Thank you for this video. Even tho it isnt the exact race, it brings back memories. My mother die this past month. She was a true dirt track fan. An would go to Thunder Mtn Speedway in Lisle NY every weekend. One year my girlfriend at the time was a mgr for Eckerd Drug store. An that year they had sponsored Super dirt week in Syracuse. I surprised my mom and we took her. She loved it.
36.42635391514315 was the lap time for a wing sprintcar. (the current track record is an impressive 144.950 mph, set by Billy Pauch in a sprint car in 1994). And sadly will never be broken because the Track was tore down along with the Grandstands in 2015
I was watching an Outlaw race from Syracuse on TV many years ago, and at the start of the main Sammy Swindell's wing buckled upward and he actually started to fly. Nobody hit him and he got it whoa'ed up next to the inside guard rail. He got out of the car as his crew ran over with a spare wing and he said fuck that, I'm not going back out there. I think that was the last year they raced them there. Try as I might I cannot find video of it.
+Mike Whitcomb I wonder if it was just a piece broke that they didn't have a spare. He seemed to get a thrill on the biggest, fastest tracks and couldnt' be beat on them.
When asked what he thought about the then new Daytona International Speedway, one early NASCAR star replied "At most tracks we talk about separating the men from the boys. Running here will separate the Racers from the men long after the boys have gone home. " Same idea applied to this place.
i can only imagine all the forces on the wings, to have one collapse would be a heart stopper by itself alone. if that didnt kill you the fence would when you rocket right into it.
Sadly, the New York State Fairgrounds tore the track down five or so years ago. It was a crown jewel race for the north eastern modified’s here in this region.
The governor of New York shut the track down after the 2015 Super Dirt Week, and promised a new track as replacement. Which -- in an unsurprising fashion for politicians -- that never came never came.
Does Sammy Swindell's lap record from the 80's still stand? Remember reading that he never lifted while setting that record. He turned left at 177 mph.
@@wesleyd6080 he doesn't own the record anymore its Paul MacMahan at over 145mph at Rolling wheels Raceway about 10 miles from the syracuse mile and its a 5/8 mile track!
Fear, fear, fear! I remember it was right after Billy Pauch put in a lap average of 145mph, that WoW announced, "We don't need to be racing on mile ovals -----." Sheer terror.
My uncle ran his 410 here in the 90's when Kramer Williamson drove his car and said they were running about 174 MPH which is EXTREMELY dangerous for a sprint car.
It is a horse track but 1 week every year its home to Super Dirt Week. Sprints havent races the track since 95 i believe. Last sprint winner was Billy Pauch.
He's probably running full throttle down the straight he's just got such a big gear in the car that it doesn't let him go to such high rpms it's a speed track not an acceleration track you want to maintain high speeds te bigger the gear the faster the overall top speed.
that was exhibition at 160 plus, i don't think you would want to push it in those track conditions especially after the track has 300 miles of racing already in the groove.
THAT WAS PRETTY INTENSE JUST SITTING HERE BEHIND MY T.V. SCREEN !!! I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE OUTLAWS PUT THIS BACK ON THERE SCHEDULE !!! IT DEFINATLEY SEPERATES THE SANE FROM THE INSANE !!! AND THE TRACK PREPPERS HERE SHOULD HAVE THERE SHIT TOGETHER A ''HELL OF ALOT'' BETTER THEN THEY DO !!! EVEN FOR THE MODIFIEDS, PISS POOR TRACK PREP HERE EVERY YEAR !!! KILLS THE SHOW !!!
This guy took the video and I'm sure asked the driver if he was going wide open. I should think the driver of the car would know if it's wide open. especially a WoO driver.
This place really needs some track prep done to it. Grading, anything... But its getting way too rough, I realize it gives the track character, but come on.
i watched a sprint car driver, one time, way back in the day, hold it fucking wide open around that whole track. fucking balls so big i dont know how he sat in the car.
Unbelievably fast, people who talk crap on here would get scared at a quarter throttle in a sprint car. When it comes to the West Coast, I thought about moving out there, but I couldn't just because they only race 360's or lower.
