Why are Thailand's Powerlines so CRAZY🤪
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- Ever wondered why Thailand's powerlines are so messy 🤪
Righto Legend! Thailand, where beauty meets chaos, and nothing's more chaotic than their crazy powerlines. I came searching for answers but instead found a wild adventure. Join me as I tangle with Thailand's 'spaghetti' wiring, meet local electricians, and even consult some cheeky monkeys. Beyond the mess, discover a land of innovation and surprise.
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They are not powerlines. Powerlines don't need separate cables between premises.
If you look at the top of the poles in your examples, you can see the real powerlines.
What these things are is communications cables. In the past they were for phone lines, while today they are for Internet cables (eg VSDL or fiber).
The reason that the mess exists is that the multitude of small internet companies don't both pulling out old cables and just run replacements on top of the existing mess.
Yuh, that's pretty much what the taxi driver (former electrician) said - well spotted! 😋
you missed the x-former at, for example, 4:49 ?
there are surely some power cables there.
not power (transmission) lines, but...come on...
It's not just the messy looking "internet stuff".
It's no locked panels...
no covers on panels...
and no apparent electrical inspections or even electrical code being in-forced even for commercial properties.
You DID hear that electrician explain that you only need a LICENSE to climb the pole... that means even in hotels your 8 year old cross-eyed third cousin can wire up the building.
The extended section of your universal plug adapter is for euro recessed sockets.
Someone told me that the issue with loose wall sockets in hotel rooms is because of us tourists. Apparently with a bit of persuasion you can push an Australian/NZ 2-pin plug into them, but in doing so you can damage the socket.
Oh now I get it. I can totally see someone trying to stick an Australian plug in
12,000 people die from electrocution in India every year. Thailand is bad too.
Same way you can get a 2 pin Euro plug into a UK socket, if you prod a (preferably metal) thingy into the ground hole to lift the shutters. Totally works.
You can use the 10 Amps as well as 16 Amps European plugs, so you destroy the springs inside.
On the communications cables that are the spaghetti, you don't troubleshoot that.
You just run another one on top of what is there already.
Simply add to the layers.
😆👍
and when it becomes a mess, you just cut it all down.
but that seemed to be a nice country, all of those absurd amount of copper cables and it wasn't being stolen. well, in some countries the problem kind of solves itself, people will just steal the old copper , and then you keep installing optical fiber
You don't diagnose things. You just disconnect (maybe) the wire you think might be bad and run a new one. Never removing any old ones.
Fair enough
Man. Did you draw inspiration for this from ElectroBOOM? Hahahaha.... Great video dude.
Electro boom would have tripped something by now.
He did, the trip is now also a tax write off :)
Hahaha...
Try India!. I was in a hotel and for the 'power board' to connect a multiple plugs into one powerpoint, you get 2 lengths of building wire (earth is an optional and wasteful extra) strip one end shove it into the outlet, strip about 3cm of the insulation a bit further along the wire, wrap it around the pins of the appliance plug, a bit further along the wire do the same for appliance 2 and keep going until you run out of appliances or wire, repeat on the other pin, I don't think they have a concept of Active and Neutral, mind you Australia officially hasn't got a clue about Neutral either.
You maybe amused at Thailand, the Australian government is on a mission to burn down Australian buildings and blow up electricians, we don't even know what our domestic supply voltage is, only government bureaucrats could get us into that mess it was 240v, not anymore each state has their own nominal, min and max voltage and all different (according the the ieee). Now it's time for sparky's to live up to their name, what potential to neutral is the black wire? If you say 0v you are correct and if you pick a number 207v - 264v (depending on the state) you are also correct. Our wiring colour standard is now Ph1 Brown, Ph2 Black, Ph3 Grey, Neutral Light Blue (is a faded dark blue close enough for light blue or a dirty white and a grey?), however it appears the industry is still ignoring that one. I thought it may have just been for flex, but apparently not.
