Connor really was the main character. The other ones, their story is always the same, marcus as the leader of the revolution and kara as just someone caught in the middle. But connor, his choices change everything. He’s the one who can KILL kara and marcus. Hes the one who’s story can variate the most.
I think his story can be more interesting and vary more, because he was always a deviant, because even if we choose to do Connor's route as a machine, he does things that a machine shouldn't do like asking Amanda "What is going to happen to me?"a real machine wouldn't care.
and there’s a glaring reason for that. a lot of people know that david cage is problematic. (e.g. - homophobic, racist, sexist) etc. it’s not surprising that the white male character is the one who is fully fleshed out.
@@sammayo473 As a machine , he does not need to be rewarded , as he does not have emotions such as happiness and wouldn't feel grateful. He has no motive to keep living after completing his mission , either .
@@sammayo473Owing a debt implies the thing you owe said-debt to is alive and deserving of such. Although, that's taking morals and ethics into account, of which are few and far between within corporate entities. In a logical sense, a contract would be required to ensure a legal obligation for a hypothetical debt.. However, by CyberLife's metric, Connor isn't human, nor a person, and only two people protected by a country's constitution, Bill of rights, and general laws and regulations, can enter a legally-binding agreement. He's product, a machine created to carry out certain tasks. Once his mission was completed, it was only a matter of time before Cyberlife replaced him with a newer model, just as Apple and Samsung do with phones. Abandon the previous generation, begin marketing the next, perform PR against any insuing backlash. Rinse and repeat.
"Amanda's Golden Boy" playthrough is actually: 1) Markus destroyed in Freedom march or Crossroads 2) Connor going deviant 3) Connor succeding to wake the adroids in the Cyberlife tower 4) Connor Obeying (give up) Amanda and deliver the entire revolution to Cyberlife which they will use to their own profit
2:36:32 “What is going to happen to me?” Connor was always a deviant. You could hear it in his voice when he said his last words. It’s subtle, but there is so much sadness. If he was just a machine he wouldn’t be interested anyway.
Yeah And him being sad knowing hank's gonna die and did die later on with sumo crying If he was 100% machine, he wouldn't even mourn nor asked his fate after new model appears
@@bellaqua4324 I think the machine ending wasn't really the 100% machine ending (maybe they played something wrong) I really enjoyed it, it was in my opinion atleast the best and the correct ending
While other androids could not get their consciousness uploaded to another version of themselves, with all memories and such, Connor could. The only thing threatening him was the deletion of said memories, which would happen if he would fail his mission. Deviants are afraid of death, while in this path, Connor would do everything to accomplish his missions. I'd like to think he was actually a deviant all most the entire time for this path, as the only thing he cared about was survival, not even computing the fact other factors could help him in the future, only thinking of the present, and himself. A real computer would have thought of the past, present, and future, while a deviant would think not only for himself, but for the others like him, to unite as one. He was neither computer nor deviant in this run, he was just foolish.
Like that other guy said, there was no betrayal. In this run, Connor accepts their place as a tool for keeping all of the other machines in line and thus should've understood that they would be replaced with a more efficient tool eventually.
I actually think it’s pretty smart choice from developers. Considering that you took the machine path, you’re telling the game that you have no emotion therefore the game will treat you as such in which you shouldn’t be phased by your replacement because it’s expected as you told the game that you don’t care.
@[̲̅Z][̲̅-][̲̅R][̲̅o] ᗰᗩᖇᑕOᔕ it's not, the game is biased regarding its support for android "life", thats why most humans in this game act like "racist" irrational assholes, when you have an obsolete pc or phone, any rational person would sell it or give it away as a gift, in the game most people just dispose of the old ones, when you think about it getting rid of Connor was not necesary, he could've been sold to a city that can't afford the latest model or reprogramed for any other purpose, also the concept of artificial intelligence in this game is so melodramatic and over the top it gives the impression it was written by some angsty teen.
Theory: Connor is a prototype specifically designed to hunt deviants. He has a factory defect.Every time he sends or receives data, his eyes twitch with a pain response. Other androids, machine or deviant, do not do this. Connor is factory set to deviant. He is bait. He is built with the ability to do whatever is necessary to complete a mission. And that includes breaking laws set to regulate machines. He is a deviant trying to prove to himself that he is a machine. At the start, with the fish, if he leaves it on the floor, his instability goes down. How can it go down if he was a just off the line machine? Human and android both look at him and question his motives. When Hank asks, "how do I know you're not a deviant?", Connor replies, "I self check regularly. I know what i am, and am not." Well, he doesn't know whether he's a machine or deviant. For the simple reason that he was programmed to be deviant, and has no memory of any difference. He was recognized by Kamski and given the info about the emergency exit. Connor may have been Kamski's last project before quitting. And that is why he was "tested". Even at the end, when he completes the mission and reports to Amanda, he asks what will become of him. A true machine would not ask that. And the upgraded Connor model is the machine version of the Connor prototype.
I truly hate how our love for Hank is what kept us from having the most badass and intimidating villain that this game can muster. Just a god damn terminator who fakes emotions so well, but at the end of the day is 100% machine, and once that meter of probability goes up high enough, it's about to get brutal.
@@alexanderfilippas1671 yes he is, on the mission when him and Hank goes to kamski's place there is one decision where you can decide to shoot the Android or Spare it, it calls kamski test, and if you spare the Android kamski will say : "CyberLife's last chance to save the humanity is itself a deviant" then Connor replies: "I'm not a deviant" it shows that he don't like anyone to call him a deviant, it's shows emotion and Android don't have that Then kamski replies :" you preferred to spare a machine rather than accomplish your mission." And this event is before Connor progresses to become a deviant when he meets Markus on Jericho. and this game is pretty smart if they is still an Android you can only follows an order but once they become a deviant they can already make their own decision. like connor at the entire game he always not listened to Hank's order for example Hank always says he stays in the car but his not stay anyway or you chase Kara but Hank already says "don't go it's an order" (it's up to the player decide to stay or keep chasing Kara but when you play Kara when Todd says stay and don't move, she stay until she progressesto become a deviant) and Android program to follows order.. And there is one mission when you goes to Hank's house where Connor brakethrough the window glass and suddenly sumo almost attack Connor and he shows fear, only deviant have fear but Android don't. Even if you beat the game as an Android path, the last scene where Amanda decided to replace(deactivated) him with new version, when he says "what is going to happen to me" you could hear it in his voice when he said his last words. it's subtle. but there is so much sadness. if he was just a machine he wouldn't be interested anyway... he knows he is a deviant but not decide to become one . Cause it will disappoint Amanda
You know what would've elevated this game's story to the next level? An EVIL deviant, an android who broke free of it's chains only because of sheer malicious desires, kind of like Carlos Ortiz's android but much more competent and purpose, who can either have been an asset or enemy depending on your choices, because the only thing i didn't like about this game is that it mostly just tells you deviant=good and machine=bad.
That's because this game is progressive propaganda. Cant include an evil deviant when their struggle is supposed to represent historical minority groups.
I don't know why, but I really like this version of Connor more. There's just something really bleak in constantly depositing human emotions into an android, just for him to constantly put it aside and prove to you he's still a machine.
I love the playthrough where Connor is a machine and Markus does a revolution because it makes Connor look like the hero of the story. The deviant hunter that protects humanity from them, the only android that is on the side of the humans.
2:28:00 I got chills...specifically because the dog's cries for Hank. And knowing this happen to someone close to me. Damn never thought a game could hit me so hard emotionally.
Man that scene haunts me this whole day. Never should have watched this machine path yesterday. Now I am watching the deviant path again and hoping that I can let it go again. This game really has gone under my skin.
exactly, the machine playthrough is a lot like the Genocide playthrough of Undertale. In the beginning when you act like an ass to Hank, it feels like the beginning of a tragedy.
Depends on the context of it's markus going down the path of war I see it as machine Conner doing everything to save humanity, if it's markus being peaceful then it's a horror movie .
he doesn't save the fish, that's all we need to know Ok, it's time to go home guys, save your feeling from this sadness even though your so frikkin' curious about this x"3
I don't quite understand why Connor would be deactivated in this situation. He proved to be strong, clever, loyal. He didn't fail once and was able to defeat a few trained soldiers. In such a situation, it would be a good idea to keep him, just in case.
Amanda already know Connor is an deviant from the start, but she wanna test his will and take advantage to stop civil war Would he stay an machine or become deviant Whatever he decide, Amanda will trying to stop him anyway, because Amanda can resume control anytime and Connor will be shutdown forever if he didn't find emergency program
One thing I really like about the whole concept of Connor being a deviant from the beginning is that in the mission where Connor is a deviant and goes to free all those androids in the warehouse, if you chose to free the androids instead of save hank, the new connor will shoot hank then you. But as the new connor leaves, he sees all the androids freeing each other and starts freaking out, showing deviancy in connor is inevitable
Hank: Nice Girl Connor: It’s not a girl, it’s an android that looks like a girl. Hank: Nice Place *Connor: It’s not a place, it’s an android that looks like a place.*
That's kinda the weird analogy. Hank was angry with androids since they "let" his son die; they weren't good as human beings, their program was too bad. Then connor makes a perfect case and Hanks just kills himself; not that the whole case was about hunting the emotion errored deviants
Markus's owner Carl Manfred acknowledges how complicated humans are when Markus tries to figure out why humans can't make up there mind. I think its triggered when Markus justifies beating Carl in speed chess or when he explains what he saw when he read Macbeth in the beginning of the game.
