New Vatu Buffs Made ME RAGE QUIT! (almost) - Paladins
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- Vatu got some rather interesting changes recently that were meant to be more of a sidegrade than a raw buff. Sure, Enveloping Shadows got a well deserved improvement, but his weapon was only meant to be the same strength, just adjusted to have a more convenient fire rate. However, what the devs ended up doing is supercharging his damage by giving him gobs more burst, even though his sustained dps remains the same. This has elevated Vatu from S tier to, well, the top of S tier! - and has infuriated many players who had to fight against him. In this video, AndrewChicken gets clobbered by a skilled player who shows off these terrifying buffs, and then demonstrates the power of Vatu himself. After all, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em!
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It baffles me why the devs felt the need to compensate the fire rate change with more damage per shot on a champion that's about burst and not sustained dps.
it probably was more so the CD reduction talent was more consistent. technically his DPS remained the same. With that said, buffing the burst on a burst flank wasn't a good idea lol
@@chrismonge3215 That's kinda what I mean. The change to fire rate makes sense to help make Enveloping Shadows consistent. But changing the damage per shot to make the dps stay the same wasn't really a smart choice. Vatu's game plan doesn't involve just holding lmb for long periods of time but rather weave in weapon shots between abilities for either burst damage or repositioning the majority of time.
Vatu should have a 5 second reload time which cannot be reduced by any source . If I were a dev I would start with that
Vatu is so fucking crazy, they should definetly nerf Vii
fr seven is too strong
That would fix everything!
and they should buff fernando, so vii is kept in check
@@sebastianaltamirano4991 A Primary dps buff on Fernando would really be good lol.
Lmao I love that Vii is the new genji
You deserved what happened to the first game after hitting me with 2000+ damage reversal! (I was the Makoa)
😂😂😂
EM thinking be like: Hmmmm Vatu is really strong.... LETS BUFF HIM EVEN MORE AND NERF VII AGAIN 😀
perish is just a crazy player man...I had the misfortune of playing against him on my first game playing kinessa in over a year let alone after the buffs and he had a furia corvus pocket 24/7. I managed to account for 5 of his 5 deaths (he went 17/5/5 and I got 4-0d but at least it felt really good hard focusing the vatu that was melting my teammates before they could even think of doing anything at all)
ps.
he was the ONLY person I managed to kill in that game. Was a rough time. 10/10 opponent would love to play him again but on strix next time.
To everyone saying vatu does not need a nerf, you are wrong, I will kindly explain, a champion thats that mobile being able to burst you down in 2 sets of kunai is just way too strong, just because he's a high skill ceiling character does not mean he should be more playable for low skill players because you get in a game with a skilled player and suddenly no one is outdamaging you, in the example in the video he still kept up with kinessa's damage on a map where flanking is rediculously hard and snipping is rediculously easy and yet he was still putting on insane pressure by himself, vatu is sinply too good they just need to revert the buff
For context: Maeve does 800 damage every shot, Evie does 850 damage every shot, and Vatu did 840 damage every shot. Now, he does 930 damage per shot, all while having the most potent damage combo out of the three. Imagine if Evie did 940 damage, or Maeve did 890 damage before Cat Burglar? This buff needs to be reverted ASAP!
@@AndrewChicken yea his performance in lower elo is just not a good indicator of his strength, that's a great way to put it though
I would agree that for his mobility that is high dmg output. But the guy that played against andrew is sus. Seemed like he nailed every shot thats why it looked so insane. When Andrew played, that was more of an accurate presentation of Vatu game play. There were more mistakes as expected. The other guy was always on target and Andrew and teem were destroyed. There's def something amiss
High DMG + shadow bombs + ambush damage, it pretty ridiculous.
even Maeve only has 1 bigger burst with cat burglar and the dash which does less damage than the bombs, evie has no second damage options whatsoever (besides snowglobe if you want to consider it as very long CD ability rather than an ult).
