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Komentáře • 201

  • @FanOfMostEverything
    @FanOfMostEverything Před rokem +101

    I was not prepared for the idea that Commodore Guff is a regeneration of the same Time Lord as Ms. Frizzle.

  • @xander_man
    @xander_man Před rokem +250

    FWIW, “cascade, cascade” is 2 abilities, you may only copy 1 of them with Abstruse Archaic for a total of 3 cascades

    • @ricohard1986
      @ricohard1986 Před rokem +7

      But you're not copying the cascade your copying the trigger that says "spells of mana cost 7+ gain 'cascade, cascade" which is a single ability. Which resolves twice adding cascade, cascade, cascade, cascade to the text of the spell which then resolve normally

    • @xander_man
      @xander_man Před rokem +42

      @@ricohard1986 The “Spells you control gain” is a static ability and not copiable by Abstruse Archaic

    • @matthewtaylor6829
      @matthewtaylor6829 Před rokem +9

      Bumping because everyone needs to know this

    • @vampiredarkdragon
      @vampiredarkdragon Před rokem +3

      Correct. Each instance of cascade is its own instance of a triggered ability.

    • @Vlaecke
      @Vlaecke Před rokem +11

      I know this has been answered, but in case there's someone out there like me who wants the exact reference in the
      CR: 702.85c If a spell has multiple instances of cascade, each triggers separately.

  • @FWill13
    @FWill13 Před rokem +161

    Ben, Ben, Adam, and Kathleen is absolutely my dream blunt rotation

    • @germanyjones2700
      @germanyjones2700 Před rokem +4

      C’mon Kath PASS dat ish

    • @OctopusOwl
      @OctopusOwl Před rokem +6

      The chillest circle. They’d be so cool to just talk about big concepts together

    • @elscourou6654
      @elscourou6654 Před rokem +3

      I'll do you one better. Wheeler, Kathleen, Cameron, Serge and Graham

  • @djmaster293
    @djmaster293 Před rokem +70

    Two bens and an adam? I can already tell this episodes going off the rails

  • @Taruan
    @Taruan Před rokem +72

    Holy crap that grindr joke conversation was gold! Well done to Matt for that edit

  • @jovh8795
    @jovh8795 Před rokem +37

    I had to watch the whole video to be sure but Wheeler bottomed every scry he had on Path of Ancestry which means he got full value off his turn one land. Which if nothing else gives him some sort of moral victory involving value.

    • @IRFine
      @IRFine Před rokem +4

      He kept one at 1:02:40

  • @TwoflowerTheTourist
    @TwoflowerTheTourist Před rokem +80

    49:00 Small correction, Ben should've cascaded only theee times. You can copy either of the two cascade triggers the spell creates, but there's not a single trigger that you can copy lets you cascade twice.

    • @TwoflowerTheTourist
      @TwoflowerTheTourist Před rokem +15

      57:30 Pillar of Origins doesn't enter the battlefield tapped.

    • @ricohard1986
      @ricohard1986 Před rokem

      Hes not copying the cascade he's copying the ability that grants double cascade

    • @bondeulv
      @bondeulv Před rokem +19

      @@ricohard1986 that ability is a static one, not a triggered or activated one.

  • @LibertyMonk
    @LibertyMonk Před rokem +4

    "none cards, left beef" is an iconic reference. It works as a reference, but also, you're all out of cards and still have beef (petty slights) remaining.

  • @whipstitchzombie
    @whipstitchzombie Před rokem +30

    these episodes are always so clean cut and entertaining that it makes me want way more than one a month but that's the fallacy

  • @StookyBill
    @StookyBill Před rokem +5

    wheeler's planeswalking columbo is my favourite thing

  • @nerd_mor
    @nerd_mor Před rokem +4

    "I've got the thoughts of 3000 slivers in my head" is the best ADHD description I've ever heard

  • @gavinps31
    @gavinps31 Před rokem +12

    Who ever is in charge of these new edit jokes, I see you, and appreciate you and your excellent work

  • @keab42
    @keab42 Před rokem +10

    I love Adam's humour when he plays EDH.

  • @evanjcameron
    @evanjcameron Před rokem +3

    the chaotic alignment of each side of this table is delicious.

