How to Easily Build The Full Version of Xen Orchestra From Source with XenOrchestraInstallerUpdater
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Chapters
00:00 Xen Orchestra from Sources
00:20 Difference from XO and XOA
02:00 Where and How to Install Xen Orchestra
03:55 The XenOrchestraInstallerUpdater Script
06:27 Setting up SSL Certificate
07:50 Logging in
09:03 How To Update Xen Orchestra - Věda a technologie
Nice video. Struggled with this the first time i setup XO. Glad to see it's gotten easier. Might migrate my XO to this for the ease in updates.
Thank you for the help. I'm not a Linux guy but can generally follow instructions. And I was able to get XO up and running!
bro, you are a gem! thanks for your videos i just stumbled across them. have learned a lot about xcp-ng from you.
LOL this was SOOOO Much easier and faster than another video I followed for Xen Orchestra install. Thanks!!!
Great video! Everything worked as documented on my fresh install of Debian Bookworm.
works perfectly, thnx very much.
Thank you!
This same source can be run in the Synology container manager. Just search, load, up and running in seconds. Super easy!
It seems this video is just a refresher to the old one.
Looking forward to the back ups refresh too xD
That is here czcams.com/video/weVoKm8kDb4/video.htmlsi=74fqCPAHyNGpexh2
Thank you
this was needed
Tom, what size drives do you use on the source system? Years ago I did a 20GB drive and after about two years I couldn’t do the Update option so I choose install every time and it runs out of local disk space. My question is if install vs update cleans up the installations in the background? This could also be a byproduct of me doing the script install 3 years ago and things have changed. Just curious if you have any lessons learned and recommendations for the border group. As always your content is awesome and really appreciated!
I've built from source ages ago no script and no complaints, it's awesome, we use VMware now but may go back to xcp-ng
Still using vaporware?
Can you do a video on XOSAN or XOSTOR?
That doesn't seem to be anything out there on CZcams land
Not until the next version comes out.
Tom, can you do a video on XOSAN? It would be a huge help for people that are looking to move off of VSan as a major part of their VMware deployments.
Not until the new version comes out.
Is this compatible/comparible with the Jarli01 scripts?
I also seem to recall there's a requiment for the cifs-utils or nfs-common packages if you want to perform a file level restore (and be able to see the contents).
Not sure, I have not used that one.
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS I think the two are similar enough, I've used the Jarli once or twice and don't remember any oddities between the two. Once you have one of them running you can always build a new VM and build the other XO-CE script to compare both.
Wish they'd add a dark mode to the XO UI.
Version 6 will be Dark Mode and coming this year
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS excellent news 👍
Thank you (of course, as usual
As of March 2024, using Ubuntu 23.10, the script stops right in the beginning with an error "only Ubuntu 20/22 is supported".
Edited the script to circumvent this ☺...
thanks for the video, got it up and running in a vm in vmware workstation pro. had some issues about waiting for port to be open cause i had other services using port 80 so i had to change it to a port not being used. that red ? is going to be bug me lol. i wish vates had a homelab option to pay for their appliance with no support or something for homelabs like $30 a year or something cheap for home use to get rid of that red mark.
are you able to use xo-san and backup proxies when compiling xo with this script?
i'd like to know too. plus LDAP as well
No with XO-SAN, yes for proxies.
Hi Tom, thanks for this guide but i wonder ( i'm a noob ) you say in the forum for the commands to folllow " Load Debian 12 in a VM on XCP-NG " like you do here, but how can i load a Debian 12 VM on this XCP-ng host if I haven't installed the graphical interface yet?
Follow my getting started video where I explain that czcams.com/video/2wMmSm_ZeZ4/video.html
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS OK, I'll look right away, thanks again!
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS so install the paid trial version initially?
@@epictetus8028 Yes
Just a few months later, and since I've got a Minisforum HM80 I'm running XCP-ng 8.3 beta2, which includes an already enabled XO Lite. Still extremely feature incomplete, and doesn't look like it'll have the ability to KVM from it, but if XO6 looks even remotely like that, I'll be very happy. Plus it's dark mode by default :D
Second time spinning up an XO instance, and coming back to this guide again is great, as I've messed up my initial setup and run so badly I don't want any of it but the hardware remaining (blasting and recreating the pools and VMs as well...I broke it *bad*, though some of that is because I started on stable and had to move to beta from what I can tell?)
You can do automatic updates via rest api.
I did all this and its all running. But it still says I am like 73 commits behind the latest version. Anything I am missing?
