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- Musician and musicologist Ulaş Özdemir sat down with me in Istanbul and gave a fascinating account of the history of the Saz, along with some beautiful performances.
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Recorded: Istanbul, June 2018
Hello all! Thanks for watching! Just to be clear, I'm not making ANY claims about the definitive origin of the instrument. Similar instruments are shared between cultures all over the world. The thumbnail says "Turkish" because I went to Turkey to talk to someone about how he himself plays Saz there. Instruments can also be very potent symbols of cultural identity, and all I want to do with this series is see how an individual player interprets their tradition. It's my hope to be able to go to as many different places and hear as many different perspectives on tradition and string playing as I can. Until then, jump in on the discussion, share and hope you enjoy the videos to come :)
I don’t understand that why this channel is so underrated? Why!!!
ME TOO! Haha. Thank you for watching. And please share if you think others would enjoy it. All the best!
title of the video could be better, but content is excellent
I’ve been playing bağlama for nearly 15 years - I’m mostly self-taught because of geography (it’s rather hard to find a teacher in the US) but it’s my first love among musical instruments. You’ve earned a new subscriber today 😊
Thanks for watching Jesse! Yes it's a beautiful instrument! We also talked about another rarer instrument called a Ruzba which I'm going to put out shortly, once I continue my battle with my video software haha.
as someone who’s whole entire religion is based on the saz; alevism, it gives me such joy when others of other backgrounds learn the saz :)
hey Jesse, I think you might like this channel - I play saz and I use it and listen to music a lot - there's beautiful music and also videos that explain how to take care of the bağlama - @BarakSazBaglama
www.youtube.com/@BarakSazBaglama
The Turks have such an interesting culture of language, art, and of course, music. I'm really glad you got to go there and talk about the saz. There's no mistaking the sound of it, and it's beautiful.
It's true! And I only scratched the surface. Ulaş really knows his stuff, I could have talked all day if he let me haha! I did drink a lot of great Turkish coffee as well...
Your comment is most likely well intentioned. But think about it. What culture isn't interesting in art language or music? Everyone has something unique that makes them a separate culture.
theyre culture isn’t authentic. it was influenced by the natives of the lands that they colonized, as well as the culture of the surrounding peoples
saz is not turkisg
@@StopFear That's mostly true, and a good point. For the purpose of not hurting feelings, there are some cultures out there that I think have awful art. With that aside, I think that this "foreign culture effect" is especially strong when something is very different from your own, but with just a touch of familiarity. Absolutely a good point though.
A very intelligent guy, unlike many other who just repeat the same nonsense. I highly appreaciate this video. Thank you.
I am from Turkey and very very thankful for video. I wait for your new videos. I liked you :D
Thanks for watching!
Aaa türk
Hey Emrullah, I think you might want to check my cannel too :)
For those people who may not understand what Ulas Ozdemir says in some points in the video, he is using musical terminology based on do, re, mi, fa, so, la , ti , do instead of A, B, C, D, E, F, G . In many countries of Europe one system is used traditionally but not the other. Besides the notes themselves, there is some other different terminology, but it usually refers to the same concepts.
On top of that, in Turkish traditional music the notes are transposed down a perfect 4th from what is generally recognized internationally, so for example "mi - E" is actually B. This is critical to know when tuning Turkish instruments like the kanun, oud, etc. as most musical literature is written with this system.
I think there is a confusion about notes here, In Turkey and Europe the notes called “A is La, B is Si, C is Do, D is Re, E is Mi, F is Fa, G is Sol” so when he says “mi” it is not “me” :)
This is literally one of the best videos I've ever seen on youtube. Great instrument, great player, great music, great history and perspective, and great interview. Wow.
It is an amazing video I agree... I personally larned from amazing master, maybe you'll like his channel\courses..
www.youtube.com/@BarakSazBaglama
Oh OOOOOH STRINGDOOOM
I love the Baglama Saz and thoroughly enjoyed this!
Those hammer ons at 26:01 just slay me. Beautiful.