You may laugh at UK electricians, the Australian Victorian sparky's are just well embarrassing, I know 4 whom are active electrical contractors who haven't a clue how to work out power consumption using volts and amps (don't even mention power factor or Ohms law, they vaguely remember that being mentioned in Trade school) a final year apprentice was assisting his supervising electrician to install my solar panels and just left the protective earth of the panels flapping about in the switchboard that would have been an interesting discussion with the inspector if I hadn't checked things before the inspector arrived.
Check out this guy for a professional lineman @Bobsdecline, he needs to be let loose in Thailand for a few weeks.
UK harmonised phase colour from Neutral Black L1 Red R2 Yellow R3 Blue,, Now Blue is Neutral Black is a phase with Brown and Grey. I was in a Substation doing TI inspection and noticed new works on a 400A 415V feeder, the Black was on Neutral and then Brown Grey Blue ?.
I called the site electrical manager who apparently micro managed everything and quietly reminded him of the new phase colours and he had a short in place at the Sub, then I could here him call the new guy on the radio " Mike don't close Sub one do you hear "...... silence !. He got more shouty then some expletives shouting in the radio " Mike leave the Sub open copy " .
I am still listening on the phone as Mike appears at the sub and said "the Manager wants to speak to you don't close the line...." " Yeh I bet he does, then Mike slammed the steel door making an almighty bang added a few screams for effect then said to me. Now that will teach him to do functional checks. I bailed out so don't know what was said but Risk assessments and Work sheets were in place on my next visit and the Manager seemed more friendly ?.
The box at 9:18 are POTS lines. The mostly not in used anymore. Thailand transitioned to all fiber-optics since before COVID.
The Telco simple run fiber to you house and tell you we not using copper anymore, even you only use basic Telephone you end up need to install FTTX Internet and have your analog phone plug into CPE to continue using your old phone number.
May be some of it in used, wired from PABX. But It's only ~70V @ 15ma at max. It will not kill you.
But he's a "youtube expert" - aka, doesn't know crap, but is here to tell you how smart he is. Meanwhile a 6 year old could tell you those are telephone line lightning arrestees - they have a gas discharge tube in them to shunt lighting strikes to ground on the phone line. Those same style used to be common in north america, but they're long since been phased out - they weren't very good for DSL, and even though the US is way behind most places in rolling out fiber, in areas that have fiber, the copper (and those lightning arrestors) has all been pulled out or abandoned, just like it was there.
2:30 the "insulated bit" is for recessed power points. they relieve strain on the two pins.
2:30 The "insulated bit" is to fit round socket designed for more heavy duty plugs. Image search Euro round plug or socket 👍
That is exactly what I said when I first saw the mess overhead. "I have no idea how you would begin to fault find in this spaghetti." That was in 2018.
Lines with spools are fiber optics: you cannot patch a fiber like a copper line, so you need some slack in case you need to make a repair. The loops are a good clue.
Thailand use black and white and green for ground.
The small boxes at 9:30 are all copper phone lines.
Problem with underground is flood, unstable soil that can move strain the cables, cost, difficulty to repair.
So the crazy power lines are not power lines after all...
Hope your son recovered. Luckily, health care is great in Thailand.
Great video man! Good editing also, I learned a few things
Cheers mate 👍
Are you going to be the ElectroBOOM of Australia?
Going overseas and testing their electrical outlets, tripping their circuit breakers
😆 I could never live up to the legend himself
Electroboom but without the spark 😂
It's a weird mash up of 240v-ish phase to earth and USA style enclosures, wiring colours with a bit of IEC colours thrown in for variety.
Because it is, there was a change of standard around 2010 that switched from the old Black/Red/Blue with white neutral standard (why this hotel use Red/Yellow/Blue I have no idea) to the IEC standard
I always thought spaghetti originated in Italy, but after watching this video clip, I'm starting to consider the possibility that it may have originated in Asian countries.
