Too many Wonderkids? (Saving Your Saves)
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- čas přidán 2. 08. 2024
- There are a couple of things that always present themselves in saving saves. FM issues with tactics that lead to underperformance, terrible finances, terrible teams, bad scouting, bad players, and tough dynamics. But, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a situation like the one I used for the title here. What happens when you’re good at the game, but getting unlucky? How do you take the fact that you have succeeded a lot in the past and turn it into reliable success so you aren’t worried enough to send a save file to me?
I got u. That should probably be the title of this series, honestly. I always enjoy going through these saves because I learn a little bit about the game every time I dive into it. Football Manager is unique in that every situation you ever find yourself in is different than the last one. The tactic and attribute combo you’re using is never exactly the same, even match to match. No two wonderkids are alike. This is also good because I will be able to make SYS episodes until the end of time. So, strap in, because I’ll be making these from my rocking chair.
Much Love,
FM Senpai
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#FootballManager #Gaming #Hashtags - Hry
So the main problem i see here is that people don’t WIRE THE WORLD
Zealand, now we are at the end of fm21’s life cycle can we get the series we really need; fm21 brag your save, where people can show off a save they are proud of and wish the for the world to see.
YES!!!!! Z PLEASE
Yes
showcase your save
As a pathological save scummer, I support this.
"No club should spend $72 million without being in the champions League group stages."
Sad arsenal noises
To be fair he's talking about actual football clubs, not Arsenal
@@James_Byron You're not helping with his mental state, lad
@@James_Byron lol
Benfica....
@@danielgomes5778 benfica has been ….
My toxic trait is making a realistic formation and expecting it to work.
Same its so annoying. You create something that works in Real Life is everything is fine but in the end you need to change to „Cross goes brrrr“ and win everything
You sound like Guardiola in last mins of many games🤣
I do the same. why is that toxic
Yeah, fm is realistic, except for tactics, they are broken
Outside of gegenpress any other effective tactic will stop working after 4-5 months. Not to mention a lot of realistic tactics barely work. Parking the bus is usually a effective and realistic tactic, but on FM its complete dogsh*t
I once used the FM editor put a manager who had park the bus as his favorite tactic into the game, he had only 20's as his rating
And no matter what he did, every team he joined DECLINED when he joined
@@adrian225 I've been pretty successful with control possession
that “Pim de Zwart” pronunciation was actually amazing
Not really
@@Rizgn how
@@Rizgn yes it was
My biggest problem in FM is that I never sell wonderkids even if they don’t fit. I’ve always added the occasional buy-back clause in case they get good.
15:35 Benfica in real life ahahahahaha
"You spend 72M, you have to be in UCL"
pensei o mesmo quando ele disse isso!
Epah foda se
😂😂
Cabrão ahaahh
Portugas unidos
Zealand, contact Kev (Lollujo) and ask him if you could analyze his team/system/instructions in his current Holme FC save. Personal opinion: his save (mainly due to Kevs stubbornness, extremely bad tactical decisions and transfer policies) became the most frustrating thing to watch in FM CZcams history. Would like to see a video on that. Thanks in advance.
Why would anyone waste time with a guy who buys 10 goalkeepers and still never has one on the bench in matchdays
@@valmeida6846 kev doesn’t minmax his gameplay and for me at least that makes it more compelling
Thanks Z for Saving my Save! Just won the Europa League with my Rostock team in 2028 with basically the same tactic, just an improved team (like you recommended). Came in 4th in the league, but with 15 pts between myself and 5th place, so I'm definitely at the top tier of German teams now.
I’ve never played football manager. But I thoroughly enjoy watching your videos. Keep up the good work.
Love saving saves vids! Hope you're well Zealand.
