Portable Wind Turbine Review: Cutting Edge Power 15 watt micro wind generator - initial impressions

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    For both polar expedition and Alan the lifeboat applications, wind power can be exceedingly useful. Here I test a promisingly specced portable wind turbine from Cutting Edge Power, based in Texas, USA. It provides up to 15 watts of power via either USB or a 12V link up. It's substantially 3D printed, and you'll see my initial impressions.
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Komentáře • 174

  • @SD-unlimited
    @SD-unlimited Před rokem +26

    If nothing else, their Sales Prevention Department is doing a cracking job.

  • @gregepp3082
    @gregepp3082 Před rokem +77

    Hey Alex, In my humble opinion I wouldn't waste another minute of your time on a product with so many obvious defects. You "can't polish a turd" It seems likely this is a basement business run by a small group of people with a 3D printer. Their aim seems to be only to build an entry-level product to meet a standard only high enough to take your money and not much else. It however sheds some light on how truly difficult it is to build high-quality products at low prices.

  • @yootoob7048
    @yootoob7048 Před rokem +6

    Alex, I would not count on the "Salesman of the Year" award at this year's company Christmas party.

  • @mrnips101
    @mrnips101 Před rokem +36

    It might be worth trying to find out what temperature resistance the 3d filament they use to print with has. Last thing you want is a snapped blade due to it being extremely fragile when cold.

    • @AlexHibbertOriginals
      @AlexHibbertOriginals  Před rokem +8

      PET, so ok in the cold.

    • @stefanbrecher364
      @stefanbrecher364 Před rokem +1

      Ultem 9085 is a much stronger filament that can we well used for flow surfaces applications. It has very impressive temperature resistance and exhibits low deformation in its tensile strength (meaning blades are less likely to deform at higher rpm). The stratasys website has a good ultem 9085 spec sheet and can print one off and custom parts.

    • @jgriff3218
      @jgriff3218 Před rokem

      This why the kit has a two blade setup. When they break just downgrade to the two blades

  • @namesake-mx9nl
    @namesake-mx9nl Před rokem +17

    The company who supplied you obviously never expected their product to go through such a rigorous examination as you carried out , especially not to the extent that you were going to weigh each blade . Very impressive . Maybe now they will bend over backwards to do everything possible to replace the product with something similar , but far more superior .

    • @AlexHibbertOriginals
      @AlexHibbertOriginals  Před rokem +14

      Probably more likely they block my email address.

    • @HMPirates
      @HMPirates Před rokem +4

      @@AlexHibbertOriginals you can easily balance these blades by following the method used by model airplane hobbyists. But, looking at the product I have zero confidence in it.Tthey just slapped some off the shelf components together inside a horribly printed case. Not much thought has gone into the printing orientation/assembly, even if the plastic material survives, the print may delaminate.

  • @freespam9236
    @freespam9236 Před rokem +13

    this looks like some University prototype form some workshop class... and even then as part of testing they would make it better...

    • @AlexHibbertOriginals
      @AlexHibbertOriginals  Před rokem +6

      I've tried to look beyond the aesthetics (goodness knows I need to with some of my own builds), and was optimistic about the purpose-made motor for the specific RPMs and the adaptable DC output. But yes, a commercial product shouldn't need this much tinkering.

    • @ffoska
      @ffoska Před rokem

      I bet you that the housing is ordinary PLA that will melt at 60deg, and get degraded by UV. The other parts seem PETG or just awfully printed ABS. The blade geometry is wrong it looks more like a fan than a turbine. This thing is a startup scam.
      This kind of stuff wouldn't even fly as a university prototype. Good job. Name and shame the scammers.

    • @callumkingunderwood
      @callumkingunderwood Před rokem +2

      @@AlexHibbertOriginals that doesnt even look like a purpose made motor either unfortunately. Looks like whatever brushed DC motor they were able to bulk buy on aliexpress that had a vaguely correct voltage to rpm rating.

  • @grosgogtjopie817
    @grosgogtjopie817 Před rokem +6

    I can only Imagine that retrofitting some model aircraft propeller blades would be worth the effort. They would be much lighter, stronger and balanced a lot better. I would imagine a 3blade design would work like a charm. You can also buy different pitch angels to work more efficiently different wind conditions.

  • @mikelarin8037
    @mikelarin8037 Před rokem +24

    Coming from rc airplanes and dealing with badly balanced propellers. for balancing theres 2 techniques we use. Quick fix is strips of tape on the light blade and move it around to find the perfect balance. But I would grab some sand paper and go at the heavy blades down to the weight of the light blade Instead of additive balancing. it would also smooth out the horrible surface finish and maybe help it function better in the first place.
    I've been looking for something similar for my camper van in the winters and find every option unacceptable like you, either barely capable of charging a phone or it costs as much as the van.
    Oh and honestly their customer service can get bent with that attitude.

    • @AlexHibbertOriginals
      @AlexHibbertOriginals  Před rokem +7

      Interestingly, they claim the ridged finish on the blades as an intentional feature for airflow. Thanks for the blade editing tips.

