Cy Twombly Fifty Days at Iliam

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  • čas přidán 21. 11. 2019
  • An exploration of Cy Twombly's Fifty Days at Iliam, in the Philadelphia Museum of Art, showing how the images relate to Homer's Iliad. Scroll down for links to the individual images.
    For my other videos about the Philadelphia Museum of Art subscribe to my channel or visit this site:
    johnimmerwahr.org/projects/
    Overview of the entire installation
    www.philamuseum.org/collectio...
    Shield of Achilles
    www.philamuseum.org/collectio...
    Heroes of the Achaeans
    www.philamuseum.org/collectio...
    Vengeance
    www.philamuseum.org/collectio...
    Achaeans in Battle
    www.philamuseum.org/collectio...
    Fire that Consumes
    www.philamuseum.org/collectio...
    Shades of Achilles, Patroclus and Hector
    www.philamuseum.org/collectio...
    House of Priam
    www.philamuseum.org/collectio...
    Ilians in Battle
    www.philamuseum.org/collectio...
    Shades of Eternal Night
    www.philamuseum.org/collectio...
    Heroes of the Ilians
    www.philamuseum.org/collectio...

Komentáře • 89

  • @audreyescoll2445
    @audreyescoll2445 Před 4 lety +14

    Thank you John for presenting this dramatic and enlightening video of Twombly"s expressive artistic vision.

  • @madelineullom1419
    @madelineullom1419 Před 4 lety +39

    This video addresses the challenge of understanding Twombly’s abstract art by bringing meaning to the blurred and frenetic mark making. Narration and music blend to bring understanding of sequential scenes of aggression, violence, death and emptiness. A powerful interpretation!

  • @bigblackbox2588
    @bigblackbox2588 Před 4 lety +4

    Really refreshing to watch, helps us to realise certain motifs in Twombly’s work but ultimately gets us enthralled in the narrative of these paintings

  • @debraduckman7877
    @debraduckman7877 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you so much..... I am going to see these on Saturday and you have given me a good background and my excitement has grown greatly to stand in front of these

  • @bobweaver6609
    @bobweaver6609 Před 4 lety +1

    A fine video, John. It all comes together beautifully.

  • @everettziegenfuss5812
    @everettziegenfuss5812 Před 4 lety +6

    Just added so much more meaning and power to my favorite body of work at this point in my life, thank you. I wish I found this sooner.

  • @patriciadanzon6775
    @patriciadanzon6775 Před 4 lety +3

    An enlightening and moving interpretation of Cy Twombly's art and the Trojan war. Thank you, John and team!

  • @carolhauptfuhrer2866
    @carolhauptfuhrer2866 Před 4 lety +1

    Really great, John. Your film is a wonderful resource forall of us guides! Bravo!

  • @lalaoneil2813
    @lalaoneil2813 Před 3 lety

    Thank you for making this video. I have gone to see this exhibit at least five times. I could not understand why I found it so compelling. Thank you.

  • @robertdufour2456
    @robertdufour2456 Před rokem

    Thank You for this magnificent presentation! You have given me much to think about.

  • @jillfeldman9655
    @jillfeldman9655 Před 4 lety +8

    Wow. This is so interesting. I strongly recommend it if you are interested in contemporary art.

  • @shirleybrown593
    @shirleybrown593 Před 4 lety +1

    Bravo! Well done!

  • @shiva4ever
    @shiva4ever Před 3 lety

    Truly a most wonderful video.
    Thank you so so much, it was a very valuable learning experience 🙏

  • @ernestolombardo5811
    @ernestolombardo5811 Před 3 lety +8

    "Ancient things are new things." - every piece is brand new for each set of eyeballs in front of it for the first time, no matter how ancient the piece may be. It is new over and over again, day after day after day for decades, or centuries. Or millennia. The way one responds to it is an independent, parallel matter.

  • @bessielee9595
    @bessielee9595 Před 8 měsíci

    thank you for the great storytelling... I saw the exhibit in Paris- so amazing...

  • @s2cardinal
    @s2cardinal Před 3 lety

    Fantastic!

  • @lurker4269
    @lurker4269 Před 4 lety

    Well done. It clarifies the thread connecting the images.

