*Got a message from one of the modders I thought I should pin, here's a quote:* "... wanted to give you a bit of a backstory. You're absolutely right these Ciri dialogues cut on purpose, when I found them they were in very terrible state to be honest. The camera was not there at all, only voices played, that's why you see the static camera, that's the best we can do with the tools that we have (CDPR never released a true editor). But I always thought these dialogues quite interesting, even if they don't fit perfectly so I managed to get them to a presentable state ." Once again I want to commend the people behind BiA for the great job they did on this mod! Also several viewers have commented about witnessing these scenes on console/unmodded game, however that seems quite unlikely given the information.
Hold up mate this happens on xbox one game of the year Ed no mod needed not all of it yet most of it don't know about ps but stream deck don't have them talking like this
I've never liked the fact that Keira's death goes unnoticed (in case Geralt kills her). It would've been interesting to see how the other sorceresses react if they find out.
I think Geralt never mentions it because Keira was very good friend of Yen And Triss and if they would found out they'd hate Geralt. I know Yen can read mind etc but i think she uses it when she has to rather using it all the time. And maybe it's the way that the game tell you "Hey, you fucked up, why did you killed her, Geralt would never do it" which is indeed the truth
@@toffi3236 Keira and Triss were close indeed (same generation, both sitting at Foltest's Council, usually sitting next to each other during Lodge meetings), but I don't think it was ever suggested Keira was a very good friend of Yen. If anything, Keira voted against Ciri and Geralt at the Lodge meeting, the last time Yen met her. In fact, Yen shouldn't be exactly chummy with most of the Lodge, especially with those on the "controlly" side regarding Ciri.
She's a throwaway bang, who uses you from the start because she tired of living in a slightly worse off manner than she's accustomed to. Keep in mind, that she has a fucking jacuzzi. She is only redeemed as a character if you get her to Kaer Morhen, she saves Labmbert, and ends up curing the Catriona plague. Otherwise, who gives a shit? She has sex with him just so she can get close enough to ear roofie Geralt to sleep until she can go get the notes from the tower, because she has bedbugs. It's almost more appropriate to let her go to Radovid so she can get split up the cunt on a pyre and die in the most horrible way possible.
I’m glad they never removed Keira from the hillside at Kaer Morhen. She makes it feel less empty and lonely when you spawn there at the end of the game. Just being able to run up there and say hello and hear some voice lines from a beloved character, I’ve always felt this comforting.
So many years I’ve watched this channel. Honestly the heartbreak of finishing the Witcher is comparable with breaking up with the love of your life. I’ve played this game so many times and in the darkest of times Geralt’s humour brings you back. Ngl Xletalis is like making a small bandaid work well on a huge gaping wound, but it helps with the withdrawal symptoms of finishing one of the greatest stories of all time, not just video games, but as a whole. Thanks a lot man, seriously! Love yall Also, Yennefuma gives me nightmares.
You can extract sound files from The Witcher 3. There are a lot of unused dialogues. For example, how Ciri wanted to cut off the heads of inhabitants of Lofoten on Hindarsfjall , because they condemned Skjall to death and threw him into a pile of corpses on the beach. But Geralt explained to her that they lost a lot of people after the massacre of the Wild Hunt. And that they don't deserve it. 😄
I must say that I wish they fixed these and included them, regardless of whether they present things realistically or are just comical. This entire dialogue is so peaceful, especially after all the chaos and pain that everyone goes through, which kinda makes me feel as if the light-hearted jokes actually do fit in. To divulge on the peacefulness I see in the scene - man I remember the first time I played the game and got to this part. You go from heartbroken to smiling and chuckling so quickly, so I really do feel like the humorous responses do somewhat fit in
The only time Ciri met Keira, at the final Lodge meeting from the books, Keira voted against her being allowed to see Geralt again. Stating plainly that the clever girl shouldn't be given a chance to run away. It's odd that this never comes up, especially in this restored dialogue.
@@denijane89 They usually stick pretty close to the spirit with characters behaving in a book-plausible way. Besides, they do depict Keira as a backstabby anti-hero type of character, so why would it confuse gamers that she acted against the main characters in the past? Would be an additional opportunity for the player to think "and I sent Geralt in that snake's arms...".
@@magean0301 I think all the sorceresses in the books were made a little too bitchy. But let's say I don't like the Sapkowski's vision on women. My point is, the game follows the spirit, but otherwise I don't think the game had anything from that story line where Ciri is forced to breed for the Lodge. Anyway, I save Keira and I think she's fun.
@@denijane89 You're right, the game shows that the Lodge wants Ciri for some reason but doesn't mention the original plot. Same for Emhyr, who now just wants his daughter as heir to the throne. Likewise, Avallac'h and Eredin have seemingly lost interest in her womb and want Ciri as a living portal. Ge'els makes a reference to Avallac'h's initial intentions and that's about it. I suppose it was deemed excessively unsettling for the audience. As for Sapkowski's vision of women... could it be that it seems exaggerated due to most powerful women being assembled in the same place, whereas their male counterparts are "scattered"? Besides, male sorcerers don't seem any better than sorceresses. Vilgefortz is a monster, and many of his male colleagues died on Thanedd.
@@magean0301 Well, I think he's a product of his time and place. I guess this is why I like the game more, since it's much better nuanced and Ciri doesn't want to sleep with everyone on sight, which I find rather unrealistic.
