One of the biggest most annoying plot holes for me with this show is that they have a planet they can go to, Thanos' garden world. Both Captain Marvel (who also promised to find a world for the Skrulls) and Rhodey (who may have been a Skrull at the time) were there and saw a perfectly viable planet for habitation.
There's so freaking many habitable worlds. And also there's already pan-species planets in the universe. Literally every Guardians of the Galaxy movie has shown os multiple of these worlds. They could have just asked Thor or the Guardians and they cpuld have immediately shown them literally dozens of potential worlds.
The universe is vast and in Marvel it's multiverse and they hv ppl who can access time travel and the multiverse and so much... I doubt there was a single habitable land .. besides if it had to be earth.. they could hv given them the North pole or south pole or the areas where humans are less on earth...
Their shows are science fiction but the writers are completely ignorant of science. They don't understand that there are billions upon billions of worlds. The Kree empire alone consists of 1000's of worlds. The Skrull can travel to any world, they don't really have a problem other than the Kree hunting them, but that plot was abandoned in favor of..... nothing. They also don't understand - how completely stupid it is that Nick Fury - a human on earth who knows *nothing* about Space that the SKRULLS didn't teach him in the 1st place - is somehow assigned to *find* a planet, for aliens to live on. It's just dumb, and the writer/director doesn't care if his show makes no sense.
@@NadeemShekh-uy9zn To reshoots. MatPat just put out a video about how Disney has been handling their bussiness in his Film Theorists channel, it's called "Disney is finally Dead, here's why". Basically, Disney doesn't make projects with a clear vision anymore because execs want to be able to erase things they don't like even by the point where the shootings are almost done, so when that happens they call all actors back and shoot new scenes in a way that pleases their commitees. This accomplishes two things: 1) It ensures that we never actually see the original vision the directors and writers had for their projects, 2) It unnecessarily bloats the budget of the project which makes it harder for it to make it's money back, in the case of movies. All that money isn't spent to make sure the project is as high quality as possible, it's to cover for their own incompetence in bussiness management.
Was it actually? That’s insane I literally don’t get how when a movie like across the spider-verse had a budget of 100 mil and was just infinitely better. They need to step it up for sure
Maria Hill was in the MCU for over a decade and seemed to have two minutes of total screen time. How does Nick Fury's second-in-command have less screen time than some extras?
They just fridged her period. After all this time MCU still doesn't know what to do with female characters except put them in danger or kill them so the guy/hero can get revenge. And even then they BOTCHED that, as Fury just basically dialed 911 Super Hero in the end, which he could have done before he let them kill Maria Hill. So many characters ruined. I don't ever want to see Nick Fury or Rhodes again.
Or how in the first episode Nick Fury literally says that humans can't even solve their own problems so there's no place for another species on earth. Except, you know, for the Asgardians who just got their own city in Canada or something.
@@EskChan19 They aren't even trying to make sense or be consistent. It's just that they don't think it matters. Audience will gobble up Marvel no matter how sloppy and lazy their work...or...so they thought.
If there is ever a budget issue for a show like this, DONT DO THE SHOW. We’d all rather not see it than have one of our favorite story lines turned into what it was
@@bad-people6510 if I had to make a guess from memory, probably the sets and actors pay 😂 if remember correctly the sets were actually really decent when they didn’t use the volume, and then a lot of big name actors in the show
@@Pyrowith2os The biggest name actor in it is the guy who has a reputation for being in anything. The point is I've seen MUCH cheaper productions do much more to a higher standard of quality.
I can't wait for the next big Avengers team-up movie, where it will be Most Powerful Superhero Ever Created versus a dude who got beaten by Ant-Man in his first appearance.
@vijayanand6650 Technically first, because I think the one in Loki was NOT the main Kang. But I'm kind of past the point of caring enough about the MCU to keep track at this point.
Love Pitch Meetings and your react's to them! Well done Achara on beating Jaby to the "Nick-furiating" joke! LOL. Keep up the awesome work you two, and please stay safe. Excelsior! Heff
Actually MatPat (Film Theory) released a fascinating video about all these issues that Disney have on his channel, and all the issues that Ryan George brought up is absolutely true. Disney has repeatedly doing a same mistake over and over again, just for the sake of money. If you look at the amount of Budget that have been put into the recent projects, it will blow you mind. 200 mill for this show and 80% of it was spend for reshoots and shit. If they somehow don't manage to change their course, I'm afraid all the future project is doomed to face a similar fate.
Yeah, most directors they have for their projects are just slapped on and don't want to do them. They don't have a passion for the project but also the people who run Disney hate directors who care about the source material by admission during at least one interview.
@@silentassason Yeah. Unfortunately it's true. I've heard so many stories about directors and writers leaving projects, just because Disney forced their hands to change the main idea and the first pitch of those projects. If you look closely, all of the recent contents of Disney (Movie or TV alike) has essentially been the same idea/formula, repeated over and over again. Whether it's a Star Wars or Marvel or Indiana Jones or even Live-action remakes of the past animated stuff, it has the same story. An old or Mature protagonist who's beat up and hopeless and miserable now, and it takes a younger generation to remind him/her to be a hero again (Luke Skywalker, Nick Fury, Indiana Jones, etc.) See?! It's all one shitty formula, just being put out there, not for the sake of a good or inspiring story or to respect the fans, but for the sake of money and income.
Does anyone else remember hearing about that project manager from Disney who said they hate when directors and other members of projects when they care about the source material?
Love the video! Jaby and Achara, if y'all are looking for more games to react to, I highly recommend the Telltale games. Walking Dead game usually is the popular one but I think you both would enjoy something with a tighter story such as Batman: Telltale, or Wolf Among Us which is a mystery story that has all the Fables from folklore stories in one town with the Big Bad Wolf as the detective. Pretty good stuff. Keep up the good work.
To be fair, Iron Man 3 did establish that you can kill someone with Extremis by blasting a hole through their chest, since Iron Man did the same thing to someone during the Air Force One scene. Doesn't make it make more sense, but it is internally consistent. That's the only thing I'll defend though.
This should have been a movie. They could have just given us subtle hints through phase 4&5 like they gave for Thanos and then ab Avengers secret wars movie
to be fair they did show in IronMan 3 that you can kill a person with extrimis in them if u shot them thru the chest...Tony did that to the guy on the plane
Dare I say, ScreenCrush has a great take on how the Secret Invasion storyline could have been handled. Makes one weep for what we might have gotten had we still been in the golden age of the MCU.
I kept expecting a third act twist as a dramatic reveal: Gravis, "You think we Skrulls are rebelling because you failed to find us a habitable world, Fury? No. You found one, many in fact, but CHOOSE not to tell us and forfeit your leash. Humanity will suffer because of your betrayal!"