Great video!! I've been involved with Turkish folk music for almost 10 years now and since 2013 had been in Turkey often. Ulaş is a fantastic musician. If you liked it I would recommend checking out these artists as well- Erkan Oğur, Okan murat Öztürk and Erdal Erzincan. Turkey has an amazing musical scene that blends tradition with incredible innovation and creativity.. also check out my friend Engin Topuzkanamış (copy paste it) channel- he builds these kinds of instruments and plays them very nicely.
I'm always fascinated by the variety of stringed instruments out there. This one kind of reminds me of the Strumstick or maybe the Seagull Merlin. Obviously this one is much older in design, but there are some similarities. Thanks for showing us the Stringdom!
Yes! I actually tried to find someone to chat to me about the Merlin, but I didn't have enough time when I was in Canada. Maybe I should just buy one, learn it, and interview myself! Thanks for watching Josiah! :)
Great introduction to the Baglama family, thank you! Super interested in one of these instruments, I play guitar but I've never been a big fan of the standard setup.
This man makes such beautiful music too!
Love the content on this channel. Always nice to see a new video pop up.
Thanks for watching Eric!
I’m from Khorasan part of Iran and we use dotar and Tanbur which is similar to baglama. Thank you for the video!
Absolutely brilliant, my friend, great piece of work, if you need more info give us a shout :)
I think you may like this channel - www.youtube.com/@BarakSazBaglama
Thanks for delivering this us!
Thanks for watching! :)
Wonderful instrument . Hope to Make another episode about tambur and bouzuk ❤❤
Such a nice video to show and introduce different cultures. Big thanks for the guy in the video and owner of the channel for introducing our culture. Also I really liked the content of this channel it is just like a bridge between different music styles and cultures.
That was one of my goals in starting this channel, thank you for the kind words, and thanks for watching! :)
Just recently discovered "The Stringdom" channel and I'm loving these videos. So many fascinating stringed instruments and great musicians talking about them :) Keep up the good work !
Thank you for the encouragement, always appreciated :)
Hey Tony, I think you might like this channel too - @BarakSazBaglama. there's a lot of great videos threre
www.youtube.com/@BarakSazBaglama
@@Avigail_Shaked Thanks Avigail. I'll check that out.
Amazing Video as always, it was great to see a video about the Saz as I was literally just checking one out online yesterday, any chance of doing a showcase on the Kazakh Dombra?
I'd love to! There are some fascinating instruments in central Asia. Particularly Georgia, Kazakhstan and Mongolia are on my list. When I get the time, and money!
Please do more videos!
I've got about 5 more sitting on my hard drive, so stay tuned! They're coming!!
This guy's performance is amazing!
The Saz is such an underestimated instrument today, too bad there isn't really a rock-ish or metal type revival music movement like there is in Celtic or Nordic music where they use Hurdy gurdies, Lutes and harps and such to create new ways these instruments are used..... but for Turkish or Middle Eastern music.
That way the Saz could find it's way back to the popularity it deserves, maybe the Oud could come along for the ride..
Amazing episode and channel! Juts come across because I’m about to get my first baglama. Does anybody here knows how to play and could advice me about types to start with?
Great video. Hoping for you more subscribers in the future.
Very cool and very detail! 👏🏻
Maybe you can review about Sape and Sasando someday. 😊
Was the last baglama a long neck it short neck ?
I didn't realise that the 'ğ' in bağlama was so soft, I was pronouncing it as IPA ʁ
I loved the bit around 23:00-24:00, it got me thinking about capos and how mindbending it would be for folk musicians and newcomers to start on a new fundamental on these instruments. In modern equal temperament it would just amount to modes, but for traditional tunings we'd be getting some pretty intriguing sounds!
Also, I'm surprised you didn't ask about the percussive element on some beats. Sometimes it sounds like the nail (probably middle finger), sometimes the pad (probably the thumb on the upper edge of the instrument top)
I think you have a wonderful ear for music and I love that you ask questions based on nuances that you hear, rather that pre-scripted questions.
I was intrigued because I generally think of these instruments (perhaps wrongly) being played with a drum of some sort (and voice), which would render the soundboard tap kind of redundant.