I would love if Ciri asks about Keira, you'd get some sort of flashback of that fate. Whether that was her on a stake after visiting Radovid, dying at Geralts hand or going to Kaer Morhen, it would tie in nicely with a more detailed response, and letting Ciri and Geralt discuss the dire situation between sorceresses and witch hunters in Velen/Novigrad And I agree about the line regarding Dandelion. Fits a light hearted tone with a light hearted character. Could even mention your quest with his many "girlfriends" or poking fun at her for being his "cousin from Kovir" :D Great video as always!
@xLetalis - one update to your video. CDPR did fix Keira to make her disappear after the funeral scene in Kaer Morhen. However, like most fixes in this game, it's not retroactive. Meaning, you probably used an old save file where she was there. You have to use a save file from before the funeral, play through the funeral and the events at Bald Mountain, and then go back to Kaer Morhen. Then you will see she has disappeared. Believe me, this was one of the first things we (the BiA mod team) checked for in the next-gen edition.
I love the idea of someone asking CDPR why they haven't removed the bugged Keira from the funeral and they just respond "what do you mean? What if a player runs out of herbs in Kaer Morhen"
I love how you use Witcher 2 soundtrack in the background. All Witcher games have great music but second one always hits different, especially when you talk with Roche in Wild Hunt and hear it rearranged
Something that genuinely irks me with remasters, re releases and so on is that so rarely do these ever add content that was clearly scrapped/cut that could realistically still be added in Look at Skyrim and it's dozen editions. Sure they add some interesting things but you rarely get cut quests, items and such. Obviously plenty of other examples and of course not all require such. But if it can be added relatively well, why keep it omitted? This is especially so with dialog
I think a good work around COULD be something like how Insomniac used to do the Museum thing (R&C2016 clearly didn't get the memo) Gives players a chance to see that stuff but if it can't be put in the game naturally, we at least can have so semblance of whay mechanics or such were like BUUUUT thats now me getting a bit off topic which I apologize for
I could’ve sworn that Keira’s dialogue still showed up in a play through where I killed her, when talking to Yennefer. I remember being surprised he didn’t mention he killed her.
Unless that's a Next-Gen change I'm pretty sure it wasn't showing up, I made a video about it a long time ago, and then checked it again when I made the more recent video about doing the main quest in every possible order
yeah i get why they cut the dendilion line. dendilion is brave even tough he is weak. geralt literally cant call him a coward for the sheer fact he stayed with him throughout his adventures. he also helped ciri and nearly got himself killed which is also brave. it was a bad line.
What always bothered me a bit about Keira is that in game her greyish white hair makes her look a bit old, unfortunately. Then you look at the scene which tells how she died and these drawings let her look as young as she actually was
Great quality video as always. Keep up the good work :) I was wondering if you know something about the chapel near the old distillery in Skellige. There are ruins atop the distillery around which you can examine an altar of sorts for Geralt to comment something like: "What an odd place for a chapel?" It seemed quite out of place to me and I couldn't think of it having any reasonable connection to anything.
@@xLetalis You go there as part of the quest where you become the apprentice of Gremist, the master alchemist. It's around the southeastern part of Ard Skellig and has it's own fast travel point if I remember correctly.
Probably an old bug, but in next gen you can talk to Hjalmar in the middle of the battle of Kaer Morhen at any moment and even tho Ciri is back, the only options available are when he talks about what would it be to see her again and something about Skellige.
You know I have played and watched the scene with Gerald and Ciri. I think everyone assumes she had died and the glowing must brought her back. But maybe Ciri had astroly projected her soul out of her body to find Geralt and what you think is the myst is actually her returning her soul to her body.
I'm happy to keep listening to these videos since I've still never finished the damn game, or Skyrim for that matter. These really big games have so much room to wander around.
Understand why they took those lines out since they didn't flow well but wish they found a way to make it work. I'm sure you know this but top notch swords guy is back and he actually sells swords! Witcher ones no less. Also I can't confirm this since I don't have a pc to look in the files or a save even remotely close to it but apparently in the patch files it mentions a reward from Crach for killing Hammond? Keira was not stuck for me at Kaer Morhen on PS5 even though it showed the alchemist symbol on the map but also meant I couldn't see that dialogue about Lambert :(
They should have added Ciri's dialogue with Hjalmar. They wanted to get marry as kids. Long ago, yes, but if and when he came to fight for her in Kaer Morhen she didn't even say Hi to him :(
I think in this case they deleted it because this scene already has a ton of dialoge. It takes almost 5 minutes to get the trough if you choose every talk option which is a lot for a game. So I feel like they didn't want to make it even longer. Though they could've included that when Ciri is at the Chameleon and things calmed down. Also pretty sure you get more money for Ciri now because they pity Geralt in the Netflix armor XD
I don't know where to write it, but I noticed some changes in Skellige: - The Hornwall horn's appearance has changed. Not so much, but it's not yellow now, but brown(?) and seems more realistic. - Besides on the map of Skellige, the water is even bluer, than before. - And maybe (I'm not sure of that, but) the music has become softer on some islands. (I don't know how to put it more precisely)
Hey, I noticed the horn too, should probably mention it in a video, looks cooler now. The water I assume is part of the graphical changes/improvements. Haven't noticed the music though, need to take a listen to it ;]
Another BiA fix. The icon was there in the files all along but CDPR incorrectly linked it to a different icon. There were several of these we fixed in last gen, like the bell pepper icon, Menge's tome, etc. CDPR finally fixed them in next-gen.