He defo needs a slight nerf to be more in line with the other flanks, Still I find funny there have been times where I drop the his whole kit into a kinessa, andro or any dps at point blank and they never seemed to go under 60% hp because they were being pocketed by a ying or an IO + having DR.
@@AndrewChicken There's no reason to pick Maeve over most flanks anyways. There was nothing here that is good at dealing with Vatu besides andro. If there was a lian a good Vivian or another big DMG hits can it wouldn't be that big an issue. Get a counter for a champ or pay for it. Maybe don't rely on armor plating veteran so save you so much and instead use your move speed and cooldowns and you'll be fine.
Andrew makes others rage quit with vatu. and now others make Andrew rage quit with vatu.
How the turns have tabled.
5:19 AndrewMouse
Andrew the shot you slow-mo'd against the bk, the moment you fired your crosshair clearly was not touching the bk, and he walked into the lingering shot trail. That being said you'd normally expect paladins hitboxes to count that anyway, but lol
Yeah... I know for a fact Paladins hitboxes aren't that precise. Really weird :/
3:23 the moment you clicked you shot under his right armpit, the trace made it look like it went through. Couldn't have been a nearer miss!
Are BK's hitboxes that tight?
You're right, but I believe that would still be an hit on Paladins
Vatu doesn’t need a nerf the guy was simply trying to Harding 4 no reason
bruh he does need a nerf and I say that as his biggest fan. He should not be nerfed into oblivion or even average tho. He's a good fun healthy champion to be held in high A tier, but this is too much
@@joaoalmeida5926 really why do u believe that
@@thorfan448 ult, mobility, burst, dr
Tryharding? What is he supposed to do? Lose? Andrew is on a 5 people party and that isn't tryharding?
@@thorfan448vatu can burst people down in one second and has one of the best mobility in the entire game. Even though he requires a lot of skill, that's still not fair for the enemies at all most of the time
Should make a video on champions that are really well designed next, to balance the negativity
That Vatu def got aimbot or something cause he never missed a single shot. If Vatu wasn't so light on health his death streak would've also been high.
Seeing you play with Vatu makes sense, you were good and got 14/3 ratio, 28 kills is sus. I play Vatu so I know something aint right with that player
Flankers like Vatu is the reason Torvald cannot and WILL NOT be nerfed anytime soon
in the early game you dealt with him well, only in the late game was he OP. also is omnipresence the best talent for vatu now?
I was an unerring player but dropped him because I lost 1v1s too often. maybe I'll pick him up again
btw you should play onslaught and tdm every now and then to mix things up. siege gets frustrating after a while especially if you get bad matchups
I recently started back playing Paladins a few days ago after a months long break. I remember vividly going against a Vatu who was going around absolutely destroying my team. No one could catch or counter him. I wonder why he was so strong all of a sudden and then I see this video. Good to know I’m not alone.
played against that exact vatu as kenessa and i almost went 0/7
Nerf his damage by 45 or 60 and he’ll be fine
When i play cassie ill have at least 5 shots a game where the arrows just go thru the enemies
hold it there no vatu nerf
Tbh in the androxus match nether steps wouldave easily destroyed vatu as with reversal talent to a certain extend against vatu, androxus is a sitting duck.
Vatu was created intentionally to counter androxus and make the game more balanced.. and now i can see it 😭
That vatu perish is a hacker
I don’t play vatu but how can he shot one hit and stack 9 kunai’s in damage? Wtf
hey Andrew, I am levelling BK to level 100 right now (am lvl 98) and it takes me like 2 hours for one level while playing in a party with 2-3 members and while also champ xp boosting and having the event pass. Is this normal? I see people level up way faster...