  • @gaz-l621
    @gaz-l621 Před rokem +6

    I'm so glad the pandemic made Columbo into a thing The Youth enjoy, it's a gift that keeps giving

  • @MrSwordJ
    @MrSwordJ Před rokem +11

    I dearly wish y'all had more time slots to produce these.

  • @JRandomHacker
    @JRandomHacker Před rokem +2

    "I get a bunch of triggers"
    - Adam, summarizing playing Enchantress

  • @samuelcouey8946
    @samuelcouey8946 Před rokem +7

    “All I wanna do, is see Adam cast into, a giant woman….”

  • @joshbaker1639
    @joshbaker1639 Před rokem +7

    Didn’t see that end coming. Each deck looks awesome, even if they are quite expensive.

  • @Crowned_Goblin
    @Crowned_Goblin Před rokem +2

    The Grindr messages were WILD.

  • @sirspate
    @sirspate Před rokem +5

    Kudos to the editor(s) for the symbology choice at 15:09

  • @Mordalon
    @Mordalon Před rokem +8

    Since it doesn't target, Ghoulish Impetus' ability that puts it directly onto the battlefield can put it on creatures with hexproof/shroud. This comes up a lot with effects like Retether than can return Auras directly to the battlefield from the graveyard or effects that flicker Auras.

  • @MidoriKeen
    @MidoriKeen Před rokem +1

    "The Brothers Yasuo" got me hard; someone's been playing a lot of LoL!

  • @BasicandBizarre
    @BasicandBizarre Před 11 měsíci +1

    OK, I was NOT expecting the Guff deck to go that hard! Wow.

  • @user-wy7rx2po3t
    @user-wy7rx2po3t Před rokem +1

    the way Matt JUMPSCARED me with the grindr notif sound is unacceptable.....

  • @thenerdwithoutfear8378
    @thenerdwithoutfear8378 Před rokem +17

    It kinda physically hurt me when Kathleen missed getting the Chandra Emblem out.
    Chandra was on 6, using Karns Bastion to proliferate puts it on 7 for the Emblem.
    I had it out last weekend and it's a blast. Just wrecks boards and lifetotals.

    • @345tom
      @345tom Před rokem +2

      I hope you sought help with your pain!
      Honestly, piloting the Guff deck there's so many ability choices going around it can be a pain to think through all the lines. It's not the waterfall of triggers of the Enchantress deck, where the issue is keeping track, the issue is just active actions. It's a fun deck, but it's real bad for decision paralysis or adapting board states.

  • @shaneportis520
    @shaneportis520 Před rokem +3

    Never realized until this game that Spirited Companion was an enchantment creature

    • @Mordalon
      @Mordalon Před rokem +1

      It's a key part of why it was so good in Kamigawa limited and not just an Elvish Visionary recolor.

  • @hetarthpatel8297
    @hetarthpatel8297 Před 7 měsíci

    shout out to ben for the kingdom hearts reference " simple and clean" Love this show!😃

  • @axelostlund2348
    @axelostlund2348 Před rokem +12

    And thus we see a new engagement of dragons in social matters.

  • @BeAware3
    @BeAware3 Před rokem +1

    The planeswalker party is the most fun precon I've ever had. I've beefed it up a little bit and it wrecks. So much so that people have procured the "immoetal sun" to stop me lol

  • @kizikucalegon8673
    @kizikucalegon8673 Před rokem +3

    19:23 - fun fact, the voice actor who did Scruff McGruff is in prison on drug and weapon charges. So, uh.. no treat, bad dog?

  • @gogglestherandom5701
    @gogglestherandom5701 Před rokem +1

    All praise our Glorious Gladiator Godfather

  • @hqueso
    @hqueso Před rokem +4

    I'm so excited to see an new EDSC that I spontaneously engaged with the content!

  • @MrThewooter
    @MrThewooter Před rokem +2

    Huh, I guess Adam is in a polycule with Chandra and Nissa now. Neat.

  • @incrediblefrown1288
    @incrediblefrown1288 Před rokem +4

    10:30 they did have half art wastes in the bfz precons; i worked a card store and always complained to our database people that the entry for them didn't meaningfully differentiate them from the full arts, and they never did anything about it. presumably because there was zero demand for them and thus no actual chance of error. but it still bothered me!!