I should make a mod that adds the option of Gwent in every dialgoue. Just for fun. Imagine seeing that here. "I thought you were dead, Ciri. How about a round of Gwent?"
Were those removed lines voiced in all the available languages? Just out of curiosity really, suppose that might give us a clue as to when in the dev cycle they were cut.
I don't have a way to check it rn but I think they are in polish? The odd thing I remember that I heard them in a not-modded game at the top of that, but that may be my memories mixing...
@@xLetalis im pretty sure that they are in polish, as I a remeber these dialogs from my playthroughs. I could check that later as I’m replaying the game in next gen and i’m at the island of mist.
I know this is unrelated, but you should check out the Witcher quest in monster hunter world if you never seen it before. Probably not anything to make a video about but still cool to watch.
Honestly, I am so happy that you are making so many videos about the Witcher and share your thoughts! Even though I finished the games a few times, I am still happy to continue reliving the game through your videos. Somehow that gives me a kind of stability in these uncertain times. Also, I feel like you have build a community with people who love the game so much as I do! Thank you so much!! :)
I never kill Kiera not even in my first playhrough. I think the deleted dialogue should stay deleted. BTW did you take a look at the patch they dropped yesterday. I'm missing the table at Corvo Bianco lol But the candles are still floating there and the scabboards too. And one guy got his line back. I'd like to play it again but it's exhausting...I mean really exhausting if I do New Game + at this point but I keep it installed because there are usually small quests I missed.
xLetalis, no offense for your continued trust in CDPR but.. they didn't choose anything. They simply integrated an older version of the brothers in arms restoration mod. The guys from that mod are literally finding their changes 1:1 in there. They simply didn't integrate the newest version or talked to anybody from the BIA team. CDPR didn't restore a single thing. They simple picked a couple mods and integrated them. None of this is their own work or design. They just picked from what other people have build over years and made a cheap copy of it, often screwing it up and introducing new game breaking quest bugs, while missing essential fixes that the community already had made for other stuff. I won't even mention how amateurish their directX12 implementation is, yet another cheap shortcut because they didn't have the willingness to actually invest work. We need to accept that the CDPR of old is long gone. Everybody that was worth anything in that company left because the management abused their hard work and treated them like crap. Nobody that created the games we love is left at that company. What they still have are a bunch of screwups that can't even deliver an update without screwing it up and introducing tons of new bugs, embarrassing themselves all over again after the CP disaster. Maybe the console people are happy about these fixes but I bet they'd be more happy if the actual modders had been consulted and ALL fixes had been PROPERLY integrated. Instead most of the work was ignored, the mod selection was sloppy and tons of new bugs are plaguing this version now. I wish people would stop loving companies and instead check which people were actually working on the projects they love and where those people are now. It was the same thing with Bioware. People wondered why Bioware was crap all of a sudden. Well they were crap because all the people that had created the games everybody loved simple were not at the company anymore. Games are created by designers, developers and artists... by people... not by a company logo. The people that created Witcher 1-3 are not the same people working there now. Those talented people all left because CDPR treated them like crap.
@@xLetalis I've talked to the BIA modders over the last couple months on Discord. I contributed super tiny parts of it myself (just a fix of a skill visual effect and I repaired Geralt's weather comments to make more sense) From what they tell me they can find over 5000 of their fixes in the NextGen Update while other fixes are missing. They also identified what mods probably got included in some shape or form and it seems CDPR simply went on Nexus, sorted by "most downloaded" and includeded the top of that list (minus the boob and nude mods). They completely ignored some of the most recent very amazing mods that fixed, restored or added amazing stuff, because they only sorted by most downloaded over the entire timespan, instead of most endorsed or downloaded recently. They also never published a list of included mods, so the modder community is now slowly working through the files, trying to detect what mods got included, what is now redundant and what needs to be updated. CDPR doesn't communicate at all, and doesn't release proper changelists and file change lists that modders could use. I also can't remember CDPR ever crediting BIA with the thousands of fixes they created that ended up in NextGen. let alone all the testing the modders made to ensure that unlike CDPR with some of their changes, none of the fixes and restorations break any mods. The modders spent MONTHS testing and retesting every single flow of quests and dialog and fixed a ton of stuff, restoring dialog, questlines and other things. I have yet to see CDPR thanking them or crediting them publicly or even mentioning where most of the fixes they included came from. I ran probably nearly 200 mods on Witcher 3. From graphical improvements to fixes to skills that CDPR never repaired, to quest fixes, to dialog improvements, to stuff as simple as Novigrad quests actually having the novigrad crest in the questlog instead of the Velen one (yes that's inclued too, that's not a CDPR fix, the fans did that, it eventually was integrated into the BIA mod) NONE of that work came from CDPR, that was all fan made. The only things that came from CDPR directly, are the things that broke quests and tanked the performance of the game. Oh yes and the Netflix crap that nobody cared about.
Oh I have always wondered how to get Keira to talk about her and Lambert. I heard it but once in a video once (perhaps yours) but was never able to trigger it in-game myself. So Keira can get stuck in Kaer Morhen? Where can you find her when she gets stuck?
„not too heavy with extra casual dialogue“ - It is still optional. And as a developer I would not cater to players who can’t make up their mind. (I.e. selecting it, while not wanting to hear it?!)
@@xLetalis maybe they changed it on some minor patch and then quickly changed it back. This just feels so familiar from the days years back. Im not expert of anything but noticed even earlier that I have a feeling that I had this different than today. I played it years back and now playing again the game.