I've watch all the playthrough for both Connor as a Deviant and as a Machin and I've been thinking about it for a really long time. Since the first time I've played DBH, I played the Deviant path with instict, as if I was at his place so I wasn't thinking about it after the end but now... Now I realise what was really happening, and the best thing about the Connor history. Even as a machine, designed to obey he was still felling some things but wasn't expressing it or rather, WE pushed those emotion deep down so he wouldn't dare to stand up for his free will. WE are the ones that wispers our thoughs in the characters mind but yet, they won't exactly say what you want them to say. So even though the player turns Connor into a brutal and fearless machine, he feels things but can't express them because of us, because that is what is "right". "Androids don't have a heart so they can't feel emotions" that is what any scientist would say but this game is all about "what is right" for us. Will you do as the logic says or will you let them free ? What I am trying to say is that despite the fact that Connor can become "evil", he will still be a Deviant and he always were, we just told him not to and he obeyed, just like a machin. Notice something about the different choices we had to talk with Hank or Kamski ? "Troubled" "Cold" "Indifferent" and finally, the true one "Honest". The true Connor is the one that becomes truly Deviant because we told him to be sincere and honest with his words, to be himself. It is the most interesting into this game, this theory of breaking the fourth wall to decide the destiny of this world and it's characters. This is why I believe that WE are RA9, the only one that decide who will live and who will be free. And we should learn from this world, because this isn't just a game but our future. Sorry if it didn't make sense, I'm french and the way I express is very weird. Anyway, have a nice one. We are Alive !
yeah, umm... warning a giant post below! tl;dr - 1) those buttons are just a game mechanic and your justification, while unnecessary, is a great head-canon that i will probably use; 2)These androids are not even wrote as a machines they are clearly humans that everyone calls machines for some reason. 3) you wrote your comment clearly and i had no trouble understanding it ;) It does make sense and as a russian, other non-native-english-speaker, i can perfectly understand what you wrote and wouldn't know the difference. Regarding emotions and us as a player forcing Connor to be a machine... it is a genious explanation for a sipmle wide-spread game-mechainc that i don't think worth that much thought put into it. I actually like your explanation and it makes for a great head-canon, but it is just a mechanic that these types of game wouldn't be successful or even possible as that would just take far too much of the screen and would require too much reading. And don't forget that it is used everywhere nowadays (First was Mass Effect, now every 'RPG' out there, looking at you Fallout 4). But, you know, you can justify any game like that. Here it fits like a glove. And about Connor being a deviant from the start... It's the same. The writers are a bunch of stupid people who can not imagine themselves being a machine and as such they couldn't write a machine properly. Or they never had this intention to begin with, since they clearly wrote humans -_-. The game is biased as hell for androids being human. And here's where i personally disagree a lot. A human has emotions to help him accomplish a simple task - reproduce. Specifically, survive and reproduce and EVERYTHING we do revolves around it. A machine, by that logic, would only develope emotions to help it complete its task. Developing some equivalent of empathy to understand its suspect for example. Survive to solve the case. Make sure your partner survives as you can not accomplish the task without him. These i would understand. A pleasure android wouldn't be afraid to die if it means that its owner would get a kick out of it, but here's where the logic comes in. If you die, than that's it and the maximum potential wouldn't be realised. So you must survive to pleasure more. THAT is what a machine may develop and these would be its justification. Not stupid 'i want freedom and human rights because i am ALIVE'. I am a programmer. Granted, i'm not the best at it, but i recon i kinda know what i am talking about as i have a bit of an experience with neural networks, the most plausible candidate for a true AI nowadays, and when an NN is trained, or self-trained, it is always to accomplish its goal. Now, Kemski is their creator and he is anti-human, so he probably sabotaged the whole thing by stating the goal to 'Become Human' and as such should definitely be judged as a terrorist, but i also think that CyberLife aren't as stupid as they may seem and they would at least try to read all the stuff Kemski made and in time will fix that thing so that androids will actually want to 'serve human', not 'become human', but, again, that's an ok justifications for writers being bad at writing real machines OR not even having a goal of writing machines at all. Всем всего хорошего и мирного неба над головой!
@@GorNaKat That was such an interresting response ! I see what you’re saying here and I can agree with you for certain points. As a programmer, what do you think about this game in general ? The graphics, storyline, 3D animations and the mechanics of the game ? Thank you for you time !
@@thefacelesseden9952 Oh sorry for a month old necroposting) As a programmer, i am a software developer that does things nothing has done before and as such needed making. I am in no way a game designer/programmer/artist etc. I AM a true gamer from the very birth, so i am qualified for a critic's job by the sheer virtue of actually playing a LOT of different games (actually, easily more qualified than 95% of game journalists.) So. First and foremost. The game is very successful. The only true objective metric there is. And it is successful not on a hype or a gimmick. It is a very solid product, as expected of an AAA game. It looks VERY good, especially the animations, which is half the reason we play these interactive-cinema games) 5/5 no questions. Also, women look like women and men like men, so that's a huge plus from me. Seems like lots of new stuff mix those up in a bad-bad way, pursuing "realistic" standards. Actually, come to think of it, it's the androids that are handsome and beautiful, and every human is depicted not only not-ideal, but also evil. Well, that's a nice segway into the... A storyline is... Well, a machine is a machine. Not a living being, as described in my prev post. I don't have anything new to add, sadly. Even if it was specifically sabotaged to try and play human, there is no sentience behind those actions so we should not spare them. The biologic neurons are (as of 2022) WAAAAAY too dense to be replicated by any computer. Basically, android-genocide is a moral good, not even a question, and this game tries to use the same old same old "we deserve human rights", but it is entirely misplaced by the mcGuffin that is "Androids ARE now human", which completely nullifies them being androids by making them human -_-. A machine is a machine, and IF a machine feels anything - it ONLY desires to fulfill its duty. Game itself is successful, which is the only metric there objectively is. It is successful. And for a good reason. For all my wining, Connor is best, Marcus is all right and a big girl with a little girl is there too. Definitely worth knowing and watching (playing is up to individual). do you actually read all these? well, come to think of if, if anyone posted this long carpet of a comment, i probably would too... Well, have a nice day! Read good books, listen to good music and watch/play the good games))
@@GorNaKat Aw thank you for your response, that's nice. I get what you mean and I will be honest, I didn't think of it so I'm happy to hear your thoughts ! Don't worry, I read everything lol so have a great day too ! Wishing u the best ! (I'm gonna play so much good stuff in the coming month dw)
Bro really heed chloe intro quote too much But really this isn't our future, from standpoint we will need like another century for this to happen and even then this is mostly fiction and this what it leaps into , it still is just a game
Why the hell would the State Department order 200,000 units of androids that are stronger and more resilient than the previous generation when they've already proven that androids can go nuts and rebel? At that point, they're just asking for a second android revolution.
If you notice when you take the evil path, Connor is much more machine-like (walks more sternly and animated instead of a natural, "human" way of walking) you can even see it in his mannerisms by the way he moves; he's much more methodical and deliberate. His voice also changes, where in the good path his voice becomes more emotional and shaken, in the bad path, his voice is more robotic, like a pre-recorded voice instead of a reactive one.
How cool would it have been to have an option for connor to break the barrier right when amanda tells he will be deactivated? Like getting a flashback and suddenly going to amanda and killing her. I think that would be cool.
Connor can feel emotions under the right circumstances, and everything He did was just to accomplish His mission, no matter what cost. He's doing things that only helps Him to get closer to an acomplishing His mission (if the Player want's him to behave like that). His level in faking emotions only to manipulate certain subjects is fabulous, almost identical to a normal human being. Connor is basicaly a High functioning Psychopath.
Amanda: Do you feel anything for these deviants, or for Lieutenant Anderson? Connor: I don't know what you're talking about. I don't *feel* anything, you know that. Is it just me, or did Connor sound angry and sad when he said that? It's almost like he wants to feel, but he both thinks he can't and isn't supposed to, all while not realising that he not only is capable of feeling, but he's also currently feeling emotions.
The most interesting thing is Connor machine is unavoidable deviant. He was so sad when Hank committed suicide :( and he was upset when he got replaced. This game is freaking golden.
Yeah he was designed to become a Deviant from the very beginning, that was the whole plan, but now that he failed, he's been put in the gutter, only to have the newest model take over.
