Junior Vs Senior Code - How To Write Better Code

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  • čas přidán 27. 04. 2020
  • Writing code is easy. Writing clean code, though, is much harder. In this video I take a look at two different code examples from a beginner, intermediate, and advanced level. The goal of this is to show you how a senior developer will think while programming and how they will structure their code to be as clean and well-written as possible.
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    GitHub Code: github.com/WebDevSimplified/N...
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    - How senior developers think
    - Using guard clauses to clean up code
    - The differences between senior and junior developers
    - What to think about when programming
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  • @paper.clouds
    @paper.clouds Před 3 lety +1662

    “Any fool can write code that a computer can understand. Good programmers write code that humans can understand.” - Martin Fowler

    • @gautambansal8952
      @gautambansal8952 Před 3 lety +54

      Cringe worthy

    • @paulphillips3783
      @paulphillips3783 Před 3 lety +15

      Reading between the lines Mr Fowler is saying: "A good programmer has to have too much time on their hands and doesn't really need to write efficient code." I'd personally go with "a good programmer writes code so well it never needs to be read again by human eyes". However, an ivory tower programmer writes code in hieroglyphs/dreams in regular expressions - good or bad doesn't apply.

    • @invisibruh2
      @invisibruh2 Před 3 lety +3

      "i am stupid"
      -Me(Guyed game)

    • @DassPwNaGe
      @DassPwNaGe Před 3 lety +12

      @@paulphillips3783 I guess you don't work with pull request and everyone can just submit there code then?

    • @paulphillips3783
      @paulphillips3783 Před 3 lety

      @Mortar - Lol - if a good programmer has written 'good' code, then it'd be an inferior programmer that would pull it to 'adapt for new requirements'. Another good programmer would inherit/polymorphise/override it into a new function with wider/different scope.

  • @syaleni2
    @syaleni2 Před 3 lety +84

    I think planning is also very important. I find myself doing a much cleaner code when I spend some time drawing some flowchart and wrtting down sort of a plan on a piece of paper before jumping on my keyboard. I would also add to that, separation of concerns and decouplized code is the key to maintain a large piece of code.

    • @raidoung4100
      @raidoung4100 Před rokem

      weird you didnt get more likes:p finally someone mentions flowcharts:p so old-schoold, me like it;>

    • @emendodesigns
      @emendodesigns Před 9 měsíci

      @@geraldjoe-smith-mcnea6829 I'm 31 and I can't remember any of my passwords. There are too many to remember. You should switch your phone password to a swipe to unlock or something easier.

  • @TheNacropolice
    @TheNacropolice Před 4 lety +1014

    As a professional developer, I greatly dislike one liner if statements. In my view it makes it harder to see the logic if it does something even slightly long. Adding some spacing, and curly braces is always good.

    • @joecamroberon9322
      @joecamroberon9322 Před 4 lety +91

      Agreed. This video is not that great. Yea there is objectively good code but at a certain point it is subjective.

    • @Robert-zc8hr
      @Robert-zc8hr Před 4 lety +32

      I wonder what you feel about one liner if statements WITH braces. In my view, if you don't get over the 80 character limit, then putting everything in one line is fine.

    • @cvbattum
      @cvbattum Před 4 lety +35

      There are some cases when I am a fan of single-line if-statements. The thing I use it most for is guard checks that simply return. For example the if (input == null) return; is really concise to me. I'm not a fan of putting much more there though, and I also dislike using it for more complex logic checks...

    • @ericsaul9306
      @ericsaul9306 Před 4 lety +5

      I agree, I am actually in favor of creating wrapping functions with dedicated guard functions if your logic it's too complex, that's better than creating one liners a hundred characters long with your code still being compact and easy to read, this video is lacking some good functional programming principles and also some good test driven development principles

    • @lukeolfert9010
      @lukeolfert9010 Před 4 lety +41

      Ironically I think a common mark of novice programmers is mistaking concision for efficiency. Clean code is readable first and foremost, there's really no advantage to minimizing line count for it's own sake. If the length of your code is suspicious, dropping braces and using ternary statements probably shouldn't be your first reaction.

  • @deswpNET
    @deswpNET Před 4 lety +113

    About the first pro function "numberToAccountingString":
    While "==" (double equal signs) does indeed cover both "undefined" and "null", I'd argue that using "===" (triple equal signs) in general is more readable. And as others already mentioned, "typeof number === 'number'" would be the most readable and logically correct way to check for the type.
    And when entering undefined/null, it would just return undefined. Wouldn't I expect a string? Let it throw, preferrably with a custom message "throw new Error('Invalid parameter type')". If the function expects a number parameter and receives something else, it should stop so the stacktrace to debug will be as short as possible.

    • @crax83
      @crax83 Před 4 lety

      This!

    • @EliaGrady19
      @EliaGrady19 Před 3 lety +9

      Throwing an error is the way to go. Fail fast and spectacularly - less bugs in production that way.

    • @piyushupadhyay4571
      @piyushupadhyay4571 Před 3 lety

      How About if(number) //.....

    • @deswpNET
      @deswpNET Před 3 lety +6

      @@piyushupadhyay4571 0 is a number, but is considered falsy and would not go into that if block.

    • @AndreBradshaw
      @AndreBradshaw Před 3 lety +1

      I am not even close to a pro, but is it even necessary to check the type here? Even if we are expecting string numbers, we can just rely on the less_than condition to account for nullish values since javascript type coercion will automatically recognize a number string as a number in our condition -- like so:
      const numberToAccountingString = number => number < 0 ? `(${Math.abs(number)})` : number?.toString();

  • @awekeningbro1207
    @awekeningbro1207 Před 4 lety +862

    Today i realized i am a mix of noob, advanced and pro programmer.

  • @jt16omes
    @jt16omes Před 4 lety +1463

    When you watch this, you realize how many errors typescript prevents

    • @bibi2900
      @bibi2900 Před 4 lety +68

      Absolutely! Don’t blame programming language faults on programmers. They would use anything that the language offers. This is the problem of a fully dynamic language... why think about naming the variable so that you can guess that it takes a number, but not adding a type description???

    • @user-vs1mn8ig8w
      @user-vs1mn8ig8w Před 4 lety +3

      John Yepthomi
      ?

    • @johnyepthomi892
      @johnyepthomi892 Před 4 lety +3

      @@user-vs1mn8ig8w go read what a type script is

    • @hashnoodle2499
      @hashnoodle2499 Před 4 lety +12

      @@johnyepthomi892 ?