    • @5Stringslinger
      @5Stringslinger Před rokem +13

      @@AlexHibbertOriginals Yeah, that's marketing BS. Bad printing, that's all it is. :(

    • @glennmagnus854
      @glennmagnus854 Před rokem +8

      @@AlexHibbertOriginals I used to work with military drones, a field expedient way of refinishing and balancing propellers was to coat them in epoxy. Adding more coats to the lighter side until it was balanced then polishing smooth. I don't know if that would work of plastic blades because of the flex.

    • @Obvsaninternetexpert
      @Obvsaninternetexpert Před rokem

      @@AlexHibbertOriginals i will bet you every penny in my bank account that thing is going to shit itself.... those blades are a disgrace ..... bin it before it at best lets you down when you need it.... or one of those blades becomes lodged in your face when it flys apart
      just my 2 cents

  • @pauldalkin2573
    @pauldalkin2573 Před rokem +17

    As a hobbyist 3d printer, the standard of print quality is shocking. They've literally had it set at the lowest quality print they can. Those blades are likely just going to snap at one of the layers. Cant believe a "company" would send out a product like that.

    • @xeddtech
      @xeddtech Před rokem +1

      Couldn't agree more. They definitely had it on speed mode instead of quality mode. Wouldn't surprise me if they used cheapo bulk PLA from china also

  • @joeldriver381
    @joeldriver381 Před rokem +13

    I have been 3D printing for years and make mostly functional parts. That did not look like professional work, even if it is a more difficult to print engineering material. Large blades are available in the hobby market and much better brushless motors with way better magnets. You would need a 3 phase rectifier but that is easy. A better unit could be made with minimal engineering. Is there a real market for these? Oh- 10% is a huge difference. I suspect they were printed with completely different configs.

    • @5Stringslinger
      @5Stringslinger Před rokem +1

      No, there's no marked. They make a good noise, have to have VERY low tolerances or they will be even louder or introduce vibration. And they get less effective the smaller they are.
      Even if someone makes them very light, it's just not worth it to carry around to maybe charge your phone but not much else.

  • @dw4956
    @dw4956 Před rokem +8

    I would sent it back to Yankeeland and go for the extra two kilo's (thats two rocks 1/16 gopher)
    Its better to remove some material from the blades if you keep it, epoxy resin does not stick to plastic.

    • @AlexHibbertOriginals
      @AlexHibbertOriginals  Před rokem +1

      I'm trying to find out what plastic it is. Some plastics can be bonded with epoxy very well - e.g. already cured resin/gelcoat.

    • @yuriykovalov2936
      @yuriykovalov2936 Před rokem +1

      It depends on the type of epoxy. But I agree, to balance the propeller, material needs to be removed from the blades and not added.

    • @AlexHibbertOriginals
      @AlexHibbertOriginals  Před rokem +1

      Would you shave consistently from one edge or another, or from the end (doubting this)?

    • @yuriykovalov2936
      @yuriykovalov2936 Před rokem +1

      @Alex Hibbert Originals chech out my other comment about the propeller balancing. If you are willing to take the time, you can suspend one end of the blade by a string (may have to come up with a clever fixture for the tip) and use the scale on the other end. And flip it around and weight the tip and suspend the base. This will give you a good idea where most of your mass is and where to remove material from.
      Similar process is used when trying to balance out engine connecting rods.

    • @dw4956
      @dw4956 Před rokem +1

      @@AlexHibbertOriginals I would measure the length of the blades to check if the inconsistency is in the lenght. if not, you should reduce material at the strongest point, at the base between the mounting holes. Don't thin out the whole surface, just take an 8mm drill bit and start drilling a hole first. like they do in balancing a flywheel You can only take away the static imbalance this way. The dynamic imbalance is somewhat harder to do.

  • @michaelcalise6111
    @michaelcalise6111 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for that review.It was very helpful in my search.

  • @nullinterface2077
    @nullinterface2077 Před rokem +3

    The moment I realized that the entirety of the mechanical components were coarsely 3D printed, I despaired

    • @ptonpc
      @ptonpc Před rokem

      That motor /generator looked like a bargain bin Chinese bit of garbage. If it was a quality brand, they would be happy to say so. I would not trust it even if the casing was nicer.

  • @nickg421
    @nickg421 Před rokem +8

    You paid for that thing??? With money???

  • @kst357
    @kst357 Před rokem +1

    Look up videos on blade balancing. The value of balancing your rotating assembly can't be understated. A properly balanced blade will work more efficiently, cause less vibration, and extend the life of the bearings. Whenever I sharpen my lawnmower blade I check its balance. You could rig a lawnmower blade balancing tool to use to balance your windmill blades. They're very inexpensive tools. Anyway, I'm happy to see you adding wind power to Alan. I prefer axial generators over blade driven units but anything is better than nothing. Axial driven windmills don't need a vane, don't need to rotate as wind direction changes, and are safer to be around. Because you'll be in extreme conditions you'll need to have a good braking system so that it doesn't spin itself to pieces during a gale.