  • @tomireland3644
    @tomireland3644 Před rokem

    Thank you!
    Hugely grateful for the change in sound mixing so the harsh horn doesn't cut through and over the voice of everyone.
    It hurt my head and it's really good to be able to chill out listening and watching the show.
    Lovely bunch of folks playing fun and powerful decks. Always happy when everyone gets to pop off 💙💙💙

  • @SymphoneersGaming
    @SymphoneersGaming Před rokem +2

    Adam AND the Bens? I'd like to formally register an ook ook.

    • @broshmosh
      @broshmosh Před rokem

      Not to be confused with Adam And The Bends, a cuationary tale about diving and blood oxygen.

  • @IraRadchuk
    @IraRadchuk Před rokem +1

    Ben's introduction and Adam's and Wheeler's comments on it left me in stitches. And tbat's only 2 minutes in!

  • @minine6508
    @minine6508 Před 3 měsíci

    59:02 this is just the plot of Grim Fandango

  • @TejanoPendragon
    @TejanoPendragon Před rokem +1

    In this episode, I learned that Weeler Loves Me
    Also that Wheeler does not have my best interests in heart
    I do not know how to reconcile these two pieces of information

  • @rachelkerns5259
    @rachelkerns5259 Před rokem +8

    Okay first off I wanna say I love this video and everyone at lrr. Great editing and my favorite commander game play on this sphere of the internet. I really hope someone reads this: please pick a different ambience track you’ve used this same one for multiple EDSC and every 7 mins the Saxophone goes off on a crazy solo that makes it hard to hear the players. Again greatest respect for everything you do, and if the track stays I’ll still watch.

    • @Half_Dupl3x
      @Half_Dupl3x Před rokem +4

      i literally did not even notice the background music until i read this comment

    • @migueletcetc
      @migueletcetc Před rokem

      Came to the comment section to see if somebody else was talking about it, I agree completely. Happens in many previous videos too. It is great content, but it has that headache inducing element.

  • @Redonx
    @Redonx Před rokem

    Wheeler's joke at 22:36 was so underappreciated at the table for how good it is (and the edit was very good too)

  • @ArcanaMaxima
    @ArcanaMaxima Před rokem +1

    3:39
    "Have they ever made a Sliver that didn't care about Slivers?"
    I don't know if this qualifies, but I do know of one Sliver card that does not have any abilities itself; Sliver Construct.

    • @jedrzejkraszewski816
      @jedrzejkraszewski816 Před rokem +1

      Plus there's its earlier buddies, bigger Venser's Sliver from Time Spiral, and smaller Metallic Sliver from the first appearance of Slivers in Tempest.

  • @isyraqzaki9727
    @isyraqzaki9727 Před rokem +1

    Not the grindr notification sounds 💀💀💀

  • @markbrierley6367
    @markbrierley6367 Před rokem +3

    I had always interpreted the scene in which Guff rewrites future history as complicated time magic and not self awareness or 4th wall breaking.

    • @NickTheDM
      @NickTheDM Před rokem +2

      I mean the line between the two is pretty narrow, so that’s a valid interpretation.

    • @PiquantPan
      @PiquantPan Před rokem +2

      Guff's entire presence in the novels is constant 4th-wall-breaking and veiled references to MTG lore. the specific scene where he rewrites history isn't played for laughs as much as his other antics, it does have tension and drama to it, but it's still very goofy overall since Guff knows that he exists in a timeline that is able to be rewritten on an order of magnitude higher than Teferi's time magic.
      Compare him to another "All-knowing Librarian" trope like Wan Shi Tong in ATLA, who knows everything that's been written, but doesn't have the power to influence what has or hasn't happened.

  • @bvorhies
    @bvorhies Před rokem

    Thank you for doing elder dragon social club. Honestly if feels like watching a group of friends play and having fun. Thank you once again for bring joy to those around. It really does help being able to make it though a week.