The shirt is out, instant like
Catching up on a Zealand video gives me joy and makes me forget the pain of being a Spurs fan for a few minutes
i can’t help but wonder if people even watch your videos when i see their scouting assignments. You basically repeat yourself most SYS episodes
It's the case for most people asking for help in life though: they don't actually do the work necessary and wonder why they don't have stellar results... If watching Zealand taught me anything in FM (and life) is if you thoroughly do the work the results will materialize.
whats the answer then? :D
@@laimis96 lmao
Zealand, I wanted to thank you for your advice about where to send scouts. I'm managing Ipswich, got into the prem and within 7 season have qualified for the Champions League. I've signed several Columbian and Argentinian wonderkids that my scouts found. I signed 1 columbine for 2.5 and sold hom for 57 million English pounds.
My latest sale was my Captain and Star player, Regen Diego Mattea. Signed for 8.75 and sold to Athletico Madrid for wait for it.........£144 million! Thanks very much!
Could you do a fm21 save and have 2 wonderkids with same great striker stats but have one with a perfect personality and one with a awful one, just want to see have great the effect is over 10 yrs.
Interesting experiment
And playing 4-4-2
Personality change year by year and with strong teamates. Sorry for my English.
@@alexkontoulhs3643 not if they are over 23, i thought personality changes stop from then?
@@djmat2006 you are right i think, but at 23 its not wonderkid. Its foul ready player.
Saving saves saves my week
The title is so relatable to me rn, i have 5 cdm with 3 stars (currently) and 5 stars potential.
4:45 the is Why it is the only FM CZcams channel I never want To miss
every time Zealand says buy wonderkids i spend 200 million on one 30 year old
Basically you're Barcelona from last 5 years
So basically you pull a 30 rock Steve Buscemi. "How do you do, fellow kids?"
@@avikbhattacharjee9049 and then release them for free
@@josephmcgowan6212 😂😂
props for the pronounciation of Den Haag
Love these videos and also want to shout myself out for saving my save by buying a random winger who made it into the best under 21s team and is now tearing it up in the second German division
Why are these videos so addictive ? 👁_👁
As a Flamengo fan, I am very curious to see that last save you couldn't open
Provavelmente jogo pirata com alguma incompatibilidade com o de verdade.
@@James_Byron será que não pode ser algo com o brasil mundi up tbm? não sei se isso poderia acontecer uasdkljsfj
As someone who just signed 2 wonderkids to a newly promoted prem team, I feel personally attacked!
I like this guy!
That 1st team is basically like my 1st Juventus save during the 2022-23 season. Lotta good solid players but with no Ronaldo to carry them up to that next level.
12:21 - for an idea of the levels of players, I had Tanganga and Oddei at Dundalk in a similar year...
Tanganga, though has antiquate attributes for a wide defender, he was far more accomplished at centre back
Yeah I would use Tanganga as my 3rd center back, and sometimes sub him on at right back if needed
Ye, Hansaaa, go Hansa!
Save my country I want my team to win the euros
But Zealand can't tell them to loan. He won't know what to do
@@Roscododger lmao
@@Roscododger not stonks
shut up
Eeky Abotu is the new Cherno Samba
Do you have a video on how to identify if a young player will be awesome or not?
You should do an attribute test but flipped so everything's 20 but 1 is a 10 rating
I just watched one of your videos and you recommended raising the depth of your line. You said that is what good teams do. I did that and immediately had the worst game of my entire franchise giving up five goals to a shit opponent. What the fuck?
Hey Zealand. Could you make a video about what the expected range of attributes should be on your wonderskids based on their age? With that I mean: If you say get a brazilian wonderkid that is 18 years old, what should his stats look like compared to say a 22 year old brazilian wonderkid? What is the expected level your wonderkids should be at, at what age?
It depends a lot on 4 hidden attributes: professionalism, consistency, injury prone and big matches. Also game time. A wonderkid with those attributes on the high would be maxed out by the age of 22
Wonderkid is simply a media description for how good they perceive the player to be at a young age. The best players in the world can increase say 5+ in each attributes. I’d focus more on how good they are based on their age and what a good scout says their potential is. If you see they seem to have a long way to go and their not super young then likely they won’t reach that potential. May just take more experience in playing the game. Every player is different and attributes are different based on position.