  • @christiangonzaga6750
    @christiangonzaga6750 Před rokem

    Great review! Good to know about the rotten customer support. Definetly changed my mind on purchasing this item. Thanks again.

  • @pjnealon3476
    @pjnealon3476 Před 10 měsíci

    Thanks for the video. I am thinking of buying a wind turbine and this video is extremely helpful.

  • @landsil_
    @landsil_ Před rokem +2

    I've seen good reviews of WindLily, It's an attachment to their WaterLily water turbine. Whole kit is 2.4kg.

  • @FloridaWinter
    @FloridaWinter Před rokem

    “This completely not suspicious looking scale” 😂 I feel ya.

  • @matthewwakeham2206
    @matthewwakeham2206 Před rokem +1

    You could make a jig that uses the fixing holes of the blades as as pivot and then measure the weight of the blade via the tip or a measured contact point.
    The assembled prop can be assessed using a lawnmower blade balancer which is like a stepped cone that balances on a spike.

  • @yuriykovalov2936
    @yuriykovalov2936 Před rokem +3

    As someone pointed out, check what type of plastic was used to make this........ device. as some plastics may become brittle in the cold temperature or deform under the sun.
    You could infuse the blades with 60 min laminating epoxy, but that's a lot of work and would make it very heavy. Also, you would have to remove material to match your lightest blade.
    As for balancing the propeller. For airplane models, we use du-bro true-spin prop balancer. It may or may not work for your application. But at least it will give you some ideas 💡 🙂

    • @AlexHibbertOriginals
      @AlexHibbertOriginals  Před rokem +2

      It's PET apparently, so temperature-safe within my bounds. Thanks for the blade adjustment advice.

  • @whisperzzar3321
    @whisperzzar3321 Před rokem +4

    How in the 9 hells do 5 3d printed identical prop blades all have differing weights... thats insane.

    • @Jehty_
      @Jehty_ Před rokem +1

      Probably printed on 3 different printers do to time constraints 🤷‍♀

  • @eviemoody
    @eviemoody Před rokem +6

    I use a marine wind turbine to supplement power on my live aboard boat. They’re a good option in general but in my opinion the version you bought has way too many problems to be effective, even with your extensive mods. The roughness of the blades will affect airflow and efficiency. The lack of balance will result in mechanical failure, potentially dangerously. Also, that 15 watt rated power is ambitious at best. Wind turbines produce a rather disappointing amount of power under the best circumstances. Also, that company’s customer service is unforgivable. Thank you for making a video on it. I’ll certainly not be giving them my money. I really do enjoy your videos.

    • @teeanahera8949
      @teeanahera8949 Před rokem

      Remember the turbine is not for a boat, it needs to be an ultra lightweight method of producing power while ski touring in the extremely high latitudes.

    • @ptonpc
      @ptonpc Před rokem +1

      @@teeanahera8949 He might be better going for metal blades, thinner but stronger. But definitely not using that turbine in any event.

  • @laupit
    @laupit Před rokem +1

    Maybe you could ask a company such as Mejzlik to custom manufacture some properly balanced carbon blades for the thing?

  • @slartythecyclops4643
    @slartythecyclops4643 Před rokem +1

    I'm sure at this point in this epic journey into making 'the Alan' as brilliant as a Thunderbird, investing in your own 3d printer may be a valid on-board necessity to help with random repairs as well as just making your own shiz to your own spec far easier. yes a bit iffy in high seas, but having something that could replace a broken locking nut on the fly would be a game changer imop, or keep ordering cheap faking tat off the interwebs & pray! Which would be counter to the perfectionist (Anglegrinder) type person you portray 🙂 either way I thank you for a fun, if brief upgrade update & hope it don't catch fire before the end.👍

  • @Space_Reptile
    @Space_Reptile Před rokem +4

    for the price i expected it to be injection molded, not 3d printed, and man that print quality does not look great
    and as others have commented, i do hope they printed in something that can take the low temperatures as it would otherwise delaminate itself and fall to pieces in the cold as it shrinks too much

    • @AlexHibbertOriginals
      @AlexHibbertOriginals  Před rokem +1

      PET apparently

    • @Space_Reptile
      @Space_Reptile Před rokem +1

      @@AlexHibbertOriginals okay PET is safe for both UV and extreme temperature changes, so they though of that

    • @ffoska
      @ffoska Před rokem +1

      @@Space_Reptile The housing does not look like PET though, It's PLA IMH.

  • @keithc904
    @keithc904 Před rokem +33

    Wow, 3d printing is great for rapid development but a god awful manufacturing process, and unforgivable when molding is not hard to do once you have the design locked down, good on them for trying but you cant go to market with such a poor product, once bad reviews get out, you have poisoned the well, and regaining trust is hard.

