Don't Throw Away Your Old Roof!
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- čas přidán 14. 04. 2022
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Don’t know what CZcams channels you’re used to, but Scott and Gaston working on a roof together is all you’ll ever need 😂
“I’ve hired the best builder in Nelson.” I think that says enough.
Don't paint the wood! The amount of light increase would be negligible. The contrast with the white underlayment and the raw timbers is more aesthetically pleasing with the clean sharp lines. Plus you wont have to maintain the wood if you don't paint it and you can do other things than priming and painting :D
I agree, on camera they look quite nice, save your money and time for something else!
Also agree. For those that do not have good timber rather than pine... I see them like a treasure. Please do not paint them 😭
Add my vote, love the look!
Paint it bro. All these dudes are kooks.
Plus you wont be putting more plastic on our environment 😁
No need to paint those timbers white, just add more lights 😎
Painting the timber white is a big job. The juice ain’t worth the squeeze. It looks fine just left natural.
A full whiteout ceiling will look too clinical and lack depth on video IMO
Hey just a tip laying underlay...start at a gable end and roll from left to right or vice versa. First roll starting at fascia and overlap second and third course until you get to ridge. Any water that might get in or condensation will find it's way to the gutters. Laying the way you have chances are water can roll down in-between the joins. When you removed old underlay see how it was laid. You could tape your joins but best option is to just over lay the paper by 3-4 inches. Hope that helps...ex NZ roofer, cheers.
Horizontal was the way I was taught. I was curious as to why he laid it vertically, didn’t know if it was just a NZ thing. Cheers from the US
@@alexjohnson3774 I figure since its easier to handle virtical pieces and it garuntees dryness if it rains during the tear off process. Especially if you're ripping off a long run.
Tile roofs the underlay is for waterproofing as they leak often, always laid horizontal.
yeah I thought that ... I'm a carpenter not a roofer (uk) but that was my initial thought. lay horizontal
@@alexjohnson3774 NZ Building Code Acceptable Solution says roof pitches under 10° have to be horizontal (NZBC E2/AS1 8.1.5). and his roof looks about 10°. Acceptable solutions are kind of like default details and specifications, basic building design that has been tested and will be automatically accepted by govt agencies. But NZ building codes allow different solutions to this if they are independently tested. The underlay he used has been certified to be installed vertically between 3°-10° if it has additional support like the wire mesh, if he had done it horizontally he wouldn't have required the mesh.
My guess is he did it vert because of the purlins, easier to span perpendicular, they may even be spaced to far apart to allow for 1350 wide underlay to span. If that is the case I would be adding a new purlin to halve the spans because the metal roofing cant really span that far in NZ winds anyway.
Personally I would always insist for it to be horizontal unless there is some exceptional reason for it not to be, I have never seen that reason yet.
Steve Ramsey - is one of the first woodworkers I ever started watching on youtube. Noice.
I like seeing that he is repairing and reusing his old roof instead of totally replacing it not much Construction CZcams channels do that I feel like more of them should cuz some people don't have the money to get a new roof or anything new
Absolutely
I'm sure more work was done then shown, but i do love that only two nails were removed and then bang smoko. It feels like a real Australian thing to do, guess our cousin's across the pond ain't so different.
Give Scott a slice of that cheese, he did say please! 😂😂😂
Hello from the USA, South Florida, YES Scott, I think you should paint the rafters white, it will make everything big , bright, and clean looking, love your channel, your lovely wife, and your beautiful country
Hey Scott. Another great video. Run your underlay end to end. Long ways. From the spouting working up to the ridge. With a good overlap. Any leaks in the future will just run straight off. Rust prep and prime and paint. That garage will come up sweet. Cheers 🍻
That’s what I was thinking too. That’s a first for me. With all the rain he gets .
Yup, I learnt this one the hard way from an inspector!
I've always been told not to use staples as they rust out quickly, but not sure of this is really true.
Paper is always run this way.... he did it correctly as per the manufacturers specifications.
@@tubestick00 I’m along way from there. So that may very well be true. Lol haven’t seen it in the states.
@@rodpotts2666 I'm pretty sure it's done that way here in NZ too - you can see the original paper he removes was run in that manner. I know my garage does too, for what it's worth. To quote BRANZ:
BRANZ recommends that underlay be laid horizontally. However, it may be
laid vertically where roof pitches are 8° or greater. Horizontal
underlay must be laid from the bottom up, so the upper layers overlap
the lower layers.
This is a good book. Does provide a step by step introduction to how to build things czcams.com/users/postUgkxhgbP-6hUnXu_QRaoHgLztgsI0YF3HqR0 , also does offer some steps. Includes pictures to give you ideas for layouts and such. If you are looking for a guide, this is not exactly what you want. But if you are trying to familiarize yourself with the way that pole barn building and other out buildings, are made, then this will work just as you need it to. A few things in this book are a barn (of course), detached garage, storage building, and coops.