Won the bundesliga 3 years straight, one time completely unbeaten, still always failing in the round of 16 in the champions league - - love it ^^
I’m the opposite. Finally won the prem in my 6th season (4 point difference despite being way ahead at Christmas) after years of bottling it but won 3 champions leagues in a row
@@danlewis5977 might be due to the overall quality of the prem compared to the bundesliga (and even the champions league), but fm is always super strange ^^ I also won the conference league and Europa league in the progress of messing up my champions league record, so that's at least something haha
random question but who is the Fabio Silva of FM21?
i like ur shirt zea
Zealand with a vacuum in his hands? Mombot has to be wondering who this is and where the real Zealand is.
"The Boondis leega" 11:42
17:11 i understood the opposite, he has defensive weaknesses and wants to defend better
the way he pronounced ado den haag ... atleast you tried hahaha
zeeland, show your followers that it's possible by subtitle translated into multiple languages on all your videos. I see your videos with Portuguese subtitles and I have learned a lot. Congratulations.
That first guy just needs to spend that money. Simple answer...
have I missed the sys stream??
This video is gud gud
I am still playing fm 2020, i feel like my scouts are returning so few players even with 15-20 adaptability and not super specific or difficult assignments in my Andorra FC game. Almost feels like a bug, is there a way to fix it?
What is the potential ability they are looking for? If your team is great you should be looking for good potential / 3 stars. Likely you are asking your scouts to only find world class potential players hence the few reports
New subscriber here, how do I submit my team for this?
Hey. Can i send a savefile of fm 2020? Or you only analyze 21 save files?
What song is playing in the background?
Realizing how unbalanced the FM21 engine is in regards to tactics kinda ruined the game for me. Low block is extremely disgustingly unrealistically bad, counterpress is overpowered. Lida 4132 seems to be miles better than any other tactic in game, no matter which players you have. Even if your players cant really play their positions in the 4132 it is so much better than meticulously crafting a specific tactic to fit your players. In my save i took over Norwich at 20th and got them to 14 same season and then 7th after one season with 0 purchases. Fiorentina from 19th to fifth in half a season without any new players either. Shadow strikers seem to have much more intelligent movement in regards to coming deep, finding channels and running in behind. Also wish they kinda had something else than just rep and EL/CL qual to make players come to smaller clubs, something like manager hype or known great development among players there last season, people wouldnt join my 7th place Norwich team that was filled with youth and shredding teams like city, like what?
the title can probably be right, but i think some wk in my saves are bad
Any ca and pa video?
Where do I post my save to you maybe see it ?
Wonder if i can send in my FM09 save........
Mr. America man, how and where do I send saves?
Im addticed make all mid and back to get trait knuckle pass
"Maybe making a pass"
So many editors active, ya damn cheats!
I have mine active so I can apply my regen face pack, I don't blame right away
This is such a stupid assumption, if people wanna cheat they can do it without the editor. I leave it open so if the game breaks or gets too easy I make it work again or make some other clubs better
Oh, you're one of THOSE players. No one likes a snob.
When did people stop understanding sarcasm? Geez, fellas.
@@aach8243 all love
I can related to guy managing Rostock in Bundesliga. I have a $22Mil deficit. I can understand why your budget is what it is and the reason for the transfers you've made. But if you're scouting that much; please follow it up. The least that could happen is that you get a great player for the money you have.
Do you ever revisit these saves to see how they're doing now?
can you look at FM20 save please
Should I use the vacuum in a Premier League save? I might have problems with work permission
What about if I'm in Championship?
It’s harder in England because of work permits, but it works if you have a loan farm for EU nationality
Where can we submit?
Z, can you come and Hoover my flat!
does he play on steam or microsoft store
Hi Zealand
i am very confused. my watford save on fm20 has everything below average on team reports but ive been unbeaten for 1 and 3/4 premier league seasons. i'm now in my 3rd season at watford.
ive won:
FA cupx2
premier league x1
champions league x1
super cup x1
carabao cup x2
club world championship x1
How high your team decision making? My notts County team came 4 and 1st after promotion. I thought I built a good team but it actually very average except decision making which was number 1
Maybe you're using a broken tactic?