    • @zweiblali3410
      @zweiblali3410 Před rokem +4

      They probably don't have or don't want to spend the money to get proper injection molds made. Or they started creating molds and didn't want to wait for them and started selling early. But I agree 3d printing is a very bad idea for mass manufacturing such a product.

    • @5Stringslinger
      @5Stringslinger Před rokem +8

      The Video and everything else shows: They are bad amateurs.
      Yes, you can print the housing and even the blades for engineering. But the next step has to be injection molding. Yes, the molds will cost a buck but 1: you gonna need a lot of blades anyways; 2: You get a usable surface finish right away.
      Just the blades man... you need a few hundred right from the start. And they are printing them...

    • @neipamocal
      @neipamocal Před rokem +4

      You can get some fantastic 3d prints if you spend the money but these are absolute trash.

    • @5Stringslinger
      @5Stringslinger Před rokem +2

      @@neipamocal they are printing Warhammer 40k figures, these days.
      But the blades and housing looking like stuff that was done on 5 year old machines.

    • @neipamocal
      @neipamocal Před rokem +4

      @@5Stringslinger Yeah I print a lot of stuff in resin and fdm these prints are absolute trash the company that sold them should be embarrassed.

  • @tyskStefan
    @tyskStefan Před rokem +11

    Wow, I did not expect there to be so few options in smaller, light wind generators. The quality looks appalling and FDM 3D-Printing has no business in commercially sold products to be quite frank. Imbalances due to weight differences and the manufacturing tolerances are far to great as you noticed.
    As someone has mentioned already this looks way more than a prototype - and even that is no excuse for some of the other design choices made here.

    • @HeathLedgersChemist
      @HeathLedgersChemist Před rokem

      Love the Argument From Ignorance.
      FDM products are perfectly suitable for a number of applications in 'commercially sold products' - I have sold many FDM printed products, never had a single complaint. Some examples are toothbrush holders, military themed Scotch bottle holders, bolt & nuts covers for domestic lifts.
      The thing you seem to fail to realise is that there are literally thousands of materials suited to 'commercial use', but they all have specific use cases. For example, concrete is used throughout the world commercially, but you wouldn't build a small wind generator from it. Do you see the point?

  • @lesallison9047
    @lesallison9047 Před rokem +2

    That looks pretty rough to me, I don't think I would want to rely on it somewhere remote.

  • @SailingWithDave
    @SailingWithDave Před rokem

    Hi Alex, Nice video, thank-you. Definitely a gap in the market though for something like this. I for one would love a super small turbine for my dinghy as the solar panel is just not reliable in the UK sun!!
    From my experience of 3D printing I can tell you the quality of those items is pretty poor. Even compared to my Ultimaker 3 machine, which is largely for prototyping, these remind me of machine quality we had at the dawn of 3D printing when all 3D printers were made from laser cut plywood panels!!! reason
    However what many people forget is that there's always a gap in the market for quality and decent service/support!!...to that this is nicely demonstrated!!!
    Happy boating!

  • @VanskyAlleria
    @VanskyAlleria Před rokem +1

    It almost seems like taking some of the internals and then creating your own enclosure and even making your own blades would end up with a better made product.

  • @lancesmit1021
    @lancesmit1021 Před rokem +1

    That company needs to go down!

  • @RocinanteGold
    @RocinanteGold Před rokem

    I would suspect that their inconsistent, 3-D printed blades are likely not even close to an optimal airfoil shape.. which means that you could probably fabricate your own blades and hub plate from carbon fiber and achieve equal or better performance for less weight. I'd also mount the unit on a lightweight camera tripod, or carry some paracord and tent stakes to set up guy wires to stabilize the pole.
    If you plan to pack this with the blades off, then definitely balance the assembly before you go, number each blade and it's spot on the hub so you can reassemble it in the same configuration as needed.

  • @stevehardyuk
    @stevehardyuk Před rokem +2

    Alex
    When are you off to Canada?

  • @versatec1
    @versatec1 Před rokem +2

    It seems these days a lot of things I buy I end up having to modify, often making it a better product...I think I would have made a good design engineer and shake my.head at how woefully lacking R&D can be. 😨

  • @sgtbrown4273
    @sgtbrown4273 Před měsícem

    Good day, yeah late post but.....I work in the Antarctic as a winter over and from my experience on wind turbines this construction and generator design is hilarious at best and possibly criminal. You very much may need to put your life in the hands of your gear buy accordantly.

  • @af1023
    @af1023 Před 8 měsíci

    The Cutting Edge Power company out of Houston Texas appears to be out of business.
    I was about to buy one of their systems and found out that they were gone.

  • @MCallsen
    @MCallsen Před rokem +2

    A slight "not amused" undertone is hard to miss. Understandably. I like the unit you have in storage there. Do you have a link?

    • @AlexHibbertOriginals
      @AlexHibbertOriginals  Před rokem +2

      www.vanguardstorage.co.uk/ (disclosure - they provide my storage free of charge)

    • @Jehty_
      @Jehty_ Před rokem +1

      I am amazed by his cool.
      If I would have made this video it probably wouldn't be PG.