วิดีโอดีมากและชอบจริงๆ สนุกทุกครั้งที่ดู หวังว่าลูกชายของคุณจะสบายดี คุณเป็นช่างไฟฟ้าที่เก่งมากและมีฝีมืออย่างแท้จริง การดูคุณทำงานเป็นแรงบันดาลใจและให้ความรู้เสมอ คุณเหมือนกับดอร่า นักสำรวจ ที่ไม่เคยหยุดสำรวจและค้นหาสิ่งใหม่ๆ ขอบคุณที่แบ่งปันความรู้และประสบการณ์ผ่านวิดีโอเหล่านี้ รอชมวิดีโอต่อไปของคุณอย่างใจจดใจจ่อ!
Thank you so much for the support 🙏
No crap UK outlet…
I’ve never seen a British plug wobble, while being in a socket 🤷♂️
That’s because they are so large, they exert their own gravitational pull. 🤣
@@rpvitiello3.2kw 👊🏻
@@Elberto71which is ridiculous to carry around when most devices use 0.001kw. I don’t need or want to carry a plug designed to power an oven or dryer to charge my phone. 🤣
also in that segment he calls it eu plug (better to say socket) but i doubt any european would recognize it as such...
i mean not even in bathrooms
SAME SAME thing in the Philippines. All these frickin wires going everywhere. Telephone lines and illegal taps off the electrical system. Then they wonder why there are major crap outs on the distribution system.!!!!!!
That's wild. I felt anxious just watching you opening up the board, i was expecting a loose live tail to fly out. That wiring is an electricians nightmare fuel
I’ve actually seen similar ones in Melbourne but usually the escutcheon is left on 😆
0:53. Yeah nah, that’s not called a piggy back 🤣🤣
😆 the kid still has no idea
Nice video Dave!
Thanks mate 👍
oh man, never eat street food, no matter how hungry you are, that's the first rule of going abroad, your immune system isn't built that way. If there really are no proper diners then there is always a market you can pick up fresh ingredients from and cook something up in the rental. Its always tempting when walking past a stall that has lovely smelling food but all I can say is you will regret it the next few days, when you feel so crap from recovering from a stomach bug. Also another tip if you don't have access to bottled water is to boil the tap water to kill any bacteria.
Thats one of the downsides of living in a culture that is obsessed with 'ultraclean'. Kitchens must be ready to perform surgical operations in and kid Never play in the dirty.
The immune system gets do lax that anything hits it.
Wrong In Thailand the street food is safe to eat. You could argue it is safer than a diner because the food is cooked in front of you, so you see what happens.
Contrary to other cultures, it would not even occurs to Thai people to try cheating on food safety. There can be unseen problems, but it is not from purposely cheating. When a waiter brings you a new spoon because you dropped yours, he will not go back to the kitchen and bring you back the same spoon.
I have witness killing a pig, half of the carcass was being sent to the market for immediate sale while the tail was still waving on the other half, you cannot make it more fresh than that.
In one fairly new built guesthouse in Thailand I stayed at the switchboard had been placed under a rain gutter downpipe which overflowed every time it rained. The board never shorted no matter how wet it became.
Wow kinda cool. But it is possible
Remember that Thailand power is 220 VAC. So that would be LOWER current use than we have here in the USA where we have 110VAC.
North America, including the United States in residential homes has 240/120v @ 60 hz using split phase power. Large appliances use 220v and ordinary things like lamps and such use 120v.
Great video Dave! I have similar memories when travelling to Taiwan straight after Japan. Night and day in terms of street wiring and standards between those 2 countries.
Thanks mate, I would love to go to Japan.
I’m surprised to see their electrical panels are the North America design, just very messy install with the cover missing.
That socket in the bathroom wouldn't be so loose if it was a proper socket, like a British one.