For the guys complaining about the track, this was on Friday Afternoon, after basically 4 days of abuse let alone 5 races earlier in the day and no rain at all that week, I would think the track would be a little torn up
rumerstain12 the worse part I hated about the mile was the put tarp along the outside wall to stop the freebies and that would stop those west winds from escaping and would make the car move around !
No excuse for this track surface. Same as the white earth moving tires found in most infields ,track is paid to take them, illegally I might add. Many cars tore up from those tires. Drivers killed by them. I'm a Sprint car fan since 1963 and I want these men who drive these fastest oval cars in the world safe. Fix your tracks and move the damn tires to the store they came from.
Not anymore its Paul MacMahan at Rolling Wheels Raceway about 10 miles from the Syracuse mile at over 145mph on a 5/8 mile track during a Woo time trials!
record was set by billy pouch back in the early 90's I believe at 145 and ill bet any of you on here talking shit about this track wouldn't have the balls to step foot on the Syracuse mile its dirt racing the track is what it is either shut up and race or go home 2014 usac sprints are coming back to Syracuse cant wait outlaws raced Syracuse from 78 to 94 its only a matter of time before they come back
USAC Silver Crown cars will be at 'Cuse in Oct not sprint cars. Silver Crown cars are bigger ,heavier than sprint cars. Carry bigger fuel cells and have 350 C.I. engines not the 410's in the sprint cars
Paul MacMahan now holds the record at 145+ mph Pauchs went 144+mph but MacMahan did it at Rolling Wheels Raceway about 10 miles west of the Syracuse mile on a 5/8 mile track during the Woo time trials!
That sure in the heck looks like a horse track. way to skinny to have been designed for dirt racing with 900 HP in sprint cars. That track takes you out on some back roads way out on a thousand acres. that would be ballsie to flat foot that track man. lol
That was always a stupid race to be on the outlaws schedule. Syracuse had so many other divisions on the track and it was always a shitty surface. Sprint Cars don’t belong on a mile track. That’s what champ cars are for!
Thank you for this video. Even tho it isnt the exact race, it brings back memories. My mother die this past month. She was a true dirt track fan. An would go to Thunder Mtn Speedway in Lisle NY every weekend. One year my girlfriend at the time was a mgr for Eckerd Drug store. An that year they had sponsored Super dirt week in Syracuse. I surprised my mom and we took her. She loved it.
those potholes coming out of turn 2 are insane!
balls of steel to do that
track looks like hell.
Insane! Thanks for posting!
I miss the Moody Mile. 😪
that's nuts! going that fast over a track that rough. man i thought my track was bad
36.42635391514315 was the lap time for a wing sprintcar.
(the current track record is an impressive 144.950 mph, set by Billy Pauch in a sprint car in 1994).
And sadly will never be broken because the Track was tore down along with the Grandstands in 2015
Paul MacMahan now holds the record at over 145mph at Rolling Wheels Raceway n.y about 10 miles from the Syracuse mile on a 5/8 mile track!
I'd like to see some more of that. Wow what a ride!
I've seen plowed fields that were smoother than that track surface! Omg, how do these cars keep from literally shaking to pieces?
+1armedgal. Lock nuts and safety wire?
lock nuts and very good shock packages.
Well its new york so........ lol
I have seen highways rougher than that!
@@ldnwholesale8552 - I've seen Paramatta looking about as rough during
some of the long, dry sells we get down here from time to time, too!!
Do they have a cemetary in the infield?
OMG
ROFL!!!!!!
Perpetual Student y
That is becoming a 🐐 track.
I thought I saw "Snapper" on the hood, and imagined I was driving down the track on my Snapper ride-on mower.
Wow, that looks rough!
Wow , that's a rough track.
i see the track has as many potholes as the highways in New York
Probably more than the highways
Lol I live in cny and its accurate
I also live near syracuse, where this track is
Edit: was
your Tax dollars at work!