  • @Wiitigo_X
    @Wiitigo_X Před 6 měsíci

    Sliver construct is a 2/2 for 3 generic that is an artifact creature sliver with nothing but flavor text so there is technically a sliver that doesn't care about slivers

  • @thomaswhite3059
    @thomaswhite3059 Před 11 měsíci

    I don't know if James has a kid but that time to lean guff means he's a Dad

  • @PsionicMonk
    @PsionicMonk Před 5 měsíci +1

    The only sliver I know of that doesn't directly help other slivers is that artifact sliver with no abilities, and technically most changelings

  • @stephenbradford8524
    @stephenbradford8524 Před rokem +2

    My experience with the Zhulodok deck is that, out of the box, "cascade" hits too many X spells.

  • @aririran7749
    @aririran7749 Před rokem

    wheelers face at 21:26 tho 🤣

  • @sandmanlives3
    @sandmanlives3 Před rokem

    Excellent, as always. Thank you.
    I’m a big fan of Wheeler’s cult. 😊1:21:42

  • @Tclark6199
    @Tclark6199 Před rokem

    "But after....switch" I fucking lost it 🤣🤣🤣

  • @18nightc322
    @18nightc322 Před rokem

    This was the most Anime magic thing. The power of friendship truly rocked around.

  • @jamesbalch3751
    @jamesbalch3751 Před 11 měsíci

    Jeremy brought the City's Blessing to the fashion show

  • @sushimahjongfc
    @sushimahjongfc Před 11 měsíci

    I love the simple and clean reference ❤

  • @DarthChewdup
    @DarthChewdup Před 10 měsíci

    they did print non-fullart wastes in a colorless event deck back in oath of the gatewatch

  • @meaghansharp6906
    @meaghansharp6906 Před rokem

    37:12 Now I wanna know the origins of "giddy up" lol

  • @IxWxSxProud
    @IxWxSxProud Před rokem

    Ben referencing Simple and Clean almost made me scream

  • @TamesLovesGames
    @TamesLovesGames Před rokem

    Me, last night: I wonder if LRR will do an EDSC about the Commander Masters decks
    Me, today: Heck yeah!

  • @insainraven9875
    @insainraven9875 Před rokem +1

    Ok but I would a hundred percent love a persona secret lair

  • @MiffoKarin
    @MiffoKarin Před rokem +2

    Great game and great editing!

  • @woofwife
    @woofwife Před rokem

    god i would join wheeler's cult in a second

  • @andrewtl7988
    @andrewtl7988 Před rokem +2

    Okay but why all the Crashing Drawbridge hate?! Repeatable on-board haste not in red? It's a great card in the right deck

    • @Mordalon
      @Mordalon Před rokem

      Occasionally they chose the weirdest cards to pick on.

  • @williamriven
    @williamriven Před rokem

    I'm engaging because nobody knows a better way to get the recommendation algorithm to work.

  • @TheCookieCrisp
    @TheCookieCrisp Před rokem

    I don't know if it's just my phone but this looks amazing! Great color and very crisp!

  • @SackofDooDoo
    @SackofDooDoo Před rokem

    I played 3 precon games with these decks, each of which players rotated decks, and Guff won all of them (while being archenemy the whole game each time). We dubbed the deck "DifGufftin." I was glad to see that it began differently for you guys...yet ended the same. GG, nonetheless!

  • @ViciousVic595
    @ViciousVic595 Před rokem

    25:09 I ask myself that every fucking day and still don’t have an answer!

  • @grelgen
    @grelgen Před rokem

    Kathleen working that BM final turn to it's maximum.

  • @vipershutendoji2415
    @vipershutendoji2415 Před rokem +1

    Shoulder devils, Auntie Blyte entered the chat

  • @PUDRETE919
    @PUDRETE919 Před rokem

    10:35 They printed non-full art Wastes into the Oath of the Gatewatch fatpack, one got full arts out of the boosters but the basic land pack had non full art

  • @spellbreakerunbound
    @spellbreakerunbound Před rokem +2

    1:15:30 Play Spark Double, copying Guff, play Chad, swing with Leori at a player and name Guff, -3 OG Guff for 6 damage, -3 Spark Guff for 6 more damage is lethal, no? Fun game tho, love seeing gameplay of the CMM decks, even if they’re overpriced!

