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Stop Wasting Your Time With FAANG (Facebook Amazon Apple Netflix Google)
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- čas přidán 14. 08. 2024
- The sad truth is that FAANG is not all that it's cut out to be. Getting a job there can be incredibly time consuming and if you do get a job, you're going to be bored out of your mind. Stop wasting your time with FAANG.
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⏰ TIMESTAMPS ⏰
0:00 - Intro
1:15 - Where Did FAANG Come From?
1:36 - The Future Potential Of FAANG
1:51 - FAANG Benefits Aren't Unique
2:31 - Big Tech Little Projects
3:29 - Proprietary Tech At FAANG
4:24 - Rest And Vesters
6:09 - The Interview Process
7:56 - No Guaranteed Job
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Do you want to work for a FAANG or MAMAA company? Let me know 👇
I think the job security and employee care is better at faang than any other company
🤔 maybe I should look into that JT...
Probably right Ojas.
I'm an IOS self-taught ;where would you suggest me to work ???
I agree interviews are super hard. I failed the assessments with Pinterest, Uber and Amazon, the first interview with Facebook, failed the onsite with Microsoft and Google, have been studying on and off for a bit more than a year now, and in two weeks I start interviews again with Google for the third time. For me their interviews are the best from big tech but still hard. I got to hiring committee last year so I was pretty close of getting there. Apparently they also take into account how many times you apply, so the more you try the better. But we will see
I have come to this same conclusion. Already pretty senior at a large SaaS. Great comp, perks, and life balance. Had this notion that I would like to explore a bit and landed an interview for Google and Amazon but I would no longer be able to be full remote. I would def need to prep at least 2-3 months as I no longer code in my role. With a wife and 3 kids I just don’t have that energy… Rather spend that time building something on the side.
Very well said, I didn't mention it in the video but also agree that it's better to spend time building something on the side instead of interview prep. Happy to hear you've found a lot of success with that SaaS, there are plenty of great companies out there 🙌
Many of the openings at Amazon are remote. I just joined Amazon for a remote dev role and am making about double what I was previously at another large SaaS.
I've interviewed with one of these companies. Even got an offer for a fairly senior position !! In the end the whole on-site multi-day interview process felt too cult-like. They didn't want to know who I was, they wanted to know how everything I did aligned with their internal policies and group-think. That combined with the fact that I didn't really want to move to the Pacific NW, I rejected the offer. I think it was one of the better decisions that I made.
Every job is a cult.
I've only worked at small companies and start ups. I get to build apps & features, from spec gathering, to prototyping & refining, all the way to deploy to prod. I like that kind of work. It's very rewarding... The only downside is that I don't get much mentoring and my time as a manager was like being thrown in the frying pan, so I self-demoted back to IC.
One more downside to the smaller companies I've worked at is some coworkers haven't been very smart or motivated to learn/improve. Since the teams are small, they have an outsized negative impact on the team as a whole.
Yeah smaller companies definitely have downsides to them as well. For myself, I think I prefer smaller companies but it's to each their own.
thank you. this is a great relief.. the same rain falls on everyone. I would love to work at FAANG with time
You can do it!
Reminds me of when my friend wanted to get hired by GM and design cars until he realized he’d most likely be designing door handles for 30 years instead
Yeah but those door handles will be used by every single person that uses the car 😆
I don't know... I'm having a blast making 500k working for meta remotely
I bet you are! Nice job 🙌
Goals!
Fantastic video. I'm still struggling with the idea of going to a fang company. I recently got hired as a app dev for IBM and while its well below market i'm happy to finally be given a chance. I may try to stay for a year to build experience with coding, version control, shipping a product, etc. I feel like it'll be valuable in the event fang interviews don't work out that i can pivot that 1 year experience to something tangible.
The most important thing when you are getting started is just getting your foot in the door. IBM is a great place to gain some experience, you're doing great 😎
IBM is a great place to be.
yeah my biggest thing is security. i look at my job as a way to help me check off my bucket list and help me attain lifelong goals. as long as the money is there the company doesn’t necessarily matter to me. i personally always refer to faangs because they’re notorious for giving you security financially. but if i can get paid the same as a google or meta employee at a startup where i’ll be making more of an impact then sign me up
Make sense, job security is a good thing.
You typically don’t get job security at a startup. Large companies are better for that.
Solid insights Cody!
Thanks Dave!
Hey Cody, I really appreciated this video and you putting it into perspective. I've been looking to make my next career move, was thinking the only logical next step would be a FAANG company. I was feeling frustrated because I felt like "Well I need to study for a few months before even applying anywhere".
Going to broaden my search a bit after some reflection =)
Yeah definitely broaden that search. It's not to say actively avoid FAANG but I personally wouldn't dedicate a ton of time for the interview prep; if it happens it happens.
I completely agree! And often the bigger the company the bigger the politics and the less influence you have (just a tiny cog in a massive machine). As we have recently seen with mass layoffs and no impact in their products/services. At a smal(ler) company you have far more influence and be more missed.