I was watching an Outlaw race from Syracuse on TV many years ago, and at the start of the main Sammy Swindell's wing buckled upward and he actually started to fly. Nobody hit him and he got it whoa'ed up next to the inside guard rail. He got out of the car as his crew ran over with a spare wing and he said fuck that, I'm not going back out there. I think that was the last year they raced them there. Try as I might I cannot find video of it.
+Mike Whitcomb I wonder if it was just a piece broke that they didn't have a spare. He seemed to get a thrill on the biggest, fastest tracks and couldnt' be beat on them.
I was at that race also it was 1994 or 1995
Hey there, I like this video. When you going to have more of these type of videos?
Race Hard!.
Russ
The inside of turn two looks like the Grand Canyon.
no doubt ... that one coming off turn 2 looked like it was more than a foot deep!
Glad to see the sprinters coming back this year. It's not a sprint car track though.
I want to hear the damn engine!
How long would it take to fix the track and make it smooth and how long would it last?
its all gone now
Way too long. It's a graveyard now
WHAT is with ze track-surface in turn 2 [ze end of T-1?] ( 0:51 )...chipmunks? Or did an aeroplane crash there...& explode?
thats syracuse, love that track with a 410
Amélie Renoncule lol dirt track drivers also have to navigate threw pot holes and such, this making the sport harder then it looks.
I remember Steve Kinser watching Sammy Swindell time trial from on top of a trailer at Syracuse, and said 'he never lifted....'
When asked what he thought about the then new Daytona International Speedway, one early NASCAR star replied "At most tracks we talk about separating the men from the boys. Running here will separate the Racers from the men long after the boys have gone home. " Same idea applied to this place.
From a Mikey K fan how you doing.?? First comment in 2021. 👍 🏁
What was that? Half throttle?
As for the track,, well most dirt ovals get rougher than that, I actually thought it looked ok, just a bit dry.
LDN: Half throttle? During hot laps, before you qualify. 50K to win. I'd like to think it was way too tall a gear, rather than Chad stroking it.
i can only imagine all the forces on the wings, to have one collapse would be a heart stopper by itself alone. if that didnt kill you the fence would when you rocket right into it.
i wouldn't race there i would be scared how fast i would be going because if i crash going down the straightaway i would be dead
i remember back in the 70's Randy Wolfe flipped going down the backstretch and broke the car in half he survived his kid Lucas is a penn posse driver!
Australian Speedway Fan here. Is this track still in use now? I can't seem to find anything recent on CZcams for it, I hope it is, though.
Sadly, the New York State Fairgrounds tore the track down five or so years ago. It was a crown jewel race for the north eastern modified’s here in this region.
The governor of New York shut the track down after the 2015 Super Dirt Week, and promised a new track as replacement. Which -- in an unsurprising fashion for politicians -- that never came never came.
Does Sammy Swindell's lap record from the 80's still stand? Remember reading that he never lifted while setting that record. He turned left at 177 mph.
Billy Pauch set the record in 94 at 24.89 144mph for sprints
That's insane.
@@wesleyd6080 he doesn't own the record anymore its Paul MacMahan at over 145mph at Rolling wheels Raceway about 10 miles from the syracuse mile and its a 5/8 mile track!
@@healthyone100very true at the time had forgotten that. But wasnt it broke again this year at Bristol?
@@healthyone100 sorry it was just a new track record there at 142. Still Paul hauling ass the fastest ever.
what the hell was stagger? 1/2 inch?
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Fear, fear, fear! I remember it was right after Billy Pauch put in a lap average of 145mph, that WoW announced, "We don't need to be racing on mile ovals -----." Sheer terror.
@gravesracer
well still i go to the usa nationals at cedar lake speedway and they have the track great for the 3rd and 4th night
My uncle ran his 410 here in the 90's when Kramer Williamson drove his car and said they were running about 174 MPH which is EXTREMELY dangerous for a sprint car.
MichaelTJD60 That is crazy fast. Almost a death wish.
Yup, you better hope you don't crash going that fast. Billy Pauch was the one who hit that speed.
I think they must use restrictor plates these days
Not 174! No way, no how.