    • @johnyepthomi892
      @johnyepthomi892 Před 4 lety +2

      @@hashnoodle2499 noob

  • @soanvig
    @soanvig Před 3 lety +179

    Seing your "pro" or "senior" code I would recommend creating one more level above it, since still few things can be fixed, so the whole is more maintanable.
    First of all, if you have function `numberToString` you should throw if you get anything other than number.
    You actually made code *worse* by returning undefined, since you are silently failing that way, and it will throw in completely another place, will take longer time to debug, and the error will be less meaningul. It's even better to not handle it at all, and let it fall naturally, since then you get an error in precise place, which caused it.
    The same applies to handling "null" in second function.
    Further more: if you insist on handling such things, don't cherry pick. What's the point of validating if argument is null or not, if you expect array? You are still not validating the content of the array, but you get the impression, that you have validated the code. You quickly come to a place when you are either still cherry-picking or validating absolutely everything, and the code becomes unreadable.
    You need to trust your own application, you need to add validation mostly only on I/O layer (reading unexpected input like files or API), and you need to *let it fail*. Failing is good, because it shows during simple input testing, if everything works.
    Each one used `if` or some kind of condition, or nesting is literally making code worse. The less the better.
    I would even imply, that most of the things do not require handling anything more than happy-path (and any states, that are actually valid and possible), because if something fails, then it means you have the bug in your code: either your validation on input is not right, or you have typo or something. By not handling it, you are going to find it ten times quicker, usually during manual testing

    • @szwimzs
      @szwimzs Před 3 lety +5

      I agree about cherry picking, but not so sure about "not validating and trusting your application" part. in this scenario, it does work, but if there is a class that is just storing things, and you are not the only developer working on the project, should you not validate what other data sources are sending to the class? or is there a better way to handle it? I am in the habit of writing validations in all parts of the program :)

    • @soanvig
      @soanvig Před 3 lety +11

      @@szwimzs it depends on separation of concerns. You should trust the code you have influence over. If there is another team developing another modules, you may treat them as external input. It really comes down to architecture. If architecture mirrors team structure it may be nice to add validation on the borderline.
      If you are talking about domain objects, then it is good behavior to ensure they are built correctly, as it is not function performing operation, but the data itself.

    • @kodedart2311
      @kodedart2311 Před 3 lety +1

      With that being said what are your versions?

    • @edwardspencer9397
      @edwardspencer9397 Před 3 lety +5

      @@soanvig Why have another layer when the advanced level in itself is difficult for most. Let us not forget that most of the crowd out here would be very happy just getting to the advanced level. If you go on adding layers you will agree that there will always be a guy out there much smarter than you are and who can write code better than you.

    • @Income-ko6us
      @Income-ko6us Před 3 měsíci

      I don't agree with you that you shouldn't validate your functions or methods. I believe it's crucial to validate functions or methods, especially when they're intended for use by other teams or programs. Let's consider an example: imagine we have a function named calculateInterest(amount). We might trust that it's implemented correctly and will return the expected interest amount so no validation checks are written, just the logic that calculates the interest. However, in practice, mistakes happen, and in our haste, we might accidentally pass in incorrect values, potentially breaking the code.
      The real problem arises when the function fails silently, without raising an error. In such cases, the code continues execution, unaware that something went wrong but returning the wrong results. This silent failure can lead to significant issues, especially when even small discrepancies in calculations, like one percent versus eighty percent, can result in substantial differences for users - either paying more or less than they should.
      To mitigate this risks, validation checks must incorporated into our methods or functions. We can even separate the validation logic to keep our code organized. The validation checks should also address edge cases and ensuring inputs are valid. A function or method without checks is a function or method doomed to fail.

  • @George-or3uv
    @George-or3uv Před 3 lety +9

    I like that you take the time to work us through the beginner, advanced and pro versions. Very nice touch.

  • @alonsojimenez7487
    @alonsojimenez7487 Před 4 lety +45

    One thing for the new programmers to know (at least from my perspective as I consider my self a mid/advanced programmer) is that not always you get the code as the last file for the first time writing a function. I think the 90% of the time we will write the "noob" code and then start depurating code readability and errors caused by un-programmed test cases. So, if there's a new programmer around here, don't worry if your code doesn't look as the "pro" code at first, but make sure it ends looking and working as so. And remember it's a never ending journey of learning, there's no programmer in the world that has nothing to learn or improve.

  • @aaronrothwell7615
    @aaronrothwell7615 Před 4 lety +956

    I've seen "pro" code in production that looks worse than the "noob" code.

    • @jofftiquez
      @jofftiquez Před 4 lety +16

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHA true that

    • @dragonore2009
      @dragonore2009 Před 4 lety +8

      Sorry about that.

    • @chelinemagsano6185
      @chelinemagsano6185 Před 4 lety +57

      I see these jr. vs. sr. code quite often as if these seniors don't write ugly codes as well.. why not just call it "write better code"...

    • @romanpul
      @romanpul Před 4 lety +24

      true xDDDD
      I think a lot of this 'pro' programming comes from people in their late 20s and early 30s who have already gathered quite some experience in coding but not lost their passion that much, like myself(just talking 'bout my age here xD). But in practice it is usually more important to get things done than getting it done with nicely formatted code

    • @SirSpartAfterDark
      @SirSpartAfterDark Před 4 lety +46

      I pulled my hair apart looking at "pro" code in production
      I pulled my hair apart looking at my own code I wrote a few weeks ago
      I retired from coding and changed industry

  • @beefcakees
    @beefcakees Před rokem +2

    Yo, I have been learning from your channel all morning. I just wanted to say, thanks for putting these up, thanks for showing your passion and making code fun. Also thank you for keeping almost all of your videos around 30-60 minutes. It really helps me focus and take it like a small class, take a break and then come to the next one. Keep up the great work my guy. Rock on

  • @berenscott8999
    @berenscott8999 Před 3 lety +14

    Back in the old days of having to insert cards into a machine, efficiency of code was the most important aspect. You didn't have any capacity to fuck around. Technology moved forward in such a way that optimization became an after thought. Back in the day you had no choice but to make your code as best as possible.

  • @neolectron
    @neolectron Před 4 lety +557

    I disagree on the pro code.
    the function silence the error, it's not a good practice.
    if the function isn't design to get an undefined or a null, just make it crash and catch the error elsewhere.
    .
    if you don't you gonna have hard times finding bugs when you'll get an undefined...
    because the function just silence the error....

    • @A_Lesser_Man
      @A_Lesser_Man Před 4 lety +22

      um...seems if you need to make the function ensure it got the right data you have a bigger flaw this function shouldn't be addressing!

    • @jointtask4047
      @jointtask4047 Před 4 lety +4

      Very true... it's makes debugging easy. and that way you can manage all the errors from diff functions in one places

    • @soanvig
      @soanvig Před 3 lety +15

      Sir, you have my vote. I literally wrote the same comment, longer tough, and then scrolled through what's already written.

    • @M1KE9815
      @M1KE9815 Před 3 lety

      How can you prevent thread exception errors without a try catch?

