Paladins of the West Kingdom - Playthrough & Review
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This is “Paladins of the West Kingdom," a board game designed by Shem Phillips & S J Macdonald, and published by Renegade Game Studios in 2019. This video includes a rules overview.
JUMP:
00:00 - Start
20:33 - Playthrough Begins
33:24 - Round 2
45:00 - Round 3
56:06 - Round 4
01:09:53 - Round 5
01:27:52 - Round 6
01:48:08 - Round 7
01:58:50 - End Game Scoring
02:04:02 - Review
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Have you tried Paladins of the West Kingdom? What are your thoughts on this title?
My favourite among the west kingdom trilogy! AP always hit us hard in this game but we really enjoy it. Each games feels different as we need different strategy to win depends on the king’s order.
We’ve only played Paladins and well, it was long. 4 players, 3 were new to the game including me. It was fun but I lost all cognitive ability by the third hour....
Yeah love the West kingdoms
My favorite of the three. Can't wait for the box and the expansion.
Love it. In my top3!
“It’s fun and we get to play it together.” - Naveen. That pretty much sums it up for me!
=)
That combo turn by Monique was incredible, neverending chaining of actions.
hahaha yesss! Reminded me of this one czcams.com/video/EBIsZlV1jHk/video.html
Any chance you have the time stamp?
@@markanderson100 I don’t think I do. But I might find it, later today I’ll scour through the video and see.
@@shinjial Oh, that's very kind, but you don't have to. I appreciate it, though, Andre!
I’m waiting for that time stamp!
1:46:17 Naveen's glance at the camera is when he knows all hope is lost. 😅
Spoiler! 😮
It's just too funny!
I was a West Kingdom virgin and kept seeing these games everywhere. I thought, Ok, what's up? Can they be that good? I watched your entire playthrough series, (this one last), and after this video said, I HAVE TO HAVE THIS GAME! I now own it and, while still scoring poorly, am having so much fun loosing to the AI. Thank you for your great videos. I feel they really help me to make more informed decisions about games to bring to my shelf. Keep up the great work!
Thank you so much for spending your time with us! So glad the video series was helpful for you. After all this time, Paladins is still both of our favorite from the West Kingdom series.
That 6. round... I really felt for Naveen.
I still feel it to this day! Hahahha
I love the combo of frustration and adoration in naveen's face - that's true love lol
All you can do is admire that round 6 combo masterclass from Monique, even if you're Naveen lol
I am so happy you guys are doing the West Kingdom series!
You guys are amazing and i truly enjoy watching your videos! 💙❤️
That 6th round was like the movie Beautiful Mind.
What a playthrough!!! Gosh I love this game. Monique, this round 6 was just crazy. Makes me want to go back to the game and rock and roll just like you did!
2 year old video and still my go to for a refresher! You guys are great.
That was an amazing playthrough. Loved every minute of it!
Monique's 6th round should be a textbook example of how to master the game. Very inspiring! :)
I've watched a number of videos either going over the rules in a detailed manner or just giving a simpler overview of play and have failed too grasp game play. You two are special. Watching your quick tutorial and playthrough has me finally (finally!) understanding the flow of play and game play goals.
Thank you so very much.
Wow! The shift of intensity from Architects to Paladins. Everything you expect from a sequel which this truly felt like one. Loving the series even more and can't wait for the finale and the wrap up! Cheers!
My favourite video yet by the two of you. That was so much fun to watch and cannot wait for my copy to arrive. Your play through was so informative that I should be able to jump straight in with little rule reading. Just love it well worth the wait.
In the meantime will make do with Architects & Viscounts + Tomesaga. So far Viscounts is our favourite and most played 👍🏻
Yayyyy!!!!! Been waiting for this!! Woot woot!
Thank you for following along with us as we play the different West Kingdom games!
Thanks for this series, I love it.