Mmmm... I think someone exaggerated a bit. Maybe 134 mph. Maybe....😔
i love how it starts off....waiting....waiting....yawning....waiting...."HOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLEYYYFUCKTHATSFAAAAST!"
This was an exhibition session. He wasn't going wide open.
@Mikey01Kruchka yes he was. you have to watch farther into the video
I wouldn't have brought my car on that track. Maybe one pace lap then I'd pull it in and tell them the track doesn't qualify!!
If Kemenah was going full speed the track would be a blurr and his pants would be filled with doodoo
It is a horse track but 1 week every year its home to Super Dirt Week. Sprints havent races the track since 95 i believe. Last sprint winner was Billy Pauch.
You can't be serious? The meaning of "death wish" takes on a new meaning.
what is average top speed there
Search up Super dirt week history you will get a idea
189 mph
@@sidebite2533 No. The fastest sprint car record, not average, was Billy Pauch in 1994 at 145 MPH
He's probably running full throttle down the straight he's just got such a big gear in the car that it doesn't let him go to such high rpms it's a speed track not an acceleration track you want to maintain high speeds te bigger the gear the faster the overall top speed.
that was exhibition at 160 plus, i don't think you would want to push it in those track conditions especially after the track has 300 miles of racing already in the groove.
I would be so Embarrassed to have a track surface In such poor condition when racers come to race on It.
They only care about the $. Not the drivers. Not all tracks, just the run down trash heaps like this one
Doon714 they only had one race a year there. They tore it down 5 years ago
@@jedbodinebaseball130 it's getting "remodeled"/rebuild
@@sidebite2533 hey as a night goes on tracks fall apart they do resurface the track before the feature
@@pdb7110 dude theres video of them blowing up the grandstands
insane
3/4 mile tracks are hard to find AND treacherous too
This track is 1 mile
Holy pot holes! Somebody call track maintenance!
I would but they don't exist
THAT WAS PRETTY INTENSE JUST SITTING HERE BEHIND MY T.V. SCREEN !!! I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE OUTLAWS PUT THIS BACK ON THERE SCHEDULE !!! IT DEFINATLEY SEPERATES THE SANE FROM THE INSANE !!! AND THE TRACK PREPPERS HERE SHOULD HAVE THERE SHIT TOGETHER A ''HELL OF ALOT'' BETTER THEN THEY DO !!! EVEN FOR THE MODIFIEDS, PISS POOR TRACK PREP HERE EVERY YEAR !!! KILLS THE SHOW !!!
Thank you for the vid. The idiot governor closed it down.
Serious sick shit.
What a pair of balls
what a rush
Big Mods and Outlaw Wings..
This guy took the video and I'm sure asked the driver if he was going wide open. I should think the driver of the car would know if it's wide open. especially a WoO driver.
They should have worked that surface a few times after the horses ran.
Fuckin awesome!
This place really needs some track prep done to it. Grading, anything... But its getting way too rough, I realize it gives the track character, but come on.
30 second laps !!!!!!!!!!
Should call that track the Syracuse Pot Hole. Are you kidding me?
thought the same thing.... get the groomers out there....
I remember when my uncle brought Chad over to Australia and to race for him.
Would def kill to see him race again!!
The tracks just a couple feet of hard packed clay on top of concrete
Before NY State screwed everything up 😖
Facts
280 290kmph for a light weight that's fukn fast hammer it!
Yeah, they only average about 140 MPH per lap there. Not fast at all.
i watched a sprint car driver, one time, way back in the day, hold it fucking wide open around that whole track. fucking balls so big i dont know how he sat in the car.
Some one pull that throttle stop out!!
Yeah, he doesn't have to lift because he isn't going wide open.
@racermac1988 because they run big block modifieds who have shocks that can take the potholes sprint cars cant take that big of a pothole
Skip to 3min, your welcome
never heard of him in my life. im surprised that anyone would even want to race on this track man it looks all tore up.
Apparently you don't know much about racing. Chad Kemenah has been a top 410 racer for years. Hundreds of races and many victories under his belt.