    • @prykris
      @prykris Před 3 lety

      @@M1KE9815 make sure you pass right datum?

  • @phantom7132
    @phantom7132 Před 4 lety +53

    What differentiates a junior and a senior dev is the fact that seniors can solve problems way faster due to their experience. Seniors are not always the 'better' ones. Good video!

    • @gamertag8721
      @gamertag8721 Před 2 lety +2

      I think this covers my sentiments too, but I would also say that a good senior also knows to listen to juniors as well.

  • @ankushsharma3181
    @ankushsharma3181 Před 3 lety +9

    Started watching your videos today and instantly became a fan! This here is code gold!

  • @nicklandreth2527
    @nicklandreth2527 Před 3 lety +4

    This really gave me some simple actionable advice to improve my code. Thank you!

  • @IragmanI
    @IragmanI Před 4 lety +6

    Thanks for the emphasis on using 'constant' patterns. Something I 'kind of'' do but without really realising its worth

  • @Avean
    @Avean Před 4 lety +5

    I am only a hobby programmer and first time i heard about Guard Clauses. I really love it! Looking at others code specially with tons of if else statements can be a nightmare. This is so much cleaner! Looking at guard clauses i see immediatly what its doing.

  • @SecretEyeSpot
    @SecretEyeSpot Před 3 lety

    I love how every question i began to ask as i was watching was answered by the end of the video. Thank you!

  • @josephmarsh5031
    @josephmarsh5031 Před 3 lety

    I enjoy the style and how clean, quick and succinct you are with your class. Nice work!

  • @KnightShade227
    @KnightShade227 Před 4 lety +3

    as a noob, this was good to see the path in front of me and some practical uses. of course real code is more extensive, but still a good launch pad, thanks!

  • @sech1243
    @sech1243 Před 4 lety +122

    Thumbnail be like:
    Minified code vs formatted code

    • @sodiboo
      @sodiboo Před 4 lety +4

      minified code is certainly not noob code, it's more just pro code that's been made to look impossible to read

    • @alfa_q
      @alfa_q Před 4 lety +16

      @@sodiboo what? minified code is just code that is run through a minifier/compressor... having minified code does not really suggest/imply that the quality of code being written is "pro" lol.

    • @sech1243
      @sech1243 Před 4 lety

      Terrain
      Yes.
      But the thumbnail is minified code on the top under “noob” and formatted code under “pro code” which - as you stated - is inaccurate. I was pointing out the, understandable (how does one portray noob code in a thumbnail?) but inaccurate nature of the thumbnail.
      It just struck me as odd, is all.

    • @sech1243
      @sech1243 Před 4 lety

      We work with minified javascript packages daily in production - but (at least I do) prefer to use the regular versions during development. Certain IDE’s don’t really like indexing minified code very well and will miss imported functions quite often...Particularly Jetbrains IDE.
      Despite this, they are still my favorite development environments to work with.

    • @ThePC007
      @ThePC007 Před 3 lety

      The pro code is also not very good. If you need comments to explain what you are doing then you need to introduce more functions.

  • @bhupenderKeswani
    @bhupenderKeswani Před 4 lety +1

    Loved it, this how we roll. Everytime I visit our code, I stare it for a while and see if I can apply something I learnt recently. JavaScript has evolved like anything, specially since last few years. From FOR loops to MAP, REDUCE and FILTER, makes Dev's life interesting.

  • @shumiyao
    @shumiyao Před 3 lety

    Thank you! How enlightening! I should start checking this channel every Sunday morning as a routine.

  • @LBF_NotGnome
    @LBF_NotGnome Před 4 lety +19

    if we're so concerned about the number parameter being a number; We can just use the typeof operator. (typeof number == 'number'). This is how I would approach this problem set when it comes to validating the argument(s).

    • @HenriqueErzinger
      @HenriqueErzinger Před 3 lety +3

      you're right, with the exception that it should be === instead of ==, in javascript. (not that yours wouldn't work, it's just best practice)

    • @user-ou5uu6ff9r
      @user-ou5uu6ff9r Před 3 lety

      Yes, but you forgot that typeof NaN == 'number' too in JS. And so it would be better to use (typeof number === 'number' && isFinite(number))

  • @okancolak3904
    @okancolak3904 Před 3 lety +37

    man hear this from a noob: I wouldn't use any function, i'd just write the whole code every time i need it... duh

  • @tolsen6432
    @tolsen6432 Před 3 lety +9

    I didn't know they were called "guard clauses" but I used them all the time. It just seemed smarter to me. But I got criticized by senior programmers saying that the code in functions should flow from top to bottom and returning early was bad. So now I use noob programming styles to keep the senior programmers happy.

    • @_yakumo420
      @_yakumo420 Před 2 lety +9

      I don't know what kind of 'seniors' you're working with but returning early is not a bad thing whatsoever.

    • @Ultrajuiced
      @Ultrajuiced Před 2 lety +1

      @@_yakumo420 Dijkstra's grandsons probably.

    • @GulfCoastGrit
      @GulfCoastGrit Před 2 lety

      I used to go back and forth all the time about this myself. I finally settled on making it as visible and as obvious as possible. If I can put all my guard clauses at the top I do so, and if not I like to create a small “island” and comment it so it stands out. Also, I notice they looking through either my old code or other examples, a lot of early returns could be circumvented by doing validation elsewhere or just making type safe objects. Granted, you can go overboard with that quite easily. I’d say for simple programs and small functions guard clauses are totally fine. For bigger beasts, some rewriting to include the above might be a good tool to use. Had to learn all this the hard way when someone looked over my work and told me I was “primitive obsessed” and I though, “I have no idea what that means, but it doesn’t sound good!” 😂

    • @delanmorstik7619
      @delanmorstik7619 Před 2 lety

      @@Ultrajuiced A bad joke, since most of the time he was 💯 percent right. The worst thing about programmers is that they are like normal people - they want a solution that always work, a paradigm that is always the best. There is no universal formula. But people are people.

  • @pjos6406
    @pjos6406 Před rokem

    You the man Kyle, these videos are very helpful. I spent the last couple of days practicing what I've learned so far (not much) to create a calculator, so now I have good pointers on how to go back and make it slightly better than terrible :)

  • @B00Mnation
    @B00Mnation Před 4 lety +169

    Really surprised you didn’t use an example where helper functions would be beneficial. Learning to decompose a problem into smaller steps that are solved by well-named functions is a key aspect of writing “pro” code. Still, there were some good tips in there when it comes to writing a single function or block of logic.

    • @temez1
      @temez1 Před 4 lety +2

      Agree. In the second example, the function should use helper functions for readability and clean code practices. Otherwise, a good video but could be a bit shorter tho.