You guys are the best!! I'm working my way thru all your videos and I won't buy another game again until I've seen your play thru. Thanks a lot I really appreciate your videos! You have the best play thrus on the net. The only improvement I can suggest is an extra camera focused on showing the cards up close.
Awesome review and play through!!love this game and enjoying the tome saga. Did have issues at the start with the rules of the kings favours when I first played it.I have to go back and get architects as I went from raiders with both expansions to paladins and after watching your review I really like how the tome saga takes it to another level.Keep on giving us great content absolutely love your channel!!!,
I have to learn to stop coming here to watch your videos right after I place an order on the game, because gaaahd it makes me NEED it to arrive immediately so I get to play it! hahah
I discovered your channel recently, and I'm a fan already!
This has to be my favourite video from BUP. Keep it up guys. Cannot wait for Viscounts.
I’ve bought the entire west kingdom series with my recent board game splurge. Can’t wait to learn how to play viscounts next with my favorite boardgame CZcams channel :D
Just wanted to say thank you - we finally tried Paladins for the first time, and this video was so helpful!
Yes! It is here!
Really great video, thanks for making it! At 37:01 The Tax Stand has 1 Silver and Naveen needs to take 2. I believe in this situation the second Silver does NOT come from the bank. The Tax Stand refills, and the second Silver comes out of the newly refilled Tax Stand. That is my reading of the rules anyway. You guys seems to love this game as much as me! It's such a satisfying, combo driven, engine builder. Quite unique as well, no other game combines the mechanisms it has in such ways. Similarly no other channel displays the fun of playing games among good natured friends quite as well as you two do!
yay :) i was waiting for some video to watch on this pandemic friday night ahaha
Haha you got the sneak peak!!
I have just ordered this game and looking forward to getting it thank you for this video
Nice play through. Can't wait to see you guys take on Viscounts.
This game is SO GOOD!!!! The more you play the more you understand the nuances and strategies, and it's super satisfying when your plans come together.
So true! We are getting better and scoring better with each play. Can't wait to get it back to the table again.
I'm a big fan of Shem Phillips games, Shipwrights was the first game of his I played and feels like the games being put out from there just get better and better. The North Sea trilogy has the same sort of game combo expansion called 'Runesaga' and some great expansions for the Raiders and Explorers game in that series too. Paladins got to me in early Pandemic timing so I've not played it yet, its sitting next to Viscounts waiting for gaming to start again - hopefully next month in the UK. Great video series, discovered you via Watch it Played so I've been working through your back catalogue!
You guys are so cool. Thank you for your content>
There is always money in the tax stand, great play through, loving this series, can not wait for Viscounts as it is my favourite.
I loved the video, it was extremely well done! You guys played well, too.
One thing I noticed (and you mentioned it in the end, too), that you did a bit of a 'little of this, a little of that' during the early turns. Also, I think developing is more urgent (do it more in the beginning) so you need less workers to do things. The way I play, I barely do a spot that requires 3 workers, put one green house there at least.
You can't do everything, so concentrate - once you did 5 of the king's orders, you usually have the option to max it out, and you should, the points are there at the end of the line :).
An amazing game, one of my favorites for sure!
Keep up the good work, it is a joy watching you play and interact.
Monique, yes you did everything right in round 6-- very well done!
Just picked up this game and wanted to watch this to help me learn it and holy crap, Monique's sixth round. Legendary stuff.
I think this is the meatiest of the three. It’s super tough to optimize your plays, but it’s very satisfying when you pull it off. As a “gamer’s game” I like it best, even though I’ve never played a good game of it lol.
I think both of you did great.
Really nice video, thank you. I thought it was a good game but didn't feel it was as amazing as a lot of people think. I have only played it a couple of times though so I need to play a few more times, maybe then I will appreciate it a little more!
Great hearing your thoughts on this one! I love it but I'm also prettttyyyy bad at it. I just love the interconnectedness of the systems and fiddling with it all. Also the solo mode is REALLY hard lol
I ❤️ Paladins! My favorite in the series - and I ❤️ the series!!