Now, scenarios: Fury has been outside the planet since endgame,and in the entire show it's called out that he actually has no idea how things are moving on earth because he's too focused on creating defenses in orbit for alien invasions. The avengers are gone,like,gone GONE. And in any show has been mentioned that nobody is even trying to put together a new team. Specially because all the problems that the avengers had with global leaders in the past,where they basically did whatever the f they wanted. And also because they've illegally experimented with something that could rip apart universes, exposing earth to a new Thanos. Shield is also long gone (so Fury is not director anymore) and now there's sword,which was directed by a corrupted guy (potentially skrull) who also prevented Monica to go into space with Fury. In 'far from home' Thalos is the one who interacted with spiderman (and even if it was Fury,he wouldn't even remember who Peter is.) Neither Thor or the Asgardians ever answered to him. The thunderbolts are a clandestine group assembled by Val (who could easily be also an Skrull) There's also damage control, potentially a skrull organisation as well. Nobody knows about the eternals. Hulk is potentially out of the planet. Kamala is a teenager... White vision is probably just reactivated (if he is active, because 'WV' happened during 'FFH',and Fury received the call in the end, this probably happened while everyone was losing awareness of Peter) The only time in the entire MCU that Fury came into battle with reinforcements has been in 'age of Ultron' where he brought war machine... Yeah... He actually tried to call for his assistance,and he ended up being Skrull. So no, there's no one Fury could've actually called for the Skrulls but Gaia (who was already directly involved) WWIII is not even an excuse to call Carol neither, because WWIII could literally start any day for any reason. Imagine! "Hey Carol! Yeah,is me again! Look... So,the new president twitted something this morning... You might want to check it out."😂😂 And also calling other superheroes when you know that they could be easily replaced (if they're not already) About Gaia being the "strongest" is debatable. Neither she or gravick utilized the powers for too long. When she put gravick to sleep he woke up almost immediately... I totally see that there might be a lot of limitations on that, specially trying to keep up with a body that is using multiple types of anatomies... The thing is that all the answers for the questions that the internet had,were presented in previous projects. And people shouldn't being expecting any avengers level type of action in phase 4, because it is meant to be the same that phase 1. Mostly introduction of characters & contexts are meant to be shown. At least until 'the marvel's' which is literally the first teaming up of heroes since 'end game'. (Finally colliding the stories)
Concerning how Gravik died. Remember that is exactly how the guy who had extremism powers was killed by Tony Stark on Air Force one in Iron Man three. He shot a pulsar blast through the man’s midsection. So basically they did have precedence.
There was a western tv show in the 50s/60s called Wagontrain. Gene Roddenberry piched Star Trek as Wagontrain to the Stars. So, 4 words down to 3 in 60 odd years isn't bad, I guess.
I think that Spider-Man: Far from Home was a better Secret Invasiom Story than Secret Invasion. We don't figure out that Maria Hill and Nick Fury was switched out with skrulls until the very very end of the film. And also they also put some very small hits you could easily overlook. That's something I would have wanted out of the show.
As far as we know only Doctor Strange knew magic during Endgame, remember Wanda got her powers by some scientific research on her using infinity stones and she was not aware of her magical ability during Endgame. So that means Ebony Maw has very advanced telekinesis power.
@@sathishb-bs7do I'm pretty sure the idea is the mindstone just unlocked Scarlet Witch's potential. Not sure how it gave Quicksilver super speed though. I don't even know who Magneto's dna would give him super speed. That's a physical power and he has an elemental power.
I mean if he doesn't have the DNA of those heros than how would his system will recognise them you can put any name on those files and put captain direa in it he won't know it
they could've given gravik those weird "powers" like the compound v rejects at the red river compound (from the boys). but the reaction has me thinking now that skrulls of the soldier class could only pick the forms of living humans (but only if they were captured and locked up in those bed contraptions) or the forms of dead humans (like gravik and vara chose). has you wondering how nick fury's volunteers at the start just went and changed shape to whatever human they were thinking about at the time. anyway, trying to take a ff4 villain and making them nick fury's nemesis was a tragic mistake. maybe they'll just write it off as some bad dream fury had on the saber station.
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Or just make it so that you can HAVE all the powers... but you burn yourself out in 19 hours. For a fanatic that wouldn't matter as in that time he could raze the world like he wants... and it makes the sacrifice of his opponent more poignant.
What if the Skrulls what? What if the Skrulls impersonate the Avengers? There's nothing stopping them from doing that anyway. The Avengers are public figures, they already know what they look like.
A Few Things Ryan Forgot To Mention: 1) No Mention Of The Fact That The Hospital Hardly Had Anyone When The President Is Rushed In Even WIth A Huge Budget 2) No Mention Of How Gravic & Gia Couldn't Die If They Have Ghost's Powers 3) No Mention Of When The Skrolls Rebel Against Gravic They Fail To Use The Machine Themselves So They Can Take Him 4) No Mention Of How The Reveal Of Rhodey In The End Ruins So Much Of The MCU Prior 5) No Mention Of How The President Asked For A Gun But Wasn't The One To Take Down Skroll Rhodey After Remembering How Out Of Character It Was For Him To Show Up With Him Smelling Like Alcohol 6) No Asking Why The Hell Furry Would Collect Avengers DNA To Begin WIth & If The Skrolls Were Already Working Against Him Why They Didn't Just Keep It For Themselves Right There 7) No Addressing How Overpowered Gia Is Now 8) No Mention Of How Out Of Nowhere It Feels That The Kree Just Want To Negotiate A Peace Treaty With The Skrulls When That Should Be Built Up Towards 9) No Mention Of The Fact That They Told The Director Not To Read The Comcis 10) No Mention The Director's Response To Fans Of How He Doesn't Care If They Don't Like It, He Wanted To Make Something Only He Would Like That Was Given $220 Million 11) No Mention Of How There's No Explanation For Why Skroll Fury Talos Didn't Just Help Clear Peter's Name After He Was Framed For Murder 12) No Mention Of How This Goes From A Spy Thriller That Feels Like The "Andor" Of The MCU To Just Generic Same Old Crap 13) No Mention Of Why Skrull Rhodey Wouldn't Just Mention The Garden Planet Thanos Was On & The Skrulls Could Just Live There 14) No Mention Of That Really Cool Surprise Gravic Pulled On Talos Being Spoiled In The Trailer 15) No Clever Twist Where One Of The Ryan Georgre's Is Actually A Skroll Hired By DC To Tank The MCU Ryan George: HEYSHUTUP-HEYSHUTUP-HEYSHUTUP-HEYSHUTUP-HEYSHUTUP
No Mention The Director's Response To Fans Of How He Doesn't Care If They Don't Like It, He Wanted To Make Something Only He Would Like That Was Given $220 Million translation: I got paid!