    • @driden1987
      @driden1987 Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you, was looking for this comment. That code is not 'pro' yet

    • @siddharthverma4017
      @siddharthverma4017 Před 3 lety +1

      but multiple function calls increase time complexity

    • @B00Mnation
      @B00Mnation Před 3 lety +5

      @@siddharthverma4017 news flash: people rarely give a fuck about a few extra extra function calls in real codebases. And even if they did, good engineers know that you should almost always be willing to sacrifice microseconds of performance for code readability.

    • @0bmerlin
      @0bmerlin Před 3 lety

      @@siddharthverma4017 in some old or dynamic languages, but most languages inline those kinds of small functions

  • @theretroman3862
    @theretroman3862 Před 4 lety +6

    Totally awesome man! \m/ . Would love to see more of these advanced videos as well and real scenarios and good practices.
    Would you also consider doing projects where you can cover different JS frameworks? I would be interested in Svelte a lot.

  • @gFamWeb
    @gFamWeb Před 3 lety +1

    Once I realized guard clauses were a thing (didn't have a word for them until now), I've always done my best to use them. It makes so much sense, and is cleaner.

  • @konung5
    @konung5 Před 3 lety +10

    11:20 Would definitely trip me up since my primary language is Ruby. In Ruby (0 || 5 ) would evaluate to 0, because 0 is not "Falsey", it's "Truthy".

  • @kenn850
    @kenn850 Před 4 lety +486

    What about ternary operators , simple and elegant.

    • @uNexAPB
      @uNexAPB Před 4 lety +23

      That's too pro :+)

    • @tylerjenkins2271
      @tylerjenkins2271 Před 4 lety +18

      Yup, I was looking for the one-liner.

    • @PranavBhatt_er
      @PranavBhatt_er Před 4 lety +9

      Ternary is for only who is become Advance Pro in programming. 😂😀

    • @sinamirhejazi268
      @sinamirhejazi268 Před 4 lety +63

      Ternary operators are hard to read. It's better to use if-else instead of ternary operators

    • @sh-ku5xr
      @sh-ku5xr Před 4 lety +100

      @@sinamirhejazi268 I disagree. I find them very readable. Admittedly you have to know what they are to read them but when you do it's very easy to construct readable operations. user.isAuthenticated? : null
      vs
      if (user.isAuthenticated) {
      return
      } else {
      return null
      }

  • @mygosity
    @mygosity Před 4 lety +4

    Great video explaining the difference in readability. Just one nitpick, I'd expect the pro version of the last sample of code dealing with cost to be accurate to the required decimals. If we're going to go all the way with professional grade code, floating point numbers need to be handled carefully when it comes to money. We actually had a discrepency crop up at an insurance firm that was not rounding the values before adding the total resulting in decimals that couldn't be reconciled, which is a super important detail when dealing with money.

  • @sugiantolim223
    @sugiantolim223 Před 2 lety +1

    I don't remember where i read this quote from, but it's one of my favorites
    "write your codes like your colleague is a serial killer that knows where you live"

  • @kamalsyed4237
    @kamalsyed4237 Před 4 lety

    Another great watch, thank you for taking the time to explain the difference.

  • @idemchenko-js
    @idemchenko-js Před 3 lety +57

    Congratulations on this great video, a pleasure to watch! But with all the respect, let me disagree with you regarding 5:09. You mentioned a very good point regarding edge cases. However, returning `undefined` is also not ideal. I’d suggest either throwing an Error with a descriptive message here or using a Maybe type (like in FP) and chain any further computation. Returning `undefined` will simply defer the problem as the caller needs to check what kind of value the function returned. For example, the following snippet might fail due to the same reason: numberToAccountingString().charAt(1). What do you think?

    • @JibrilJoker
      @JibrilJoker Před 2 lety +9

      I had a guy downvote me on a SO answer over this exact point… I really dislike returning undefined. It always reminds me of returning NULL in Java.

    • @armynyus9123
      @armynyus9123 Před 2 lety +6

      yeah, the good old 10mio dollar mistake..
      I also tend to agree. When something unforseen happens then functions should rather crash (verbosely in the best case) than trying to defer the crash - what if some later part of the program writes the accounting records one by one to a file and crashes then - with a half written file. Being processed by a booking system, detecting the change and... ok, I stop here ;-)
      So yeah, better assert than return, agreed.

    • @rednexie
      @rednexie Před rokem

      if i ran something with console on and got undefined returned, i'd just think there is an error with the code.
      A hundred percent i agree

    • @kybkap8686
      @kybkap8686 Před rokem

      Do function()?.methode(1)
      What do you think

    • @idemchenko-js
      @idemchenko-js Před rokem +1

      @@kybkap8686 In my opinion the use of "?" only disguises the "if-else". The problem is that there's no "else"-branch when "?" is used. But, often there must be one. Imagine, you click a button, the "if" part evaluates to false and the button does nothing. This is the worst for the user - a "sometimes-do-something" button.

  • @eduardoernestocorralesreyn7721

    That was very interesting, but as a pro, you need to do a better kind of type checking and throw an error if you pass wrong data. You can test your script using other data types (like an object or a string) to see what happens. This can be avoided by using a better comparison operator (always prefer === over ==). For example, you don't want to return something other than a string (your function name has to...String 🤷‍♂️). So, you should consider using some kind of type validation and throw an error. There are many options for doing that. You can use typeof number === 'number', trying to convert to number with Number(), parseInt() or parseFloat(), but my favorite is using isNaN: if (isNaN(number)) throw new Error('Not a number'). That way you can use string representations of numbers like "-0.75", but keep in mind that you need to use Number(number) after validation to turn the strings into numbers for good results.

  • @Bigsupreme2000
    @Bigsupreme2000 Před 2 lety

    This freaking function thing i ran away for long.bbut now i start understanding pro functional programming and its benefits, thanks to tutorials like this. Thanks sir.

  • @SushilYadav7
    @SushilYadav7 Před 4 lety +35

    I was writing code just like the advanced version 4-5 months back. Recently, I learnt about writing clean code and now I think I write like a pro.😁 I was requesting you in comment section of your other videos to create videos on refactoring/clean code since long time. 😄 I like your explanation. Keep bringing more videos like this. Thanks. 👍🏼

    • @mikaelborhzka7627
      @mikaelborhzka7627 Před 4 lety

      How and where did you learn to write clean code please?

    • @SushilYadav7
      @SushilYadav7 Před 4 lety

      Mikael Borhzka geektrust.in

    • @SushilYadav7
      @SushilYadav7 Před 4 lety

      Juan2003gtr Yeah. I know most of the experienced guys don’t know about clean code because either they are not interested in learning or they don’t even know that the code they write can be made better. Many of us(young coders) are very good at DSA due to the growing competitive programming culture. It will take some time to develop the culture of clean code.