You can probably tell from my slightly puzzled reaction that I was really learning a lot that day! hehe
@@kungfuasgaeilge It was a long interview actually, and I think we did talk about it! And 30mins was the cut-down version. We certainly did cover a lot of ground. Thanks for watching and thanks for your kind compliments! :)
What is the name of the first song this player plays??? I've heard it before. What is the title?
nice
The sculpture was found in the city of Ilam, the history of the construction SAZ is five thousand years old, Ilam is a Kurdish city in kurdistan (Iran).
iranvailamcells.blogfa.com/1397/04
Saz is Turkish and Azerbaijani music instruments !!!
What's the intro music??
maybe you'll find it here - www.youtube.com/@BarakSazBaglama
Nothing matters but Hashem 🔯🕎🔯🔯♒♒🎶🎶🎶🎵🎵🎵🎶🎵 great day for the peace of JERUSALEM 🕎💗
Make one video for Greek music, Greetings from Peireus, Athens!!! I like your videos make more!!!
I'd love to! I actually have a few Greek instruments at home. It's on my list, don't worry! If you know of any great Greek musicians I can interview over there, send me a message! james (at) jameshodson.com :)
Great singing 🔯🕎
the biggest misconception about this instrument, is that the saz is an originally authentic Turkish instrument. The saz has been played before Turkic expansion into West Asia, and is derived from the Dutar (Dotar).
The Baglama as we see it today, was made in Turkey in the past 80 years or so. It is a modern instrument like that of the Greek Bouzouki, however it is modelled of the Kurdish Tambur and Diwan Sazi. Pre existing Mesopotamian and Eastern Anatolian cultures have played this type of instrument for Millenia. The baglama doesn't have any ties to the central asian kopuz, this is cheap Turkish propaganda pushed by nationalists who wish to declare everything as Turkish. Kurds and Iran have a strong history and culture of stringed instruments, its just common sense.
For fucks sake mate at least don't bring bullshit politics here and no this has ties to the likes dombra , kopuz and etc and I am sure tambur influced some versions of it but let's no lie out of our asses to push a bs agenda.
I don’t see any turkic cultures in east or Central Asia haveing such a strong culture of the tembur. The anatolian style of tembur playing has nothing to do with Central Asia. There is no politics in my comment? Don’t know what your talking about.
It's actually a Kurdish instrument but whatever
It isnt
It is not. But Kurds, Arabs, Persians, Armenians play too. Guess what? Yeees you know it! They all living in same geography.
saz origin dates back to ancient greece, it's not turkish
Dude I dont want any debates on this. We can argue about Black Sea Kemenche (Pontian Lyre) is whether a greek instrument or turkish instrument. But the form of baglama, directly comes from Central Asia. You can’t argue this. Because, there are proofs that dates 2000 years ago. Turkic people were playing this instrument through all the time. Baglama is one of the instrument that belongs to Turkic people clearly.
@@flanorlerii5626
Saz is Persian Musical Instrument and all central Asian musical also have Persian Roots
Spanish Guitar has Copied From Persian Tar, Indian Sitar has Copied From Persian Setar, Chinese Pipa(Loot) has Copied From Persian Barbat
@@peykanjavanan2226 hahahahahah you made me laugh actually. Yes you are absolutely right. Even whole european nations directly comes from Persia. Even all humans come from persia. ahhhhh
@@flanorlerii5626
That's all You can say little Turk keep laughing but nothing is going to change
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The world's first bowl-shaped musical instrument was seen in the Susa and Elam civilization of Iran, 3000 - 3500 years ago
when there was no trace of the Turks and their tents
www.guyguitars.com/eng/handbook/BriefHistory.html
@@peykanjavanan2226 This is bullshit. Because baglama is come from dombra. And we Turks use it since 6000 years. You can find in Kazakhstan.
Its a kurdish insturment not turkish
The Kurdish Saz ,,Tembûr‘‘ has only 3 strings and not 7 strings like the ,,classic‘‘ Turkish instrument. The Kurdish Tembûr was mainly produced in Northern Kurdistan and Eastern Kurdistan (Meletî, Dersîm, Marash, Amed, Kirmaschan, Mahabad....)
String instruments like these originate from ancient mesopotamian sources. Every culture, from the far east to the far west of eurasia, has its variants. Thats why the same style instrument is found in neighbouring cultures, theres just slight variations such as string count as shape