I didn’t like the show and I don’t like what they did with Maria but I haven’t seen anyone consider the possibility that Cobie Smulders was basically done with Marvel and didn’t want to do an entire tv show. Maybe marvel asked how she felt and they had ideas of killing her and she said she wanted to wrap up asap. I’m not saying it’s even likely but she’s been doing Marvel forever, and maybe wants to stop like a lot of the phase one actors do.
I thought it would have been better if he got overcharged with too many powers and exploded. Then, say that four is the limit setting up the Superskrull for the Fantastic Four
With the significant changes made to the Skrulls in the MCU, it's no surprise the narrative of Secret Invasion struggled to succeed. The transformation of an Interstellar Galactic Empire into sympathetic refugees undermines the tension, spy thriller elements, and even alters the character of Nick Fury. The comics, however, offered compelling reasons for Fury's hesitance to immediately call the Avengers. Following the discovery of a Skrull posing as a deceased superhero, a pivotal member of Fury's inner circle, Mockingbird, was exposed as a Skrull spy. Mockingbird's betrayal deeply shook Fury, a character known for his deep mistrust and Batman-level paranoia. This created an intricate web of suspense and tension, as the readers and characters grappled with the uncertainty of whom to trust. Such intricate buildup was lacking in the MCU adaptation ( which has this video pointed out, is worsened because the show kept revealing who the Skrulls were the second they came on screen). The comics' storylines cleverly intertwined with the Illuminati's capture, leading to the Skrulls' thorough knowledge of how to infiltrate and avoid various forms of protection. This level of complexity was notably absent in the TV show. Furthermore, the comics' revelation that the Skrulls influenced events like the Superhuman Civil War, the superhero registration Act, and the mutant Massacre (less so in this one) added depth and impact to they're intentional level of preparedness for everything that was to come. They were not refugees who got tired of being overlooked by A system that didn't care, they were conquering Invaders who, at the behest of their politicians, religious leaders, and desire for their specific cultural advancement, had no problem taking over what they perceive to be a world ruled by inferior creatures who can just be swatted out of the way. Overall, the significant deviations in character motivations, tension-building, and narrative intricacies contributed to the underwhelming adaptation of Secret Invasion in the MCU.
But Nick Fury explains that he can't call the Avengers because they might be impersonated and framed as terrorists. So it makes complete sense if we assume Nick has gone so senile he's forgotten that the Skrulls' shape shifting has nothing to do with proximity and they could already copy them if they wanted to.
To play Devil's advocate here, blowing a hole through the chest of someone with Extremis's healing powers is exactly how Tony kills someone in Iron Man 3. So, they had already established that that works.
It wasn't a budget constraint, since as mentioned, it was over $210 million dollars. As comparison, Top Gun: Maverick had a budget of $170 million dollars, Oppenheimer $100 million dollars, and Spider-Man: No Way Home $200 million dollars. As bad as it is to bring G'iah into future MCU projects, equally, or even worse, is not ever mentioning her again. You know, sorta like that giant marble-made Celestial that is in the middle of the ocean. 7:45 the "back flip" part, is a reference to some of Ryan's sketches on his own channel. (czcams.com/video/708n4GCbTiM/video.html)
_How are magic rings a part of someone's DNA?_ 7:35 We don't care anymore and stopped trying. I will retire and Bog Iger will sell Disney anyway, so.... - Kevin Feige.
For me, the popular No Way Home - which got good reviews and made 2 billon was the worst thing to happen to the MCU. Because that film abandoned storytelling logic and character continuity in favor of fan service- and got away with it. That’s because SpiderMan has so many fans regardless of how bad the movie is. For example in that film Peter Parker ‘defeated’ Dr. Strange - even though just a few scenes earlier Strange instantly captured Lizard and Octavius by sling ringing him into his dungeon. The film just has Strange absolutely fail and refuse to use his most obvious powers just to make Parker ‘win’. Now you have to realize every director wants to know - why I can’t I just have bullshit happen for ‘reasons’ just like No Way Home.
I don’t know why they got Ali selim to direct all six episodes, he never saw anything mcu nor the comics. In interviews he’s said his intention was to change fury in these 6 contained episodes and send him back up in space for the marvels for the sake of continuity, ultimately it should’ve been a fury show. The title secret invasion holds a lot of history and expectations, could’ve easily been a set up for an avengers film
"Budgetary reasons" lmao. I remember huge blockbusters from the 90's and early 00's with smaller budgets that had better CGI. Terminator 2, Independence Day, Jurassic Park, The Matrix, I could go on. I don't know where all these studios are wasting these insane budgets these days because it sure isn't writing, directing or effects.
6:20 that's the key issue, marvel has exhausted their thinking power of world building and creating cinematic real life threat. take for example, last of us show. we don't see anything but an old 80s interview and just in 2 lines we were terrified. good writing leads the story better in navigating entire plot.
I recently heard they originally had pretty big shoots in the UK, specifically London, where they spend a lot of the budget closing down famous bits of the city while they were shooting. And none of that ended up in the series. That to me indicates that they scrapped if not all of the script, then at least substantial amount of it. I feel like im mostly tapped out of the MCU for now. They don't need my money, and i don't need to keep spending mine on movies that are as incoherent and inconsequential as the comics were in the 90s when i stopped reading them
@@awesimo4684 You'd think it was bad, but in a lot of cases when scrapping like that happens, it's not a case of quality, but the studio deeming the script or the material not fitting their idea of sellable. So it might be too explicit in what kind of a message it's sending, might be missing product placement in specific way, or not tie in to what the studio thinks is the most profitable aspect. Like the script that gets given to the actors to get them to sign up can be VASTLY different to the script they end up filming, and neither them nor the script writers can say anything but good things about the end product for like the next 10-20 years
I have been told that the Secret Incvasion comics were great and everything was on a much bigger scale with tons of heroes and Avengers involved and the Scrolls actually using the shapeshifting to their advantsage, so it's even sadder when you know what the show could (or should) have been.
To be fair , the comics version with so many characters was always unattainable for a Disney Plus show ....... But even with the characters they had , they could have done so much more if they had a decent storyline
I don’t think it Nick Fury fault that he can’t call the avengers, it the producers/Disney,, the budget won’t allow it, just how x-men wasn’t in Deadpool 1
They should have just brought in the Russo brothers, considering their experience with winter soldier, which is possible the best spy thriller Marvel movie.
Let's just clarify the story would have never changed if fury never gave him the powers to begin with. LITERALLY NOTHING WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT... He just made two overpowered shape-shifting aliens for the same results as having two non-god-like aliens killing each other the same way. Hell, Gaia could have walked in the room, faking illness as Nick fury and then shot gravik in the head.