Yes please. Paint as much of that inside garage white to make it brighter. Thanks.
Yes. I think you should paint the timber. Every bit of light reflectivity will help combat the darkness of the space. Will also hopefully improve its moisture resistance.
Definitely paint the roof framing. Having converted a dim dark literally a cave of a garage-with-a-leanto myself to a bright workshop. Mind you I also installed 3 opaque plastic roof panels on the more shaded side of the roof to avoid direct sunlight coming in as well.
But they look so good when contrasty. White on white will be dull af. For treating purposes painting might make sense but looks wise dark looks classy 👍
+1
when doing underlay on a roof it is the best way to lay it sideways so the overlap like that because of water. Less chance for water to get in the if it finds its way. I work at as a carpenter in Norway and i love your videos. Much love
Interesting, in the us we would never but maybe you have bigger rolls, ours are usually only 3 foot ( most of our materials break at 4 or 8 foot though)
Swede here, we do it sideways to and overlap seams. Starting at the bottom to make water runoff safer.
@@davidjonsson4190 same in the uk
I thought that. The underlay keeps out moisture, hence it gets laid the other way. He must know what he’s doing though!
Roofs over 8 deg can go either way. Norway has to worry about snow and ice. What is applicable for one country or climate can differ wildly for another. Vapour barriers is a classic example. Wiser to watch and learn rather than assume your way is the best and only way.
Love your channel Scott. A suggested way to pull roofing nails out of corrugated iron is to put an old broom handle along the valley and lever against it. Particularly useful if nails have twisted shanks. Keep up your great work
Scott is such a fabulous creator. The cinematography, editing, and story telling is top notch.👍
Nice video scott.
you can use a dowel cut of from a broom handle, this will help avoiding damaging your roof and you can use a claw hammer to pull the nails out.
Metal roof guy here. 2 noticeable shortcomings. 1 No bead mastic or caulk on the lap seams. We always turn the sheets upside down to caulk the “high” of the sheets. 2. No closures at the eave and no closures between the ridge cap and the apex end of the sheets. Love the Scott and Gaston show.
Closures as in that corrugated foam stuff? can these closures be put in at a later date? Asking cos I gotta do the same to the old ladys garage.
@@Tee.NZ.07 You can but is a PITA. The thinnest part is about 5/16”. So you gotta pry and stuff it under. If it is wood use Woodgrip screws with rubber washer
@@weldingman57 expanding foam?
@@JohnnyMotel99 Expando foam is loved by the little birdies. I’ve seen them tear out ridgid board insulation and vinyl faced yellow inso. Any little hole is a potential bird house. I’d use some kind of tight weave hardware cloth fitted to all the tiny openings. I’ve seen them nest in gutter downspouts. Might even go as far as fabbing up something resembling an exhaust flap for the bottom
@@weldingman57 sounds like you have birdies going eco😂
Great job as usual, I’ve enjoyed your Channel for many years keep up the good work👍
glad you are on Steve's podcast, I asked for you a few times and glad he decided to talk to you! love the channel :)
Great video and method for improving your roof! Always enjoy seeing Jess and Gaston in your videos! Good people!
Another great episode, I'll definitely catch the podcast as I subscribe to Steve's channel and did his beginner woodworking workshop. He has also come a long way even in the time I've been watching his channel.
This is perfect timing ! Just about to pull all the nails and replace with screws thanks for all the tips !!
Thanks for the heads up on the podcast - a double dose of Scott Brown this weekend - bonus! Happy Easter to you and Jess 🐣🐣
I love this channel. Its my version of a sitcom, look forward to all the characters and episodes.
Hey Scott, thank you so much for the time and effort you put into these videos. I gave up my remodeling biz in the US a year and a half ago to move overseas with my family. My kids (5 of them) and I have been following you for quite a while now, and there are definitely times I feel like I'm living vicariously through you as we travel N. Africa. Keep up the good work!
Nice work. I need to do the same on my shed, needs all new iron as well.
5000 premature deaths each year caused by exhausts from cars, trucks and buses across the UK
Time to show Scott some abandoned equipment in the jungle.
The cross over we need
@@ecowavepowerelectricityfro128 you ok bud? #loud pipes save lifes
Hey it's Marty! yeah don't we all. I console myself that it doesn't rain much in Canterbury and it only leaks if coming from a particular direction
It certainly looks better Scott.Thanks for the latest exciting episode.👍👍
Nice job for part 1 of the roof refurb.Like the idea of the mesh to stop birds nesting underneath the roof.Good man Gaston for his help.I am quite new to your channel and have been catching up with some of your past epiaodes.Great channel and content scott.Best wishes from the uk m8.