Unbelievably fast, people who talk crap on here would get scared at a quarter throttle in a sprint car. When it comes to the West Coast, I thought about moving out there, but I couldn't just because they only race 360's or lower.
For the guys complaining about the track, this was on Friday Afternoon, after basically 4 days of abuse let alone 5 races earlier in the day and no rain at all that week, I would think the track would be a little torn up
That car is flat out in this vid at times. Must be 160mph+
worst durt track suffice I have ever seen !
yeah they dont take care of it unless the superdirt mods are running on that track.
TBH it's one of the best I have ever seen and I have been on 100x worse
rumerstain12 dirt surface
@@lavertymotorsports9297 Seriously!? There's no way I would run on this surface.
rumerstain12 the worse part I hated about the mile was the put tarp along the outside wall to stop the freebies and that would stop those west winds from escaping and would make the car move around !
No excuse for this track surface. Same as the white earth moving tires found in most infields ,track is paid to take them, illegally I might add. Many cars tore up from those tires. Drivers killed by them. I'm a Sprint car fan since 1963 and I want these men who drive these fastest oval cars in the world safe. Fix your tracks and move the damn tires to the store they came from.
long striaght strech
Hahaha
Yeah thats why Billy Pauch who the fastest man ever in a sprint car at 144.59 mph is from New Jersey and was set at this very track.
Not anymore its Paul MacMahan at Rolling Wheels Raceway about 10 miles from the Syracuse mile at over 145mph on a 5/8 mile track during a Woo time trials!
Geared up cmon
record was set by billy pouch back in the early 90's I believe at 145 and ill bet any of you on here talking shit about this track wouldn't have the balls to step foot on the Syracuse mile its dirt racing the track is what it is either shut up and race or go home 2014 usac sprints are coming back to Syracuse cant wait outlaws raced Syracuse from 78 to 94 its only a matter of time before they come back
USAC Silver Crown cars will be at 'Cuse in Oct not sprint cars. Silver Crown cars are bigger ,heavier than sprint cars. Carry bigger fuel cells and have 350 C.I. engines not the 410's in the sprint cars
Shut up stupid.
Garbage track 👎💩
😣💥🔫
Paul MacMahan now holds the record at 145+ mph Pauchs went 144+mph but MacMahan did it at Rolling Wheels Raceway about 10 miles west of the Syracuse mile on a 5/8 mile track during the Woo time trials!
wikedraces
No sh*t, but this dude is doing like 150mph average
Naw...maybe like 135
I can't belive thay have big money races on a track so poorly maintained .
they used it for once race a year lol. then they demolished it.
@@cjN1337 That is not an excuse. Go to a farm and race in a corn field and say we only race once a year. Thats a good enough answer?
Track surface looks horrible....
ill let you take a ride on my syracuse mile
That sure in the heck looks like a horse track. way to skinny to have been designed for dirt racing with 900 HP in sprint cars. That track takes you out on some back roads way out on a thousand acres. that would be ballsie to flat foot that track man. lol
Your right. It was originally a horse track.
What a POS track. Terrible prep and the sun has not even gone down yet. Nothing compared to the Springfield mile in Springfield ,IL
I work on a race team and this track ain't fast at all and these guys are only running half throttle
Damn, that track was never smooth, like driving on the moon FFS.
I agree. What a pile of 💩👎
I hated that place , was such a shit hole in the 90's and rained every damn time .
it had its ups and downs. but the place is the Daytona of dirt racing. have to pay respects to it.
@@mmrmurph3578 fuck daytona its the Indy of dirt track racing, race cars with fenders on them ain't fucking race cars!
This track is never fit to race on
this isn't a really good track for sprinters, flat and rough. more for the super lates, i'd love to see them show there
geez the tracks back east suck. no wonder all the talent comes from the WEST COAST
That was always a stupid race to be on the outlaws schedule. Syracuse had so many other divisions on the track and it was always a shitty surface. Sprint Cars don’t belong on a mile track. That’s what champ cars are for!