Great playthrough again and I am very happy you love this one, as I love it, too!
I’d say the theme here is mostly in the game mechanics. For instance, you need green workers to hunt, who happen to be scouts, or blue workers to trade, who happen to be merchants. Red workers, or fighters, recruit, i.e. they go and gather those pesky town folk and put them to good work :) Meanwhile, black workers, or monks, pray, because this is what they do all day, right? Attacking requires scouts and fighters (so red and green), as well as labourers to cook and do all the menial work. Converting takes fighters and monks, as the way outsiders were converted back then was to give them an offer they couldn’t refuse ...
I know, it’s not very obvious, but it’s still there. You also have the mighty paladins that arrive with their entourage (i.e. additional workers). You pay money to absolve your sins, which is what the church did back then, selling indulgences to the wealthy in exchange for closing their eyes - which is why you need traders to connect you to the church, and you need to be somebody important to be even allowed to that, hence the influence requirement. It goes on, but the game has a lot more in theme than it might appear at first glance.
Anyway, the game is indeed great and I love the challenge it poses. By the way, the rules say outright that you start developing from left to right spaces, but as you noted, it wouldn’t make sense to do it otherwise. I was also very impressed with Monique’s sixth round, though sometimes you do have everything aligned perfectly for you. What I love is that even if you get lucky with your cards and benefits, it still requires planning to get the maximum.
By the way, the solo variant is not bad, though the bot is a little bit random. Yet, designing solo rules is not easy, and I feel we all have been spoiled with the tough nut that Root’s bots are :) I am increasingly leaning towards getting the two other games (I own only Paladins), along with the Tome Saga, it looks a lot of fun. One more thing - regarding components, I believe it should be mentioned how tiny Paladins’ box is, given how much table space is needed for play. I always appreciate efficient packaging and this one is one of the best. Are the boxes for the two other games similar?
I know this reply is late but i think all west kingdom games have this compact packaging. I own viscounts and it also has a fairly small box which i like.
Well I did it again, watched the whole thing lol. I must say you guys are really good at playthroughs, I normally enjoy other people doing them but you explain everything and narrate in a way that keeps me engaged. Paladins looks great, I’m definitely going to pick this up with Architects some time in the near future. Do you have Amazon associate links for these so you can get a kick back for selling me on these games?
Really looking forward to viscounts! Haven't tried Paladins myself, but I'm waiting eagerly on the latest expansion kickstarter to arrive (november...)
It's my favourite of the trilogy, and one of my favourite games period. I'm very excited for the expansion. I wouldn't recommend it at 4 though unless all the players are experienced at the game, aren't prone to AP, and are okay with a longer game. It can get very long at higher player counts.
Love Paladins! My play group plays with a small house rule because we don’t like the type of variance they went with on the wall cards. We play it that when you fortify, you draw two wall cards, then play one and bottom the other. It wouldn’t be an issue for us if the wall cards were more balanced, but the fact that some are literally strictly better than others regardless of circumstance is kind of unforgivable in an otherwise perfectly crunchy euro.
I actually played this game Solo and I had a blast. Looking forward to play Architects and the Tomesage!
Great play through! Very excited to play this one... quick question, can you please tell me how to find the scoring app you use at the end? It looks really helpful. Apologies if you already posted this somewhere but my google search turned up lacking.
This game is crayzee good! 🤪 It is my top game so far that I’ve ever played. Soo good that I backed the City of Crowns expansion on Kickstarter. My first ever KS! I’ve only played it solo but it was enough to win me over.
This is a really fun series. I like the play through of all 3 games and the combination of teach and play.