May be just deja vu, but I swear I had those lines during my playthrough on the switch. I don't know how that is possible, though, if they're not available anywhere else. Edit: Apologies, the lines with Ciri on the isle of mists.
It's unrelated, but after the outro i can't wait for your future videos about the remake of the first game. I'm interested to what will the devs will remove or add compared to the original Witcher 1.
Speaking of the brothers in arms mod it restores a dialogue between Gerald and roach when roach has the saddle O dimm gives you that was previously inaccessible due to a bug. I haven’t encountered it due to not siding with him in the story but if you ever want to include it in an upcoming video I’d be grateful to see what it is :)
I finished the game yesterday for the twelfth time, I only made good choices in my save, the baron and his wife stayed alive, keira and Lambert stayed together, #@&Man Jr I left him alive and he became a beggar later, Cerys became the queen of Skellige, ciri became empress and nilfgaard won the war, in the DLCs I saved olgierd in the hearts of Stone and in the DLC blood and wine the duchess and her sister stayed alive and forgave each other, then Yennefer appeared in Corvo Bianco visiting Geralt.
It might be "old news," but not all of us have heard it either, and/or we like hearing xLetalis' opinion. Don't be a Debbie Downer. ;) I think I'm going to get this mod. It could make things interesting.
hello, there is a dialog whith eskel, that i am not very sure off, but it is ingraved in my memory, the thing is it is in the first verson if the game, in that dialog geralt and eskel are talking, and eskel say somthing about him wanting to restart making wichers, he sad that it is not gonna be like befor. when i apdated the game i didn't com acros that dialog, i an not so serten cuz it feels like no one know about this that i am daouting my memory, if it is somthing some one have come acros plz say somthin, and thanks for reading.
*Got a message from one of the modders I thought I should pin, here's a quote:*
"... wanted to give you a bit of a backstory.
You're absolutely right these Ciri dialogues cut on purpose, when I found them they were in very terrible state to be honest. The camera was not there at all, only voices played, that's why you see the static camera, that's the best we can do with the tools that we have (CDPR never released a true editor). But I always thought these dialogues quite interesting, even if they don't fit perfectly so I managed to get them to a presentable state ."
Once again I want to commend the people behind BiA for the great job they did on this mod! Also several viewers have commented about witnessing these scenes on console/unmodded game, however that seems quite unlikely given the information.
Hold up mate this happens on xbox one game of the year Ed no mod needed not all of it yet most of it don't know about ps but stream deck don't have them talking like this
I've never liked the fact that Keira's death goes unnoticed (in case Geralt kills her). It would've been interesting to see how the other sorceresses react if they find out.
That would be cool as just nobody cares and its a bit stupid
I think Geralt never mentions it because Keira was very good friend of Yen And Triss and if they would found out they'd hate Geralt. I know Yen can read mind etc but i think she uses it when she has to rather using it all the time. And maybe it's the way that the game tell you "Hey, you fucked up, why did you killed her, Geralt would never do it" which is indeed the truth
Look at the sign hanging near the blacksmith in White Orchard after the finale.
@@toffi3236 Keira and Triss were close indeed (same generation, both sitting at Foltest's Council, usually sitting next to each other during Lodge meetings), but I don't think it was ever suggested Keira was a very good friend of Yen. If anything, Keira voted against Ciri and Geralt at the Lodge meeting, the last time Yen met her. In fact, Yen shouldn't be exactly chummy with most of the Lodge, especially with those on the "controlly" side regarding Ciri.
She's a throwaway bang, who uses you from the start because she tired of living in a slightly worse off manner than she's accustomed to. Keep in mind, that she has a fucking jacuzzi. She is only redeemed as a character if you get her to Kaer Morhen, she saves Labmbert, and ends up curing the Catriona plague. Otherwise, who gives a shit? She has sex with him just so she can get close enough to ear roofie Geralt to sleep until she can go get the notes from the tower, because she has bedbugs. It's almost more appropriate to let her go to Radovid so she can get split up the cunt on a pyre and die in the most horrible way possible.
xLetalis never runs out of witcher 3 content and I'm here for it
Like when you think he stops he musters up something and we (the viewers) are still amazed
Well he is after like the Professor of the Witcher content lol 🧐😁
So you are here forever
I’m not even sure how it’s possible at this point.
I’m glad they never removed Keira from the hillside at Kaer Morhen.
She makes it feel less empty and lonely when you spawn there at the end of the game.
Just being able to run up there and say hello and hear some voice lines from a beloved character, I’ve always felt this comforting.
Yes, but even more so if that door was unlocked and she'd probably move around a bit, like wander into the castle at night or something.
So many years I’ve watched this channel. Honestly the heartbreak of finishing the Witcher is comparable with breaking up with the love of your life. I’ve played this game so many times and in the darkest of times Geralt’s humour brings you back.
Ngl Xletalis is like making a small bandaid work well on a huge gaping wound, but it helps with the withdrawal symptoms of finishing one of the greatest stories of all time, not just video games, but as a whole.
Thanks a lot man, seriously! Love yall
Also, Yennefuma gives me nightmares.
what a lovely comment
I know what you mean. I finished the game 3 times now and i always cry like a baby when i find Ciri
Who’s Yennefuma??