    • @stephanweinberger
      @stephanweinberger Před 4 lety +1

      @@mikaelborhzka7627 Robert C. Martin - "Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship" is a nice read :-)

  • @MultiMrAsd
    @MultiMrAsd Před 3 lety +33

    Great video, but as a tech lead I have some complaints about your pro code :p
    First of all you should always fail early. Instead of returning undefined in your function you should definitely throw!
    Also the name numberToAccountingString implies:
    - should always return a string
    - should only accept numbers
    So if you decide to check inputs you need to make sure that its a number.
    You need to ensure that only strings are returned.
    If your turning a number into a string you should use toLocaleString(). If you want to disrespect locale to is explicitly by giving it as param to toLocaleString().

  • @jucallme1
    @jucallme1 Před 3 lety

    One down side to that reduce function is not everyone can follow that function. But i've learnt more from your decomposition of code in the last 4 videos i've watched than years of grind vs uni. More! im hooked!

  • @bostevens236
    @bostevens236 Před 3 lety

    You're helping me get a lot better at Javascript and React! You're the man!

  • @PaulBrownclk-me
    @PaulBrownclk-me Před 4 lety +144

    The first example you should really test number is of type number , rather than test for null imo

    • @ianhalstead2030
      @ianhalstead2030 Před 4 lety +13

      Alifka Aditya Putra one reason is because a different variable type, specially object, could be the value and it would make the code break. If you check for number type, it prevents more possible errors, and is not any more complex

    • @PaulBrownclk-me
      @PaulBrownclk-me Před 4 lety +11

      Alifka Aditya Putra just to elaborate, we are expecting a number , so it makes sense to only proceed if it is a number being passed in, this will cover all non number scenarios in one test.. 🤘

    • @lazy5877
      @lazy5877 Před 4 lety +1

      I would use this: if (!NaN(number)) return number > 0 ? number.toString : '('+number.toString+')' in the first example. Simple and clean solution.

    • @PaulBrownclk-me
      @PaulBrownclk-me Před 4 lety +11

      Lazy you may use it, but I wouldn't .. it looks like a spider ran across your code while the ink was still wet😬

    • @lazy5877
      @lazy5877 Před 4 lety

      @@PaulBrownclk-me Why? You mean ugly or unreadable? It checks type for you... And specifically returns result in parenthesis like he wanted for negative numbers. Sure you can use just a standard if else if you don't like this "? :" syntax. I just wanted emphasize that there is something like NaN.

  • @awekeningbro1207
    @awekeningbro1207 Před 4 lety +62

    Kyle: "noob programmer-"
    Me: what is it?

  • @Antonym1978
    @Antonym1978 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for this cool video. It'd be great to see more videos on the topic of writing more professional code in JS and React specifically.

  • @clydegrey5060
    @clydegrey5060 Před 4 lety

    This was an excellent video. You nailed the refactoring of those examples.

  • @orelhassid5812
    @orelhassid5812 Před 4 lety +98

    "And that is the important thing about programming - It's not about writing something that works, Its about writing something that easy to read and easy to maintain"

    • @HenriqueErzinger
      @HenriqueErzinger Před 3 lety +15

      "[...] something that easy to read and easy to maintain **and works**"

    • @Asgaia
      @Asgaia Před 3 lety

      @@HenriqueErzinger Code that works needs no maintenance .... ;-)

    • @Asgaia
      @Asgaia Před 3 lety

      At least 60% of professional (paid for ...) programmers dont know this.

    • @g33xzi11a
      @g33xzi11a Před 3 lety +4

      AsgaiaMetal that’s not true at all. What happens if you’re linking to an external library and that library changes? What if there are features added, removed, or changed? What if new devices use hardware that’s incompatible with your code and induces bugs or outright breaks your code; for example, a domino effect from some change in the way an op code works cascades down and disrupts out of date libraries and APIs? Of course you need maintenance.

    • @xabcyabc9230
      @xabcyabc9230 Před 3 lety

      It is, but there is this one little trick : good code, doesn't need to be improved, and thus doesn't need to be maintained. There's no perfect code, but I know when I'm looking at code that has very little bugs. It's very hard to achieve, but it is possible.

  • @Alche_mist
    @Alche_mist Před 4 lety +9

    In the first example, I expected to see ```-number``` instead of ```Math.abs(number)``` in the number < 0 case. After all, you know the number variable is a negative number by then, so you can save yourself the hassle of calling a function that checks for it again.
    Also, I checked and updated my Python miniproject while watching this to make it cleaner. The concepts work the same.
    Also, for other pythonistas out there watching this: Have docstrings. The feature is in the spec for a reason.

    • @timoteostewart
      @timoteostewart Před 2 lety +1

      Came here to comment this about ```-number``` instead of expensive library function Math.abs(). Good eye @Alchemist!!

    • @moraai6263
      @moraai6263 Před 2 lety

      +num works either way

  • @XMachete
    @XMachete Před 3 lety +1

    there used to be a site, codefights, that was great for this. They posted problems and you could code a solution in any language they listed. Once you submitted your solution and it passed the test suite, here's the great part: you could look at other solutions that passed. It was great for seeing how other people successfully solved the issue and compare efficiency, and number of lines used, big O complexity, etc.

  • @PenguinPizza418
    @PenguinPizza418 Před 2 lety

    Wow never thought of it this way. Thanks for sharing

  • @AndrewErwin73
    @AndrewErwin73 Před 4 lety +22

    I don't like the inconsistency of single line if statements. It makes it more difficult for other programmers to add any updates. "Clean" is nice, but consistent is a lot better!

    • @galaxysamsung3320
      @galaxysamsung3320 Před 4 lety +1

      I agree, sir!

    • @tim.bogdanov
      @tim.bogdanov Před 4 lety +2

      agree

    • @modernkennnern
      @modernkennnern Před 4 lety

      I prefer single-line to non-block two-liners.
      I basically always use blocks, except for one scenario, in Guard Clauses - "if (True) return;".

  • @julianavar3836
    @julianavar3836 Před 3 lety +3

    for `logic/pro` I would also recommend using a ternary operator to better explain the if then else behavior, and it also keeps it in one lines (unless you wanna break each statement for better readability) and it also makes you not repeat the return statement more than the number of times you need to ;)

  • @ramigoual1246
    @ramigoual1246 Před rokem

    that was a great video especially that you gave three stages of improvement and not only two like most of the videos on the internet, thanks and sending greetings from france 🙏

  • @00wheelie00
    @00wheelie00 Před 3 lety +1

    Im absolutely a beginner, but my first version was your pro example. That's how I was taught.

  • @theo_ludwig
    @theo_ludwig Před 4 lety +3

    Really interesting, but I would say sometime nested if statement is clearer than in the pro version of the first example 'logic'.
    But yeah for this example it's perfect, really more clean the pro version.
    Just depends of the situation actually.
    In my opinion functions should be simple as possible so checking value if it's null or it's not a number etc should be handle before you execute it, so your function can do exactly what you want if the right value and with JSDoc you can have comments to know what type is attended (or with TypeScript), only my opinion but both are good.
    It's really important to write good code so you in the future or others people can see exactly what is doing your code etc.