He has extremis bro He couldn't have been killed by Gi'ah She needed something stronger then just earth based weaponry, she needed carols abilities Literally everything would have changed if the harvest wasn't brought to gravik This is such a dumb take
@@DecoyZ bro, they had the healing and durability of the Hulk, Carol Danvers, and extremis... NOTHING SHOULD HAVE KILLED HIM, but if a simple hole in the gut could do it when he's a mega skrull, a shot to the head would have definitely done it when he simply had extremis. People with Extremis have been killed that way plenty of times. They aren't wolverine, they can't recover from headshots.. so the story literally would not have changed.
@@ukyba Carol is powered by infinity energy from the infinity stone she came in contact with Easily destroys Extremis As for Hulks healing.. Eh Hulks healing is really iffy in the MCU and mainly only happens when turning from one form to another. Plus the hulk and Bruce aren't just genetically linked but are psychically linked Its hard to say how much "healing" they'd get rather then just the raw strength
@@ukyba he survives and probably ends up killing ritson? Sure Gi'ah also wouldn't have been able to die, but Gravik could have easily escaped once he realised it wasn't nick Gravik already has more powers then Gi'ah, she doesn't stand a chance in a fight
Ironman literally blew a hole through the extremis guy on the plane and killed him. "like what is happening right now" you can't remember 💩 is happening
Oh yeah, he should definitely still remember that one 5 second scene from one of 40 movies that released 15 years ago. And yeah, it was established there, but it was still retarded then. But even IF we granted that that somehow DOES make senes (it doesn't), then now please explain the other 200 issues with this terrible show away.
Fury: This is personal. We can't keep depending on superheroes like the Avengers. Also Fury: I'm gonna depend on one superhero who is all the Avengers combined. Also spoilers for The Marvels: * * * * * They couldn't find a planet for the skrulls but skrulls have been living on planet Tarnax for presumably a while now. ????????????
Im not sure why people thing there still Avengers left... Nobody currently in the MCU is officially on staff right?? With Steve, Tony, Nat, Wanda, Vision, T'Chala dead, Clint retired and Peter Parker erased everyone else is just an honorry member; aka they showed up for one battle. Except Hulk, who's maybe in space?? Isnt Fury the one who usually assembles these crews?!
I THINK Thor is still arround? But I haven't really waytched anything of the current phase so I wouldn't be surprised if they replaced him with an equal but actually better female version.
@@EskChan19 so you haven’t watched any of Phase 4? Or just 5?? Because if you have watched Thor Love & Thunder you know he hasn’t been replaced, they actually did the opposite of a woke move and fridged his love interest… so if it’s progressive politics you don’t love in your Marvel films I wouldn’t worry about it. Why watch reactions to Phase 5 content and then comment when you haven’t watched?!
The first Marvel Show i decided not to watch after it took me 4 days just to finish the first episode. I mean, i also don't watch spy movies anymore since Roger Moore was James Bond, and when i watch Marvel i want Superheroes and not some spy or military stuff. In the end i already said before WandaVision went life that im looking forward to Wanda and Loki, but Falcon and Wintersoldier and Warmachine and that crap doesn't really interest me at all.
One of the biggest most annoying plot holes for me with this show is that they have a planet they can go to, Thanos' garden world. Both Captain Marvel (who also promised to find a world for the Skrulls) and Rhodey (who may have been a Skrull at the time) were there and saw a perfectly viable planet for habitation.
I was literally about to type this out. Thank you for bringing this up. And the fact that food was ALREADY growing on the surface. Marvel has amnosia
There's so freaking many habitable worlds. And also there's already pan-species planets in the universe. Literally every Guardians of the Galaxy movie has shown os multiple of these worlds. They could have just asked Thor or the Guardians and they cpuld have immediately shown them literally dozens of potential worlds.
The universe is vast and in Marvel it's multiverse and they hv ppl who can access time travel and the multiverse and so much... I doubt there was a single habitable land .. besides if it had to be earth.. they could hv given them the North pole or south pole or the areas where humans are less on earth...
Their shows are science fiction but the writers are completely ignorant of science.
They don't understand that there are billions upon billions of worlds.
The Kree empire alone consists of 1000's of worlds.
The Skrull can travel to any world, they don't really have a problem other than the Kree hunting them, but that plot was abandoned in favor of..... nothing.
They also don't understand - how completely stupid it is that Nick Fury - a human on earth who knows *nothing* about Space that the SKRULLS didn't teach him in the 1st place - is somehow assigned to *find* a planet, for aliens to live on.
It's just dumb, and the writer/director doesn't care if his show makes no sense.
Skrulls like the cold after all 😂😂😂
The budget for Secret Invasion was actually shockingly high, $212 million. Yes, it's baffling.
Where did that money go😮
@@NadeemShekh-uy9zn - They sprung for multiple flavors of cream cheese at the Craft services table?
@@NadeemShekh-uy9zn To reshoots. MatPat just put out a video about how Disney has been handling their bussiness in his Film Theorists channel, it's called "Disney is finally Dead, here's why". Basically, Disney doesn't make projects with a clear vision anymore because execs want to be able to erase things they don't like even by the point where the shootings are almost done, so when that happens they call all actors back and shoot new scenes in a way that pleases their commitees. This accomplishes two things: 1) It ensures that we never actually see the original vision the directors and writers had for their projects, 2) It unnecessarily bloats the budget of the project which makes it harder for it to make it's money back, in the case of movies.
All that money isn't spent to make sure the project is as high quality as possible, it's to cover for their own incompetence in bussiness management.
Was it actually? That’s insane I literally don’t get how when a movie like across the spider-verse had a budget of 100 mil and was just infinitely better. They need to step it up for sure
Wow...
It was super funny every episode ended with the credit of special guest cobie smulders😂
It would of been nice to change it after episode one
Except episode finale
Her death was on a TV every episode so she got credit
Maria Hill was in the MCU for over a decade and seemed to have two minutes of total screen time. How does Nick Fury's second-in-command have less screen time than some extras?
They just fridged her period. After all this time MCU still doesn't know what to do with female characters except put them in danger or kill them so the guy/hero can get revenge. And even then they BOTCHED that, as Fury just basically dialed 911 Super Hero in the end, which he could have done before he let them kill Maria Hill. So many characters ruined. I don't ever want to see Nick Fury or Rhodes again.
@@summertyme5748may i direct you to agents of shield for actually good mcu content?
The wildest thing about this show was they forgot about all the movies in the MCU where they were on abandoned habital planets
Oh this was all in a different universe.
Or how in the first episode Nick Fury literally says that humans can't even solve their own problems so there's no place for another species on earth. Except, you know, for the Asgardians who just got their own city in Canada or something.