@@tomtaylor1178 A mod used by xLetalis showing the real look of Yennefer after removing her glamour 😀
@@tobiasliebig6076 in other words you switch player models with uma
You can extract sound files from The Witcher 3. There are a lot of unused dialogues. For example, how Ciri wanted to cut off the heads of inhabitants of Lofoten on Hindarsfjall , because they condemned Skjall to death and threw him into a pile of corpses on the beach. But Geralt explained to her that they lost a lot of people after the massacre of the Wild Hunt. And that they don't deserve it. 😄
Oh that's definitely a bit too much!
@@xLetalis Would fit to Ciri tho
Ignore the haters, please keep making videos regardless if it was "already known" because I didn't know it until I watched your videos.
I must say that I wish they fixed these and included them, regardless of whether they present things realistically or are just comical. This entire dialogue is so peaceful, especially after all the chaos and pain that everyone goes through, which kinda makes me feel as if the light-hearted jokes actually do fit in.
To divulge on the peacefulness I see in the scene - man I remember the first time I played the game and got to this part. You go from heartbroken to smiling and chuckling so quickly, so I really do feel like the humorous responses do somewhat fit in
well said :)
The only time Ciri met Keira, at the final Lodge meeting from the books, Keira voted against her being allowed to see Geralt again. Stating plainly that the clever girl shouldn't be given a chance to run away. It's odd that this never comes up, especially in this restored dialogue.
Well, the game doesn't follow the books so much so they probably thought it's gonna confuse gamers.
@@denijane89 They usually stick pretty close to the spirit with characters behaving in a book-plausible way. Besides, they do depict Keira as a backstabby anti-hero type of character, so why would it confuse gamers that she acted against the main characters in the past? Would be an additional opportunity for the player to think "and I sent Geralt in that snake's arms...".
@@magean0301 I think all the sorceresses in the books were made a little too bitchy. But let's say I don't like the Sapkowski's vision on women. My point is, the game follows the spirit, but otherwise I don't think the game had anything from that story line where Ciri is forced to breed for the Lodge. Anyway, I save Keira and I think she's fun.
@@denijane89 You're right, the game shows that the Lodge wants Ciri for some reason but doesn't mention the original plot. Same for Emhyr, who now just wants his daughter as heir to the throne. Likewise, Avallac'h and Eredin have seemingly lost interest in her womb and want Ciri as a living portal. Ge'els makes a reference to Avallac'h's initial intentions and that's about it. I suppose it was deemed excessively unsettling for the audience.
As for Sapkowski's vision of women... could it be that it seems exaggerated due to most powerful women being assembled in the same place, whereas their male counterparts are "scattered"? Besides, male sorcerers don't seem any better than sorceresses. Vilgefortz is a monster, and many of his male colleagues died on Thanedd.
@@magean0301 Well, I think he's a product of his time and place. I guess this is why I like the game more, since it's much better nuanced and Ciri doesn't want to sleep with everyone on sight, which I find rather unrealistic.
Looks like your Witcher 3 videos will never end 😯
I would love if Ciri asks about Keira, you'd get some sort of flashback of that fate. Whether that was her on a stake after visiting Radovid, dying at Geralts hand or going to Kaer Morhen, it would tie in nicely with a more detailed response, and letting Ciri and Geralt discuss the dire situation between sorceresses and witch hunters in Velen/Novigrad
And I agree about the line regarding Dandelion. Fits a light hearted tone with a light hearted character. Could even mention your quest with his many "girlfriends" or poking fun at her for being his "cousin from Kovir" :D
Great video as always!
great ideas :)
@@xLetalis Oh the scene with triss turning into yen and the unicorn, how did u get it?
@@Fenrispro ah that's a mod czcams.com/video/16pVTR7Lpe8/video.html
@xLetalis - one update to your video. CDPR did fix Keira to make her disappear after the funeral scene in Kaer Morhen. However, like most fixes in this game, it's not retroactive. Meaning, you probably used an old save file where she was there. You have to use a save file from before the funeral, play through the funeral and the events at Bald Mountain, and then go back to Kaer Morhen. Then you will see she has disappeared. Believe me, this was one of the first things we (the BiA mod team) checked for in the next-gen edition.
I swear CDPR said the fixes in Next-Gen are retroactive in the stream where they showed the next-gen trailer :)
Youre correct. They did say that. :D But not all of them are.
I love the idea of someone asking CDPR why they haven't removed the bugged Keira from the funeral and they just respond "what do you mean? What if a player runs out of herbs in Kaer Morhen"
and we love when you speculate!
I just want to say big thanks author this video, because he's really helping me in learning english)
my pleasure :)
I liked that you included "A quiet corner", that put a huge smile on my face.
I like this video's thumbnail a lot, simple but very catching.
:) thank you
I love how you use Witcher 2 soundtrack in the background. All Witcher games have great music but second one always hits different, especially when you talk with Roche in Wild Hunt and hear it rearranged
Something that genuinely irks me with remasters, re releases and so on is that so rarely do these ever add content that was clearly scrapped/cut that could realistically still be added in
Look at Skyrim and it's dozen editions. Sure they add some interesting things but you rarely get cut quests, items and such. Obviously plenty of other examples and of course not all require such. But if it can be added relatively well, why keep it omitted?
This is especially so with dialog
this one needed some work :(
I think a good work around COULD be something like how Insomniac used to do the Museum thing (R&C2016 clearly didn't get the memo)
Gives players a chance to see that stuff but if it can't be put in the game naturally, we at least can have so semblance of whay mechanics or such were like BUUUUT thats now me getting a bit off topic which I apologize for
6:50 Talks about "atrocities" and "serious undertone" while glitching Ciri into a brothel. Classic, xLetalis.
xLethalis explored the entire game and now he is going deeper there is never an end to the Witcher 3 madness
2:32 No matter how many times I hear this... It's absolutely hilarious.
