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Why the Type XX is the Most Beautiful Military Chronograph (Hanhart, Breguet, Dodane)
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- čas přidán 14. 08. 2024
- A Discussion around the "Type 20" Flyback Chronograph. A Legendary watch issued to French Pilots (following the Hanhart 417 design) and used for decades as an instrument. Back then they were seen as utilities but today they are cherished as the most Beautiful Military Chronographs ever created with a perfect blend of Elegance and Function.
#pilotwatch #militarywatch #type20chronograph
Intro 0:00
Chronograph Experiences 0:52
New Channel - IDEA+ 1:50
On The Wrist 2:08
Military Chronograph Watches 2:45
Type 20 Origins 3:20
Hanhart 417 & Type 20 Design Request 4:12
Breguet "Type XX" 5:49
The "Type 20" Watch Today 10:03
Conclusion 10:53
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Are these not the most gorgeous pilot chronographs ever conceived?
I pre ordered the hanhart 417 es 39mm to add to my German watch collection. Too awesome to say no to.
Absolutely love what they've done to the 417 ES. It is dare I say perfect 🥃 You are going to love brother!
@@ID-Guy I will send you some pics once i got it. Will be around November/ December they told me.
You're the first bigger youtuber who acknowledges the superiority of the type XX's design. Underappreciated and underused, the Type XX is utilitarian, dressy and kinda badass-looking at the same time. Like a... Trenchcoat. Or a swordcane. 😅
It's hard to put into words how great of a watch it is... and you're so right about it being underused. Such an elegant piece of design that caps off that transition from "old world" to "modern" 🥃
What an interesting description and comparison. That made me smile. Well done.
@@ID-GuyWhat do you think of the 3800 and the Transatlantique version?
love my hanhart 417 es ..great history at a fantastic price / value point
I’m currently 12 months in to my Longines Avigation Bigeye 2019 ownership thanks to you! Love it. I personally wear it on a green Nato. Wonderful piece and it’s going nowhere!
And I recently found a Desert Sand nato for mine... hot damn, it's such an awesome watch. I'm so happy I was able to convert you brother!😉
And we could listen to you all day, as you educate us about these exquisite timepieces. Thanks as always!
And the pleasure is always mine Reed. Much love ❤
I love that Heuer Carrera that you showed. Absolutely stunning. As Breguet is my favourite brand I mainly focus on the Classiques BUT, you cannot deny that the Type XX is a masterpiece. The version that they made for Only Watch was stunning with its beautiful chocolate dial. If only that was in general production. Ahh, I’d be selling Watches to buy one! The Hanhart design is just beautiful and probably the most likely one that I would buy as it is the cheapest. Military Watches really are my thing at the moment and these Pilots Chronograph’s are absolutely sublime. Another brilliant video my friend. I hope that you are well and taking good care of yourself. I’ll be in touch. ❤
Beautiful Belgian Air Force piece, right? Probably one of the rarest in the world too (only made for one year). And all I can say is thank you Thomas. Thank you so much for what you have done for me and mum. The past two weeks have been the worst of my life and I have to hope things get better. From the bottom of my heart, thank you ❤
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Love my Breguet 3800 Type XX Aéronavale. Then again, also love my Speedy Pro, Sinn Navigation Chronograph and Heuer Monaco Calibre 11
All icons in their own rights, you have exceptional taste sir 😉🥃
Still regret not purchasing a Breguet Type 20 from a few years ago in 39. Still love that watch.
Those Aeronavale's are too cool... and to think that some of those OG tritium dials are turning orange now 🔥 Love them 🥃
I remember years ago prior to vintage watches becoming expensive I was in an antique store in Toronto. This guy sold military antiques. Lamps, furniture, badges, caps and watches. I saw so many gorgeous vintage chronos. I loved them but was to young and poor to realize my passion. Your video brings back some amazing memories for me. Thank you!
My Dad also restored vintage flying WWII planes in Ottawa's Vintage Wings. Merlin engines (ohh the sounds) for Spitfires, Hurricanes and Mustangs. Man the memories are coming back fast. Thank you!