Iv been following Steve since 2011 and so good to hear that convo with him and yourself, you two were speaking like old mates.
Crazy how much he knew about you too.
Steve Ramsey is awesome - glad you got on his podcast!
Love watching your channel! Glad you started with a little trip to Kaikōura. We were there in 2010, with our NZ friend (who lives in the UK), having travelled around 4,000km in a campervan. We're restoring our house from the 1690s. Your videos have helped inspire us & given us confidence to try our hand at DIY. Keep up the hard work.
Keep the beams natural.
The only thing that I find more satisfying than doing reno work on my own place in AKL is watching Scott do reno work on his in sunny Nelson
Absolutely loving your Videos Scott. I have Been following you from from very Early on and the projects you work on are very similar to the things that I have worked on in Tassie. Unfortunately I Did Some irreparable Damage to my Back over the years and havent Been able to work for the last 2 Years and will most likely never be able to work full time in Building again. BUT Being able to watch your videos each week has been amazing you make the audience feel apart of the project. Love your work. Keep it up Mate!!
Some of the turns of phrase and words that Gaston uses I have never heard anywhere else. I love your channel it is informative, funny, and helpful. Also since I am too old to do much more than warm a chair these days you remind me of my younger stronger days. Cheers from Canada. ~ulrich
Scott the podcast with Steve was really entertaining. Great episode again all the best with the roof. I'd definitely paint the timber if you are putting do much work into the roof!
Great vid Scott and team. Now highly motivated to do same on my shed which is very similar and it doesnt look too hard! I plan to ply the underside of the perlins later on and put some down lights recessed in
Been waiting for the Steve Ramsey interview. Very excited.
Looks great! Thanks for the video. Watching here in your sister city, Nelson, BC, Canada!!
good timing I have the exact same problem in my 1960s garage
Great to see Gaston, well done guys, nice job!
I love Steve Ramsey, will go listen to both of you now...
Great job. Agree with your approach--I always use netting for underlay, even self-supporting.
Excellent segment. Great to see Gaston Was able to assist you Scott. The white underlay will lighten the garage too! Look forward to seeing more SBC!😎
I enjoy Steve from WWMM and love watching Scott Brown Carpentry so having both of you in a podcast is awesome. Great seeing Gaston again. Started buying from Piranha Tools after seeing him first time on Scott Brown Carpentry some years back now :-)
Another excellent episode. Thanks!
Good to see the Packout wheels getting a showing. Use tham all the time here in Amsterdam. Get yourself some of the open crates they have too. Great for tidying up on site when your short of time. Loving your videos mate.
Hi,I do like your posts and look forward to the next one. Informative,interesting and fun.
Also Nelson is one of the nicest places in NZ to be 😊😎
Nice one as always. I’m in the paint it all white, will make it easier to light come winter.
I always enjoy your videos! Greetings from Belgium.
Looking good Scott, just a litttle tip roofing paper/ felt should be laid length ways from gable to gable the yellow lines top and bottom of the paper show the over lap of each length
Steve Ramsey!!! Nice one Scott 👍🏼👍🏼
Scott Brown and Steve Ramsay together. Sweet! My two favourites.
Like seeing Gaston and You Scott, as really makes for great vid, b/c both of you are just so great!
Also, yeppers….know Steve and enjoy h8m and his channels as well.
Already listened to podcast and again, enjoyed it; as who doesn’t like some stories😉
Cheers✌🏻
Always a nice relaxing watch … cheers
Listened to the whole podcast Scott. Found it quite entertaining.
This brings back memories of watching scott and paerau working. Guess we've entered a new era! The era of Scotty and Gaston, loving it.
In Hawaii we use corrugated roof on almost everything. We never put an underlay under it. When newer houses had plywood sheathing below the roofing, then asphalt saturated felt came into use.
I like it when Gaston shows up. Like you, a very sympathetic guy.
Yep. Caught the podcast episode the other day. Good convo. Go for it with painting the timber. You’ll need a good stain/sap blocking undercoat. Will definitely help brighten the space.
Going to the podcast now.
Steve is a great dude from my home state.
Happy Easter, have a great long weekend 🤙
Yes, paint it white!! Great vids can’t wait to get some SBC merch
Nice. We always run the underlay horizontally starting at the bottom and working up.
Hey Scott, I’m painter by trade, and if you are going to paint the beams, I would use a stain blocker for the old Oregon timber dues to its high tenons which will bleed though, unless you like the look of the antique effect. I enjoy the authenticity of your videos. Best of luck with you house Reno’s
Tenons are half a timber joint; tannins are compounds that bleed through painted timber.
Zinsser Cover Stain 👍
Thanks for the tip!
Zinsser BIN (shellac based) has worked best for me.