I would have liked to see that Geralt and Keira talk about what happened in Thanedd
Absolutely great 👍🏻
I think you're spot on about the dialogue and why it was cut. Interesting
the Witcher 3 just never stops giving does it?
love the videos too man
Great video as always
9:20 I think I remember accessing this dialogue at the funeral during one of my playthroughs... It was either on Switch or Xbox.
it's possible, I've never played the game on anything other than PC
I could’ve sworn that Keira’s dialogue still showed up in a play through where I killed her, when talking to Yennefer. I remember being surprised he didn’t mention he killed her.
Unless that's a Next-Gen change I'm pretty sure it wasn't showing up, I made a video about it a long time ago, and then checked it again when I made the more recent video about doing the main quest in every possible order
Love your videos man keep up the good work!
yeah i get why they cut the dendilion line. dendilion is brave even tough he is weak. geralt literally cant call him a coward for the sheer fact he stayed with him throughout his adventures. he also helped ciri and nearly got himself killed which is also brave. it was a bad line.
What always bothered me a bit about Keira is that in game her greyish white hair makes her look a bit old, unfortunately. Then you look at the scene which tells how she died and these drawings let her look as young as she actually was
Great quality video as always. Keep up the good work :)
I was wondering if you know something about the chapel near the old distillery in Skellige. There are ruins atop the distillery around which you can examine an altar of sorts for Geralt to comment something like: "What an odd place for a chapel?" It seemed quite out of place to me and I couldn't think of it having any reasonable connection to anything.
hmm I'll have to check it out, where exactly is that?
@@xLetalis You go there as part of the quest where you become the apprentice of Gremist, the master alchemist. It's around the southeastern part of Ard Skellig and has it's own fast travel point if I remember correctly.
@@kukkaoksa1892 ah yes indeed, ok I'll have a look :)
I swear if I see that accursed Netflix armour on Witcher footage ever again I might just puke..
I hate that you have the ballsack armor for those selling Ciri clips now
Probably an old bug, but in next gen you can talk to Hjalmar in the middle of the battle of Kaer Morhen at any moment and even tho Ciri is back, the only options available are when he talks about what would it be to see her again and something about Skellige.
Happy Friday xLetalis!
Can't wait for the next Witcher game to provide xLetalis content up to the year 2035!
You know I have played and watched the scene with Gerald and Ciri. I think everyone assumes she had died and the glowing must brought her back. But maybe Ciri had astroly projected her soul out of her body to find Geralt and what you think is the myst is actually her returning her soul to her body.
Seeing lambert smile is a cursed image.
What a video! Thanks!
my pleasure
I'm happy to keep listening to these videos since I've still never finished the damn game, or Skyrim for that matter. These really big games have so much room to wander around.
Understand why they took those lines out since they didn't flow well but wish they found a way to make it work.
I'm sure you know this but top notch swords guy is back and he actually sells swords! Witcher ones no less. Also I can't confirm this since I don't have a pc to look in the files or a save even remotely close to it but apparently in the patch files it mentions a reward from Crach for killing Hammond?
Keira was not stuck for me at Kaer Morhen on PS5 even though it showed the alchemist symbol on the map but also meant I couldn't see that dialogue about Lambert :(
I'll have to check that reward
I was going to ask if CDPR fixed Keira being stuck at Kaer Morhen in the next-gen update, looks like she's still there.
They should have added Ciri's dialogue with Hjalmar. They wanted to get marry as kids. Long ago, yes, but if and when he came to fight for her in Kaer Morhen she didn't even say Hi to him :(
Never knew about this
Thank you)))
I think in this case they deleted it because this scene already has a ton of dialoge. It takes almost 5 minutes to get the trough if you choose every talk option which is a lot for a game. So I feel like they didn't want to make it even longer. Though they could've included that when Ciri is at the Chameleon and things calmed down.
Also pretty sure you get more money for Ciri now because they pity Geralt in the Netflix armor XD
6:00 this is some very subtle savagery right here
Thank you for continuing to carry the amazing story of The Witcher xx
I had all the dialogues on my game, which was pre-next gen English PC 2021
In my recent playthrough after the next-gen update on the Xbox Series X I could ask Keria about her relationship with Lambert during the funeral
🙂
I killed Keira and after the battle of Kaer Morhen Triss was like '"yeah I'll try to contact her" lol. They have no idea about her status really.
You should make more videos on Witcher 1
perhaps when the remaster comes out ;]
I don't know where to write it, but I noticed some changes in Skellige:
- The Hornwall horn's appearance has changed. Not so much, but it's not yellow now, but brown(?) and seems more realistic.
- Besides on the map of Skellige, the water is even bluer, than before.
- And maybe (I'm not sure of that, but) the music has become softer on some islands. (I don't know how to put it more precisely)
Hey, I noticed the horn too, should probably mention it in a video, looks cooler now. The water I assume is part of the graphical changes/improvements. Haven't noticed the music though, need to take a listen to it ;]
Another BiA fix. The icon was there in the files all along but CDPR incorrectly linked it to a different icon. There were several of these we fixed in last gen, like the bell pepper icon, Menge's tome, etc. CDPR finally fixed them in next-gen.
