Maestro Suspension Technology: The Secrets of Superior Suspension | Giant Bicycles
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- Whatever your choice in mountain terrain, Maestro Suspension Technology expands your bike’s capabilities and boosts your performance. From ripping-fast trail bikes to burly downhill machines, it’s an adaptable rear suspension platform that gives you more control, traction, comfort and speed.
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Been riding a 2011 Trance since I bought it and I'm still amazed after a long downhill how beautifully it performs. You know you have something special when every ride you go "oh wow!" with a big smile on your face. I don't think I could ever get a different brand.
Best climbing full suspension ever ! I love my 2022 Trance X 27.5
Proud owner of Giant Reign II with Maestro..
It's been lovely since 2010.
😋
Agree, it works phenomenal
Regarding all the comments on Maestro and climbing prowess - My $0.02: I'm riding a 2021 Trance X 29-2 and I find that having the DPS in the down position really helps in climbing. I do find some pedal bob in the open position but the switch to the down position takes like 0.25 seconds so I don't see an issue. And, as everyone has echoed, the downhills and over rocky/rooty terrain is where the Maestro shines. I've taken crazy downhills that I should have been tossed off/over the bike and the Trance X handles it.
Trance X gang. 👊🏻
@@ShredTactix Update - I've upgraded the stock Giant wheels to Industry Nine Enduros with Hydra hubs and installed a OneUp carbon riser bar. Bike rides completely different in a better way - 1.5 lbs. lighter and much more spritely. Would recommend these upgrades to any Trance X aluminum-framed owners.
@@billrose2339 The wheels are on my list for sure! I’ve been deciding between the i9s and the Hunt Enduro Wide. I’ve run Hunts on my gravel bike, but that’s the only experience I have.
Over 10years of mountain biking, I had tried Giant, Specialized and Trek full suspension mountain bikes with their respective suspension technologies, from Maestro, Brain, APV, etc. Specialized's suspension is one of the most efficient and near zero pedal bobs and followed very closely by Trek. Giant's Maestro is on top when it comes to riding comfort and plushness. I prefer Maestro especially on harsher trails or terrain. If you want to race on smoother climbs and flats, Specialized and Trek are better.
You want to know the real secret, giant maestro is a copy of DW link and trek's FF and it performs very similar as well as other brand with the same "Floating suspension" but what makes trek abp and DW SP better because it's the only true sus. tech to eliminate 99% of the brake jack that means it's a better suspenion for aggressive decenders... But for me i prefer maestro over vpp and spec brain but spec fsr and Dw suspension are just superior for long travel AM bikes, just being unbiased you know some of these brands have different sus. Tech for their specific bikes i consider trek to have the best of both World's on all cat. Their own suspension design + propriety shock looks very simple but works incredibly phenomenal. The funny thing is my 7 year old trek remedy with full floater + abp + drcv shock still better than some newly released mtb today as tested in real world😄
I have 0 bobs on my Trance E+0 2020 model. I also own 23 year old GT LTS-1000 DS, also 0 bobs. You need to know how to pedal. Suspensions are not idiot proof.
Hello suspension boy ,is a Giant Anthem x3 with rockshox front and rear a good bike? 2012 model 26" wheel
I absolutely adore my Trance E+0 2020 model, brilliant bike!
My Faith 0 2010 with its Rockshox Vivid 5.1, and Marz 888 RC3 Evo Ti is still alive and kicking. Upgraded it to a 650b bike using the long dropout and kitted it to have a head angle of 63.
I have a giant bike the suspension is top-notch
Maestro is great on my 27.5 trance and 26" Glory.
I would be very interested in a mullet Reign with a bit more rear suspension travel.. The Glory is a little big for free-riding sometimes.
we'll be lucky if giant ever makes any interesting bikes. the reign and glory are really all we've got. make the trance x
@@mtvkelby1377 The Faith is also great. By interesting, do you mean all those other bikes that came and went because the suspension was "Interesting" but weren't worth repeating.
(Like my old Foes Banana swingarm Weasel. I use it still, 20 years on, but a bike a 10th of the cost now will run rings around it. )
I've put a 27.5 rear wheel on my 2021 Reign Advance 0, and it's fantastic for steeper and more aggressive laps
Still riding the heck out of my 2012 giant reign 0. My only issue with the bike was the stock fox rp23 shock, it just never worked well so I put on canecreek double barrel after 6 months and it's been amazing ever since.