I love this game
I really love this one, mostly play at 2. I do feel like, even with the new spaces opening up for commissions and garrisons, it is harder at 4 in terms of recruiting or attacking/converting. Perhaps we've all aligned in 4 player mode but it's been a lot harder to recruit workers and get as many attacks/converts in, in a 4 player game. Definitely not a problem, makes for more tension about what other people will do from my perspective.
The coop of paladins is challenging. The Kickstarter version has you drawing 4 paladins with the extra one being discarded from the game. Good game.
Yeeees been waiting for this one damn this trilogie is a fun idea . Friends bought the aechitects i went crazy and told me and my wife would buy paladins and maybe steal vicounts from somewhere :D
1:00:50: Part of me hoped Naveen would claim that specific tome, since he claimed a similar tome in the prior game. Though considering how close the final tome score is, it's probably for the best that she grabbed that one first...
1:54:35: I believe this is also how you improve your credit score.
Interestingly, while Paladins is described as a game where you're protecting your city from outsiders, the outsiders don't seem to have any ability to affect the city (at least, not as far as the game is concerned). Are the titular paladins so insulated from the common people that they don't notice any effects from the ongoing war, or are their concerns about the outsiders simply unfounded?
Thanks for the play through. Th app to help calculate final score, where can I find it? I didn’t see a link in the notes.
I would like to see you play Paladins with the Tomesaga expansion.
Yayyyyyy!
=]
Wow, 92 points. And I felt great winning with 60 points the other day. Crazy
Paladins is my favourite part of the series, because it is so good with just two players. Then Viscounts is 2nd. Architects is just OK now.
We are debating which one is our favorite, all three have been so enjoyable for us both.
We love this game. We actually love the entire WK trilogy.
I have a question and it’s not meant to be disrespectful or mean but I couldn’t help but notice that you both sound different in this video? The only way to describe it is that you both sound like your are getting used to a new retainer. Are you guys using new Invisalign or something? Sorry if I’m way off. I love your guys content.
Great, i played it today and won!
For me Architekts is the best 3-4 Player, but Palladins is better for 2.
Viscounts i never played ☹️
1:44:34 Yeah, Naveen, me too...
She's too good!
At 1:54:22 doesn't Monique need 11 red to place her Garrison piece there?
I thought the scroll tile between player boards is cigars and its case... 😂😂😂😂😂
This playthrough is a good example of why this game is actually interactive. Naveene didn't compete for any of the slots in the main board and Monique was able to flip all her debts and win the game just from it. I think the passive incentive to pass first was actually bad for Naveene
Hi, add it at the playlist "West Kingdom Mini Series" thx
18:15 it is one silver not 2 I believe, if in the example you mentioned 7 strength
How does it compare to Lacerda games or other heavier games.
My favorite of the 3 but Viscounts is slowly creeping up. I usually solo. The fact that you can play against 4 differently focused AI might kick this one up a notch. I was really impressed with the way the AI worked in this. I think you will enjoy Viscounts. Looking forward to the next video of the series.
How do you rank them now?
@@craigandrews7544 Paladins is still #1 followed by Viscounts and then Architects. The last expansion made Architects better but still not on par with the others
I'm still having a hard time deciding do I like it more than Orleans. This must be the hardest choice for me when comparing two games.
On one side Paladins are has such a confusing iconography and explaining the game is not that easy, even though the gameplay is not that complicated. On the other hand I like how Paladins have more control on "bag building" mechanism. That's the biggest issue I have with Orleans, lack of control.
So all in all, I have both games in the collection xD
I've only played Paladins once but I didn't see anything in the game to make me choose it over Orleans (one of my favorites). Am I crazy? I actually like the ambiguity of worker availability in Orleans, whereas in Paladins it feels relatively static to me.
There are a few similarities. But I prefer Paladins over Orleans because of the worker drafting.
Both are great games, I've only played Orleans once several years back. I definitely would like to get it to the table again now so I could compare and contrast the 2.
Hi ! Nice play through! What’s the scoring app name? Thank you!