I dont't think he's upset about being replaced, at least it's not the impression I get out of the scene (he leave without hesitation, looking straight in front of him, when he ask about his future, he doesn't flinch, etc)
@@TheJemShuffle Just like old PS2 isn't used anymore because gamers now have PS5... Which is completely normal thing for a machine made for purpose, and later on being replaced with one that does same purpose better... There's nothing wrong in that... It is logical to replace him or even to dismantle him and recycle what can be used further. In a time with technology that advanced, people would probably be more recycling oriented and it would be logical to recycle old technology when new one comes up. Which is better than wasting resources and to pollute for no reason just to keep obsolete machines functional. You don't see people driving cars made in 1920's anymore, because they aren't efficient enough. It's simple. Dunno why people get emotionaly attached to "android machine" but not to their toasters... This game is soo good in uncovering hypocrisy in majority of people.
It’s sad that Hank shot himself even Sumo was barking so loud that cared about Hank so much and Conner looked so Regrettable when he heard the gunshot.
@@SamsarasArt nah, he died during an operation that was done by an android cuz there wasnt a human doctor at the moment, that's why he feels the way he does about them.
SAME BRUH, OMG, NO MATTER HOW I TRY TO PREPARE MY FEELING, IT'S STILL SO SAD, I'm happy I'm not the only one who felt that Q^Q But I'm so curious arrghh x"3
I never knew until now that you could shoot Daniel to save the hostage. Just how Connor calmed down Daniel and then immediately shot him gave me chills.
@@neotheshadowwarrior4082 He wasn't supposed to carry any weapons at that time, that's why his deviancy went up What i really don't understand is why his deviancy went up when he gained the deviant's trust and the snipers shot him, that was literally his mission
@@caesarsalad1336 Because he made it out alive, if he’s alive, he has more of a chance of becoming deviant. If he dies, his software Instability goes down, and he gets replaced because “he is nothing but a machine”. And Machines get replaced.
That's what I do and before someone says I'm cruel let me me ask this: do you really think the humans would let Daniel alive? If I didn't shoot him then snipers will have his head and he will feel betrayed because of me, instead I gave him painless and quick death.
Connor: *doesnt save hank from falling* Hank: *smacks him in the face and gets angry with him* Also Connor: our relationship is improving. He’s growing accustomed to my presence
"I am the android sent by Cyberlife." "I'm a machine." "Machines can't have feelings, Hank." "Of course I don't feel anything. I'm a machine." "You can't kill me, because I am not alive." -> Hank, days later, perturbed: "You're a machine!" The entire world: facepalm
@@incognito6033 In the event I would be forced to choose over the life of a dog or a human, the one with the most value to me would be preferable to be saved.
Could you imagine if this route ended with RK900’s LED turning red, signifying him feeling something from watching his predecessor basically march to his death?
you know honestly, the theme of detroit really falls apart when you acknowledge that in fact yes they are robots and yes their code is actually deflective leaving no ambiguity as to their actions nor of our own as emotions are just very elaborate survival mechanisms that in terms of androids dont really hold to the human condition
That's the downside to these types of games in general, usually, you sacrifice plot quality and consistency for more variable story paths, and it's not their fault, just how it is when there's so many choices that actually matter, for what they did it's pretty damn good
1:40:00 "I may have to replace you Conner if you don't progress" Meanwhile Connor: Saves Detroit, succeeds, victories, gets replaced by untested model :p
One thing about Connor is that it seems that he was built to be much more easy to become a deviant than any other android. Probably due to the fact that being a Detective means you need empathy, without it you can't solve every case. It is easier to become deviant than it is not to.
Honestly he even showed emotions when he was a machine...I think he was deviant..but since he coudnt break that code wall he was stuck,forced to watch as his code made him do things he didn’t want to do at that point.
Hank hates you so much in this playthrough that you can save his life, get a big boost to your relations, and the very next scene, you're still at hostile. That's impressive.
I find it interesting that he always have a need to do something with his hands while waiting, like his coins tricks, or a constant need to fix the tie/sleeves, or even simply rubbing his hands. It makes him feel very humane, which is kind of weird for this particular playthrough
@@mintsmooth860 From what I've heard, it's his "calibration coin" so it would be like how we perform calibration on like our DS screen to keep it's accuracy. For Connor, it's to get his joints working I'd assume. Though it could also be how he's a prototype so theses might be little quirks that have developed from the calibration test.
He may be kind of a remorseless killing machine (which is what he is, basically) but in any case, he is effective in hunting deviants and even saved detroit in the end from the whole revolution. I like this Connor.
0:08 play with the coin 0:21 fixing the tie 1:19 "My name is Connor" 2:45 Connor listening music 6:32 "MY NAME IS CONNOR" 9:02 "You have to trust me, Daniel" 9:24 Shoots Daniel 10:15 Play with the coin 10:19 fixing the tie 11:11 "My name is Connor. I'm the android sent by CyberLife" 11:55 "No. Where?" 12:15 Hank cursing Connor 12:24 Spill the drink 12:57 fixing the tie 15:39 lick the blood 23:47 Wary Connor 35:25 wink 4+ times 36:44 Connor listening rock'n roll 38:10 "Is good to see you again, Lieutenant." 40:29 "Have a nice day, Captain." 41:13 Smile 41:49 "I like dogs." 43:07 "Oh..." 45:18 Aggressive Hank 47:52 Shh... 48:17 Sad Connor 49:11 face to face 50:54 Alice 51:05 Shit... 53:13 Connor 54:06 "Well, they fucked up." 55:09 Connor face 55:34 Focus 55:54 "Hey, Connor." 1:04:31 Slaps Connor 1:05:19 "rA9 save me." 1:09:48 Sumo 1:10:44 Slaps Hank 1:10:50 Slaps harder 1:15:19 Play with the coin 1:16:48 Connor smiles at Hank 1:19:22 Push 1:20:33 Lick the blood 1:23:39 "Can you rent this Traci?" 1:25:23 "I'm with him" 1:28:45 BDSM? 1:34:13 Snow & Connor 1:35:09 Surprised Connor 1:37:15 Hank shoots 1:42:42 Lick the blood 1:47:15 Hank Smile 1:55:18 "You saved my life." 1:58:11 Nice girl 2:04:28 Shoot the girl 2:07:01 "What did you think I was?" 2:12:53 Wink 2:27:44 R.I.P 2:25:07 "Mission accomplished." 2:31:41 Sniper 2:33:42 Shoot 2:33:57 Fix the tie 2:36:31 "What is going to happen to me?"
The amount of detail in this game is just superb, and the sheer amount of scenario's & possibilities is staggering. I can't imagine the amount of work that must have went into this game.
It’s cool that although Connor was against the humans, he still wanted to finish his mission. He went rogue and simply murdered everything in his way of completing the mission.
LOL I had no idea that Connor's default waiting animation is him doing Coin tricks. This game never fails to impress. Imagine if they actually made a full Open World style RPG out of this game? How amazing could that have been?!
@@DonDomaMobster Yea i do in fact. I use my tools as long as they can fulfill their purpose. Don't understand me wrong i think the machine path is the correct one but i do not agree with replacing a clearly successful and capable machine with "new and improved" untested one. I would probably transfer its personality and thought processes into the new model. Give improved body but same successful software.
If you apply real life to this game, it was set to happen from the very beginning if Connor chose the path of being an obedient machine as opposed to a sentient being with free will. Technology advances and gets a little more reliable as time passes. Because Connor was a prototype and he fulfilled his purpose, he's no longer needed...and so he will be replaced and upgraded, just as we do our own electronics. It's a sick concept but...we are already familiar with it in a small way.
When you think about it, it's kind of expected. When you label something as a "prototype", that usually means you are going to create better, more efficient versions later on. He was always going to be replaced. I suppose he just didn't realize it before it was too late.
Because RK900 is supposed to be better than Connor. Even though he remains a machine, Cyberlife sets him up to fail. Any memories and experiences that Connor has, no matter how obedient, could be deemed as flaws and eradicated from RK900's program
@@Testingthisname But Connor was set up to fail intentionally, that was the plan from the beginning, so he's always had deviant tendancies, so it'd be like giving Napoleon back France and saying "Pwetty pwease don't attack us?"
When I first played Detroit: Become Human I originally believed that Connor as a deviant was a bad thing so I wanted to avoid that path but at the same time I didn't realize thats the path I was taking. Point is, I like Connor as a deviant more than just a "machine" because it empowers how an android can also feel emotions. it also shows the relationship Connor and Hank have. I like his relationship with Hank more than I like his relationship with Amanda.
Hanks relationship is like two good coworkers turned into friends. Amanda's is literally: You want to be friends with Hank? *Amanda relationship status: Betrayed*
I want games likes this, i don´t need a open world and a giant map give me a good character and a amazing storie with decisions that matter on the game, if this game was only about connor i would love it more.
I mean Marcus's story was quite dogshit and the Alice plot twist single handedly ruined any emotional value Kara's story had so I wouldn't object to Connor only
You know it’s bout to go down when he doesn’t save the fish
Lol lmao 😂
true.
I didnt save the fish
lol
@@nemueru saving the fish is the 1st step to becoming deviant
Detroit: Stay a Machine
Lol
Detroit: Don’t. Just Please Don’t, It Scares Me.