Another great video. Such classic timeless design. 👏👍
Liked my lil nod to Lange in there at the beginning? Much love Russell and thank you as always sir 🥃
Well damn. Now I’m looking into Hanhart. Thanks.
Really wasn't a chronograph chap, but got the Bulova Lunar Pilot on a whim and it's become one of my favourite watches, despite being a cheap quartz. Seeing chronographs in a whole new way, so well timed with the video! Cheers 👍🏻🥃
Perfect design. Truly original DNA
They really are so incredible. One in a Million! 🥃
That Heuer issued for Belgian Air Force is simply stunning. Heuer Bundeswehr is another great chrono from the brand.
I’ve been looking at Hanhart 417es 1954 for quite some time now.
This purpose built esthetics just speaks to me. Form follows functions.
One of the reasons I bought my Marathon GSAR.
How freaking amazing is it? Only produced for one year and what a cracker... 🥃
@@ID-Guy unbelievable. A blueprint for military issued chronographs for decades. Steve McQueen was rocking one for a reason. And that guy could have pretty much any watch he liked. A true military issued watch is SS, super rare, it didn't get much cooler back in the day. The watch he chose and wore. Unlike the hyped Daytona, a gift from his wife, that must have been sold at huge discount with another purchase at an AD.
@@petrokersta5293 Love that McQueen personally rocked the Hanhart on a Bund and was given the Monaco for the film 😉 A nice personal touch (they should call the Hanhart the "Steve McQueen" instead of the bloody 1655) 🥃
Hanhart have a good product.
I hope their marketing team will throw all the heritage and history behind it. I mean they have a great story, why not tell it. Especially for the American market.
Who could not love a Breguet Type XX, being able to afford one is something else!
Chronograph watches are something that can be useful I love them can't get enough of them my bank account says otherwise lol. As always mate outstanding work 👏 👌
I feel you brother. Was really lucky to snag my BigEye at a discount but man... chrono's get pricey the second they start getting auto movements (and tricompax dials) 😉 Hope you're taking care of yourself brother
Other than you my heart is filled with passion for vintage chronographs. The watches you showed are just perfect in my world. Thanks!
Nice video
Mate🥃
Thank you so much Tim as always. I really hope you're well and rockin' 🥃
Speaking of Hanhart, I got a Dekla Turbulenz V1 from watch buys, bronze with a green dial. Stunner!
German pieces man, one of a kind. Great shout on Dekla pieces! They are superb value! 🥃
Fantastic video, many thanks! I'm also a total fan (I even bought a Hanhart flyback recently). Have you ever wondered why many of the pilot chronos have 3-minute-based scales? It's a deep rabbit hole.
That coffee colour dial man! Love that look. I’m the same the chronograph look leaves me a bit cold. I’d much prefer a time only display. These pieces are really something else. Great presentation as always.
Thank you Richy. There's something about how these machines portray themselves that's almost surreal. Such a great balance all-round. Have a great end to your week sir! 🥃
Great video. One of my favourite videos you've made thus far 👏
Thank you so much Steve. Really loved a closer deep dive into these incredible chrono's. There are truly none like them out there (but we can get pretty close in other categories) 😉
These pieces are simply sublime.
Out of this world, right? Love them 🥃
Wonderful dive into a category of watches that have such a great history of development. 👍
They truly are one of a kind. Good thing they aren't too mainstream 😉
Hope you’re doing well IDGuy. I’d love it if you did a live-stream sometime in the future. Best regards 😎
Honestly brother, this has been the hardest week of my life that I'm coming to terms with but my dad would've wanted me to keep going. Don't sweat the small stuff 😉 I promise to kick of live-streams again when I'm settled. They will return! 🔥
Fantastic video. There is just 'something' special about the Type XX. I managed to pick up the Hanhart 417 Red Lion last year. I never thought a chronograph would be my daily driver but here I am nearly 10 months in, and it is rarely off of my wrist.
Wonderful, comprehensive, and engrossing presentation, thank you! A spoken love letter to the Type XX.