    • @alttabby3633
      @alttabby3633 Před rokem +2

      @@AlexHibbertOriginals Haha, I think they were asking for a link to the turbine in storage not the storage unit.

    • @AlexHibbertOriginals
      @AlexHibbertOriginals  Před rokem +4

      My bad! (or was it....) www.marlec.co.uk/product/12v-rutland-504-windcharger/

    • @MCallsen
      @MCallsen Před rokem +1

      @@AlexHibbertOriginals 🤣

  • @petesmith13
    @petesmith13 Před rokem +1

    Mate you easily have the skills and/or know people (like the guy who built you the sleds) who can make a far better carbon fibre version of this that will be much more suitable given the conditions you're likely to use it in

  • @ryanpalmer990
    @ryanpalmer990 Před rokem

    I bought one back in 2018, unfortunately when I installed it, some light weight wire floated up into the blades when it was spinning and the entire thing destroyed itself. It’s one thing to snap a blade, but the entire unit destroyed?

  • @martint1151
    @martint1151 Před rokem +1

    I purchased one a few years ago and was very disappointed, could get no juice out of it. Tested with a power drill and reckon you would need to have blades rotating over 4000 rpm to produce less then stated 15 Watts.
    With delivery and customs charges was an expensive failure.

  • @spency787
    @spency787 Před rokem +1

    At least with an IP68 rating you know that it will still be generating power after you have chucked it overboard in frustration 👍

    • @ptonpc
      @ptonpc Před rokem +1

      Of course there's nothing to say it really is IP68, more likely it's just been someone in the marketing dept who thought the numbers looked pretty.

  • @Attoparsec
    @Attoparsec Před rokem +2

    That thing wouldn't even survive a Burning Man, much less an arctic expedition!

  • @Aplumber
    @Aplumber Před rokem +1

    Love all of your content, but would have loved to see A bit more grinding. Maybe you could have ground all of the propeller blades to a uniform size - just an idea
    Onto my larger concern, the first one is the fact that you may have hurt a 16-year-old kid building this in his garage by your hard review… children are soft here in America 😂 Or you’ve just enraged some doomsday prepper living in a bunker in the middle of Nebraska. If that’s the case, I wouldn’t go to Nebraska for a while😅

  • @robdavy4468
    @robdavy4468 Před rokem +2

    That customer service experience is shocking!
    Also, why are they making their own blades? They're available for pennies in every size conceivable, injection molded, etc. Madness that they're 3d printing such a commodity item.
    But then again, they're 3d printing a spanner, so I guess when all you have is a hammer...

  • @brochman8307
    @brochman8307 Před rokem

    So How did it work out or did it not work on your expedition? I fixed the blades with marine grade bolts, washers and locknuts and it rotates fine generating power into my portable power station. Thanks

    • @AlexHibbertOriginals
      @AlexHibbertOriginals  Před rokem

      We went with solar, as the Rutland was too heavy and these units (even the replacement) not good enough. You may have got lucky with balanced blades.

  • @joe7004
    @joe7004 Před rokem

    😎👀🤔💭 very thorough review thank you👌👍👋✌🏻

  • @tonhaodapadaria4011
    @tonhaodapadaria4011 Před rokem +1

    😎

  • @TimoNoko
    @TimoNoko Před rokem +4

    Sorry son. That sucks to high heaven. Either you have massive gear-box or massive 50-pole generator, which both are heavy and expensive. You just cannot get enough RPM from some 2 pole motor/generator. They obviously tried to tilt those generator blades for maximum speed. And it does work some but only in very high winds...
    As it happens, I made 30 years ago a similar wind generator from bicycle dynamo and if the wind was good, it produced 3 watts all night long, which was much better than solar panels in Finnmark. It also had high speed blades connected directly as this design....
    If I was to do this again, I would consider those modern bicycle hub generators, they have multipoles or gearboxes because bicycle hubs turn so slowly. They are also sturdy and waterproof.

    • @AlexHibbertOriginals
      @AlexHibbertOriginals  Před rokem +3

      To be fair to the company, their website specially states that the motor is built to operate at the RPMs that the blades will deliver. It's not just a random off-the-shelf brushed motor. I was getting a pretty good current even below 10mph wind.

  • @brownass2
    @brownass2 Před rokem +8

    That looks janky as hell and I wouldn't trust those seals around the spindle either.

    • @AlexHibbertOriginals
      @AlexHibbertOriginals  Před rokem +3

      Luckily the Arctic is very dry in winter.

    • @brownass2
      @brownass2 Před rokem +2

      @@AlexHibbertOriginals I'm obviously not an expert like yourself but wouldn't you have issues with the all the loose snow blowing around finding it's way into small gaps around the generator? Then possibly melting due to the heat given off from it spinning?

  • @whydontyouhandledeez
    @whydontyouhandledeez Před rokem +2

    I have a college buddy who bought a 3D printer because "why not" and only used it to make like 20 things before it ended up in the closet forever and even he could make stuff with a way higher level of polish than this lmao.