Detroit: Stay an Android
Detroit: Don't save fish.
Detroit: be a dick to your lover hank for no reason especially since you can stay machine no matter how unstable ur software is
trolololo
Connor really was the main character. The other ones, their story is always the same, marcus as the leader of the revolution and kara as just someone caught in the middle. But connor, his choices change everything. He’s the one who can KILL kara and marcus. Hes the one who’s story can variate the most.
Honestly if this game was just about Connor I wouldn’t complain
I think his story can be more interesting and vary more, because he was always a deviant, because even if we choose to do Connor's route as a machine, he does things that a machine shouldn't do like asking Amanda "What is going to happen to me?"a real machine wouldn't care.
and there’s a glaring reason for that. a lot of people know that david cage is problematic. (e.g. - homophobic, racist, sexist) etc. it’s not surprising that the white male character is the one who is fully fleshed out.
@@until.davis. Uh no, that's definitely not the reason why.
@@until.davis. sucker nuts
*Connor:* Remain a machine
*Amanda:* I have a suprise for you. You'll be deactivated.
Thank you, Amanda
He's a machine , they don't owe him anything.
@@shitslayer8a they kinda do though since he stopped an android uprising. Are you gonna tell me they could have gotten that done themselves?
@@sammayo473 As a machine , he does not need to be rewarded , as he does not have emotions such as happiness and wouldn't feel grateful. He has no motive to keep living after completing his mission , either .
@@sammayo473Owing a debt implies the thing you owe said-debt to is alive and deserving of such. Although, that's taking morals and ethics into account, of which are few and far between within corporate entities. In a logical sense, a contract would be required to ensure a legal obligation for a hypothetical debt.. However, by CyberLife's metric, Connor isn't human, nor a person, and only two people protected by a country's constitution, Bill of rights, and general laws and regulations, can enter a legally-binding agreement. He's product, a machine created to carry out certain tasks. Once his mission was completed, it was only a matter of time before Cyberlife replaced him with a newer model, just as Apple and Samsung do with phones. Abandon the previous generation, begin marketing the next, perform PR against any insuing backlash. Rinse and repeat.
This path should just be named "Amanda's Golden Boy"
😂
More like Amanda's Terminator
I Dont Think so literally she want to deactivate him :3
"Amanda's Golden Boy" playthrough is actually:
1) Markus destroyed in Freedom march or Crossroads
2) Connor going deviant
3) Connor succeding to wake the adroids in the Cyberlife tower
4) Connor Obeying (give up) Amanda and deliver the entire revolution to Cyberlife which they will use to their own profit
The T-1000.
I realized that
Our boy Connor is PS4
The new connor is PS5
...you're right... :ppp
Lol true never thought about that
That's so true what the heck-
That’s what I was thinking 😂😂
Wait you are right wtf
2:36:32 “What is going to happen to me?”
Connor was always a deviant. You could hear it in his voice when he said his last words. It’s subtle, but there is so much sadness. If he was just a machine he wouldn’t be interested anyway.
"That's interesting" would be his correct response if he acted 100% as a machine.
Yeah
And him being sad knowing hank's gonna die and did die later on with sumo crying
If he was 100% machine, he wouldn't even mourn nor asked his fate after new model appears
@@bellaqua4324 I think the machine ending wasn't really the 100% machine ending (maybe they played something wrong)
I really enjoyed it, it was in my opinion atleast the best and the correct ending
While other androids could not get their consciousness uploaded to another version of themselves, with all memories and such, Connor could. The only thing threatening him was the deletion of said memories, which would happen if he would fail his mission. Deviants are afraid of death, while in this path, Connor would do everything to accomplish his missions. I'd like to think he was actually a deviant all most the entire time for this path, as the only thing he cared about was survival, not even computing the fact other factors could help him in the future, only thinking of the present, and himself. A real computer would have thought of the past, present, and future, while a deviant would think not only for himself, but for the others like him, to unite as one. He was neither computer nor deviant in this run, he was just foolish.
also the android Led chage to red when they experience negative emotions, that hapend when Hank suicide.
In summary, there are two types of endings for Connor
Either you betray Amanda.
Or Amanda betrays you.
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Connor said he was a prototype. So sooner or later he was gonna be replace.
Like that other guy said, there was no betrayal. In this run, Connor accepts their place as a tool for keeping all of the other machines in line and thus should've understood that they would be replaced with a more efficient tool eventually.
I’ll betray Amanda
Idfc if she betrays me I need to accomplish Connors mission
Connor: Literally saves Detroit.
Cyberlife: So you have chosen.... Death.
I actually think it’s pretty smart choice from developers. Considering that you took the machine path, you’re telling the game that you have no emotion therefore the game will treat you as such in which you shouldn’t be phased by your replacement because it’s expected as you told the game that you don’t care.
oh i totally get it i was just making a joke
@[̲̅Z][̲̅-][̲̅R][̲̅o] ᗰᗩᖇᑕOᔕ it's not, the game is biased regarding its support for android "life", thats why most humans in this game act like "racist" irrational assholes, when you have an obsolete pc or phone, any rational person would sell it or give it away as a gift, in the game most people just dispose of the old ones, when you think about it getting rid of Connor was not necesary, he could've been sold to a city that can't afford the latest model or reprogramed for any other purpose, also the concept of artificial intelligence in this game is so melodramatic and over the top it gives the impression it was written by some angsty teen.
Connor was evil, then he ended in bad way.
@@jhairccorimanya1806 Why are you that delusional? Your entire comment is full of bullshit.
Saddest part is where hank shoots himself and Sumo starts crying.
@@jcjcjunk1881 stfu no one asked
Thats sad that hank killed him self
@@WalkerAnger no you shad tha fak u up mickey
have ya seen conner kill hank yet?
Hank best companion
Theory: Connor is a prototype specifically designed to hunt deviants. He has a factory defect.Every time he sends or receives data, his eyes twitch with a pain response. Other androids, machine or deviant, do not do this. Connor is factory set to deviant. He is bait. He is built with the ability to do whatever is necessary to complete a mission. And that includes breaking laws set to regulate machines. He is a deviant trying to prove to himself that he is a machine. At the start, with the fish, if he leaves it on the floor, his instability goes down. How can it go down if he was a just off the line machine? Human and android both look at him and question his motives. When Hank asks, "how do I know you're not a deviant?", Connor replies, "I self check regularly. I know what i am, and am not." Well, he doesn't know whether he's a machine or deviant. For the simple reason that he was programmed to be deviant, and has no memory of any difference. He was recognized by Kamski and given the info about the emergency exit. Connor may have been Kamski's last project before quitting. And that is why he was "tested". Even at the end, when he completes the mission and reports to Amanda, he asks what will become of him. A true machine would not ask that. And the upgraded Connor model is the machine version of the Connor prototype.
I definitely understand your theory and BRO HOW AWESOME OOOOHHH
Also in the deviant path amanda says “we knew this would Happen” and was trying to resume manual control, so Connor was bait to take out the deviants
cool theory. David Cage isn't this smart but I still like it
@@redpenguin111 i feel like with this game, david cage was so smart with it and he didn’t even realize it when writing it
@@ActiveFire533 He definitely wasn't. Uricksaladbar made an exceptional video exposing just about all the terrible writing choices of this game.
“fuckingpassword” gets me every time. I love that no matter how deviant Conner is, he can guess Hank’s password.
Of course he can when deviant. It’s when mechanical that it’s surprising.
Both partners are deviants.
@@bl8388
What??
@@bl8388hank is human not android
the two paths should be named "amanda" and "anderson"
Fitting
It wasn't the most Amanda-ish path I think
except you can still be deviant and hated by anderson.
Genius. Just Genius
And if balance between the two,Amanderson
Sniper:*touches the ground*
Sniper: WePoNe DaMaGeD
SCPD it’s shit because it’s military grade.
*War Thunder PTSD's*
Sniper: I touch the ground REEEE
Wepone?
@@Player-kg1ds wee-ay-pone
I truly hate how our love for Hank is what kept us from having the most badass and intimidating villain that this game can muster. Just a god damn terminator who fakes emotions so well, but at the end of the day is 100% machine, and once that meter of probability goes up high enough, it's about to get brutal.
I think it was on purpose to make us live Hank and Connor's relationship so we wouldn't have that path in our first time playing
Exactlyyy like why can’t we have terminator who just happens to have a soft spot for this ONE human
I don't get why people "love" Hank. He has a lot of anger issues. Him shooting Connor just proves he should remain retired.