How to improve when my team is under average on comparison tab everywhere
Loans! Do you even watch Zealand?
@@BlaZeNuKe yes i use loans
@@lukaluka4868 Better loan and get rid of your shit players, they make the average go down, if you have Halland and a Vanarama South striker in the club the average will be low, just see if the depth in your squad is actually worthwhile.
You can't have too many wonderkids
Alguien que hable español y me explique de que trata este video? Entre por la palabra wonderkids pero no entendí más
Wondering how someone got Plymouth to the prem by 2024 without editing in game
thats definitly possible with a lucky championchip season by 2024
Just loan in really OP players and used an overpowered tactic
Not out of the realms of possibility. I’ve done similar things by abusing op tactics and loans.
It's genuinely really easy to get up from L1/L2 to the prem in successive seasons. Staying there first year is hard once the money hits properly its increasingly easy.
Lots of luck tbh, definitely didnt use the editor though aha!
I have a player on my team, he have scored 102 goals in 134 matches, but finishing is still only 12, what to do?
Don't worry about it. The stats are what really matter.
A good striker has high levels of composure and strength. It's something Zealand showed in one of his experiment videos. BUT still I've seen him downplaying players with 10-13 finishing lol
Finishing is just one attribute of many that contribute to goal scoring.. like all attributes they can be important. Strength pace accel composure dribbling first touch technique and like 10 others help players score goals.. not just finishing. You can try to focus training it to improve it a bit but likely there’s something better for that player to train, or if old enough work on a trait.
Up the Argyle
Can someone please tell me the outro music?!
Molife - Nite Glo
Is it always important to look at team reports?
I remember one time when I somehow manged to get relegated from the Premier league with Liverpool when I had zlatan Ibrahimovic, Cristiano Ronaldo, neymar Jr, mbappe, Raheem sterling and David alaba in team all together.
How that happen o.o
How dare you snub Edwin Mendoza.
FLAMENGO❤️🖤
I find it really hard to understand when Zealand says a player is good enough or not. Like I see a lot of green numbers, even in the stats relevant for that position and then he says the guy isnt good enough?
It's about potential. The players with 3-4.5 stars on this save are NOT GREAT because that 4 stars is in comparison to the other players on the same team (not the league or world). Wiring the world and scouting popular regions for hot prospects will find some super studs with actual insane stats
@@loganfriesen8145 I'm sorry, I wasn't clear. I mostly meant like Attributes. The guys at for example the ADO save have like so many high green stats in the good areas but he still calls them not good enough and I don't really know how I quantify that
@@ShinySwalot It's quantified as relative to your opponents/league. You need to be very aware of what level of players your league has in terms of bottom teams, mid table teams and top teams. A player might be great for a team trying to avoid relegation but a bench warmer in a top team. Study others teams long enough and you'll get an intuitive sense on what level is good enough for which objective.
15:42 not Arsenal using 150mil without any European football 😬
Fairly narrow and play down both wings..yeah..loke that's going to work..duh.
ado is pronounced ah-dough ;) greatest team with abysmal miserable historical stats....but what can you do as resident of the Hague :(
Zealand... its not 'goals allowed'.. that's a girl band from the naughties..
It's Goals Against
Like the opposite of Goals For
Hey man his American imperfections are what makes this channel gold. Don't try to educate him to much 🤣
Were you in a bad mood this day? Telling like it is and not pulling any punches
I also like hoarding kids in my house zee. Am I doing it right?
In my AC MIlan save i have consistently lost over 100 million For a couple years but i always mange to sell my young players and last year i generated about 550 million from player sales
You say ado as 1 word
What the h*ll is it with Hertha BSC Berlin in FM? Capitol bonus? Every position in the Bundesliga even close to Europeen competition would be a peak for decades for this club...
I like to have extreme amount of wonderkids.
does Zealand actually think GA means goals allowed not goals against?
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Zealand
Your tactics are just poor and prob have players who don't fit. I play symple 4321 and works mostly. I don't want to trick the game. By making a unrealistic tactic and winning everything.