  • @merlehweismer
    @merlehweismer Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you for a very comprehensive description. What is next?

  • @darylcumming7119
    @darylcumming7119 Před 3 lety +1

    Many thanks.

  • @gogogaga3974
    @gogogaga3974 Před 4 lety +2

    Incredible

  • @zhe6249
    @zhe6249 Před 2 lety

    This video is insanely good.

  • @Evilsinder
    @Evilsinder Před 3 lety

    wish to have more of these kind of video , with narration and music and especially this narrator

  • @borismakesart
    @borismakesart Před 3 lety +1

    Nice!!

  • @missybeegood5359
    @missybeegood5359 Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you John! I loved your presentation, Interpretation of the man Whose work I adore!

  • @missybeegood5359
    @missybeegood5359 Před 2 lety

    Ernesto, well put!
    That is what makes us human. We all see things differently.
    I can say I am so thankful for my life gift of delving into the creations with awe of this Genius, Cy Twombly!

  • @darylcumming7119
    @darylcumming7119 Před rokem

    The attempt to question the loss of child innocence and questioning everything. That occurs on the journey to adulthood.

  • @devilsososo
    @devilsososo Před 4 lety

    It’s amazing!! Can I share it to social platforms in China with addressing the source?

    • @johnimmerwahr1194
      @johnimmerwahr1194  Před 4 lety +1

      I don’t understand your question. Maybe send me an email and explain what you need.

  • @HoboSmutt
    @HoboSmutt Před rokem +1

    ❤❤❤❤

  • @Pandoradow
    @Pandoradow Před rokem

    Thank you for the great narration. Personally I think the music is not necessary. it's a little distracting to the efforts getting into the details of the paintings.

  • @marialuizasaboiasaddi2160

    Registro das marcas dos gestos e movimentos. Interferências .Entre acaso e intenção. Prazer, experiência, descoberta e invenção. Liberdade de criação.

  • @missybeegood5359
    @missybeegood5359 Před 2 lety

    Jill, so glad you get it!
    We see Twombly’s world 🌎!

  • @monicanudelman
    @monicanudelman Před rokem

    👏👏👏👏

  • @silvanacuni9661
    @silvanacuni9661 Před 11 měsíci

    I had to write a comment. The reading of these canvases is brilliant. I couldn't have done better myself😅. But I just wanted to ask a question. I always keep in mind my first reading of a painting or in this case, paintings. I thought it was a study of an attack of a man out of control on a vegetable garden. And please allow me to express what I saw in these paintings. The tomatoes seemed to have got the worst blow by the angy carrots.

  • @dorfmanjones
    @dorfmanjones Před 3 lety +1

    It's Illium, not Illiam. Unless you think perhaps Byzantium was actually Byzantiam. Or Brundisium was actually Brundisiam.

    • @islabutler9280
      @islabutler9280 Před rokem

      That’s the name Cy Twomey gave it it’s not an error of the video

  • @BrianJerome
    @BrianJerome Před 3 lety

    would love to debate some interpretations. love and agree with multiple points. your interpretations feels more of someone that went to school for art history because they couldnt actually make art, but knew what i was.

    • @johnimmerwahr1194
      @johnimmerwahr1194  Před 3 lety

      Right. I have no background in making art. My field is humanities.

    • @Bunny-ch2ul
      @Bunny-ch2ul Před 2 lety

      Making art and art history are *very* different disciplines. Most people in art history aren't failed artists. That would be like saying everyone who likes music but doesn't pursue it professionally is a failed musician.
      Art history beyond the "intro to art history" that practically everyone takes is very academically rigorous. If you don't understand all the history and culture around the art, and how they relate you're going to have a very hard time. You have to have a very strong grasp of world history and culture. It's not just putting paintings into chronological order. It's also a very posh field of study. (Both Prince William and Kate Middleton have art history degrees.) If you want to work in the arts in some capacity, a lot of the most lucrative jobs more or less require art history degrees. I have friends who are museum curators, work in auction houses like Sotheby's, write for magazines, etc. who all have art history credentials. It's easily one of the most "useful" degrees in the arts. (And that's without even touching on how helpful it is as a minor, or in conjunction with other degrees.)