Or a propper Euro socket, ive seen these in italy and was terrified
Unfortunately traveling with British plugs can put you over the weight limit on flights, because they are so friggan huge 🤣
If that was the case we wouldn't be having this video now would we
or a 20 amp NEMA outlet
@@ethernet01don’t awaken the comments section even if I agree with you
Are you related to Dave from eevblog? 🤔 That bit where you finally found the 32A switch, I was like 'omg, there's definitely a criminal resemblance for sure' 😂 Parents had the same --milkman-- Fosters delivery guy? 🤔😉
good to see you again 😊
Seen a funeral parade where they have moving pagodas. The had a team of dudes to lift the cables up and out of the way.
It took ages to move the things 100 yards.
No ways that’s crazy
My best to your son. Appreciate the dedication to check out the grid :)
That's not a European socket that's a universal one and the small 2 pin Euro plug is only for protection class II devices with a nominal current of up to 2.5 A and a maximum of 250 V.
I stayed in a cheap hotel in Chiang Mai, The 250V electric shower isolator was installed directly above the electric shower heater unit - in the shower cubicle - with no cover on it - connected by 6 inches of cable 🤯
That is bloody crazy 🤪
That's spaghetti mess of wiring isn't just electricity it's also cable internet cable TV and telephone because the way they do it over in Thailand they don't have something called cable sharing and each individual provider if you want to have a new service they come and throw up another line on the pole so most of those cables that you see old cable TV lines or telephone lines or cable internet so it's not just electricity
This kind of sloppiness can be found everywhere. We have a similar wiring mess held up on a wall at the border of our property in Hoboken, NJ, USA. When the wall was torn down, several official-looking people were observed slinking about, trying to figure it out. Nothing was removed. I had a slightly less complicated nest running along the back wall of my house. Some of the wires were the old twisted-pair type that was used in the 1940s and 50s. I went out with a pair of diagonal cutters and removed all of it except for our telephone landline - nothing else was connected to anything. In the front of the house, everybody who moves into our row of attached houses gets new cable TV service, and there are dozens of old coax cables running up the wall of every house. My neighbor and I went through ours and removed all but one. I happen to have seen a similar mess hiding above the dropped ceiling in one of the main corridors in Bell Laboratories in Murray Hill, NJ.
but it's not in the plain eyesight, is it?
It would be so fun to know so much about a field so you can have a little romp around town about it
Appreciate that mate but there is always more to learn 👍
Like you I am from Melbourne I have lived in Bangkok for 15 years. I used work here but now retired. Electronics Engineer but worked in I.T most of my career. I live in the Sathon area of Bangkok and have seen both Sathorn Road and Narathaiwat Road both cleared of above ground cables both power and comms which are now all undergound. The BMA here has stated they are slowing down the removal of cables as it costing so much to remove them all.
We built a new house in NE Thailand and it took 3 vists by the electrician to get the earths connected and working on all the power points and on one power point electrician had used a brown wire as the earth wire yes it was an earth just not green/yellow. At least the new house has earths and an RCBO which got tested when a hot water unit hade earth leak.
All the shop houses my wife has rented here in Sathorn for resturants are only active and netural. New builds in Codos and house will have Earths but all older stuff no. Amazing Thailand
Brown for an earth wire is a new one for me. I still loved visiting 👍
Hi thinkLIST you should totally react to Styropyros video where he hooks up 100 car batteries in parallel a bet you'd enjoy all the explosions!
I honestly haven’t watched it Incase I wanted to react to it. Hmm maybe soon
I kid you not I turned on an extention cord while watching this video in Hungary Eastern europe and it tripped the breaker💀💀💀
Breakers?
Im in the UK and have none of those!
Got good old fuse wire.
What do you mean by switchboard? A breaker box? A fuse box? And why would it be where a guest can get at it? In a hotel, you wouldn't put that in a room. You don't want guests messing with the electricity.
Fascinating
An Australian calling our plugs crap, wow, thats got to be comedy gold because we have the second best plug type for domestic mains power.
No, the first. The british plug is the best in the world.
@@simontay4851 I used to think this too, but generally people often cite the plug used in another country a close first, I can't remember what country it belongs to but I think it's Scandinavian.