Thanks! and great video and easy to follow! NOTE: Should not matter but i used Ubuntu 22.04 instead of Debian 12
Doesn't work for me when I do install it stopped at xo-server installation and give me that in the log file : yarn: error: no such option: --network-timeout
Thanks for the video, so annoying XO keeps removing the server all i see in xo logs is HTTP connection has timed out
Tom I have an older version of XCP can I update easily?
yes
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS cool beans. Trying to build XO didn’t realize it didn’t support Ubuntu server 23 🥹 trying 22 now.
Great!
Hello Sir
I have two dell Server both are Master, and both are separated pool, I want to have one pool and one master with to host. how can I accomplish this task?
czcams.com/video/jvhUY81pBw0/video.htmlsi=4xjePAH7AuHliFQg
Does the source version include xosan and or xostor?
No
Also no live telemetry.
That script makes this so very easy but I feel like the video misses a huge step in the process. How do I create a VM in which to run the script when I have no Xen Orchestra to run the script in?
It feels like you either need to run it on bare metal, have an existing host with a VM to build it, or create a VM in your desktop to build and run it. Is there no reasonable way to bootstrap it right on a new XCP-NG installation? If not, I'm fine with doing it one of the other ways, I was just hoping to put everything on this server I just installed XCP-NG on.
I guess maybe it should be done with the xe cli from the terminal. Is that right?
Or maybe new users are expected to deploy the trial version of XOA then create their VM to build XOCE in?
Also, is it bad practice to run Xen Orchestra on a host that it's going to manage? I have, over the years, had multiple regrets that I was running vCenter on ESXi hosts that vCenter was managing. I would think that's not a bad idea when Vates provides a simple way to provision XOA directly on the XCP-NG install, don't they?
This is kind of the biggest home-lab issue with XCP-ng. What Tom is saying when he mentions 'VirtualBox' is that he's running a debian VM on his personal system, installing and running XO there. For Enterprise, this out-of-band approach is pretty normal, but can be really frustrating in the homelab where you're thinking "I want VMs, so I install XCP-ng... wait, I already need VMs before I can run VMs.... ??"
My approach has been to what you mentioned, and deploy XOA on my fresh XCP-ng node, then use that to build and deploy my source-built XO system, and then tear down the original XOA once my XO is built and running.
XO-Lite is being design to be a per-node management interface that would be running after you install XCP-ng, so in the future you won't need to do this; just install XCP-ng and then use XO-Lite to deploy your first VM for building/running XO.
IMO as a Storage admin supporting a massive ESXi based Infrastructure team, yeah.... running your Hypervisor Admin system as a VM on the Hypervisors its managing can have problems, but at the end of the day, maintaining a separate, standalone physical has other problems and ultimately the VM-Manager-As-VM-in-Managed-Enviroment solution usually wins out. But Tom actually mentions that he intentionally uses the stand-alone VirtualBox XO system for this purpose in the section around 3:11
@@blackraen Thanks for the explanation. Today I created a VM running Ubuntu Server Minimized and built XO in it, using my bare metal XO. Exported the config to copy it to the VM and everything is great. XO-Lite would definitely have resolved my issues.
One thing I found out since posting that is that XCP-ng is fine with being attached to multiple Xen Orchestra instances. That changes things a little for me. I can have more than one VM running XO on different hosts, plus I could keep one bare metal if I want to. A little less stressful when you can just use a different XO if there's a problem with the host for your main XO instance.
My Problem is the pricing is very high also small business, i hope it will changed.
5:00 with dns challenge no need to open any port. but the hostname gets listed in the public cert lists, as usual
i just use a docker of xo.
Very nice, but careful where you make your nest.
Within one year, KVM + ZFS and a couple of the upcoming fully free open source offerings, will take over.
Much more once Broadcom takes over VMware.
I am already using ProxMox for home lab. Several months ago I switched all of our vmware host servers over to ProxMox at work due to Broadcom takeover and other reasons. XCP-NG almost like vmware in terms of features so they'll feel right at home when they switch. I like ProxMox better as it's Debian based and can fix issues under the hood.
This software is buggie as all get out. I've had nothing but issues installing it. I'm a 30 year veteran and numerous issues arose during the installation. Prox-mox worked flawlessly. The system wouldn't create the ISO folder properly, the console during installation would come and go, the files uploaded to the ISO folders would stop before they finished. This was on a brand new HP server. I do appreciate the guide though. It was helpful.
I thought XCP-NG was working on a new interface.. That was a year ago... How is that going... One thing XCP-NG will never work for currently is its completely ackward and incredibly user unfriendly XOA interface... I just about hate everything about it and is totally un intuitive in 2024. Also error messages it spits out are completely vague and only sollutions are just doing google searches and trying to find wth is going on.
I find the interface very intuitive and easy to use, but yes they will have an updated version coming out later this year
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS Yeh I understand and it is also totally subjective of course... I'll keep tracking xcp-ng