  • @ronaldkantelberg
    @ronaldkantelberg Před rokem

    Good to see there's always time to sh*t on James, even during commander games. 😂

  • @WeatheredPeach
    @WeatheredPeach Před rokem

    Heavy are the eyes that ponder the orb.

  • @finnsclarinet
    @finnsclarinet Před rokem

    Original Gideon is the best way of saying OG ever

  • @marcopolo1020
    @marcopolo1020 Před rokem

    I love the intro music so much! 🎉😊

  • @irudeathmasacoru1172
    @irudeathmasacoru1172 Před rokem

    Kathleen didn't pay the 1 red for Blasphemous Act, sheesh XD

  • @Giga-lemesh
    @Giga-lemesh Před rokem

    Very excited to see these decks

  • @gamefreak3072
    @gamefreak3072 Před rokem

    maybe its the edible but I died at the back and forth between bens

  • @tobybeauchamp2323
    @tobybeauchamp2323 Před rokem +1

    Ben forgot the cascade trigger from Ugin unfortunately. It’s colourless spells! 1:26:27

    • @bondeulv
      @bondeulv Před rokem

      ...with mana value 7 or greater 😉
      Ugin is 6 unfortunately.

    • @tobybeauchamp2323
      @tobybeauchamp2323 Před rokem

      @@bondeulv got my ugins confused 🤣🤣

  • @daviddotson765
    @daviddotson765 Před rokem

    Kathleen and the rowdy boiz. 10/10 content.

  • @ff0213
    @ff0213 Před rokem +1

    Slithers and Adam - name a better combination inside and outside of magic

  • @Vmcf1968
    @Vmcf1968 Před rokem

    that was fun gang

  • @KomradeKrisis1701
    @KomradeKrisis1701 Před rokem

    ACAB includes Scruff McGruff.

  • @tomserdar412
    @tomserdar412 Před rokem

    Wonderful game! I love that Kathleen won!

  • @marcushead9985
    @marcushead9985 Před rokem

    It's rare when I can't decide who to cheer for.

  • @joe_h_Redwire
    @joe_h_Redwire Před rokem

    As Adam would say, I popped when I saw this in my feed.

  • @kingfuzzy2
    @kingfuzzy2 Před rokem

    Adam is here!!!

  • @jameshaga5400
    @jameshaga5400 Před rokem

    Now that eldraine is out with its 2 precons Im hopin we get to see the 2 from All will be one and eldraine fight.

  • @namelessaccount2759
    @namelessaccount2759 Před rokem

    WHAT A GREAT DAY!

  • @jmcauley650
    @jmcauley650 Před rokem +3

    God I love Wheeler Magic VODs

  • @Arti_Shovelhead
    @Arti_Shovelhead Před rokem

    A nice break from my Fam Jam marathon.

  • @xander_man
    @xander_man Před rokem

    Holy shit what a lineup of players

  • @kilo3989
    @kilo3989 Před rokem +1

    15:09 Using the colorless Phyrexian mana symbol as a censor bar is inspired tbh 😂

  • @HopefulAgnostic
    @HopefulAgnostic Před rokem

    1:22:13 Adam cannot attack any Gideon, both say that you can only attack that exact gideon. Because both say that you can only attack Gideon (the gamepiece, not a card with the name) you cant attack either.

  • @Skeithalot
    @Skeithalot Před rokem

    Great video.

  • @IRFine
    @IRFine Před rokem +1

    So Guff isn’t really a self-insert, per se.
    It’s true that he’s based off the Magic story lead Scott McGough, but McGough didn’t write or create the character. J. Robert King, the author of the Invasion trilogy, made him. It’s like making a character based on your boss, I guess

    • @magnusprime962
      @magnusprime962 Před 10 měsíci

      I think she was meaning that Guff was a self-insert writer when he rewrote history

  • @kilo3989
    @kilo3989 Před rokem

    I'm rooting for "Ms. Frizzle, probably"!

  • @uriahatkinson2103
    @uriahatkinson2103 Před rokem

    This game was crazy , I’m into that ,now power up the decks and play again,I think Adam deck went off more in my opinion

  • @TheOnlyOrk
    @TheOnlyOrk Před rokem

    god these decks look so cool. Wish they weren't so dang expensive