  • @mlydick
    @mlydick Před rokem

    Does anyone have a link to the other generator he mentions that was running smoothly, the "Rutland?"

  • @MaxMakerChannel
    @MaxMakerChannel Před rokem +2

    Everything about this tells me its a gimmick. 3D printing does not hold up in the weather. It warps when it gets hot and water can freely flow through the laminate.

    • @AlexHibbertOriginals
      @AlexHibbertOriginals  Před rokem +1

      Is this the case even with PET plastic? It has good temperature characteristics and isn't much of a moisture absorber.

  • @Dr.Gunsmith
    @Dr.Gunsmith Před rokem +1

    They called cutting edge for a reason, you lose ya fingers on the ruff unfinished edges 😂

  • @joemama.556
    @joemama.556 Před rokem +3

    my advice would be: make moulds of every plastic part and make it yourself in carbon/glass fiber. that turbine is not ok even for prototyping purposes, too much flex on all that plastic and it will probably loose eficiency and will beat itself to death due to vibrations and unbalance..

    • @ffoska
      @ffoska Před rokem +2

      Just throw it away, and get some reputable people to design something. Lots of makers have plans for this type of stuff. I can tell by the looks of the blades that the geometry is way off... this is a straight up startup scam.

    • @joemama.556
      @joemama.556 Před rokem +1

      @@ffoska agreed, maybe the electronics are usable for a properly built turbine, even with a gearbox

  • @oscodains
    @oscodains Před rokem +1

    This seems like a prototype rather than a complete product.

  • @FrankSchuster-bc1pe
    @FrankSchuster-bc1pe Před 8 měsíci

    What 15 watts, if I put one finger in the north sea I got one watt

  • @Jehty_
    @Jehty_ Před rokem +4

    I wonder if it wouldn't be better to DIY a turbine instead of trying to fix this crap.
    I would use the motor (if that´s any good) and scrap the rest.
    Buying new blades is probably cheaper than trying to fix theirs.
    Then the huge plastic housing around the motor. Since weight matters for you, do you really need such a bulky (and probably heavy) housing?
    I would think that with a bit of tinkering you could come up with a much better, sturdier and lighter design.
    And bonus: You trying to DIY a turbine would make for a few interesting videos :)

    • @AlexHibbertOriginals
      @AlexHibbertOriginals  Před rokem +2

      If only I didn't have a dozen complex builds on the go already 🤣 I wanted something that worked straight off the shelf.

  • @steveo601
    @steveo601 Před rokem +1

    Wow. What a turdasoraus Rex. That sucker’s gonna burst into flames at 25 rpm😆😆😆😆

  • @nickframe6743
    @nickframe6743 Před rokem +2

    There is absolutely NO excuse for such awful responses from their “Customer Service”. I’m outraged and I’m just watching your video - the fact that you are persevering says way more about you than them! Hope you can make it work, because they don’t appear to want to. 🤷‍♂️

  • @wifiguy_nz
    @wifiguy_nz Před rokem

    Step in youtubers that can design and build a housing/product prototype using recycled materials, this will get crowdfunding and the world is a slightly better place?

  • @ThePaulv12
    @ThePaulv12 Před rokem +1

    Alex I'm a mechanic and I can tell you that there is not one hope in hell that I would use this POS.
    I don't trust it, I don't trust the seller, I don't like it, I hate the mounting. Mechanically speaking the moment of it on the top of even a small mast is going to be substantial. How are those three pitiful screws going to stay tight in that pitiful printed housing pounded by water and wind? The shitty plastic will deform under load and you'll probably never be able to keep the screws tight.
    I imagine with my over active imagination that some wally is 3D printing this in his bedroom at mum's while she's doing his washing and cooking for him.
    Even the most simple question is met with passive aggression.
    Aaaaaargghhhh........

  • @LesNewell
    @LesNewell Před rokem +2

    I'm afraid you just bought a box full of red flags. No matter what you do with it, it's still going to be junk.
    Aside from it's mechanical flaws, it is doomed to failure from the start. A big problem with wind power is that the available power goes up exponentially as wind speed rises. That means you get virtually nothing at low speed. They quote 5mph cut in speed. The blades may turn but you won't get any power out at that speed. Conversely they quote a survival speed of 45MPH. That means even a gust at say 50mph will probably destroy it. 50 MPH gusts are not that rare, especially at sea. Looking at the blades, I think even 45MPH is very optimistic.
    That cheap brushed motor is not designed to handle thrust loads. That means the bearings won't last long at all, especially in salty air.
    Unless you are somewhere with a fairly high steady wind, the average output of the wind generator is likely to be only a couple of watts. That's not really any use for anything.

  • @0xKruzr
    @0xKruzr Před rokem

    good Lord, these people are astoundingly awful at the advanced business practice of "doing literally anything at all." even if they were inclined to be nothing but rude, one would think that they would be smart enough to know that you could do an enormous service to their business simply by mentioning that you're using their product aboard Alan and had a great experience. just nothing but a series of one after another own goals.