Been riding a 2015 trance for years. I really enjoy this bike, about to do an ebike kit on it and get out and ride it some more. I'm pumped.
I have a Giant double suspension. It works really good!!!
You know, I didn't even realize until recently that this wasn't a plain old Horst link (or the Giant version of one). I just didn't look closely. It was exceptionally hard to find a trail bike to purchase this year (COVID) and I took what I could get, but, had I known this, I likely would have held out a little longer and tried to find a Trance. It makes sense that this totally different 4-bar setup would have the characteristics being claimed. I especially like that there is no pivot point out at the end of the chain stay. You should play this up more on your website so that newbies (or those of us coming back to the game after a 12-year hiatus) can learn the difference.
Isn't it a single pivot design? I mean it's a virtual one but still...
@@hannes6114 no, it's a 4-bar linkage but both lower pivot points are close to the bottom bracket, instead of one pivot point near the bottom bracket and one at the end of the chain stays (like a Horst). If you look at a picture of the suspension from the non-chain side of the bike, you'll see one pivot point at the bottom of the shock and the other immediately behind the bottom bracket The chain and seat stays just act as a large fixed triangle that translates the motion of the virtual linkage bar between the rear pivot points out to the wheel. That's how they get a more vertical wheel path, whereas the wheel path of a single pivot is always an arc.
This website has a good view of the linkage: www.pinkbike.com/news/Giant-Trance-Advanced-SX-First-Ride-2013.html
One more note: I'm using the term 4-bar linkage in the engineering sense. People often interchange Horst and 4-bar. Both twin link and Horst-link suspensions are 4-bar linkages in that they have 4 pivot points with fixed distances between them. Giant's Maestro is a lot like a twin link but the placement of the upper pivot points on the seat tube and immediately behind, helps it get a better wheel path.
Also, I wound up buying a Trance for my son. It was completely random and not because of this video. New bikes are still scarce here and we had a sudden need to upgrade so we could give his old XC to my niece. A 2020 Trance was the only thing on the local used market that wasn't north of $5k.
@@sonofawil ok - thank you :) So It's kind of a better single pivot but actually a four-bar. Needed that information for the calculation of the right spring for my maybe soon to be bought coil shock since I bought a 2015 Reign and the rear shock isn't all that great - but I haven't really dialed it in yet so it might actually turn out to be working fine in the future.
@@hannes6114 "kind of a better single pivot" ... well that sort of depends what you consider the defining feature of a single pivot. It has a solid rear triangle, i.e., none of the pivot points are inside the stays. That's a feature that all single pivots share but the Santa Cruz two link system also has that feature. Ultimately it pivots around four points instead of just one, so more bushings/bearings and more surfaces rubbing, so it ultimately lacks the ruggedness inherent to a true single pivot. If setting the shock is your goal, I would think that, since shock movement translates into nearly vertical wheel travel, it would feel less progressive than suspensions that introduce a horizontal aspect to wheel motion towards the end of travel. That could conceivably be remedied with a small volume spacer in the shock.
These are two other videos that I watched:
czcams.com/video/R22aYVKaWnk/video.html
czcams.com/video/nQYQNdO6Iaw/video.html
When you look at the wheel path in that first video, it's very similar to the Horst-link suspension on the Specialized. Maestro manages pedal bob better but if your trying to dial it in for better response in your descent then I'd think that would be the one to model your settings on.
Where was this video filmed? Also, I love my Trance X 29-2!
MTB on STEROID's. GIANT TRANCE EMTB / Suspended by front & rear coil Marzocchi shocks. Maestro Works!
My Faith 0 2010 is still going strong though the rear shock wore out and is near impossible to get parts for.. A debonaire was the perfect answer for my mediocre style.
Best suspension ever 👐
Will never go back 👍
This is the best for dual suspension.
nice giant, super fã number 1
20 trance 3 at purchase here I’ve upgraded suspension brakes saddle drivetrain wheels because there isn’t a better climbing bike that descends just as well that I’ve taken on demo. Rides like a goat not the fastest but steadiest for sure. It’s plush rigid at the same time just a pleasure to ride
In what program was made that animations?
