trying to stand and fight, but the attack is rode right over them. The Mewmen still had the numbers, but the attackers had hardened cornbread armor and heavy warnicorns. In the thickest part of the fray, Marco saw Queen Moon standing tall in her armor, its ornate design and her butterfly-winged helm made her easy to pick out. She had her sword raised and Mewman were rallying to her, when a wedge of mounted monsters smashed into them with lance and sword and long axe. Moon's warnicorn went up on her hind legs, kicking, and a spear took her through the breast. Then the steel tide washed over the Queen.
_It's done,_ Marco thought, _they're breaking._ The Mewmen were running, throwing down their weapons. Johansens and peasant levies and valiant knights in their armor, they were running. Moon was gone, someone was waving a monster's head on a pole, King River's lines had broken. Only the Pony Heads were holding, floating glittery islands in the red steel sea. The fires were leaping from tent to tent, and some of the corn crops were going up as well. And through the smoke, another wedge of monster riders came on armored warnicorns, floating above them were the largest banners yet: Royal standards as big as sheets, a dark green one with painted butterflies with a white skull with the Butterfly cheek-marks, and a another a sheet of royal vert with a yellow cob of corn rippling in the wind.
_Star!_ Marco thought for one mad moment, remembering poor Glossaryck. But when the trumpets blew again, and the monsters charged, the name they cried was "Toffee! *Toffee!* *TOFFEE!* "
Great timing because I just got finished catching up yesterday
Personally I think Eclipsa created a spell which makes the unamed monster she loved immortal by possessing someone so with this supposition we can assume that the unamed monster is Toffee but he just get through the time by possessing monsters after monsters
Actually, Ludo seems to be the royalty there given the crowns his parents wear
I haven't been able to watch all of the video yet since it keeps lagging, but had anyone noticed the hat/skull Ludo wears looks like the same monster Toffee seems to be?
never have I thought that frickin Disney channel would be making higher quality shows than CN and Nick...
My go to spells would be either the "sideways gyser of arachnophobia," or "jawbreaker and twizzler golems.
The only way that Toffee could be both Eclipsa's son and the previous king of monster land would be if the previous king possessed Eclipsa's son, but that's convoluted and had no evidence.
Two interesting things you guys should look into is why eclipsea is frozen in lechmens and time out guys house, and that Marco was tainted by eclipseas part of the book.