@@EskChan19"But Asguardians just look like humans." -Korg probably.
@@EskChan19 They aren't even trying to make sense or be consistent. It's just that they don't think it matters. Audience will gobble up Marvel no matter how sloppy and lazy their work...or...so they thought.
@@earthwormandruw The universe where the writers watched the other TV shows and movies??
Best part of the video: Screenwriter Guy keeps saying “Hey, shut up!” 😅
He actually said many times. I think this is the first video he said that line many times. This shows how many plot holes this series had.
If there is ever a budget issue for a show like this, DONT DO THE SHOW. We’d all rather not see it than have one of our favorite story lines turned into what it was
There was no budget issues this show cost over 200 million dollars, they were simply bad at making this.
@@EskChan19 and it seems like they still didn’t have enough money for what should’ve been
Where's the money in this show? Where did it go? I didn't see it.
@@bad-people6510 if I had to make a guess from memory, probably the sets and actors pay 😂 if remember correctly the sets were actually really decent when they didn’t use the volume, and then a lot of big name actors in the show
@@Pyrowith2os The biggest name actor in it is the guy who has a reputation for being in anything. The point is I've seen MUCH cheaper productions do much more to a higher standard of quality.
This Pitch Meeting was one of the most accuracte and straight to the punch videos and I am here for it. Ryan knocked it outta the park.
I can't wait for the next big Avengers team-up movie, where it will be Most Powerful Superhero Ever Created versus a dude who got beaten by Ant-Man in his first appearance.
not even Ant-Man was just the ant's🤣
Second appearance
@vijayanand6650 Technically first, because I think the one in Loki was NOT the main Kang. But I'm kind of past the point of caring enough about the MCU to keep track at this point.
@@SquiresIsle future kang’s won’t be this one either though so either every kang variant counts or none do.
Love Pitch Meetings and your react's to them! Well done Achara on beating Jaby to the "Nick-furiating" joke! LOL.
Keep up the awesome work you two, and please stay safe.
Excelsior!
Heff
Never been more thankful i stopped watching after the first episode til i watched both pitch meetings and your reaction.
Actually MatPat (Film Theory) released a fascinating video about all these issues that Disney have on his channel, and all the issues that Ryan George brought up is absolutely true. Disney has repeatedly doing a same mistake over and over again, just for the sake of money. If you look at the amount of Budget that have been put into the recent projects, it will blow you mind. 200 mill for this show and 80% of it was spend for reshoots and shit. If they somehow don't manage to change their course, I'm afraid all the future project is doomed to face a similar fate.
Yeah, most directors they have for their projects are just slapped on and don't want to do them. They don't have a passion for the project but also the people who run Disney hate directors who care about the source material by admission during at least one interview.
matt patt
@@silentassason Yeah. Unfortunately it's true. I've heard so many stories about directors and writers leaving projects, just because Disney forced their hands to change the main idea and the first pitch of those projects. If you look closely, all of the recent contents of Disney (Movie or TV alike) has essentially been the same idea/formula, repeated over and over again. Whether it's a Star Wars or Marvel or Indiana Jones or even Live-action remakes of the past animated stuff, it has the same story. An old or Mature protagonist who's beat up and hopeless and miserable now, and it takes a younger generation to remind him/her to be a hero again (Luke Skywalker, Nick Fury, Indiana Jones, etc.) See?! It's all one shitty formula, just being put out there, not for the sake of a good or inspiring story or to respect the fans, but for the sake of money and income.
@@IjustFelix sorry for the misspelling. I meant MatPat. Good catch though! Lol 😂
I was actually going to bring up the same video, I agree it is an interesting video seeing all these mistakes he bring up that Disney is doing
This is one of my new favorite Pitch meeting!
Does anyone else remember hearing about that project manager from Disney who said they hate when directors and other members of projects when they care about the source material?
I love how this pitch meeting does such a great job of beginning to scratch the surface of all the problems with this show.
Love the video! Jaby and Achara, if y'all are looking for more games to react to, I highly recommend the Telltale games. Walking Dead game usually is the popular one but I think you both would enjoy something with a tighter story such as Batman: Telltale, or Wolf Among Us which is a mystery story that has all the Fables from folklore stories in one town with the Big Bad Wolf as the detective. Pretty good stuff. Keep up the good work.
Instantly answered my prayers
i was waiting for this 😂
As were we all! 😊
The budget was more than twice that of Oppenheimer. 212 million dollars.
Will you guys do the Hones Trailer on Secret Invasion as well? They have some funny stuff to say too
“Hey shut up!” - Ryan George
To be fair, Iron Man 3 did establish that you can kill someone with Extremis by blasting a hole through their chest, since Iron Man did the same thing to someone during the Air Force One scene. Doesn't make it make more sense, but it is internally consistent. That's the only thing I'll defend though.
True, but in Iron Man 3, the blast was big and directly targeted at the heart area. In Secret Invasion, it looked like a small hole in the stomach
I guess she saw Iron Man 3 and he didn't.
Right when final battle begin gravik and giah, i was like how is this fight going to end? And just like he just died
I have a feeling that there won't be a season 2 for Secret Invasion.
Yes. How did he verify the DNA, what did he compare the DNA in the vile against?
Im.just about to watch the honestly trailer but the pitch meeting is out 😢
My favorite people on CZcams 🎉
Has achara and steph seen blade
This should have been a movie. They could have just given us subtle hints through phase 4&5 like they gave for Thanos and then ab Avengers secret wars movie
Secret invasion without the Avengers was like French toast without the bread.
Or biriyani without rice.
Or vegan burgers. LOL
The integral part is missing!
to be fair they did show in IronMan 3 that you can kill a person with extrimis in them if u shot them thru the chest...Tony did that to the guy on the plane
Dare I say, ScreenCrush has a great take on how the Secret Invasion storyline could have been handled. Makes one weep for what we might have gotten had we still been in the golden age of the MCU.
I kept expecting a third act twist as a dramatic reveal:
Gravis, "You think we Skrulls are rebelling because you failed to find us a habitable world, Fury? No. You found one, many in fact, but CHOOSE not to tell us and forfeit your leash. Humanity will suffer because of your betrayal!"
7:52 I mean, when Iron man killed an extremist guy on a plane, he blew a hole through his chest and that did the trick
He is so good
Now, scenarios:
Fury has been outside the planet since endgame,and in the entire show it's called out that he actually has no idea how things are moving on earth because he's too focused on creating defenses in orbit for alien invasions.
The avengers are gone,like,gone GONE.
And in any show has been mentioned that nobody is even trying to put together a new team. Specially because all the problems that the avengers had with global leaders in the past,where they basically did whatever the f they wanted.