Why Tom Scott Is WRONG About The British Plug
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Which always irritates me so much. That's a good thing, you don't have to dig up the ground. Can quickly swap lines. But what chaos everywhere. That must be hell for the electricians to find faults.
Wow. Cool video.
Those open junction boxes are a recipe for disaster.
Great video! Btw electricans make barely minium wage 10 or so usd a day if your smart you dont work as EE. The coms lines are said to be cleaned up for beauty reasons but in reality they kept falling and decapitating motorcyclists. And last thing your hotel was particularly bad but it tends to be a property owner who has to enforce how good the install is.
landing late into Thailand international airport the mini bus did the several hour run around to krabby beach and along the way the bride said, look fireworks! It was a transformer giving up on gravity and coming crashing to the ground, in a loud bang and massive amount of sparks! The rain was to blame and this is a constant problem throughout Thailands home-DIY power theft
Brilliant video, hope your son is fully recovered... could have left out the bathroom bits :D :D
Thanks mate, he is doing well. Though toilet 🚽 part would give you guys the full experience 😆
At least it's authentic content.
@@RemcovanZuijlen you ain't wrong lol
the most interesting thing is that breaker panels are modified wrongly and the metal box is like cut in half at my school but normally they have a switchboard in every room. also gfci's are rcbo's that are normally tripping and 30 milliamps leakage and no gfci outlets
I tried to remote login to my laptop in Bangkok while i was traveling. I realized that it was running on battery. So i knew something is wrong with power in my condo. Unfortunately all the maintenance staff was unavailable due to Buddhist holiday. Found the breaker box inside a cupboard in the kitchen. Surprisingly labeled schneider equipment. After some google translating the labels i figured out what to do. The wiring looks terrible but some people know what they do. Plugging multiple kilowatt appliances into one outlet isn’t uncommon
I was in bali one year on melbourne cup day, i watched guys use bamboo poles with hooks like a fish gaf, run new cables all from ground and a small ladder. Like you i was very interested in the workings of another country so asked my driver about how they go about reading the meter and billing. So he was telling me his family buys credit like phone pre paid at circle k and go back to their board and type code into their power keypad, once pre paid kwh is used up back to circle k.
It’s the electrician version of a landscape architect dragging his entire family on vacation and using his kid/wife to help model the scale of each of the different design elements he wants to feature in future projects
Nice video! Were there any obvious safety issues with the messy cabling on the streets, or are they just ugly but functional?
Thanks mate. I mean naturally by passed ELV cables around LV or even HV can be dangerous. It was not as bad as I thought it was from 20 years ago
Im amazed that it even works at all without just going BXZZZZZZZZZTTTZZAAAAAAPPP! Everything looks just like a huge short circuit waiting to happen.
it seems like running IT cabling in kind of close proximity to H.V power lines would cause alot of EMF noise on them. unless the IT cables have some heavy duty Shielding ......
anyway, glad that they are in the process of moving the Internet lines under ground ,
and that your son is alright after his surgery 😀
Usually they put the fuse box above the main entrance door.... and yes, they don't take down the old cables if they needed to maintenance, or they changed distributor, theyjust put another cable up, even same company. don't bother replacing the old, taking it down or whatever.. just put new.
the spaghetti is all low voltage communications, probably abandoned.
The "insulated bit" is for Swiss sockets which are a recessed version of the Euro socket.
All proper Schuko style sockets are recessed. That is most of Europe.
Lol you're like electroboom but without boom, but with monkeys
OMG yes of course, I love those videos. I watched the Mexico 🇲🇽 one. He is awesome
I bet you do, you made it
japan has a similar situation with large amounts of telecom cabling everywhere just more organized
it's like here in the philippines
some of those wires can cause a big house fire especially in manila area
I think its similar to how Philippines does its residential power and internet wirings.
Both the electrical and telephone and internet wiring are all in poles and the same poles, but in a different elevation of the pole.
That's why there is a chaos of wires, when you see both electrical and other utility wirings in the same poles.