  • @TheMadEpsylon
    @TheMadEpsylon Před 4 lety +5

    Serious question regarding the guard clause:
    Wouldnt it be cleaner to just use e.g. if (!items || .....)
    This option will catch null and undefined

  • @rcambero1140
    @rcambero1140 Před 3 lety

    It was pretty awesome and simple at the same time! Thank you for the video!

  • @shutterradio
    @shutterradio Před 4 lety

    Nice stuff! I Would love to see more "best practices" video like this!

  • @geeshta
    @geeshta Před 4 lety +8

    The thumbnail for the "Noob" code is just a min.js file :D I don't think a noob could write a minimized js :D

  • @Manjeetkundu
    @Manjeetkundu Před 3 lety +69

    Some developer follow the theory - "If it was not easy to write, it shouldn't be easy to read".

  • @colemanmckinney776
    @colemanmckinney776 Před 3 lety

    This video made so much sense to me. Thank you for sharing it, I definitely followed and liked

  • @jefersoncosta2621
    @jefersoncosta2621 Před 3 lety

    Thanks! Always appreciate video that talks about clean code.

  • @kishoreandra
    @kishoreandra Před 4 lety +7

    This video makes noob to think he can write advanced and advanced a pro.....Amazing video Kyle as always.....🤚🏻👌🏻

    • @Borlays
      @Borlays Před 4 lety +1

      This video makes noob think he just became a pro and tomorrow will go ask for wage rise :))

    • @kishoreandra
      @kishoreandra Před 4 lety

      @@Borlays 😂😂

  • @mfpears
    @mfpears Před 4 lety +110

    Seniors also use TypeScript these days. You don't need to do all the monotonous manual type checking

    • @Datamike
      @Datamike Před 4 lety +12

      I cannot remember the last time I did manual type checking; if the project utilizes TS, great, we can catch a lot of runtime bugs that way but if not we still don't go around manually checking each argument value for everything it is not allowed to be. That just creates bloatware.

    • @AndreBradshaw
      @AndreBradshaw Před 3 lety

      I am not understanding why type checking is even necessary here. We should be able to rely on the less_than condition to perform the type coercion if the user passes in a string number, and it will return false if the user passes in a nullish value.

    • @Luxalpa
      @Luxalpa Před 3 lety

      Even if you don't use typescript, you can still use doc comments for typechecking (using the typescript compiler on any IDE, but it doesn't require your code to actually be typescript code).

    • @andrejnovak
      @andrejnovak Před 3 lety

      TypeScript compiles really shitty non performance code, really do not like it

    • @sverri5901
      @sverri5901 Před 3 lety +2

      Ahhh... there is no guarantee that the values that trickle through the code at runtime are what the TS type annotations say they are. You can easily end up with lots of bugs if you don't do any type checking.
      Calculation can go bad and result in numbers being NaN or Infinite; DOM input values, when parsed/validated, can end up as the wrong type (null, undefined, invalid Date objects, etc.); data from APIs and databases can change without your knowledge or may contain invalid data, causing values to be some completely different type; and so on.
      It doesn't mean that types are useless, not at all. You just need to know when explicit type checking is necessary and to be very strict about outside data, that you have little or no control over, always being properly validated, parsed and typed (e.g. using a helper function, like "const dateOfBirth = getDateFromString(unknownValue);").

  • @josephnc6814
    @josephnc6814 Před 3 lety

    Just a few from me:
    - Document (state the allowed argument type and return type, for other languages you can data type) at the beginning of the function/method and comment less in the block.
    - Indentation is key, space out and line out.
    - Middleware: Quick exit or safe guard blocks at the beginning when needed.
    - Less depth of code blocks (one to two way deep is okay).
    - One line - No braces for blocks: if the code block is less than 50 chars or less than your ruler, use one line.
    - Ternary operator.
    - I use concise variable,function/method names.
    - Less return keywords.
    - Less code size: The less block of code, the better.

  • @JohnDoe-fv5cu
    @JohnDoe-fv5cu Před 2 lety

    That's the very moment when a lot of us remember ourself at the beginning :D That's how every programmer transforms with experience. I myself am writing these long informative names not only for others who might read my code later but for myself too

  • @80Vikram
    @80Vikram Před 4 lety +22

    From my 16 years of IT experience; I can say even senior or super senior also end up writing spaghetti code most of the times.
    For me writing code is like preparing omlette or lemon tea, everyone is proud of their own recipe and sometimes ego clash.
    What's your take on this ? In case of arguments how to come to conclusion if it's good , bad or ugly code ?

    • @A_Lesser_Man
      @A_Lesser_Man Před 4 lety +1

      answer: don't try to assess the code that way. does the code work, yes or no.

    • @the8flo1
      @the8flo1 Před 4 lety +6

      @@A_Lesser_Man Does your code work? Yes!
      One year later: Can you change a few things? Sure! _looks at code_ Oh f***.
      I have been there.

    • @mrcrbgaming2412
      @mrcrbgaming2412 Před 4 lety +2

      @@the8flo1 lol i have too, its hell.

    • @enjay86
      @enjay86 Před 4 lety +3

      @@A_Lesser_Man
      That's a very stupid (sorry) answer.
      The worst programmers are those who doesn't want their code to be better and cleaner. They just smash something, yes, fast, it's working. But you can't do anything else with it later. Poor guy who will need to make any changes in the future :)

    • @A_Lesser_Man
      @A_Lesser_Man Před 4 lety

      @@enjay86 although I agree code should be readable, no matter how much better it is it can never be perfect. Get it working. Clean it up. Refine over time

  • @nerminskenderovic5706
    @nerminskenderovic5706 Před 3 lety +5

    In the first example you could've made it even simpler with a ternary operator:
    return number < 0 ? `(${Math.abs(number)})` : number.toString()

    • @tontonsan3534
      @tontonsan3534 Před 3 lety

      even further:
      return number != null && number < 0 ? `(${Math.abs(number)})` : `${number}`;

  • @coliwong6018
    @coliwong6018 Před 4 lety

    Thanks mate. Inputs and outputs definitely are in high priority.

  • @Uthael_Kileanea
    @Uthael_Kileanea Před rokem

    The variable manipulation, pro part of the video reminds me of the video "Fast Inverse Square Root - A Quake III Algorithm".
    At the first look, the code is not intuitive at all, but it somehow makes a lot of sense.
    Noob programmer here. The best thing I learned from this video is to write a bunch of console.logs at the end instead of running the thing every time for each case. Thank you very much.