I should make a mod that adds the option of Gwent in every dialgoue. Just for fun. Imagine seeing that here. "I thought you were dead, Ciri. How about a round of Gwent?"
That Nilfgaardian ballsack armour could be the most powerful armour in the game, giving Geralt Thanos-like powers, I would not want to use it.
books geralt would never say such things about dandilion, the man who stood on the gallows calmly, until the duchess saved him in the last moment.
Were those removed lines voiced in all the available languages? Just out of curiosity really, suppose that might give us a clue as to when in the dev cycle they were cut.
haven't tested it in other languages
I don't have a way to check it rn but I think they are in polish?
The odd thing I remember that I heard them in a not-modded game at the top of that, but that may be my memories mixing...
@@xLetalis im pretty sure that they are in polish, as I a remeber these dialogs from my playthroughs. I could check that later as I’m replaying the game in next gen and i’m at the island of mist.
@@Konstantynn tag me too when you check this, please!
I was just messaged by the mod authors (pinned their message), based on what they said I find it highly unlike that this dialogue was ever available.
I've seen the dialogue about Keira Metz in my own playthrough in the next gen!
Honestly any more dialogue would be welcome.
P.S, never heard of this “old news” myself lol.
I found something I never knew was there. You can try to convince the Doppler in the Witcher contract to "imp"personate menge when you catch him.
I know this is unrelated, but you should check out the Witcher quest in monster hunter world if you never seen it before. Probably not anything to make a video about but still cool to watch.
I've never played the game ;[
Where's that scene with Triss turning into Yen with the unicorn that we sometimes see in these videos come from?
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2:32 hahahaha I choked on my coffee.
yeah, top notch dialogue there :)
Honestly, I am so happy that you are making so many videos about the Witcher and share your thoughts! Even though I finished the games a few times, I am still happy to continue reliving the game through your videos. Somehow that gives me a kind of stability in these uncertain times. Also, I feel like you have build a community with people who love the game so much as I do! Thank you so much!! :)
Hello Again Everybody ^-^
hey
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I wonder how many TB of Witcher 3 footage do you have ;)
Thanks for uploading excellent content. I really enjoy that with a good drink at night. Be good.
Good analysis
I love the father daughter moments, they are nice
I never kill Kiera not even in my first playhrough. I think the deleted dialogue should stay deleted. BTW did you take a look at the patch they dropped yesterday. I'm missing the table at Corvo Bianco lol But the candles are still floating there and the scabboards too. And one guy got his line back. I'd like to play it again but it's exhausting...I mean really exhausting if I do New Game + at this point but I keep it installed because there are usually small quests I missed.
xLetalis, no offense for your continued trust in CDPR but.. they didn't choose anything. They simply integrated an older version of the brothers in arms restoration mod. The guys from that mod are literally finding their changes 1:1 in there. They simply didn't integrate the newest version or talked to anybody from the BIA team.
CDPR didn't restore a single thing. They simple picked a couple mods and integrated them. None of this is their own work or design. They just picked from what other people have build over years and made a cheap copy of it, often screwing it up and introducing new game breaking quest bugs, while missing essential fixes that the community already had made for other stuff.
I won't even mention how amateurish their directX12 implementation is, yet another cheap shortcut because they didn't have the willingness to actually invest work.
We need to accept that the CDPR of old is long gone. Everybody that was worth anything in that company left because the management abused their hard work and treated them like crap. Nobody that created the games we love is left at that company. What they still have are a bunch of screwups that can't even deliver an update without screwing it up and introducing tons of new bugs, embarrassing themselves all over again after the CP disaster.
Maybe the console people are happy about these fixes but I bet they'd be more happy if the actual modders had been consulted and ALL fixes had been PROPERLY integrated. Instead most of the work was ignored, the mod selection was sloppy and tons of new bugs are plaguing this version now.
I wish people would stop loving companies and instead check which people were actually working on the projects they love and where those people are now.
It was the same thing with Bioware. People wondered why Bioware was crap all of a sudden. Well they were crap because all the people that had created the games everybody loved simple were not at the company anymore.
Games are created by designers, developers and artists... by people... not by a company logo. The people that created Witcher 1-3 are not the same people working there now. Those talented people all left because CDPR treated them like crap.
sad if true, I'm pretty new to the mod and don't really know anything about modding myself, I can attest to the DX12 issues though
@@xLetalis I've talked to the BIA modders over the last couple months on Discord. I contributed super tiny parts of it myself (just a fix of a skill visual effect and I repaired Geralt's weather comments to make more sense)
From what they tell me they can find over 5000 of their fixes in the NextGen Update while other fixes are missing.
They also identified what mods probably got included in some shape or form and it seems CDPR simply went on Nexus, sorted by "most downloaded" and includeded the top of that list (minus the boob and nude mods). They completely ignored some of the most recent very amazing mods that fixed, restored or added amazing stuff, because they only sorted by most downloaded over the entire timespan, instead of most endorsed or downloaded recently.
They also never published a list of included mods, so the modder community is now slowly working through the files, trying to detect what mods got included, what is now redundant and what needs to be updated.
CDPR doesn't communicate at all, and doesn't release proper changelists and file change lists that modders could use.
I also can't remember CDPR ever crediting BIA with the thousands of fixes they created that ended up in NextGen.
let alone all the testing the modders made to ensure that unlike CDPR with some of their changes, none of the fixes and restorations break any mods. The modders spent MONTHS testing and retesting every single flow of quests and dialog and fixed a ton of stuff, restoring dialog, questlines and other things.