But there are parts of the Philippines now that does not have these messy wirings
Some areas in the USA have power and internet on the same poles, but they're usually very strict about permitting and the cables are mostly neat and tidy.
it's like electroboom but with a different accent and no unibrow
😆 I’ll take that
Come to Brazil to check our powerlines, they are so confusing
And Bamboo ladders. 555
that main switch is probably for the ac
Come to Malaysia our power lines are wayy better
dhakar lumpur?
An Australian @Electroboom!
As an american i would never look for a circuit breaker panel in a cabinet. Is that normal in australia?
At some point your realise Australia is the anomaly
This is actually a bloody good point
OMG, who does their EICR🥹. Suppose you could hang your washing on the lines😂😂
most of the cables are just telephone lines and fibre optic cable for internet. these messy cables contribute to the superior internet in thailand i reckon. makes australia looks like theyre still in the stone ages 😂
This old ver.powerline😊😊
Nice one, Dave!
Gday mate, thanks for the support 👍
For me all cables above ground looks like crap, no matter how "tidy", it just looks poor. Put that ugly stuff underground instead 👌🏻
im allways weary when eating abroad as an upset stomac can ruin a week worth of holliday time
allso make sure you got youre shots before going anywhere , knuckle fever (dhenge) is no fun and never leaves just like malaria
just youre regulair things like only drink bottled water and make sure the bottke is sealed , dont risk premade streetfood and when it made where you stand make sure its hot enough to kill everything that could be inside it , restaurants are usually betterat hygene and using fresh products
in the phillipines they sell roasted chicken , they have rotating spits over a charcoal fire . they hang those chickens up in the morning and they rotate all day untill sold , i suspect the ones not sold get hung up the next day , a realy busy place that sells out every day is a better choice as they need to get fresh stuff to sell more
i actually like the "freedom" and the bending of the rules in thailand , i live in a pretty strickt country where washing youre car outside or peeing in the bushes could get you fined if someone sees you and report it to the poice (as they have nothing better to do)
sure having someone do a inpromtu karaoke session barbique with the family under youre apartment window isnt my idea of fun but it just happens once in a while but you wrenching on youre moped just outside the condo under the overhang might just atract curious youngsters not the po po , live and let live and all that.......
and if the wiring or plugs are bad in youre apartment , just fix it to youre standards
I noticed the same thing in the Philippines. Almost exactly the same, except for the monkeys.
So that's spaghetti miss under the main electricity is actually internet cable TV and landline so what they do if you want to have another service on at your place they just throw up another cable on the pole instead of line sharing
What an intro
Appreciate that mate 👍
5:25 русская школа для зимовщиков😂
who goes on vacation to worry about another countries Utility lines..You need a vacation from work...Most of the mess is the low voltage copper service drops..especially the old protectors or NID you was looking at mounted on the outside wall...
Yeah I’m a pretty weird dude
Ahh, the beauty of asian electric installations. 😂
that 2pin plug i call fire starts i hate them
5:54 monkeys😂 😂
im more interested in load centers and consumer unit and I'm a 11 year old thai kid
Thanks for a great video. The framerate is, however, very slow. The video is very jerky. It's only 24 FPS. Your phone probably recorded at 30 or 60 FPS. The edit really needs to match the framerate otherwise there are a lot of artefacts in movement. I say set everything the same, preferably 50 or 60.
Yep I suspect your right, that for the tip 👍
Power Lines Look Like A Snakes Wedding
wait till you see Vietnam!!... mad!
I would love too
Hilarious HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Because it is a carbon copy of American wiring, crap. UK is streets ahead of them.
Ah Baba O'Riley
damn kid ruined the vacation
1:44 Nope... That's actually for A/E/F and you are trying to use a type C. So it is your fault.
hope your son is ok
Thank so much mate. He is doing much better
Next stop Vietnam :)
I wish 👍
There socket are clearly not the EU type we don't have this trash here 😅
😆
The internet's better in Thailand and Philippines than it is in Australia
they are not powerlines
Go to india