  • @mario141230
    @mario141230 Před 4 lety +10

    Then there is the grand master level, that is basically the same as noob but with good names and all the checking needed. With this the poor junior fella that wins the terrific opportunity to maintain it will not call you every 5 minutes to ask you how that line works, for every line of course...

    • @viktorsarge6285
      @viktorsarge6285 Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah. I usually prefer to write "dumb" code because anyone can read it. No ternary operators for example. While they're great it's also confusing if you are not used to them.
      I kind of feel the same way about the whole stack. By all means, refactor everything into the coolest new frameworks if you need your resume to stay hot. But if not, just go for stable reliable stuff that anyone understands. A regular LAMP setup works great for a whole truckload of use cases :)

  • @reluctantuser6971
    @reluctantuser6971 Před 3 lety +9

    In the first example, you can avoid the function call to absolute since you already know the value is negative. Just negate the value. This would keep the program from making a function call that just replicates your negative check.

  • @thedoctor7151
    @thedoctor7151 Před 3 lety

    Would love to get a general talk on large code concepts like class structures building the universe, instantiations, enumerations, slicing and grouping

  • @_furaibou
    @_furaibou Před 2 lety

    It was nice to mention good code isnt written like that in one go but is the result of several revisions, trial and error, meaning discipline is key to better outputs

  • @Democracyphobia
    @Democracyphobia Před 4 lety +9

    my issue is that i always just try to get things work first and only after im done with the whole thing then i go back and clean up everything . but sometimes i get lazy and even end up with unused code lines lol a total mess .

    • @dontbetoxic4387
      @dontbetoxic4387 Před 3 lety

      That’s me except for the fact that I clean up the code after

  • @milosmrdovic7233
    @milosmrdovic7233 Před 4 lety +13

    A little code review of the 'pro' version at 6:14 -
    1. A 'pro' would simplify function name to accountingFormat() or just format() if the module name has the word 'accounting' in it (which it should). No need to say 'number' because you already have an argument named number. There is also very little value in suffixing function names with return types so that can be omitted as well.
    2. A 'pro' should use semicolons at the end of each statement. Consistency and clearly communicating intent is more important than omitting a single character.
    3. A 'pro' should avoid returning null or undefined if at all possible. Returning null or undefined usually forces the calling code to do an immediate null/undefined check on the returned value.
    4. A 'pro' would either use null object pattern with a meaningful string value or throw an exception.

    • @foxyl0l
      @foxyl0l Před 4 lety +1

      2. A 'pro' should use semicolons at the end of each statement. :surprisedPikachu:

    • @milosmrdovic7233
      @milosmrdovic7233 Před 4 lety +4

      @@foxyl0l A 'pro' knows that consistent usage of semicolons in JS is considered best practice. Not only that, but a 'pro' actually understands the importance of semicolons in JS. Even though one can get away with not using them, they provides significant benefits:
      - Avoiding rare but very hard to detect bugs (with potentially significant consequences).
      - Avoiding issues with minification.
      - Making code more readable by clearly differentiating statements from expressions and other code elements.
      - Better communicating developer's intent.
      - Making code easier to understand for less experienced colleagues (the ones that don't have intimate knowledge of how JS ASI behaves).
      - In consistent usage, a missing semicolon can indicate a potential error.
      All of the above in exchange for just a single extra character per statement.

    • @ChazAllenUK
      @ChazAllenUK Před 3 lety

      A 'pro' would encourage their team to stop bikeshedding about semi-colons and just pick a standard linter, e.g. StandardJS or Prettier.

    • @sekgo1265
      @sekgo1265 Před 2 lety

      ​@@milosmrdovic7233 Agreed to all you said.
      In addition, I think a real pro knows when to weight the benefits of code performance, maintainability, readability and conciseness depending on what it's used for and project time limitations.
      For example not all code has to be super-performing when there's really no real need for it, in which case it's better to sacrifice some performance for something that's easier to maintain, read and more concise.
      On another note, I also see a heavy lack of code comments in his example. It's a misconception no code requires comments as long as it's well written, even if it's super simple a comment is always nice.
      For instance, if the code he wrote threw an error when the number is null or undefined, then that would be nice to know by the consumer of the function without even needing to looking at the code. Adding jsdoc to this function would be ideal here overall, but especially @throws

  • @amygo4u
    @amygo4u Před 3 lety

    Really appreciate your work. Great job!

  • @crashofthemoons
    @crashofthemoons Před rokem

    Great video and great tips. Thank you!

  • @alexcubed4270
    @alexcubed4270 Před 4 lety +43

    This was a very well made video, super useful!

  • @chbrules
    @chbrules Před rokem +7

    You could make that "pro" code better by checking that input value is of a number type instead of just a null value. Secondly, you can use a ternary operator to condense the last two checks into a simple, single line.

  • @MaxxD17
    @MaxxD17 Před 2 lety

    PLEASE do more of these... SOOO helpful

  • @geneanthony3421
    @geneanthony3421 Před 2 lety +1

    Always tell people programming is really about controlling complexity (otherwise your code is hard to follow, maintain and scale). There's so many cool techniques out there that can make you better. Great book on this topic is Code Complete (Microsoft Press).

  • @TheAdrianusz
    @TheAdrianusz Před 4 lety +23

    My friend who is a PHP developer said that no curly brackets for single expression(guard clause) syntax is very unreadable for him. Can someone confirm it is the best practice?

    • @bakk.
      @bakk. Před 4 lety +8

      It's fairly subjective isn't it? A lot of people avoid doing it, because it could be a bit more work to change if you need more lines, but I've also seen a lot of people do it. It's more readable if you're used to it, and in my opinion isn't that bad to modify anyway

    • @TheAdrianusz
      @TheAdrianusz Před 4 lety

      @@bakk. I can see that a code without any indents might be unreadable because someone might be expecting only one scope when in fact there are many. I think there is involved aspect of getting used to it

    • @kammy7222
      @kammy7222 Před 4 lety +2

      It's mostly a preference thing, I know some people prefer the single line syntax for short functions, but I'd say as long as there is consistency across the project then it's fine regardless of what code style is used.

    • @Shadow10011
      @Shadow10011 Před 4 lety +8

      I think that there are two schools of logic here:
      1: Removing the braces encourages short functions and diving your logic into multiple functions.
      2: Keeping the braces makes the code easier to change.
      For instance if an additional option had to be added it is easier to add to that specific if statement rather than in functions called, since there might be multiple callers.
      Just agree on one style in your team and that is the best one.
      Source: Been a programmer for 7 years now.

    • @bakk.
      @bakk. Před 4 lety

      @@Shadow10011 Yes!

  • @BBI-Brandboost
    @BBI-Brandboost Před 4 lety +10

    Our developers make sure the code they write is readable and straightforward to edit.