And also because they've illegally experimented with something that could rip apart universes, exposing earth to a new Thanos.
Shield is also long gone (so Fury is not director anymore) and now there's sword,which was directed by a corrupted guy (potentially skrull) who also prevented Monica to go into space with Fury.
In 'far from home' Thalos is the one who interacted with spiderman (and even if it was Fury,he wouldn't even remember who Peter is.)
Neither Thor or the Asgardians ever answered to him.
The thunderbolts are a clandestine group assembled by Val (who could easily be also an Skrull)
There's also damage control, potentially a skrull organisation as well.
Nobody knows about the eternals.
Hulk is potentially out of the planet.
Kamala is a teenager...
White vision is probably just reactivated (if he is active, because 'WV' happened during 'FFH',and Fury received the call in the end, this probably happened while everyone was losing awareness of Peter)
The only time in the entire MCU that Fury came into battle with reinforcements has been in 'age of Ultron' where he brought war machine... Yeah... He actually tried to call for his assistance,and he ended up being Skrull.
So no, there's no one Fury could've actually called for the Skrulls but Gaia (who was already directly involved)
WWIII is not even an excuse to call Carol neither, because WWIII could literally start any day for any reason.
Imagine! "Hey Carol! Yeah,is me again! Look... So,the new president twitted something this morning... You might want to check it out."😂😂
And also calling other superheroes when you know that they could be easily replaced (if they're not already)
About Gaia being the "strongest" is debatable. Neither she or gravick utilized the powers for too long.
When she put gravick to sleep he woke up almost immediately...
I totally see that there might be a lot of limitations on that, specially trying to keep up with a body that is using multiple types of anatomies...
The thing is that all the answers for the questions that the internet had,were presented in previous projects.
And people shouldn't being expecting any avengers level type of action in phase 4, because it is meant to be the same that phase 1.
Mostly introduction of characters & contexts are meant to be shown.
At least until 'the marvel's' which is literally the first teaming up of heroes since 'end game'. (Finally colliding the stories)
"What if"? is a classic trope.
Has she seen The Fly though?
Plot was like X-men First Class
Achara, are you in anti-phishing corporate training videos by any chance? I could have sworn I saw you in one the other day
I was also concerned that ALL of the heroes DNA was mixed together in a one-size-fits-all soup.
And villains too.
I’m surprised he didn’t make a meta skrull joke about how the executive and the writer both have the same face.
I thought there was a writers strike going on. Who is writing all these shows?
Concerning how Gravik died. Remember that is exactly how the guy who had extremism powers was killed by Tony Stark on Air Force one in Iron Man three. He shot a pulsar blast through the man’s midsection. So basically they did have precedence.
extremism 💀
World War 3 > Don't call the Avengers
Robot wants to throw big rock > Call the Avengers ...
Peacemaker had better invasion than secret invasion 😅(butterflies taking identity of people)
Now you just convinced me to watch Peacemaker. I almost forgot about that one. 😁
the excuse its not in the budget mean nothing when the theorized cost of the show is over 200 million
There was a western tv show in the 50s/60s called Wagontrain.
Gene Roddenberry piched Star Trek as Wagontrain to the Stars.
So, 4 words down to 3 in 60 odd years isn't bad, I guess.
I don't wanna hear about budget excuses! It's FN DISNEY!
You forgot “Captain & Tennille”
I think that Spider-Man: Far from Home was a better Secret Invasiom Story than Secret Invasion. We don't figure out that Maria Hill and Nick Fury was switched out with skrulls until the very very end of the film. And also they also put some very small hits you could easily overlook. That's something I would have wanted out of the show.
I loved this one more than Honest Trailers even though bot are good.
I didn't know Ebony Maw was magic. I thought he just had telekinesis.
True
As far as we know only Doctor Strange knew magic during Endgame, remember Wanda got her powers by some scientific research on her using infinity stones and she was not aware of her magical ability during Endgame. So that means Ebony Maw has very advanced telekinesis power.
@@sathishb-bs7do I'm pretty sure the idea is the mindstone just unlocked Scarlet Witch's potential. Not sure how it gave Quicksilver super speed though. I don't even know who Magneto's dna would give him super speed. That's a physical power and he has an elemental power.
I mean if he doesn't have the DNA of those heros than how would his system will recognise them you can put any name on those files and put captain direa in it he won't know it
yes the pitch meeting 🙂
6:42 jaby u should watch avengers endgame
Something similar to this happened in that movie
they could've given gravik those weird "powers" like the compound v rejects at the red river compound (from the boys). but the reaction has me thinking now that skrulls of the soldier class could only pick the forms of living humans (but only if they were captured and locked up in those bed contraptions) or the forms of dead humans (like gravik and vara chose). has you wondering how nick fury's volunteers at the start just went and changed shape to whatever human they were thinking about at the time. anyway, trying to take a ff4 villain and making them nick fury's nemesis was a tragic mistake. maybe they'll just write it off as some bad dream fury had on the saber station.
Or just make it so that you can HAVE all the powers... but you burn yourself out in 19 hours. For a fanatic that wouldn't matter as in that time he could raze the world like he wants... and it makes the sacrifice of his opponent more poignant.
$200 million plus budget? I don't think budget was the issue.
To be fair on one point, iron man killed the main extremis henchman on Air Force One by blowing a hole in this chest too, removing his heart.
Marvel used to be the hollywood outsiders. Once they became the insiders it was all over.
Jaby was ... "N. Fury-ated" ... by questions.
In the Marvels the skulls had a planet, sooooo …???? Who the heck knows who the continuity coordinator is anymore
What if the Skrulls what? What if the Skrulls impersonate the Avengers? There's nothing stopping them from doing that anyway. The Avengers are public figures, they already know what they look like.
200mil, budget limitations? Where? Where sir , where?