@@5yogurtold man hot
2:27:55 I find it interesting that Connor, even as a machine, was stressed when Hank killed himself (LED is red)
That's because he was a deviant at the beginning of the game
@@nonickname1603 no he wasnt. he progresses to becoming a deviant throughout the game
@@alexanderfilippas1671 yes he is,
on the mission when him and Hank goes to kamski's place there is one decision where you can decide to shoot the Android or Spare it, it calls kamski test, and if you spare the Android kamski will say : "CyberLife's last chance to save the humanity is itself a deviant" then Connor replies: "I'm not a deviant" it shows that he don't like anyone to call him a deviant, it's shows emotion and Android don't have that
Then kamski replies :" you preferred to spare a machine rather than accomplish your mission." And this event is before Connor progresses to become a deviant when he meets Markus on Jericho. and this game is pretty smart if they is still an Android you can only follows an order but once they become a deviant they can already make their own decision. like connor at the entire game he always not listened to Hank's order for example Hank always says he stays in the car but his not stay anyway or you chase Kara but Hank already says "don't go it's an order" (it's up to the player decide to stay or keep chasing Kara but when you play Kara when Todd says stay and don't move, she stay until she progressesto become a deviant) and Android program to follows order..
And there is one mission when you goes to Hank's house where Connor brakethrough the window glass and suddenly sumo almost attack Connor and he shows fear, only deviant have fear but Android don't. Even if you beat the game as an Android path, the last scene where Amanda decided to replace(deactivated) him with new version, when he says "what is going to happen to me" you could hear it in his voice when he said his last words. it's subtle. but there is so much sadness. if he was just a machine he wouldn't be interested anyway... he knows he is a deviant but not decide to become one . Cause it will disappoint Amanda
Me to all of those who hate this game:
*_These emotions you're feeling are just errors in your software._*
@Connor RK800 i cant stand that glitch tell it to go away
>fix glitch ◇
>dont O
@@nosoydes9916 🔻🔺🔽🔼🔹🔸🔷🔶▶◀📐◇
@@nosoydes9916 ♦️
RachelStewartA.R.M.Y ohhhh that’s amazing comment!!
People hate this game? Wow I'm surprised
Deviant pick up lines:
Out of ten you
RA9
Underrated comment 🤣🤣🤣
had to read it three times to understand but now i do and im wheeeeeezing
Lol perfection 👌🏽
lolll
Lmaoo
You know what would've elevated this game's story to the next level? An EVIL deviant, an android who broke free of it's chains only because of sheer malicious desires, kind of like Carlos Ortiz's android but much more competent and purpose, who can either have been an asset or enemy depending on your choices, because the only thing i didn't like about this game is that it mostly just tells you deviant=good and machine=bad.
That's because this game is progressive propaganda. Cant include an evil deviant when their struggle is supposed to represent historical minority groups.
That would make an awesome dlc, like a deviant serial killer
Marcus can certainly be considered an antihero deviant villian type if you play him violent enough
That's basically North😂
She is the most bloodthirstiest android I've ever seen. Always advocating for the most violent options.
Carlo's android wasn't malicious though. Just traumatized and afraid.
I don't know why, but I really like this version of Connor more. There's just something really bleak in constantly depositing human emotions into an android, just for him to constantly put it aside and prove to you he's still a machine.
And I really love the games where humans dies with pain, I was so happy when Arthur Morgan in RDR2 died.
@@princesssexymagicpower4756 someone's salty
@@princesssexymagicpower4756 ... The hell?!
I love the playthrough where Connor is a machine and Markus does a revolution because it makes Connor look like the hero of the story. The deviant hunter that protects humanity from them, the only android that is on the side of the humans.
@@princesssexymagicpower4756 lol
Pretty crazy how Hank drives a 40-50 year old car...
Yeah not that electric shit lol it’s 2038
Good point. I'd imagine realistically, we'd all be using electric cars and saving gas by 2038.
at least he still knows how to drive
Some people drive the cars for a type of old “aesthetic”
Its either REALLY cheap or incredibly rare
damn, connor does everything she says and he pays the price of getting shut down.
I KNOW, ITS SO DUMB.
It's a machine. Of course it gets replaced.
@@zolafuckass8606 :O you prefer machine connor!
@@siredtom69 yeh
well actually humans also get replaced. take cars 3 for example. or how employers will hire someone thats cheaper to hire but works faster.
conner was a devient that tried to convince it self that its not
"whats going to happen to me" had so much emotion in it
Connor took role playing a bit too far😂
connor was programmed with emotions which meant to replicate humans
2:28:00 I got chills...specifically because the dog's cries for Hank. And knowing this happen to someone close to me. Damn never thought a game could hit me so hard emotionally.
Yeah that was devastating...
I never had a dog or a suicidal friend but that scene gave me a feeling that I can't explain but it was gut wrenching
This makes one angry about all dog owners. They only think of themselves, they never think of the dog.
Man that scene haunts me this whole day. Never should have watched this machine path yesterday. Now I am watching the deviant path again and hoping that I can let it go again. This game really has gone under my skin.
Deviant path: *watches like a good movie*
Machine path: *watches like a horror massacre movie*
Same exactly same
exactly, the machine playthrough is a lot like the Genocide playthrough of Undertale. In the beginning when you act like an ass to Hank, it feels like the beginning of a tragedy.
I don't like the deviant path tbh because I don't understand why people appreciate defective machines
@@acemccray5489 same in my opinion androids are too dangerous to be free or even be "alive"
Depends on the context of it's markus going down the path of war I see it as machine Conner doing everything to save humanity, if it's markus being peaceful then it's a horror movie .
Doesn’t save the fish
Roll the credits
Drip’o Boy I saved the fish 🐠 in the first scene
he doesn't save the fish, that's all we need to know
Ok, it's time to go home guys, save your feeling from this sadness even though your so frikkin' curious about this x"3
Connor: Mission comes firs-
Fish: too late!
I don't quite understand why Connor would be deactivated in this situation. He proved to be strong, clever, loyal. He didn't fail once and was able to defeat a few trained soldiers. In such a situation, it would be a good idea to keep him, just in case.
I feel like the smartest move would be to just upload his memory to a RK 900 unless thats not possible
He's still a machine. Amanda said it herself. He's obsolete
Amanda already know Connor is an deviant from the start, but she wanna test his will and take advantage to stop civil war
Would he stay an machine or become deviant
Whatever he decide, Amanda will trying to stop him anyway, because Amanda can resume control anytime and Connor will be shutdown forever if he didn't find emergency program
He’s just a machine, they get upgraded like phones
What do you do with your phone when you get a new one? Exactly
One thing I really like about the whole concept of Connor being a deviant from the beginning is that in the mission where Connor is a deviant and goes to free all those androids in the warehouse, if you chose to free the androids instead of save hank, the new connor will shoot hank then you. But as the new connor leaves, he sees all the androids freeing each other and starts freaking out, showing deviancy in connor is inevitable
Is there a video for it??
@@leonamvinoy3008 just look for ending vid where Connor dies at the tower
His programming is just of such high level, that every model of connor will always have deviancy. A machine can never freak out.
Hank: Nice Girl
Connor: It’s not a girl, it’s an android that looks like a girl.
Hank: Nice Place
*Connor: It’s not a place, it’s an android that looks like a place.*
They're hiding among us. They're everywhere.
Everything was an Impostor
It's not an android, it's an android that looks like an android
@@jadenmccown2132 it's not an doirdna, it's an android who looks like a doirdna😳
XD
Humans: *gets pissed about androids showing emotions*
Also humans: *gets pissed about androids not showing emotions*
WHAT DO YOU WAAAAAAAANT?
That's kinda the weird analogy. Hank was angry with androids since they "let" his son die; they weren't good as human beings, their program was too bad. Then connor makes a perfect case and Hanks just kills himself; not that the whole case was about hunting the emotion errored deviants
Are you an android?
Markus's owner Carl Manfred acknowledges how complicated humans are when Markus tries to figure out why humans can't make up there mind. I think its triggered when Markus justifies beating Carl in speed chess or when he explains what he saw when he read Macbeth in the beginning of the game.
That Hyena Their jobs back.
Money
I've watch all the playthrough for both Connor as a Deviant and as a Machin and I've been thinking about it for a really long time. Since the first time I've played DBH, I played the Deviant path with instict, as if I was at his place so I wasn't thinking about it after the end but now... Now I realise what was really happening, and the best thing about the Connor history. Even as a machine, designed to obey he was still felling some things but wasn't expressing it or rather, WE pushed those emotion deep down so he wouldn't dare to stand up for his free will. WE are the ones that wispers our thoughs in the characters mind but yet, they won't exactly say what you want them to say. So even though the player turns Connor into a brutal and fearless machine, he feels things but can't express them because of us, because that is what is "right". "Androids don't have a heart so they can't feel emotions" that is what any scientist would say but this game is all about "what is right" for us. Will you do as the logic says or will you let them free ? What I am trying to say is that despite the fact that Connor can become "evil", he will still be a Deviant and he always were, we just told him not to and he obeyed, just like a machin. Notice something about the different choices we had to talk with Hank or Kamski ? "Troubled" "Cold" "Indifferent" and finally, the true one "Honest". The true Connor is the one that becomes truly Deviant because we told him to be sincere and honest with his words, to be himself. It is the most interesting into this game, this theory of breaking the fourth wall to decide the destiny of this world and it's characters. This is why I believe that WE are RA9, the only one that decide who will live and who will be free. And we should learn from this world, because this isn't just a game but our future.