I have yet to see CDPR thanking them or crediting them publicly or even mentioning where most of the fixes they included came from.
I ran probably nearly 200 mods on Witcher 3. From graphical improvements to fixes to skills that CDPR never repaired, to quest fixes, to dialog improvements, to stuff as simple as Novigrad quests actually having the novigrad crest in the questlog instead of the Velen one (yes that's inclued too, that's not a CDPR fix, the fans did that, it eventually was integrated into the BIA mod)
NONE of that work came from CDPR, that was all fan made.
The only things that came from CDPR directly, are the things that broke quests and tanked the performance of the game. Oh yes and the Netflix crap that nobody cared about.
I mean its their game, be grateful they support modding and move on me brozef
What is the background music played at 0:00? 🤔 I have heard it a few times but couldn't find it anywhere. Thanks!
Witcher 1 credits theme
I need to play this game to its maximum effect
I think I saw the keira and lambert option before and it wasn't moded
on PC it was only there when talking to Keira after the funeral (during her stuck phase)
@@xLetalis oh yes that make sense I play on PlayStation
Wait, Keira gets stuck at Kaer Morhen? I've literally never seen her there after the funeral. Is it always in one location, or does she wander around?
She remains exactly where she stands during the funeral, forever
so you basically have to jump a wall to get to her. But if you missed to buy reciepts from her in Velen it's nice to find her there later
@@xLetalis Cool! I will have to go find her.
She's not there on my playtrough after the funeral. ):
Oh I have always wondered how to get Keira to talk about her and Lambert. I heard it but once in a video once (perhaps yours) but was never able to trigger it in-game myself. So Keira can get stuck in Kaer Morhen? Where can you find her when she gets stuck?
she gets stuck exactly where you can talk to her during the funeral
@@xLetalis Oh I see! Thanks!
„not too heavy with extra casual dialogue“ - It is still optional. And as a developer I would not cater to players who can’t make up their mind. (I.e. selecting it, while not wanting to hear it?!)
fair enough, I would've personally kept the Dandelion dialogue for sure
2:32 same buddy, same
I'm like 90% sure I've heard the lines about Dandelion. Is it possible that it was in the game and then got deleted? I played on an xbox at launch
The dialogue is not there on my nearly 8 year old video, so I assume it was never there on PC
I think the same way. Nordic Edition. PC.
I feel like I've heard them too. And I played the French version on PC. I think I'll boot up an old save tomorrow, just to make sure 😄
I was just messaged by the mod authors (pinned their message), based on what they said I find it highly unlike that this dialogue was ever available.
@@xLetalis maybe they changed it on some minor patch and then quickly changed it back. This just feels so familiar from the days years back. Im not expert of anything but noticed even earlier that I have a feeling that I had this different than today. I played it years back and now playing again the game.
I'm looking for a W.
I died xD
What is the song called that plays at 7:21? I've heard it before but can't find it anywhere now.
Duke of Dogs from Thronebreaker the Witcher Tales
I like BIG scenes and I cannot lie.
May be just deja vu, but I swear I had those lines during my playthrough on the switch. I don't know how that is possible, though, if they're not available anywhere else.
Edit:
Apologies, the lines with Ciri on the isle of mists.
It's unrelated, but after the outro i can't wait for your future videos about the remake of the first game. I'm interested to what will the devs will remove or add compared to the original Witcher 1.
I'm curious as well
Winds howling…
The scene of Geralt with Nilfgardian uniform gets me so hard
Speaking of the brothers in arms mod it restores a dialogue between Gerald and roach when roach has the saddle O dimm gives you that was previously inaccessible due to a bug. I haven’t encountered it due to not siding with him in the story but if you ever want to include it in an upcoming video I’d be grateful to see what it is :)
hey I'll take a look
Striga scene still one of the best
More from BIA please!
Mr X is back with more goodies
What is the mod you use for the triss outfit in your videos?
it's on my discord, it got taken down from the nexus
I remembering accessing that dialog during funeral ages ago, maybe it broke at some point later on?
Good vid
I finished the game yesterday for the twelfth time, I only made good choices in my save, the baron and his wife stayed alive, keira and Lambert stayed together, #@&Man Jr I left him alive and he became a beggar later, Cerys became the queen of Skellige, ciri became empress and nilfgaard won the war, in the DLCs I saved olgierd in the hearts of Stone and in the DLC blood and wine the duchess and her sister stayed alive and forgave each other, then Yennefer appeared in Corvo Bianco visiting Geralt.
It might be "old news," but not all of us have heard it either, and/or we like hearing xLetalis' opinion. Don't be a Debbie Downer. ;)
I think I'm going to get this mod. It could make things interesting.
do you have that original ciri image from the thumbnail? looks so nice
oh I don't think so ;[
Intersting, I always had the option to talk to Kiera during funeral
what platform?
@@xLetalis pc gog
@@ukaszbiaek6641 same here and the option was never there during the funeral, only afterwards ;[
@@xLetalis :D
hello, there is a dialog whith eskel, that i am not very sure off, but it is ingraved in my memory, the thing is it is in the first verson if the game, in that dialog geralt and eskel are talking, and eskel say somthing about him wanting to restart making wichers, he sad that it is not gonna be like befor. when i apdated the game i didn't com acros that dialog, i an not so serten cuz it feels like no one know about this that i am daouting my memory, if it is somthing some one have come acros plz say somthin, and thanks for reading.
I'll take a look