@@knotes76 Kurt knows what's up, I live in a 100 year old house a Zinsser BIN gets it done super well, the stuff is magic. A little different to work with if you've never used Shellac, but works super well.
Great episode as always … .. listen to Steve’s podcast and also watched him on CZcams … great chat on podcast ..
Great video and inspirational as ever Scott!!
Hello Scott, WRT pulling the nails, you can use an old style crowbar with the thinner claw and a short piece of 1/2inch pipe laid in the gully of the iron. The weight then goes onto the purlin, and not the iron. I have even welded a piece of pipe onto a crowbar to make the job easier. Lead-head nails! They have real value at the scrappy, but also older keen fishermen will melt the lead to make sinkers but cutting a mould in the lawn. I remember doing that as a child. Underlay? As others have said, and I realise it isn't the 'modern way' and it is more difficult to lay the underlay crossways, but it is still the best way to do it.
Looking good. It would be also good to see how the paid work is going in the new location Nelson. All these building projects even things like wire are not cheap i bought some the other day and it had gone up about 20%. . Just painted some of my house roof today and treated some minor rust, it's a job I have put off for years but I feel better now once you tackle it..
The new underlay looks very sharp 😁👍👍👍
Perfect timing. I was wondering what to do with my garage roof as it has a couple small minor leaks but don't want to replace the whole iron roof.
Yea man definitely paint all the timber white. It will freshen that whole space up a lot!
Keep up the great work 👍
Thanks for the link. I have to check out the podcast.
Love these videos Scott. Keep up the great work!
nice job Scott glad you decided to pull out the board and hammer for more leverage . makes nail pull out a lot faster
That's pretty cool you talked to Steve I'm definitely going to listen to that. I'm up in the Wairarapa and own a 1950s ex state house style home aswell, very solid but the one thing really bugging me is the old tiled roof. As a builder do you recommend getting those replaced for a metal one, I feel like it could be worth the money.
Hi Scott, the metal shavings are called swarf. A great reference manual for metal roofs is the metal roofing and wall cladding code of practice by the metal roofing manufacturers Nz. As an architectural technician has answered many of the design problems I’ve encountered. Thanks for the building tips and entertainment. Much love
Gaston loves when he gets to use his tool belt and tools. My man most likely has a tool for every task LOL. Keep up the great work boys!!!
Flaunting a new ‘mainstream’ toolbox right in front of Gaston.
That’s cold, man. Real cold.
Another great video from half way around the world
Watching Gaston use the tools and work warms my heart
Thank you Scott.
Always thought you would be an awesome guest on Steve's show. I was speaking to a builder recently and saw his draw setup in the back of his van. I asked where he got the idea/inspiration from and he mentioned your videos you had done. This is in country NSW, Australia by the way :D
Happy to see the video, but a little worried about your sleep habits posting at 05:00 on a holiday weekend…. Thanks for the great content!
Banging good episode,and that’s it dude!
Driving rain and wind will also be getting in at your ridge and eves details get yourself some foam filler block for both should help alot in Ireland cladding for sheds comes with a fleece back glued on it to stop this problem love the videos and loving the new house revamp
It seems to have some lead flashing which should do the same thing...
Keep the timber look, i left my garage like that and love it.
Happy Easter, Scott Brown Carpentry from Sydney Australia.
The rust converter for the roof is an excellent way to increase its service lifetime: as for priming and painting timber.
I was watching the sheet stacking up on the rooftop. Ensure they go back in same location.
I'd like to know the temperature ranges for your location; autumn winter and summer and spring.
Thermal conductivity of buildings and all important soil temperatures for seeding!!!
Hope your worms are happy!
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Excellent job, as always
looks great, dont be afraid to give that underlay a good stretch, it should give quite easily and provide a tidy look from beneath
Good episode. Great to have a mate like Gaston help. Paint timber white
Scott, I’m always watching you make coffee in the same Chemex drip coffee maker. Try the FSU-100 filters, they look brown as they are unbleached. Just trying to keep you healthy so you can keep making the great vids for years to come.
Cheers from Canada!
Jason
Podcast was great ! Well done!
Pulled our garage down to make way for our house this time last year. I gifted it to someone so it didn’t end up in landfill. The nails holding on the roofing iron were 90mm long with spiral grooves in them. Had to cut them off because pulling them out caused too much damage to framing and the iron.
We just did this to our 2000 square Meter warehouse (Or at least had it done) with new iron though. So much better for light in the work spaces.
Scot didn't know you were a Hearts fan! But I'll let it slide because I enjoy your videos and nobody's perfect 😉😉🛹 wish you and your good lady all the best fea sunny Scotland...
It's good to have a friend like gaston to come and help.
I LOVED the steve ramsey podcast!!!!!!
We need one with ALL the guys in it working together. That would be a hoot!