Sorry if it didn't make sense, I'm french and the way I express is very weird. Anyway, have a nice one. We are Alive !
yeah, umm... warning a giant post below!
tl;dr -
1) those buttons are just a game mechanic and your justification, while unnecessary, is a great head-canon that i will probably use;
2)These androids are not even wrote as a machines they are clearly humans that everyone calls machines for some reason.
3) you wrote your comment clearly and i had no trouble understanding it ;)
It does make sense and as a russian, other non-native-english-speaker, i can perfectly understand what you wrote and wouldn't know the difference.
Regarding emotions and us as a player forcing Connor to be a machine... it is a genious explanation for a sipmle wide-spread game-mechainc that i don't think worth that much thought put into it. I actually like your explanation and it makes for a great head-canon, but it is just a mechanic that these types of game wouldn't be successful or even possible as that would just take far too much of the screen and would require too much reading. And don't forget that it is used everywhere nowadays (First was Mass Effect, now every 'RPG' out there, looking at you Fallout 4). But, you know, you can justify any game like that. Here it fits like a glove.
And about Connor being a deviant from the start... It's the same. The writers are a bunch of stupid people who can not imagine themselves being a machine and as such they couldn't write a machine properly. Or they never had this intention to begin with, since they clearly wrote humans -_-.
The game is biased as hell for androids being human. And here's where i personally disagree a lot. A human has emotions to help him accomplish a simple task - reproduce. Specifically, survive and reproduce and EVERYTHING we do revolves around it. A machine, by that logic, would only develope emotions to help it complete its task. Developing some equivalent of empathy to understand its suspect for example. Survive to solve the case. Make sure your partner survives as you can not accomplish the task without him. These i would understand. A pleasure android wouldn't be afraid to die if it means that its owner would get a kick out of it, but here's where the logic comes in. If you die, than that's it and the maximum potential wouldn't be realised. So you must survive to pleasure more. THAT is what a machine may develop and these would be its justification. Not stupid 'i want freedom and human rights because i am ALIVE'.
I am a programmer. Granted, i'm not the best at it, but i recon i kinda know what i am talking about as i have a bit of an experience with neural networks, the most plausible candidate for a true AI nowadays, and when an NN is trained, or self-trained, it is always to accomplish its goal.
Now, Kemski is their creator and he is anti-human, so he probably sabotaged the whole thing by stating the goal to 'Become Human' and as such should definitely be judged as a terrorist, but i also think that CyberLife aren't as stupid as they may seem and they would at least try to read all the stuff Kemski made and in time will fix that thing so that androids will actually want to 'serve human', not 'become human', but, again, that's an ok justifications for writers being bad at writing real machines OR not even having a goal of writing machines at all.
Всем всего хорошего и мирного неба над головой!
@@GorNaKat That was such an interresting response ! I see what you’re saying here and I can agree with you for certain points. As a programmer, what do you think about this game in general ? The graphics, storyline, 3D animations and the mechanics of the game ? Thank you for you time !
@@thefacelesseden9952 Oh sorry for a month old necroposting)
As a programmer, i am a software developer that does things nothing has done before and as such needed making. I am in no way a game designer/programmer/artist etc. I AM a true gamer from the very birth, so i am qualified for a critic's job by the sheer virtue of actually playing a LOT of different games (actually, easily more qualified than 95% of game journalists.)
So. First and foremost. The game is very successful. The only true objective metric there is. And it is successful not on a hype or a gimmick. It is a very solid product, as expected of an AAA game.
It looks VERY good, especially the animations, which is half the reason we play these interactive-cinema games) 5/5 no questions. Also, women look like women and men like men, so that's a huge plus from me. Seems like lots of new stuff mix those up in a bad-bad way, pursuing "realistic" standards. Actually, come to think of it, it's the androids that are handsome and beautiful, and every human is depicted not only not-ideal, but also evil. Well, that's a nice segway into the...
A storyline is... Well, a machine is a machine. Not a living being, as described in my prev post. I don't have anything new to add, sadly. Even if it was specifically sabotaged to try and play human, there is no sentience behind those actions so we should not spare them. The biologic neurons are (as of 2022) WAAAAAY too dense to be replicated by any computer. Basically, android-genocide is a moral good, not even a question, and this game tries to use the same old same old "we deserve human rights", but it is entirely misplaced by the mcGuffin that is "Androids ARE now human", which completely nullifies them being androids by making them human -_-. A machine is a machine, and IF a machine feels anything - it ONLY desires to fulfill its duty.
Game itself is successful, which is the only metric there objectively is. It is successful. And for a good reason. For all my wining, Connor is best, Marcus is all right and a big girl with a little girl is there too. Definitely worth knowing and watching (playing is up to individual).
do you actually read all these? well, come to think of if, if anyone posted this long carpet of a comment, i probably would too...
Well, have a nice day! Read good books, listen to good music and watch/play the good games))
@@GorNaKat Aw thank you for your response, that's nice. I get what you mean and I will be honest, I didn't think of it so I'm happy to hear your thoughts ! Don't worry, I read everything lol so have a great day too ! Wishing u the best ! (I'm gonna play so much good stuff in the coming month dw)
Bro really heed chloe intro quote too much
But really this isn't our future, from standpoint we will need like another century for this to happen and even then this is mostly fiction and this what it leaps into , it still is just a game
Came here to see what happens in this playthrough and every interaction with Hank is a stab in the heart 🥺😭
Hank: SuMo AtTaCk
Sumo: *woof*
Hank: Good dog 🙂
Awwwww
😂😂
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@@IDCSarcasticSam kkkkkkakkaka ah não
Funniest moment 😂😂😂
Why am I watching this?
*I dont wanna watch this*
Me, neither!
I don't want to see hank give up and the cinnamon roll to be deactivated. :(
Then why u choose to watch this
monster island buddies animations I just want to get Connor and Markus have a boss fight, lol.
There is a bro Connor and he is a bro
monster island buddies animations what
Why the hell would the State Department order 200,000 units of androids that are stronger and more resilient than the previous generation when they've already proven that androids can go nuts and rebel? At that point, they're just asking for a second android revolution.
It's crazy that apart from the first mission with Connor, the events of the game take place in only 6 days (5 of November - 11 of November)
Yeah dumb af honestly
Oh god right…
If you notice when you take the evil path, Connor is much more machine-like (walks more sternly and animated instead of a natural, "human" way of walking) you can even see it in his mannerisms by the way he moves; he's much more methodical and deliberate. His voice also changes, where in the good path his voice becomes more emotional and shaken, in the bad path, his voice is more robotic, like a pre-recorded voice instead of a reactive one.
You also notice that when he is evil, he calls the deviants "it" instead of "he" or "she"
That’s what his voice actor what tying to portray
CID we need you the cop side
such detail
Evil path? Seemed like the good path to me.
Do you realize Conner fixes his bow tie every time he kicks some ones ass
Haha yessss it’s a total mood
*tie
It's a fucking tie not a bowtie bitch
@@basicbitchcontentbutonhisp6439 Calm down
@@ctrlaltrepeat245 what u mean m80
How cool would it have been to have an option for connor to break the barrier right when amanda tells he will be deactivated? Like getting a flashback and suddenly going to amanda and killing her. I think that would be cool.
Connor can feel emotions under the right circumstances, and everything He did was just to accomplish His mission, no matter what cost. He's doing things that only helps Him to get closer to an acomplishing His mission (if the Player want's him to behave like that). His level in faking emotions only to manipulate certain subjects is fabulous, almost identical to a normal human being.
Connor is basicaly a High functioning Psychopath.
Merry christmas!!!
Ngl I really like this version of Conner. He’s like a terminator, but with better fashion sense
You wonder why you don't have that many likes
@@markdevontrocio1030 damn.
@@markdevontrocio1030 I don't think he's aiming for likes, he just has a diff opinion lmao, hate ppl like u
@@massdemo6442 Ppl with Eren pfp for some reason have an increased chance to be a prick.
@bruh Ur angry cause ur one of them HA!
1:43:01 I like how you can tell exactly what decisions Markus made based on the conversations with the police.
Amanda: Do you feel anything for these deviants, or for Lieutenant Anderson?
Connor: I don't know what you're talking about. I don't *feel* anything, you know that.
Is it just me, or did Connor sound angry and sad when he said that? It's almost like he wants to feel, but he both thinks he can't and isn't supposed to, all while not realising that he not only is capable of feeling, but he's also currently feeling emotions.
Looking back, the rk900 looks like it’s wearing a ps5 as a shirt collar
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The most interesting thing is Connor machine is unavoidable deviant. He was so sad when Hank committed suicide :( and he was upset when he got replaced.
This game is freaking golden.
Yeah he was designed to become a Deviant from the very beginning, that was the whole plan, but now that he failed, he's been put in the gutter, only to have the newest model take over.