  • @MaxHeroGamer
    @MaxHeroGamer Před 3 lety +1

    If you have a "sum" function, and the parameters are x and y. It's kinda obvious what the arguments will be. But using strongly typed languages like Typescript and Elm helps a lot.
    When you're working with really abstract things, It's not much of a problem if you're using a language strongly typed or has specs like Elixir or Clojure.

  • @jordanmowry9164
    @jordanmowry9164 Před 3 lety

    Thank you Kyle. Good stuff.

  • @rockerirwin
    @rockerirwin Před 3 lety +3

    using a statically typed language makes everyone an advanced programmer according to your definition

  • @coolmenthol
    @coolmenthol Před 3 lety +6

    legendary mode: ternary with coalescing

  • @aldisavotins2318
    @aldisavotins2318 Před 4 lety

    Really great video. Great explanation about code structure and thinking behind each improvement. Instant subscribe.

  • @z4kx388
    @z4kx388 Před 2 lety

    nothing is more satisfying than a clean code!!

  • @avi12
    @avi12 Před 3 lety +21

    16:14 Some would argue, including some Google employees, that .reduce() not only is able to reduce your code, but often also its readability

    • @fahadus
      @fahadus Před 3 lety

      Yes, those discussions are part of the pro mode 😄

    • @iforgot669
      @iforgot669 Před 3 lety +2

      I would argue, that not understanding a concept and not understanding someones thinking are two completely different things. What I mean by that, is that if you are having trouble reading a fundamental aspect of the language, then that may be your own fault. If you are having trouble understanding they way somebody used it however, that's probably on them.

    • @scheimong
      @scheimong Před 3 lety +1

      I personally prefer reduce() because it encourages early declaration of intentions. Something like this:
      const weighedAvg = arr.reduce((acc, cv) => acc + cv.val * cv.weight, 0) / arr.length;
      You know instantly what the code is trying to achieve without necessarily needing to read the implementation.
      I guess the problem is when people try to fit too many things into one reduce(), then it can surely cause readability issues. Therefore I always (try to) keep my reduce() statements short and sweet, and make sure that it does one thing only.

    • @alet3348
      @alet3348 Před 3 lety +1

      @@scheimong Why are you all using "reduce" function to actually increase the values. That's oxymoron. This is the main reason why one should never use such things. Especially if there will be another noob who will have to take over the project and will try to read. He will spend countless hours reading up on all these functions just to find out, that this all could have been done in a much easier, cleaner and clearer way.

    • @scheimong
      @scheimong Před 3 lety +4

      @@alet3348 reduce, also known as fold in other languages, is a *VERY* common operation on array/list/vector. Any self-respecting person who calls themselves a developer should know this by heart. If not, they should not be taking over any project.
      What, just because noobs can't understand something means I have to code stupidly? Get real here.

  • @basimal-jawahery5688
    @basimal-jawahery5688 Před 3 lety +3

    Thank you for sharing your ideas, I'd love to see more such videos :) I prefer such notation:
    return number < 0
    ? `(${Math.abs(number)})`
    : number.toString()

  • @Shmeeps_phd
    @Shmeeps_phd Před 4 lety +1

    Your videos have been a massive help to me as someone newly diving into the world of coding. Thank you for putting the time and effort into putting these out, they are already filling up my favorites list to use as resources when I'm refactoring my code.
    but being the pedantic asshat that I am, I have to tell you that there's no "K" in "especially". haha

  • @jurikonradi8941
    @jurikonradi8941 Před 3 lety

    Brilliant advice! Thanx!

  • @ssfinca
    @ssfinca Před 4 lety +18

    The "pro" version you introduced at 6:15 - Would a "pro" actually put the return statements on the same line as the if() clauses? I don't think so. I think what you have there is actually a stage between noob and pro where the developer thinks they're good enough to do away with formatting rules because they can read it just fine. Later they realize that those formatting rules are really for the folks that come after them.

    • @Rhidayah
      @Rhidayah Před 4 lety +2

      I don't know why, I start code with the "pro" one for the first time. But now, I think my code just like "amature" programer. Just because you are overuse if() clause. And don't know when is the right time to use the "else" statement. If posible, I just write code into one single line.

    • @Datamike
      @Datamike Před 4 lety +1

      @@Rhidayah It is almost never necessary to use an else clause. It must be years since I've written one, because they are just so unnecessary, most of the time. And yes, the function here should've been one single line. This is not pro code; it just tries to pass itself as such.

    • @lucas.campora
      @lucas.campora Před 4 lety

      And how could be more cleaner ? 🧐

    • @Datamike
      @Datamike Před 4 lety +1

      ​@@lucas.campora Personally my issue is with #1 the double equals operator. This is simply a no-no; If you're not using the triple equals operator, you're doing it wrong. Guaranteed this would be flagged in a peer review.
      #2 Why are you type checking anyway? If the type concerns you, use TypeScript. Otherwise, passing the wrong type is a user error. If you absolutely have to type check, throw an error. Returning nothing is not helpful and causes side-effects.
      #3 Removing brackets from your conditional doesn't make it "better." The brackets are there to partition the code, to provide readability.
      Here are examples of how I would've done it --> www.paste.org/105678

    • @A_Lesser_Man
      @A_Lesser_Man Před 4 lety

      usually those types of statements are at the top of a function, and are the "guard clauses" he spoke of.
      i write my functions to have a "let rv = false" at the top, and modify rv, then return rv at the end of the function. one return statement, essentially. rarely do i use guard clauses, even. i tend to use the nested if statements. if you use a decent editor, you can collapse code blocks, making it far easier to read code, and debug. i find advanced code, although pretty, difficult to read - at least it takes me longer to decypher it. shrugs.

  • @zZsolidZz
    @zZsolidZz Před 3 lety +8

    Everyone who is programming professionally: "use proper names for functions and variables"
    Meanwhile what university courses use: function, func, x, y, z, a, b, c for pretty much everything

    • @travisquigg2450
      @travisquigg2450 Před 3 lety

      Ilja Knis God the pain of trying to understand professors random variables.

  • @rakesh1594
    @rakesh1594 Před 2 lety

    Anyone noticed there are adds on this channel. Glad to see and thanks Kyle.

  • @mandapanda898
    @mandapanda898 Před 2 lety

    These noob vs. pro videos are the best! Please make more!

  • @simonjgriffiths
    @simonjgriffiths Před 2 lety +7

    I really dislike having multiple exit points from a function. It leads to return type discrepancies and it’s often easy to miss that an early return statement has been triggered when debugging.

    • @pinatacolada7986
      @pinatacolada7986 Před 11 měsíci

      Yes, and he doesn't need to write "number" in the function name when the parameter is called "number". I have fixed this...
      const accountingStyle = num => {
      if (!isNaN(num)) {
      return num < 0 ? `(${Math.abs(num)})` : num.toString()
      }
      }