It is not right that you take the maestro out of the giant anthem, most of those that we buy giant is because you have the best suspension system. You are going to lose a large audience in xc, me the first, an anthem without a maestro is a carbon stance. Greetings, I will continue to use my anthem and my reign, in which I can still enjoy the maestro.😉
Giant makes some odd moves like that sometimes. Hopefully they listen and bring it back.
Probably to get a lower frame weight, as that's a big selling point for XC. The new Santa Cruz XC bike isn't VPP either.
Same here. Have a 18 160 Reign and 2015 Anthem Advanced SX, 's the perfect 2bikes to have
@@petayV8 I too went that route back in the day. I am still rolling on a 2004 NRS 1 carbon, so sweet to climb, and a 2006 Reign for Moab and local chunkier stuff. Love the Maestro! Now I am looking to move off the 26" and go with one bike. Trance 29 looks pretty sweet to fit my needs!
What's the difference between dw link and maestro?
nothing
Financial resources of a billion dollar global company and a man in New England
I must've drank the Kool-Aid!! 🤔 I've owned three Giant Reigns 😁
Nice marketing speech.
But as much as I loved my Anthem2 I hate it for lack of suspension locking remote. I had to buy new bike with it.
In my opinion every full suspension bike should have as standard as some brand has. Even cheaper models should come with it. It’s nearly 2022 and time to move forward.
For less spin and more substance, we go deeper into all of these concepts in our kinematics video here: czcams.com/video/pNdp96YOYsY/video.html
where can i buy the shoes the bicycle guy is wearing?🤔
But does OVAL CHAINRINGS have negative impact on the anti-squat ? Bought a new Giant Athem here and want to put my old Oval on
Not at all been riding oval for years on a 20 trance The derailure eats up anything I don’t notice the oval until I take it off. The benefits are minimal but noticeable on climbs when I make it with spin out without
What's the last race it won?
It's all about the rider, moron, not the bike.
The first round of EWS this year
If maestro works really good, why the new anthem will not have it?
Maybe be a new version or different bike
@@XXedgsXX All data points to a maestroless and expensive anthem. Do you more data than me?
I also was wondering about this
I have a 2019 stance , full suspension no maestro and it works great
I was expecting a old Taiwanese man wearing a lab coat.
Pretty lame 😂
I love my Trance X 29 ❤
Rear shock on my trance x advanced just blew up on me today 🤦🏽♂️
If you ride alot and ride hard it's normal for that to happen occasionally.
Dwlink
CBF >
Excelente sistema, para mí en la 26 pulgadas, en la 29 o 27,5 no sé ni me interesa estás medidas nuevas no las he ensallado, pues yo hacía mucha trocha, no son las medidas ideales para mí. En 26 si
Show me Anthem 2022, pls.
На Giant Glory можно заехать в достаточно крутую гору. На даунхильном аппарате))) В гору))))
just vpp
Nice looking bike but poor quality control or poor transport.Rear wheel has major issues right out of the box. czcams.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Rear axle is bent! Derailleur is misaligned.Since the rear wheel comes assembled I would have expected better.Assembly instructions poorly written, but that was not unexpected...just annoying.I just had the bike checked at a shop and was told that I should contact the seller about getting a whole rear wheel assembly with cartridge. (The bike shop could not do anything to help me).Not a good experience with this bike, so lesson learned.Added 3 stars for excellent customer serviceUpdate Sept 8 2020Just received a complete replacement wheel for free. Great service and an otherwise fine bike.
Not the most efficient pedalling platform. My reign is bad climbing tech, the front end doesn't stay centred. It's not a super small bump-sensitive ride quality either. My personal take
Does your Reign have a RockShox rear suspension by chance? Fox and RockShox are pretty evenly matched talking about forks, but in my experience, Rockshox rear shocks aren't as supple over small bumps.
@@steven.9263 Fox Dpx2
The reign it’s not to climb! It’s a trail bike! The speciality are the downhill and the irregular roads!
@@XXedgsXX Fair point. But Giant was one of the lasr major brands to offer a 29er enduro rig and I've tested other enduro bikes similair in specs and they outperformed the reign.
@@pedarree5186 I call it "personal preference" czcams.com/video/oNrVbFCjLVE/video.html
Is Just crap
Piece of crap giant reing rear swing arm
f off giant lol .... remember your 27.5 marketing !? I’m not gonna spend any money on your product 😀