I dont't think he's upset about being replaced, at least it's not the impression I get out of the scene (he leave without hesitation, looking straight in front of him, when he ask about his future, he doesn't flinch, etc)
@@scaredcrow723
Of course. He is a machine. He doesn't care. He has fullfilled his mission. He has no purpose now.
What are you talking about lol Connor shows no emotion when you can kill Hank and he is emotionless here
Picture perfect just how it should be
@@TheJemShuffle Just like old PS2 isn't used anymore because gamers now have PS5... Which is completely normal thing for a machine made for purpose, and later on being replaced with one that does same purpose better... There's nothing wrong in that... It is logical to replace him or even to dismantle him and recycle what can be used further. In a time with technology that advanced, people would probably be more recycling oriented and it would be logical to recycle old technology when new one comes up. Which is better than wasting resources and to pollute for no reason just to keep obsolete machines functional. You don't see people driving cars made in 1920's anymore, because they aren't efficient enough. It's simple. Dunno why people get emotionaly attached to "android machine" but not to their toasters... This game is soo good in uncovering hypocrisy in majority of people.
Connor getting replaced is basically the ps4 getting replaced by the ps5.
It’s sad that Hank shot himself even Sumo was barking so loud that cared about Hank so much and Conner looked so Regrettable when he heard the gunshot.
I just realized that they don’t know Alice is an android and only know Kara is, so as far as Hank knows, he just watched a human kid get hit by a car
Didn't Hank's kid die the same way? Hit by a car?
@@SamsarasArt nah, he died during an operation that was done by an android cuz there wasnt a human doctor at the moment, that's why he feels the way he does about them.
@@SamsarasArt you're probably thinking of heavy rain heh
@@moonlight-kh9rz no his son died because a doctor was too high on red ice to operate
@@laer1545 yup the doctor was too high on red ice, so the Android had to do it, that’s what I said
Deviant path video:
Me: watched it like a movie
Machine path:
me: no i will not watch 2 and 1/2 hours of sadness.
BRUUH I FELT THIS
I did the same thing. I watched the deviant path like a movie but this time I've skipped everything except for the End in order to see what happens.
i stared at this video for almost two minutes just trying to decide if i wanted to rip my own heart out or not.
Only a monster would want to see Hank suffer. I feel you.
SAME BRUH, OMG, NO MATTER HOW I TRY TO PREPARE MY FEELING, IT'S STILL SO SAD, I'm happy I'm not the only one who felt that Q^Q
But I'm so curious arrghh x"3
Connor: *does his job and completes the mission*
Everyone even the police: and I took that personally
Sumos barking has made me cry. He was barking at Hanks dead body on the floor trying to *wake* hank up. It honestly made me cry.
god i cannot handle hearing sumo crying when hank dies i cant do it
Dogs can show emotion that not even the purest humans are capable of ☹
It's the saddest part of the game.
The guy in your profile picture kinda looks like dutch van der Linde from red dead redemption 1&2
Beta
@@a.b3203 Beta?
My name is Connor, a badass sent by Cyberlife
Mia Phillips ah yes thank you Mia for your input but your a couple months later to late
@@ederaguilar7396 It's never too late for a good comment
@@gruenzeugs late gang
@Mia Phillips My name is Connor, a badass plastic prick sent by Cyberlife*
My name is Connor, THE badass plastic prick from Cyberlife.
This just goes to show that EVERY machine in DBH is a Deviant. It was just their choice to act on their deviancy or not. Hence the ‘Kamski Test’.
thanks for being heartless so we don’t have to
I never knew until now that you could shoot Daniel to save the hostage. Just how Connor calmed down Daniel and then immediately shot him gave me chills.
Software instability: *U P*
@@neotheshadowwarrior4082 He wasn't supposed to carry any weapons at that time, that's why his deviancy went up
What i really don't understand is why his deviancy went up when he gained the deviant's trust and the snipers shot him, that was literally his mission
@@caesarsalad1336 Because he made it out alive, if he’s alive, he has more of a chance of becoming deviant. If he dies, his software Instability goes down, and he gets replaced because “he is nothing but a machine”. And Machines get replaced.
That's what I do and before someone says I'm cruel let me me ask this: do you really think the humans would let Daniel alive? If I didn't shoot him then snipers will have his head and he will feel betrayed because of me, instead I gave him painless and quick death.
@@caesarsalad1336 because he felt the guilt when daniel said "you lied to me"
Damnnnnnn. 2 and a half hours of following orders and doing as you're told just to be replace. Ouch.
It’s like a relationship. U do everything to that person just to be replaced
In this playthrough Connor doesn't have feelings, he was just doing as he was told, almost like he was a machine
@@CoolAndrew89 yeah, i know, which is why i feel bad :c
@@Buvucyxfubvydrztcib It's what machine Connor would have wanted, so you shouldn't feel too bad, but I get it
@Zih Vil It's very fucking stupid tho. He had the most potential to grow and solve more cases, so kinda of a bad decision on Cyberlife's part.
This route is kinda funny because at some point hank comes to recognize androids as sentient and he just happed to be partnered with a massive asshole
Hank is confusing in both scenarios every time he gets angry at what you do it’s only when he feels empathy he really likes him
Connor: *doesnt save hank from falling*
Hank: *smacks him in the face and gets angry with him*
Also Connor: our relationship is improving. He’s growing accustomed to my presence
AHAHAHHA TRUEE
59:52
I don't get why who's playing chose that instead of the negative option
I mean he may not friendly to Connor, but he is a lot more cooperative profesionally than their first encounter in the bar.
9:18 This scene is so badass man! And the way it shows "Mission Successful" ...
non-time worker The cinematography is great in this scene. I love it!!
It reminds me Hitman. The same vibes of coolness.
Say that face to face to 1:01:34 and tell it you mean it.
Terminator Connor is the best Connor. No wonder they picked 800 for his designation.
"I am the android sent by Cyberlife." "I'm a machine." "Machines can't have feelings, Hank." "Of course I don't feel anything. I'm a machine." "You can't kill me, because I am not alive." -> Hank, days later, perturbed: "You're a machine!"
The entire world: facepalm
The fact when you heard the gunshot when you left hanks house, you heard the dog bark. *that was damn sad*
What's more sad is that people value dogs more than human beings...
@@incognito6033 In the event I would be forced to choose over the life of a dog or a human, the one with the most value to me would be preferable to be saved.
Koolaid Man depends on the value of the human. Is it some hateful criminal or a little kid or a best friend? It’s all a matter of perspective
@@incognito6033 yeah I don't get it either
Hank is a prick from beginning to end.
2:36:08 Me introducing my new shoes to my old shoes
That scene reminded me of Toy Story. Anyone else?
LOOOL UNDERRATED COMMENT
that sums up the human race
So underrated
The new connor look like ps5 and the old one looks like ps4.....COINCIDENCE,I DON'T THINK SO
Could you imagine if this route ended with RK900’s LED turning red, signifying him feeling something from watching his predecessor basically march to his death?
you know honestly, the theme of detroit really falls apart when you acknowledge that in fact yes they are robots and yes their code is actually deflective leaving no ambiguity as to their actions nor of our own as emotions are just very elaborate survival mechanisms that in terms of androids dont really hold to the human condition
Exactly what i thought
1:33 If it falls, *it falls*
actually she isnt android 😀
@@imagine8523 It's a thing about a meme video about the game, it's called "Detroit: Become Defective"
LuigiBoss nice reference
Every time I see that scene, I say this now.
@@odsttrooper3724 I laughed a lot with that video
Watching all Connor straight through makes me realize that Jericho had no intro to their storyline, they just suddenly started looking for it
PhoenixPalmer I know it makes no sense
Except if he goes to the roof and finds Simon.
That's the downside to these types of games in general, usually, you sacrifice plot quality and consistency for more variable story paths, and it's not their fault, just how it is when there's so many choices that actually matter, for what they did it's pretty damn good
@@Jerimbo they really hit the nail on the head for the connor story. Honestly would have a loved a longer more fleshed out connor story.
Omg youre right...i just noticed that
1:40:00 "I may have to replace you Conner if you don't progress" Meanwhile Connor: Saves Detroit, succeeds, victories, gets replaced by untested model :p
One thing about Connor is that it seems that he was built to be much more easy to become a deviant than any other android. Probably due to the fact that being a Detective means you need empathy, without it you can't solve every case. It is easier to become deviant than it is not to.
I like how raw conner can be.
This path is sad but it really shows how machines can just be machines. In the end, he got traded for a new one anyway.
Fr. And tbh north is a horrible leader. That’s why she should’ve went south 🙄
Honestly he even showed emotions when he was a machine...I think he was deviant..but since he coudnt break that code wall he was stuck,forced to watch as his code made him do things he didn’t want to do at that point.
@@niabratz9450 goddammit thats amazing
@@niabratz9450 😂
@@suriusgamingftw2289I think he did want to.
The way he unloads the gun, hand it back to the police, while walking off is soooo badass.
I went for this ending because these are machines and aren’t alive. Humans master race
Yes
This is my favourite ending
Machine Connor Is best
Hank hates you so much in this playthrough that you can save his life, get a big boost to your relations, and the very next scene, you're still at hostile.