Sure pay is less but 450k in Silicon Valley with its inflated prices is no better than a great 120K in the rest of the US.
I was subcontracted out to IBM in 2000. I was so excited to work for big blue, I had visions of spectacular hardware platforms, software. I was amazed and saddened to see how amateurish it was compared to the first software house I’d worked for (a tiny company). But a tiny company has to do everything to automate and safe cost. IBM just throws people at a problem.
Then I went briefly to SUN, which was a bit better but again my importance and influence was non-existent. And then I was hired to the by then dying Silicon Graphics to support code migration from Unix to Windows. And also there I wasn’t really of any influence I was one member for a team of 25.
But yeah, IBM on your resume and currently ABN Amro (4th different contract) does tear down hiring resistance. But if they knew how little engineering actually takes place there and how non-important most people are there, then it’s not a selling point.
Sure there are absolute geniuses but that’s only a minority most talent unthinking wasted at those big companies.
The time you spent studying and preparing you can just do your own projects that bring in income passive or active, experience, skills and a project to show in your portfolio.
Exactly!
People love to trap themselves into golden handcuffs :)
They sure do.
The effort it takes to get into one of these companies is a total waste of time you can learn to develop your own business in that time and tell everyone to go kick rocks fire your would be boss immediately screw that I am never working for anyone ever again
Sir can google software engineer lifetime earnings exceed more than 15million dollars? My elder brother is a google software engineer. Plz reply. Thanks a lot.
Exceed more than 15 million dollars? That's quite a lot 😅 a lifetime earnings video will come in the future though, I promise 😇
You should ask your brother.
I got that joke about van😂
😂😂😂😂😂
great video 😚
Thank you! 🤗
I agree. its like a rat race
Yep, basically a rat race indeed.
FAAMG : Facebook, Amazon,Apple, Microsoft and Google .
The educated investors would call it MAMAA.
@@CodyEngelCodes Meta,Amazon,Microsoft,Apple and Alphabet ????
@@natgenesis5038 yes.
That shower comment wow
😆 it was a joke!
it sounds like you didnt get the offer and now you are blaminh faang
No, not at all the case.
Pretty sure he can get the offers
@@flvyu are you sure? cause ı am pretty sure he told in this video he couldn't. Dont get me wrong ı am agree about opinions about faang companies. But hearing that from is a person whom apllicate and rejecet just not feel right
@@kocmath8976 I said he can not that he didn’t
Boring would be fine if they let you watch Markiplier or something while working(as long as your tasks get done) But a lot of the time, companies want you to worship them and only them, so they make you sit still for 8 hours straight.
Just turn off your webcam and get a mouse juggler my dude.
You looks like the lost brother of Steven Strait
Never heard of them, but yeah, I guess I do kind of look like that person 🤔
I'm like #69!
Nice 😎
Nope, thought this was going to be talk about the market, especially using the term FAANG. For investors, this is pure click bait. Ignore and move on.
FAANG isn't only a market term.
Bruh, you investors think you're the only people in the world? Software engineers exist too if you didn't know.
@@tiq9r This comment is 4 months old and no one in real life ever says "I'm applying to fang jobs." It makes no sense. They say company name the end. Don't defend his click bait title, he knew what he was doing to get more views.
@@samuelfomoadams4612 I would say that. I know people who would say that. I don't really understand your point. FAANG isn't a term used only by investors.
I have done pretty well and the older I get the less motivated I am to relearn my CS degree academic nonsense that I rarely/never use just to pass an arbitrary interview process where the questions are disconnected from the actual work I will be doing. For example, interviewed with Amazon once. They asked me to pick a language (from about 30) and whiteboard a solution that obviously needed a sort process - here is what I wrote (Java):
Collections.sort(list);
Done.
I know what they were asking, but I wasn't having it. I explained to them why this was the right answer. Basically, sort functions have been implemented by every modern language and by way smarter people than me, and with countless debugging hours and test code to ensure it works. Why do I need to reinvent that wheel? Java even provides sorting interfaces to allow for custom implementations for your own objects in case you aren't sorting a List or Array.
They were not happy.
I also proceeded to tell them if someone started writing a bubble sort or quick sort from scratch, I would stop the interview and ask them why they are doing that. They were offended. Yeah, at this point I was just trolling them since I knew I wasn't going to get the job.
If I was solving a new problem - sure, I would work on coding something from scratch, but not before checking for an existing library to do this for me.
They really wanted me to write a sort function - so I told them "let me google that for you." Needless to say, I didn't get the job with Amazon. I also tell folks that if they want me to write a quick sort to prove I can write code, they need to interview those fresh out of college without any real world experience yet.
However, I have been writing and shipping real world code to real world companies with real world deadlines. I don't have time to play hacker rank.
Yep, it's a PITA dealing with that style of coding interview. Sure I can show you how I'd solve the problem to write a sort algorithm from scratch, but how often am I solving that type or problem? How often am I just going to manipulate one list of data to transform it into another list? A lot of things are fairly simple problems and it more comes down to making sure the code is easy to maintain and could be reused should the occasion ever arise.
hire me please i like m1 finance