Search “Garphill Games”
Whats the name of the app used for scoring?
1:01:31 I think Naveen forgot to pay a provision for his fortify action?
Also at 1:40:25 I think Monique should have put that converted card in the tableau at the bottom of her board, instead of with the other defeated cards.
Scratch that, they fixed it at 1:48:40 :)
whats the name of the app for scoring? And is it on apple apps?
I really like this game according to what I see but I fear that it is too long. Does anyone know how much time (more or less) it will take for 2 players once they played it a couple of times??
What would West Kingdom trilogy be categorised? It kinda has some elements of Legacy style games where items carry over to the next game, but it's not a true Legacy where there is a sense of permanence to these carry over pieces.
1:01:35 don't you have to pay a provision to build that wall? just asking :p
What’s the name of the scoring app?
I would like to know as well
What was the scoring app you used?
Probably Garphill Games Companion
@@Chereebers thanks I’ll take a look 😊
those attributes on the paladins card for example:" blue 2, and black 3" beneath the workers, what or when are you using that for?
They are the base value for some of the things you will be able to do on your turn. Hope that helps!
@@BeforeYouPlay so basically it boosts your 3 main markers on the left for that turn? (faith, strenght, influence)
I might be going against the grain here, but my wife and I bounced off this HARD. It just has too many little subsystems. Even choosing your paladin cards, you're comparing 1) their stats, 2) the meeples they give you and 3) their special ability. And there are so many little decks of cards along a narrow board, it takes up a ton of table space. That's not to mention the complete lack of player interaction - it the best euros, (even Ticket to Ride!) you care about what other people do on their turns. If I'm thinking this hard, I want some magic. The euros I prefer, roughly organized from heavy to light:
Brass
Troyes
Village with the Inn and Port expansions
Hansa Teutonica
Concordia
Istanbul
Kingsburg
Can you use the artisans in the Tomb Saga for architects
Yes, all expansions work with Tome saga
Hi there, I believe so!
Haven't finished watching the video yet, so this might be addressed later, but I see that Naveen already twice missed the opportunity of using the green card revealed on round 3. This would have give more money than the actions he took, and he would have got rid of suspicion too.
Is this the normal length of playtime for a two player game?
I guess I’m still confused about the Workshops you played on the right side from the Develop. Do those workshops get discard at the end of the round when you clear all your workers? 😐
Hi! No, the workshops stay on your board for the duration of the game, making those locations cheaper in workers. Is there a specific spot in the video where you had some questions? Thanks!
@@BeforeYouPlay thank you so much! You guys did it right 😁
Naveen my man... Do you want to talk about it? 😂😂
I want to get into board games, no sure what to pick up first.
Im a solo player. If you want to look into solo play that is pretty easy, try mansions of madness. It’s super fun but there is definitely luck involved. Personally, i love lovecraftian theme.
I’d recommend Camel Up as a very easy and fun intro game
"Azul" is a game we would suggest! Plays in about 30 minutes, doesn't have a ton of rules, and in our opinion has a lot of fun factor.
@@BeforeYouPlay thanks guys, I've looked it up and it's seems that I will be grabbing that first.
@@jessyjkn No sure about solo play at the moment.
Does the expansion work with the tomb Saga anyone know
We think so! We plan on doing the expansion as well.
Yes it does.
So I just bought Viscount of the West Kingdoms and played a solo play through again a manuscript AI. And got ABSOLUTELY crushed... I lost 120 to 77 assuming I did the AI correct. Would have been close, but the AI had 4x manuscripts sets which was RIP
Wow awesome game i love it. My mom always say że zostane nobody :( do you tak same myślisz???
Great game but i think its a little time consuming more then any other game. And you edited this video so its actually 1 hour more full gameplay. But its great mechanic and brain frying I love that wheel that make you think all the time about what to do and not utilize max paladin skill.
Spoilers
Year of Naveen? Maybe just the Q1 of Naveen