  • @gerrylk9
    @gerrylk9 Před 8 měsíci

    Turn down the volume and look. Then it would make sense. Oh, nevermind

  • @MrZabao
    @MrZabao Před rokem

    Hi is eventually abstract or narrative … I like it but somehow not as a story

  • @achbif
    @achbif Před 3 lety

    Interesting.. actually it is difficult to understand or to connect for those who are not aware about the story. Great vedio

  • @bobeveringham4018
    @bobeveringham4018 Před 4 měsíci

    My 5 year old could also do this if I had a 5 year old.

  • @mrspatmore6482
    @mrspatmore6482 Před 3 lety +4

    If I hadn't had this explained to me, I never would've guessed the meaning of the work, if this is it's intended meaning? Can anyone attach their own meaning to it? I might've guessed "there's pools of blood because there's a battle of angry penises?"

  • @Drbob369
    @Drbob369 Před 7 měsíci

    quark gluon plasma images lol

  • @satelliite
    @satelliite Před 3 lety

    its so weird that the person who made this video has to explain who homeros is and what he made lol

  • @1953streeky
    @1953streeky Před 2 lety

    Achilles shield 😆😂😃😄😅😆

  • @xryanv
    @xryanv Před 3 lety +1

    I mean he certainly has his own creative slant going on but I do see it as being a bit overrated, anyone who read the story could jot down something similar with colored pencils or crayons... sure it wouldn't be this exact take which makes it unique but I'm not seeing any particular genius or anything. He has another one that is literally just circular scribbles on a chalk board that sold for 62m $ seems a bit excessive for this level of work.

    • @chezceleste
      @chezceleste Před 3 lety

      You should ask for your money back.

    • @xryanv
      @xryanv Před 3 lety

      @@chezceleste Who said I bought it?

    • @chezceleste
      @chezceleste Před 3 lety +1

      @@xryanv Thank god for that. As you say, "anyone ,,,could jot down something similar with coloured pencils or crayons"...I have yet to see anyone do a credible copy of a Cy Twombly...of course art students all over the world have been inspired by him and tried to copy, but it can't be done. Da Vinci is easy to copy, as are most figurative painters, as we see from the most expensive painting ever sold, Venus Mundi, about which the dispute rages, whether it is original or not and whether it is worth the $500,000,000 paid by MBS or the $45 for which it was sold 20 years ago. I guarantee that you could not do a copy of a Twombly. You wouldn't know where to start...and it would always be a copy...price means nothing and only one person pays for a work of art and the rest of us get it for free. Most artists die young and poor and unknown but still choose to be artists and there is so much amazing original art out there in the world that you can buy for much less...and artists don't want the world to call them geniuses, they just do what they do, pass messages from the Universe and hope to find those for whom those messages are intended. If the message is not for you, you don't need to become angry...just as everything on a menu in a restaurant may not be to your liking or as Chinese writing may be incomprehensible to you, there are others who enjoy or understand these things and the art of dead artists doesn't do you any harm and one day it may save your soul.

    • @xryanv
      @xryanv Před 3 lety

      @@chezceleste I think you mean the Salvator Mundi? I didn't say someone could copy his work, I'm not sure why anyone would even want to. However lot's of people have scribbled on paper and made similar doodles. Or jotted down notes in a sloppy manner from a book they read. As I said there is a certain unique creativity in what he has made ( since he was a human being each of us being unique ) just the style and level of effort are similar to that of a toddler. I think since he studied child hand writing to make one of his untitled works, this was likely what he was going for.

    • @chezceleste
      @chezceleste Před 3 lety +1

      @@xryanv Probably...every artist is unique...and not every artist appeals to everyone...I just love some of Twombly's work...I guess because some of it looks like my own...like some things just recur all over the planet....some of it looks like cave paintings, and I love so much of what is called primitive art, from Neanderthal to Australian aboriginal to a guy who sits on the pavement and draws things in chalk which get washed away and some grafitti and well...art is everywhere...some of it speaks to us and some of it doesn't...I guess it resonates or not with our experience or our dreams and the art market and the prices paid for it mean nothing, but it does bring it to our attention and art is older and more powerful than religion or philosophy...in fact the oldest thing on the planet and you can't appreciate or understand it all, but at least it does you no harm...I think anyone who finds themselves doodling or scribbling things out of their own mind should respect themselves and call themselves artists and not be intimidated by the art market and self appointed experts saying so and so is a genius when we all have the capacity and the desire to create. Nice talking to you anway. Nice to talk about art.