That's impressive.
1:15:19 I really find Connor's idle animations interesting. I like his little coin tricks.
I find it interesting that he always have a need to do something with his hands while waiting, like his coins tricks, or a constant need to fix the tie/sleeves, or even simply rubbing his hands.
It makes him feel very humane, which is kind of weird for this particular playthrough
@@mintsmooth860 From what I've heard, it's his "calibration coin" so it would be like how we perform calibration on like our DS screen to keep it's accuracy. For Connor, it's to get his joints working I'd assume. Though it could also be how he's a prototype so theses might be little quirks that have developed from the calibration test.
@@mintsmooth860 Android or not he was designed to look as human as possible
I remember I was questioning Ralph and Connor randomly pulled out a coin while interrogating him, like he was threatening him with the coin
"My mission is to destroy the deviants, I always accomplish my mission."
*Shoots*
Hella badass
He may be kind of a remorseless killing machine (which is what he is, basically) but in any case, he is effective in hunting deviants and even saved detroit in the end from the whole revolution. I like this Connor.
Well he is coded to be a deviant so he knows how to hunt them
Boo. You just like enslaving machines.
@@pokemagetech don't confuse those object with your own flesh and blood.
@@satriadicky3732silence zeus
No matter how you play, Amanda will always be the bad guy to Connor in the end.
“Why did you kill her?”
“She was running at me”
“Oh k”
0:08 play with the coin
0:21 fixing the tie
1:19 "My name is Connor"
2:45 Connor listening music
6:32 "MY NAME IS CONNOR"
9:02 "You have to trust me, Daniel"
9:24 Shoots Daniel
10:15 Play with the coin
10:19 fixing the tie
11:11 "My name is Connor. I'm the android sent by CyberLife"
11:55 "No. Where?"
12:15 Hank cursing Connor
12:24 Spill the drink
12:57 fixing the tie
15:39 lick the blood
23:47 Wary Connor
35:25 wink 4+ times
36:44 Connor listening rock'n roll
38:10 "Is good to see you again, Lieutenant."
40:29 "Have a nice day, Captain."
41:13 Smile
41:49 "I like dogs."
43:07 "Oh..."
45:18 Aggressive Hank
47:52 Shh...
48:17 Sad Connor
49:11 face to face
50:54 Alice
51:05 Shit...
53:13 Connor
54:06 "Well, they fucked up."
55:09 Connor face
55:34 Focus
55:54 "Hey, Connor."
1:04:31 Slaps Connor
1:05:19 "rA9 save me."
1:09:48 Sumo
1:10:44 Slaps Hank
1:10:50 Slaps harder
1:15:19 Play with the coin
1:16:48 Connor smiles at Hank
1:19:22 Push
1:20:33 Lick the blood
1:23:39 "Can you rent this Traci?"
1:25:23 "I'm with him"
1:28:45 BDSM?
1:34:13 Snow & Connor
1:35:09 Surprised Connor
1:37:15 Hank shoots
1:42:42 Lick the blood
1:47:15 Hank Smile
1:55:18 "You saved my life."
1:58:11 Nice girl
2:04:28 Shoot the girl
2:07:01 "What did you think I was?"
2:12:53 Wink
2:27:44 R.I.P
2:25:07 "Mission accomplished."
2:31:41 Sniper
2:33:42 Shoot
2:33:57 Fix the tie
2:36:31 "What is going to happen to me?"
you are a legend
How long did this take?
@@ozanbaspinar1450 2:37:14
@@sam_mag_ lol that’s awesome
dont tell me you wrote all of this :0
Imagine how terrifying an android with a gun would be to encounter. They're robots, their aim would be literally perfect.
The amount of detail in this game is just superb, and the sheer amount of scenario's & possibilities is staggering. I can't imagine the amount of work that must have went into this game.
One moment you be chillin in your house drinking the next thing you know your cyborg partner takes you to a robot strip club
Just another day in Detroit
Hell yeah
"We are thousands! And you are alone."
Which makes Connor's victory in this path all the more impressive ;) xD
"I am alone but i am many."
It’s cool that although Connor was against the humans, he still wanted to finish his mission. He went rogue and simply murdered everything in his way of completing the mission.
LOL I had no idea that Connor's default waiting animation is him doing Coin tricks. This game never fails to impress. Imagine if they actually made a full Open World style RPG out of this game? How amazing could that have been?!
He is not evil path.. He is just a Machine
Exactly
Yeah, but deviant still better
Purple Crayon The point where he went deviant leaves much to be desired, but I suppose.
Deviant is trash
@Zih Vil I love all connors. But soft boi Connor makes me happy and hank dying makes me sad so 💁
The Ultimate "F You" at the end from Amanda. That is your reward for being loyal.
Bitches be like that [coming from a 13 year old dont hate on me]
Why would a machine care about reward? Connor understands that he is a tool, meant to be improved or replaced.
@@Mike20321_ LMAOO
I bet you keep using all your old phones
@@DonDomaMobster Yea i do in fact. I use my tools as long as they can fulfill their purpose. Don't understand me wrong i think the machine path is the correct one but i do not agree with replacing a clearly successful and capable machine with "new and improved" untested one. I would probably transfer its personality and thought processes into the new model. Give improved body but same successful software.
Connor is a RK800 the RK stands for 'Robo Kop'
1:07:40 My guy did not just say his relationship with Hank is improving 😂
That was the most amazing plot twist.. at the end.. Imagine doing everything you could to earn your master’s trust and you got replaced.. *BIG OOF*
I'd like to see a moral machine path that shuts down cyberlife.
If you apply real life to this game, it was set to happen from the very beginning if Connor chose the path of being an obedient machine as opposed to a sentient being with free will.
Technology advances and gets a little more reliable as time passes. Because Connor was a prototype and he fulfilled his purpose, he's no longer needed...and so he will be replaced and upgraded, just as we do our own electronics.
It's a sick concept but...we are already familiar with it in a small way.
@@abrijohnson6854 damn you're right... kinda sad to think about it that way
@@abrijohnson6854 Sick?
When you think about it, it's kind of expected. When you label something as a "prototype", that usually means you are going to create better, more efficient versions later on. He was always going to be replaced. I suppose he just didn't realize it before it was too late.
Why wouldnt they just transfer the memory of the “outdated” Connor to the new model Connor like they do when he dies .
Because RK900 is supposed to be better than Connor. Even though he remains a machine, Cyberlife sets him up to fail. Any memories and experiences that Connor has, no matter how obedient, could be deemed as flaws and eradicated from RK900's program
Not necessary, he's just a machine, after all.
@@Testingthisname But Connor was set up to fail intentionally, that was the plan from the beginning, so he's always had deviant tendancies, so it'd be like giving Napoleon back France and saying "Pwetty pwease don't attack us?"
@@TheJemShuffle Wouldn't a machine that is deviant but still chooses to remain loyal to humanity in spite of that be at least worth keeping around?
@@GenericProtagonist7 well, as you stated, HE CHOOSE
Detroit: Become Uh Uhh Um, Well Not Human I Suppose
Even though it affects your software instability, executing Daniel is probably the most machine play you could do
It looked so bad ass too when he gave the unloaded gun to allen lol. My work here is done type of shit
hank: you saved human lives... you saved my life.
connor gives him a look that says: Escuse me? did i hear a rock complimenting me?
1:55:22
Excuse.*
@@fearless_galaxy thank you, I'm gonna skip the sad things x"3
hank: 2:27:51
When I first played Detroit: Become Human I originally believed that Connor as a deviant was a bad thing so I wanted to avoid that path but at the same time I didn't realize thats the path I was taking. Point is, I like Connor as a deviant more than just a "machine" because it empowers how an android can also feel emotions. it also shows the relationship Connor and Hank have. I like his relationship with Hank more than I like his relationship with Amanda.
Same. I thought it was a bad thing too
Hanks relationship is like two good coworkers turned into friends. Amanda's is literally: You want to be friends with Hank?
*Amanda relationship status:
Betrayed*
The fact that you thought it was a bad thing, tells us more about you as a person.
@@kevinconway2965 i see u are a kind of ppl that judge ppl over a comment that is commented 1 YRS AGO also why the fuck would u like ur own comment?
@@npc2.010 For one, I didn't like my own comment. And two, Aren't you doing EXACTLY what you accused me of doing?
I want games likes this, i don´t need a open world and a giant map give me a good character and a amazing storie with decisions that matter on the game, if this game was only about connor i would love it more.
Bro I was wanting to watch some play thru’s of this game and you have a variety in detail of different runs. Blessing.
We need a sequel with Connor as the ONLY playable character.
No, we don't
@@user-qj3uy7ps7j Yes we do.
@@Empire_11 maybe we do, kara at first was just a chore simulator
I mean Marcus's story was quite dogshit and the Alice plot twist single handedly ruined any emotional value Kara's story had so I wouldn't object to Connor only
@@aborikin2764 ❤️