  • @EnergeticAdvantage
    @EnergeticAdvantage Před rokem

    If you're trying to DIY something like that up, I wonder how effectively the props and motors from a large quad copter could be repurposed. You would at least be able to source a properly balanced carbon fibre prop

  • @dfgggfg
    @dfgggfg Před rokem +1

    I'd suggest that something stronger from China will be better. They offer 300-800 Watt wind turbines, with mppt controller. Together with solar panels you'll have lots of energy.

  • @theafro
    @theafro Před rokem +2

    Looks like hot-garbage to me, taking that thing with you on an expedition (or even a strenuous picnic) would not go well. You'd do much better by simply making your own, or at least replacing the shitty printed parts with something less prone to crumbling away when temperatures drop. I don't know what that heap cost you, but there's about £10 worth of parts there, and most of that is in the electronics.
    I'd suggest visiting your local RC hobby shop (or just going online) and buying a couple of nice big electric aircraft propellors, they're reasonably cheap, strong, and light. and are also very well balanced from the factory, making (or buying) a simple adaptor to mount them onto the motor with (they're usually 2-bladed, so stacking to make a 4-blader would work to increase power available). of course, for a much greater power to weight, a brushless motor/generator is best, and figuring out your own rectification/regulation is quite do-able and not too taxing, even with limited electronics experience. but that's a bit more of a project, and might best be left for a rainy-day.
    I've built a few little turbines to play with, and while none were pretty, they were all capable of respectable outputs, and cost nearly nothing, throw a little (and i mean little) budget at the problem, and i'm pretty sure you could come up with a very nice, light-weight solution.
    EDIT: why not ring around a few people on the UK? I'm sure I've worked with a company that did small lightweight turbines, although I'm blanking on the name. I'm sure that if you could find a small outfit that did something at least CLOSE to what you want, they could work with you to produce a viable unit, especially if you were willing to take it somewhere interesting to test/promote for them.

  • @chiefbloodygrass
    @chiefbloodygrass Před rokem +1

    nice review, they will feel the burn...😡

  • @LostDeadSoul
    @LostDeadSoul Před rokem

    It seems what you have there is a dynamo. Almost since the dawn of electricity dynamos have been used. They are though inherently inefficient and fail quicker.
    So the verdict of that generator is "Scrap/Junk". Everything is wrong.
    And if you need a generator which works in all weather and doesn't break, you need one who can turn the blades out of the wind, when the wind is raging(50+ m/s).
    I have not seen that in small scale generators, but who is the first ;)

  • @ptonpc
    @ptonpc Před rokem +1

    I have to admit, as soon as I saw this, I thought it is not even a firm turd you can polish. There is absolutely nothing there that speaks of quality. This is a product that's been designed to look good from 10 feet away and pre purchase but I would not trust it.

  • @Aheitchoo
    @Aheitchoo Před rokem +1

    That thing looks like a toy. I would not trust it for safety, and maybe not even for luxuries.
    That said, you could probably balance the blades by weighing each side of each blade with the other side on a stand. Then balance by sanding (or adding epoxy as you describe) each side.
    That stuff sure looks like PLA though, and not suitable for water exposure over time.

  • @chris7015
    @chris7015 Před rokem +1

    Doesn't sound like a company I want to patronize.

  • @pheffr
    @pheffr Před rokem +2

    This is amateurish and almost a little frightening. 3D printed wind turbine blades are something you'd expect to see in a middle school science classroom, not in a production model.
    Aside from the unprofessional looking finish, it has to be the root of their slow lead times. Each of those blades took hours to print. The money they've spent on 3D printers and labor to run them would have easily bought an injection molding setup.

  • @nuthenry2
    @nuthenry2 Před rokem +2

    You may be just be better off to just buy a motor and make your own wind generator, You could probably use a model airplane propeller As wind blades

  • @Kalledussin
    @Kalledussin Před rokem +1

    I'm dubious. Hope it works well but it looks so janky. The 3d prints look like they came from a 10 year old hobby printer.

  • @uncledodge9396
    @uncledodge9396 Před rokem +2

    I'm about a hundred miles away from you and I can feel the burn from here! Shoddy quality and a poorly made product, how can they present this?

  • @tikunshana784
    @tikunshana784 Před rokem

    Seems weird that they sell raw 3D prints instead of the normal way where you use 3D printed proto components in order to make silicone 4 urethane molds. Must be a bunch of Happy Elementary school students or similar...

  • @MRBIG-bw4xc
    @MRBIG-bw4xc Před rokem

    i dont know about you but the Tex Energy 5T is a preferable option to what looks like shitty 3D printing

    • @AlexHibbertOriginals
      @AlexHibbertOriginals  Před rokem

      Alas. I do need 12V. And their 12V unit is no lighter than my Rutland 504.