A Few Things Ryan Forgot To Mention:
1) No Mention Of The Fact That The Hospital Hardly Had Anyone When The President Is Rushed In Even WIth A Huge Budget
2) No Mention Of How Gravic & Gia Couldn't Die If They Have Ghost's Powers
3) No Mention Of When The Skrolls Rebel Against Gravic They Fail To Use The Machine Themselves So They Can Take Him
4) No Mention Of How The Reveal Of Rhodey In The End Ruins So Much Of The MCU Prior
5) No Mention Of How The President Asked For A Gun But Wasn't The One To Take Down Skroll Rhodey After Remembering How Out Of Character It Was For Him To Show Up With Him Smelling Like Alcohol
6) No Asking Why The Hell Furry Would Collect Avengers DNA To Begin WIth & If The Skrolls Were Already Working Against Him Why They Didn't Just Keep It For Themselves Right There
7) No Addressing How Overpowered Gia Is Now
8) No Mention Of How Out Of Nowhere It Feels That The Kree Just Want To Negotiate A Peace Treaty With The Skrulls When That Should Be Built Up Towards
9) No Mention Of The Fact That They Told The Director Not To Read The Comcis
10) No Mention The Director's Response To Fans Of How He Doesn't Care If They Don't Like It, He Wanted To Make Something Only He Would Like That Was Given $220 Million
11) No Mention Of How There's No Explanation For Why Skroll Fury Talos Didn't Just Help Clear Peter's Name After He Was Framed For Murder
12) No Mention Of How This Goes From A Spy Thriller That Feels Like The "Andor" Of The MCU To Just Generic Same Old Crap
13) No Mention Of Why Skrull Rhodey Wouldn't Just Mention The Garden Planet Thanos Was On & The Skrulls Could Just Live There
14) No Mention Of That Really Cool Surprise Gravic Pulled On Talos Being Spoiled In The Trailer
15) No Clever Twist Where One Of The Ryan Georgre's Is Actually A Skroll Hired By DC To Tank The MCU
Ryan George: HEYSHUTUP-HEYSHUTUP-HEYSHUTUP-HEYSHUTUP-HEYSHUTUP
No Mention The Director's Response To Fans Of How He Doesn't Care If They Don't Like It, He Wanted To Make Something Only He Would Like That Was Given $220 Million
translation: I got paid!
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@@summertyme5748 I listed that in here
@@westwardmedia9375 Did you intentionally called Fury, Furry? lol.
@@blessanabey8386 I was wondering that 😅
I didn’t like the show and I don’t like what they did with Maria but I haven’t seen anyone consider the possibility that Cobie Smulders was basically done with Marvel and didn’t want to do an entire tv show. Maybe marvel asked how she felt and they had ideas of killing her and she said she wanted to wrap up asap. I’m not saying it’s even likely but she’s been doing Marvel forever, and maybe wants to stop like a lot of the phase one actors do.
I thought it would have been better if he got overcharged with too many powers and exploded. Then, say that four is the limit setting up the Superskrull for the Fantastic Four
With the significant changes made to the Skrulls in the MCU, it's no surprise the narrative of Secret Invasion struggled to succeed. The transformation of an Interstellar Galactic Empire into sympathetic refugees undermines the tension, spy thriller elements, and even alters the character of Nick Fury. The comics, however, offered compelling reasons for Fury's hesitance to immediately call the Avengers.
Following the discovery of a Skrull posing as a deceased superhero, a pivotal member of Fury's inner circle, Mockingbird, was exposed as a Skrull spy. Mockingbird's betrayal deeply shook Fury, a character known for his deep mistrust and Batman-level paranoia. This created an intricate web of suspense and tension, as the readers and characters grappled with the uncertainty of whom to trust. Such intricate buildup was lacking in the MCU adaptation ( which has this video pointed out, is worsened because the show kept revealing who the Skrulls were the second they came on screen).
The comics' storylines cleverly intertwined with the Illuminati's capture, leading to the Skrulls' thorough knowledge of how to infiltrate and avoid various forms of protection. This level of complexity was notably absent in the TV show. Furthermore, the comics' revelation that the Skrulls influenced events like the Superhuman Civil War, the superhero registration Act, and the mutant Massacre (less so in this one) added depth and impact to they're intentional level of preparedness for everything that was to come. They were not refugees who got tired of being overlooked by A system that didn't care, they were conquering Invaders who, at the behest of their politicians, religious leaders, and desire for their specific cultural advancement, had no problem taking over what they perceive to be a world ruled by inferior creatures who can just be swatted out of the way.
Overall, the significant deviations in character motivations, tension-building, and narrative intricacies contributed to the underwhelming adaptation of Secret Invasion in the MCU.
But Nick Fury explains that he can't call the Avengers because they might be impersonated and framed as terrorists. So it makes complete sense if we assume Nick has gone so senile he's forgotten that the Skrulls' shape shifting has nothing to do with proximity and they could already copy them if they wanted to.
Crazy isnt it? Mysterio comes - Nick calls Peter. Ww3 coming - he calls no avenger
To play Devil's advocate here, blowing a hole through the chest of someone with Extremis's healing powers is exactly how Tony kills someone in Iron Man 3. So, they had already established that that works.
Except they supposedly have other powers like Groot, who would simply regrow, or Thanos and Hulk with invulnerable skin.
@@summertyme5748 Just saying there's precedence.
You should Dracula Untold if you have not watched it.
It wasn't a budget constraint, since as mentioned, it was over $210 million dollars. As comparison, Top Gun: Maverick had a budget of $170 million dollars, Oppenheimer $100 million dollars, and Spider-Man: No Way Home $200 million dollars.
As bad as it is to bring G'iah into future MCU projects, equally, or even worse, is not ever mentioning her again. You know, sorta like that giant marble-made Celestial that is in the middle of the ocean.
7:45 the "back flip" part, is a reference to some of Ryan's sketches on his own channel. (czcams.com/video/708n4GCbTiM/video.html)
Gotta love fact they had enough resources and manpower to build a DNA machine but not a spaceship.
_How are magic rings a part of someone's DNA?_ 7:35
We don't care anymore and stopped trying.
I will retire and Bog Iger will sell Disney anyway, so.... - Kevin Feige.
For me, the popular No Way Home - which got good reviews and made 2 billon was the worst thing to happen to the MCU.
Because that film abandoned storytelling logic and character continuity in favor of fan service- and got away with it.
That’s because SpiderMan has so many fans regardless of how bad the movie is.
For example in that film Peter Parker ‘defeated’ Dr. Strange - even though just a few scenes earlier Strange instantly captured Lizard and Octavius by sling ringing him into his dungeon. The film just has Strange absolutely fail and refuse to use his most obvious powers just to make Parker ‘win’. Now you have to realize every director wants to know - why I can’t I just have bullshit happen for ‘reasons’ just like No Way Home.
Jaby has understood that steph is not the right person to watch pitch meetings. Achara supremacy
I read the budget was $212 millions, So I dont think budget was any issue.
I don’t know why they got Ali selim to direct all six episodes, he never saw anything mcu nor the comics. In interviews he’s said his intention was to change fury in these 6 contained episodes and send him back up in space for the marvels for the sake of continuity, ultimately it should’ve been a fury show. The title secret invasion holds a lot of history and expectations, could’ve easily been a set up for an avengers film
Feige is just finding random no talent hacks who don't cost a lot. I don't think he cares anymore. He'll probably cash out soon.
Now we got Sonya, a better Nick Fury because they wanted to change him, kinda sad.