Sounds about right actually, especially if you're losing games here and there. Losses give diminished XP compared to wins, and with all those boosters it can genuinely be a difference of 100-200k XP. At a rate of a million XP per level plus factoring in queue times and longer matches, I'd expect levels to take 1.5-2 hours each
@@AndrewChicken I got about a 70% winrate grinding bk right now,
Haven’t played in months and I’m proud to see the game hasn’t changed one bit. The devs throw a dart at a board and just do it. Think about a character change? Nah. Just run it lol. I know the dev who made vatu probably isn’t there anymore but like, you couldn’t run numbers? Think about it like at all?
I KNOW THAT GUY! hehe hi perish!
Hey I played against him in this game. I was the Willo!
Also i swear the video felt slowed down, was that just me?
not to be a hater or anything, but I stopped the shot u said went trough the guy. when u pause perfectly u barely missed him shooting beneath his armpit. it hit to scan so thats why u missed I guess.
Nerf terminus
he complained the same way when vii was good btw. God forbid they touch evie. Not saying the buff was needed, if anything they could've reverted his damage to 300 per kunai and nerf his fire rate to 1 second. Again, character win/loss rate should not be the solo determinant for buffs and nerfs but ok.
Skill vs quality of life issues aren't easy to balance especially relative to each other since the current meta of everything has change. But compared to the past Paladins is def more fun to jam now. A few nudges here and tuggs there itll be close to perfect if not perfect.
Evie isn't broken like Vatu,and she was never as broken as Seven in his early days 😂.
You guys are so annoying. Everybody complaining about seven when he was meta and broken,and many people are complaining about Vatu now too,but when it's Andrew that complain suddenly he is "Mr Paladins",and he is the problem.
IMAGINE The Na Server find that caspian is broken too
You didn't even mention vatu's buff until you started losing 😐
Vatu doesn't need his buffs reverted... He needs them reverted and have a fat nerf slapped across his face on top of it. His damage is practically unreactable... And if you do happen to damage him, he zips away. I honestly don't think he's healthy, and hasn't been for a long time.
I thought u were actually gonna cry. Im sure the devs will listen to you and change his damage.
skill issue(yeah the buff to the best flank was a big mistake, and not nerfing him is too. he is top tier since years)
1st at all why the heck Evil Mojo Nerf VII But Vatu is now super annoying and get buffed
guss they are going to nerf vatu hard next uptade 😂
NOTICE ME DADDY ANDREW road to 100 part 43
when I use Vatu I don't kill anyone xD... but I see you playing Andrew and Vatu looks strong... I believe Vatu requires a lot of skill, maybe makes sense to keep it strong...
Was this irony right?
Vatu is a strong champ but that player was sus af, way too many hackers nowadays😬
Vatu is great rn let’s nerf vii
Bruh why tf are you encouraging people to go mending spirits instead of the gourd talent even though the gourd talent comes with a 40% damage nerf it gives twice as much heals and mending spirits is dambas worst talent i see people going it and in my diamond ranks people sell the game when they play mending spirit damba just go a gourd loadout and spam gourd and you’ll get 100k+ heals. Do not listen to AndrewChicken ‘s bullshit.
Not to mention mending spirits is single target heal while ripened gourd not only has a higher healing output it can heal multiple targets at once so this is why ripened gourd is simply better and I truly hope nobody falls for this guys bullshit opinions.
Andrew u overreacting tbh , I mean the vatu player was just good not vatu being "OP". Same goes to evie , when he is a good evie player she is unstoppable but noone said she needs a nerf. So stop complaining.(AND STOP HINTING TO BUFF EVIE)
I agree. Well said.
vatu is too strong, anyway nerf vii
Andrew not gonna rest till they nerf vatu to death (ofcourse his main (evie) needs to be the best flank
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Perish is a cheater
Perişh souds Turkish and our exceptional people usually cheat.
Vatu doesn't need a nerf, Evil Mojo should nerf controller aim assist, and/or bring aim assist to mouse and keyboard. The best decision I've ever made in this game was turning crossplay to keyboard only
vatu doesn't really benefit from aimassist tho LOL
vatu is better on keyboard and mouse, so what are you talking about.
Fuckin yapping holy 😂😂😂