    • @MRBIG-bw4xc
      @MRBIG-bw4xc Před rokem

      @@AlexHibbertOriginals fair enough

  • @r-urbex1611
    @r-urbex1611 Před rokem +2

    I'd want a refund! I've seen home made printers do a better job than that

  • @xeddtech
    @xeddtech Před rokem

    I am appauled at the "customer service" of that trash-heap of a company. You honestly could make something better by buying the electronic components from aliexpress, and printing the other bits out yourself. At least then you could get blades that were at least marginally the same weight

  • @fluffernaut9905
    @fluffernaut9905 Před rokem

    chief i wouldn't trust those wind generators to charge my phone on a river let alone in the high stress environments you plan on using it.

  • @rik8508
    @rik8508 Před rokem +2

    I understand why you persevere with this project, but my god what a terrible product it is.

  • @FructusSum
    @FructusSum Před rokem +1

    That look like a really badly 3d printed job for the blade and body....

  • @YellowPinkie
    @YellowPinkie Před rokem +1

    That wind turbine is a crock of shit.

  • @petejones1957
    @petejones1957 Před rokem

    The generator module looks like a cheap dc motor rather than a brushless ac generator as used in everything other than the cheapest "toy" turbines, As virtually all comments state, the build quality is terrible, I certainly wouldn't take it on a camping holiday in the UK let alone an expedition where my life may well be dependent upon it. Best of luck!

  • @safetyinstructor
    @safetyinstructor Před rokem +2

    That's a terrible company

  • @nobs3075
    @nobs3075 Před rokem

    It amazes me that after watching all your episodes to this point you invest your time in attempting to lecture/educate a two bit company. What amazes me even more is that you are using this equipment, not to grow hemp in an off grid plot of land in Oregon, but potentially stake your and any colleagues lives on this questionable caca. I hope you come to your senses, spend less money on a comfy toilet seat and more on items that frugalness is irrelevant. BTW, I love your show, and of course, Alan.

    • @AlexHibbertOriginals
      @AlexHibbertOriginals  Před rokem +1

      I'll be using the Rutland.

    • @nobs3075
      @nobs3075 Před rokem

      @@AlexHibbertOriginals Now we're talking. I do appreciate your attempts to promote no-name companies. Hopefully, they take your advice and plug to create something of quality - like A.H. Originals.

    • @AlexHibbertOriginals
      @AlexHibbertOriginals  Před rokem +1

      Very kind of you. I've received a new unit from Cutting Edge - no fundamental changes, but they have mitigated a few of my concerns. It's not expedition-ready though.

  • @truthwsyf
    @truthwsyf Před rokem +1

    Most awful product & customer experience. I would've given up long ago...

  • @normanboyes4983
    @normanboyes4983 Před rokem +1

    That micro turbine is an utter scam job.

  • @VinceW187
    @VinceW187 Před rokem +1

    Looks DIY at best, not hopeful

  • @Dirt-Diggler
    @Dirt-Diggler Před rokem

    Chinese quality control from a US company 👍

  • @DuudSimon
    @DuudSimon Před rokem

    that is probably the worst product i've ever seen. those blades will crack in cold temperatures for sure. buy a texenergy turbine instead.

  • @rossstewart9475
    @rossstewart9475 Před rokem

    Yikes - I feel like you could've done a better job yourself with a DC motor, some fibreglass and a grinder, whilst at sea, hungover, and with frostbite in three fingers.
    Piece of junk, mate: Whilst perhaps not the sole objective of your video, I thank you for highlighting how bad this company is to future potential marks.

  • @therosses5
    @therosses5 Před rokem

    WHY is providing a decent wind turbine for smaller applications such a challenge? My little drone has more engineering in it than this garbage.

    • @MrSummitville
      @MrSummitville Před rokem

      It is very easy to make a motor spin a propeller. It is very difficult to make alot of energy, from a small amount of wind. If you think it can be done, then do it.

    • @therosses5
      @therosses5 Před rokem

      @@MrSummitville Hence my question, jack@$$.

  • @Wojtekpl2
    @Wojtekpl2 Před rokem

    Looks like pretty cheap 3d printing result... Waste of money IMHO.

  • @anonpers0n
    @anonpers0n Před rokem

    looks like utter crap to me, i'd go about making something else lighter or find another way to get the power before i'd carry such dubious crap into the far north

  • @magnuz69
    @magnuz69 Před rokem

    That product seems a bit shit innit?

  • @knoxieman
    @knoxieman Před 5 měsíci

    Great video, terrible product.

  • @-HighTide
    @-HighTide Před rokem +1

    1st ? You can't imagine interruptions from the Russians.

    • @dw4956
      @dw4956 Před rokem +3

      Yeah....lets blame the Russians, how mature and intelligent.

    • @-HighTide
      @-HighTide Před rokem

      @@dw4956
      Its true, Putine has totally distracted me from my otherwise enjoyable CZcams routine..

    • @-HighTide
      @-HighTide Před rokem

      @@dw4956 is a Russian Bot