  • @rays7805
    @rays7805 Před 5 měsíci +2

    This video took infinitely more effort to produce than Cy Twombly's aimless scribbles.

  • @samahdi6972
    @samahdi6972 Před 2 lety +4

    I Enjoy Art, I Like to paint, I am in my Studio now, This Twombly is just nonsense and needs a pre existing narrative to make it seem meaningful but it is just Twullshit,

  • @raymanlegy
    @raymanlegy Před 2 lety +4

    Without the explanation the paintings are shit. With the explanation the paintings are still shit. Good explanation though.

  • @user-jv9qz2bu1r
    @user-jv9qz2bu1r Před 3 lety +5

    hahahahaha. - PRETENTIOUS DRIVEL

    • @dasmowilkins
      @dasmowilkins Před rokem

      art is subjective

    • @OttoIncandenza
      @OttoIncandenza Před 6 měsíci

      Nah you’re just jealous some of us can feel more deeply and read books.

  • @floradjan150614
    @floradjan150614 Před 6 měsíci

    rubbish work… i saw it in royal academy gallery show, they are really big canvas, but to me such rubbish work, the mind is an interesting thing, simply madness..

  • @louhawk559
    @louhawk559 Před 3 lety +5

    Glorifying trash on canvass.

    • @missybeegood5359
      @missybeegood5359 Před 3 lety +3

      Your opinion as opposed to the many who know something you don’t !
      Get it???

    • @louhawk559
      @louhawk559 Před 2 lety

      @@missybeegood5359 no I haven't got it. Emphasized YET. Can u elaborate I'm open.

    • @missybeegood5359
      @missybeegood5359 Před 2 lety +1

      Anyone who can’t spell, would call it trash!!!!

    • @missybeegood5359
      @missybeegood5359 Před 2 lety +1

      Kurtis, if you are compassionate, loving ,
      And mindful, you will be rewarded by a soulful gift of understanding what others
      Do not. You will get it!!!

    • @dasmowilkins
      @dasmowilkins Před rokem

      art is subjective

  • @ilsinco
    @ilsinco Před rokem +1

    Warning!! this is for the gullible and/or those who believe this shallow pretentious crap should be considered great art! wise up.

    • @dasmowilkins
      @dasmowilkins Před rokem

      art is subjective and not everyone is into figurative art

    • @ilsinco
      @ilsinco Před rokem

      @@dasmowilkins since they changed the meaning of the word 'art', then anything can be called art - that, in fact, means the word 'art' itself has become redundant. You seem to be an 'anything' lover.

    • @dasmowilkins
      @dasmowilkins Před rokem +1

      @@ilsinco whos they lmao
      art has always been subjective. beauty is in the eye of the beholder. what you're describing has always been the case because anything can be art.

    • @ilsinco
      @ilsinco Před rokem

      @@dasmowilkins do your homework - art was always subjective in whether you like it or not, as in, whether it's to your taste. BUT, what 'art' was, wasn't always subjective. The actual dictionary definition of art changed. Once it was 'a skill or craft (esp one involving chemicals)', then with the ideologies of Kant and Hegel this led to a different perspective on what an 'art' and an 'artist' actually should be. Modernism adopted these philosophies which has led to scribbles, blank canvases and shit in a can all being called great 'art'. People aren't to judge art themselves on merit, but are now told what art is and how good it is. Sorry if I don't allow my opinions to be spoon fed to me by 'experts'.

    • @dasmowilkins
      @dasmowilkins Před rokem

      @@ilsinco words and their definitions are also subjective. i don't care what a dictionary thinks about art.
      ;let me ask you a question g what do you think about trans people?

  • @ApplePie..
    @ApplePie.. Před 3 lety +4

    So over rated. The use of history to describe his art made me laugh. You could come up with any excuse to make even the worst artist look good with a so-called expert analysis. Picasso himself used to laugh at people who bought what he himself acknowledged was his atrociousy subpar work.