"Budgetary reasons" lmao. I remember huge blockbusters from the 90's and early 00's with smaller budgets that had better CGI. Terminator 2, Independence Day, Jurassic Park, The Matrix, I could go on. I don't know where all these studios are wasting these insane budgets these days because it sure isn't writing, directing or effects.
Poor war machine
The budget was 212 million dollars 😊
Why do you put fart sound effects at the beginning of all your videos?
6:20 that's the key issue, marvel has exhausted their thinking power of world building and creating cinematic real life threat.
take for example, last of us show. we don't see anything but an old 80s interview and just in 2 lines we were terrified. good writing leads the story better in navigating entire plot.
I recently heard they originally had pretty big shoots in the UK, specifically London, where they spend a lot of the budget closing down famous bits of the city while they were shooting. And none of that ended up in the series. That to me indicates that they scrapped if not all of the script, then at least substantial amount of it.
I feel like im mostly tapped out of the MCU for now. They don't need my money, and i don't need to keep spending mine on movies that are as incoherent and inconsequential as the comics were in the 90s when i stopped reading them
God how bad were the scrapped parts given what they kept.
@@awesimo4684 You'd think it was bad, but in a lot of cases when scrapping like that happens, it's not a case of quality, but the studio deeming the script or the material not fitting their idea of sellable. So it might be too explicit in what kind of a message it's sending, might be missing product placement in specific way, or not tie in to what the studio thinks is the most profitable aspect. Like the script that gets given to the actors to get them to sign up can be VASTLY different to the script they end up filming, and neither them nor the script writers can say anything but good things about the end product for like the next 10-20 years
I was watching this dude react to iron man 3 and thy.ey killed one of the extremis characters by blowing a hole in them.AND I WAS like oooooo shit
They definitely were not fair to Cobie for this. Fun fact: I went to school with her. Nice girl, down to earth.
What about Thanos' planet on which he died in the beginning of Endgame, looked perfectly fine to live on.
I have been told that the Secret Incvasion comics were great and everything was on a much bigger scale with tons of heroes and Avengers involved and the Scrolls actually using the shapeshifting to their advantsage, so it's even sadder when you know what the show could (or should) have been.
Well it's been that way since Ragnorak. Totally underwhelming.
To be fair , the comics version with so many characters was always unattainable for a Disney Plus show ....... But even with the characters they had , they could have done so much more if they had a decent storyline
i know some of the reshoots were to remove a plot line about Russia and Ukraine as the war started
I don’t think it Nick Fury fault that he can’t call the avengers, it the producers/Disney,, the budget won’t allow it, just how x-men wasn’t in Deadpool 1
Also, fun fact: Deadpool was the one that found the weakness of the Skrulls.
They should have just brought in the Russo brothers, considering their experience with winter soldier, which is possible the best spy thriller Marvel movie.
Let's just clarify the story would have never changed if fury never gave him the powers to begin with. LITERALLY NOTHING WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT... He just made two overpowered shape-shifting aliens for the same results as having two non-god-like aliens killing each other the same way. Hell, Gaia could have walked in the room, faking illness as Nick fury and then shot gravik in the head.
He has extremis bro
He couldn't have been killed by Gi'ah
She needed something stronger then just earth based weaponry, she needed carols abilities
Literally everything would have changed if the harvest wasn't brought to gravik
This is such a dumb take
@@DecoyZ bro, they had the healing and durability of the Hulk, Carol Danvers, and extremis... NOTHING SHOULD
HAVE KILLED HIM, but if a simple hole in the gut could do it when he's a mega skrull, a shot to the head would have definitely done it when he simply had extremis. People with Extremis have been killed that way plenty of times. They aren't wolverine, they can't recover from headshots.. so the story literally would not have changed.
@@DecoyZ tell me 1 way the story would have changed if they gave him a fake harvest.
@@ukyba Carol is powered by infinity energy from the infinity stone she came in contact with
Easily destroys Extremis
As for Hulks healing.. Eh
Hulks healing is really iffy in the MCU and mainly only happens when turning from one form to another.
Plus the hulk and Bruce aren't just genetically linked but are psychically linked
Its hard to say how much "healing" they'd get rather then just the raw strength
@@ukyba he survives and probably ends up killing ritson?
Sure Gi'ah also wouldn't have been able to die, but Gravik could have easily escaped once he realised it wasn't nick
Gravik already has more powers then Gi'ah, she doesn't stand a chance in a fight
Even peacemaker brought wonder Woman and aquaman in the climax
A show doesn’t need to have big cameo finales for it to be good 🤦♂️
Do not pull the "budgetery reasons" card this show had a 200 million dollar budget...
Peacemaker>>>>>>
How do you get so much courage to say stuff which is objectively and factually correct
Daredevil better than both
@@NadeemShekh-uy9zndaredevil isn’t an alien invasion show but you’re right😂
And it's not even close!
Ironman literally blew a hole through the extremis guy on the plane and killed him. "like what is happening right now" you can't remember 💩 is happening
Oh yeah, he should definitely still remember that one 5 second scene from one of 40 movies that released 15 years ago.
And yeah, it was established there, but it was still retarded then. But even IF we granted that that somehow DOES make senes (it doesn't), then now please explain the other 200 issues with this terrible show away.
Fury: This is personal. We can't keep depending on superheroes like the Avengers.
Also Fury: I'm gonna depend on one superhero who is all the Avengers combined.
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They couldn't find a planet for the skrulls but skrulls have been living on planet Tarnax for presumably a while now.
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Let Achara cook.
Im not sure why people thing there still Avengers left... Nobody currently in the MCU is officially on staff right?? With Steve, Tony, Nat, Wanda, Vision, T'Chala dead, Clint retired and Peter Parker erased everyone else is just an honorry member; aka they showed up for one battle. Except Hulk, who's maybe in space?? Isnt Fury the one who usually assembles these crews?!
I THINK Thor is still arround? But I haven't really waytched anything of the current phase so I wouldn't be surprised if they replaced him with an equal but actually better female version.
@@EskChan19 so you haven’t watched any of Phase 4? Or just 5?? Because if you have watched Thor Love & Thunder you know he hasn’t been replaced, they actually did the opposite of a woke move and fridged his love interest… so if it’s progressive politics you don’t love in your Marvel films I wouldn’t worry about it. Why watch reactions to Phase 5 content and then comment when you haven’t watched?!
the biggest reason for not calling avengers is that he doesn't want to explain why he has all the dna of avengers
The first Marvel Show i decided not to watch after it took me 4 days just to finish the first episode.
I mean, i also don't watch spy movies anymore since Roger Moore was James Bond, and when i watch Marvel i want Superheroes and not some spy or military stuff. In the end i already said before WandaVision went life that im looking forward to Wanda and Loki, but Falcon and Wintersoldier and Warmachine and that crap doesn't really interest me at all.