I am myself a proud owner of the Longines BigEye since 2019. I have so many good memories with that watch as I took it with me on many trips in the U.S I really Love this watch to death. I am also lucky enough to own the Hanhart 417 ES in 42mm size as well and I am enjoying it so much, love the proportions of that watch. I am a huge fan of the type 20 design too. thanks for the video.
Not for the first time, I completely agree! I’ve come close to buying Type XX Breguet and Dodane chronos. But not yet. Such cool watches and I’d love to see a paired back, simple Breguet. As an alternative, the Blancpain Air Command is very close and an excellent movement.
That Air Command I should've mentioned... Ah, they're all terrific. If I could have one "collection" of vintage pieces, these Type 20's would definitely be it. Under the radar, unique and simply gorgeous. Thank you as always James 🥃
What makes this watch great is its simplistic design. Even for being a Chronograph and it’s sub dials you can read the time with the flick of the wrist. No excessive text or anything flashy.
Great historical review of the type. Like you, not a huge chrono fan - but respect the complexity of the movement and the heritage. Love those clean designs.
Simple yet elegant.
The only drawback is that they are scares.
Probably the big eye is most accessible.
Really dig them George and it's sad they are so scarce, right? 🥃
Excellent video as your usual 👍🏼
One of my fav chrono is my Breitling 765 Type XX. It was first offered in 1953 and the reissue is spot on ✅
Very nice watches, like all this design.
One of my favorite, not a type 20, is the Zenith CP2 Carelli
Beautiful Zenith! I've seen them come up for sale before and thought "what a banger". Amazing how these design languages translate and move over the decades. Brilliant watch 🥃
Fabulous video. Like you, I LOVE my Longines Big Eye. So much charisma: folks have to put one on their wrist to understand. Unlike you though, I could not walk away from the new 3861 Moonwatch (hesalite!), had to have it. They are just so different and the appeal is in a completely different place. Wearing the Big Eye to the Omega boutique, I swear that "big eye" winked at me it was OK and they live serenely together :) Two more fabulous chronographs you cannot have. I consider myself blessed.
I.D. GUY: You have a very enthusiastic and compelling presentation style. You could sell a watch to a blind man!
Those watches are awesome. Thank you for another excellent video! Have a great start to your weekend. 🥃
Hi matey. Look forward to this! Loving the Mark 16 still... May need a service, but such is life. Last one was 7 years ago....
Hope Scotland plans coming together ❤️
Closer and closer m'boy. I promise to let you know when everything is settled! And i'm so, so happy you're loving your Mk16. Can't wait to learn more about your relationship with it! Hope you're keeping well brother🥃
@@ID-Guy look forward to finding out what your plan is man. We'll have a drink and chat some day!
These types of watches makes me wanna get a pilot's license 🚁
As always I learn something new from your vids 👍
Cheers 🍺
And always a Fresh take from you Snow. Thank you as always sir 🥃
Thank You.
My pleasure brother thank you for taking the time to watch the clip! 🥃
Great presentation! I always get a good education from your channel, well done !
I have to agree with your view on the BigEye, I've had mine a while. Initially disliking it it when it was released it grew on me as it was just so readable at a glance so I decided to hunt one down. It took me a while to track a new one down but I'm very please that I did. Personally I prefer the black dial of the steel case version over the petrol fume dial of the titanium version.
Agreed on the colour choice Anthony. I've thrown mine on a Desert Sand nato and it looks sublime. Been wearing it a lot over the last few weeks and it never feels out of place no matter where it goes 🥃 Such a special watch to me. Hope you're well sir!
Hi friend, my name is Marcelo, I'm from Brazil and I'm passionate about vintage watches.
Congratulations for the excellent channel and the great video about Chronos militaries. I think one was missing from this relationship: Heuer Bundeswehr!
hug Marcelo
Really enjoyed the passion in this video. Great info.
The type XX has always been my favorite watch Breguet makes.
I love the Breguet Type XXI Reference 3817. That is for me THE pilot's chronograph to get. It's a flyback chronograph with a central chronograph minute hand. That's uncommon.
Breguet Type 20 was my grail but the price set me back
Great review, big fan of these chronos.
I had a look at a Breguet Type XXI because I liked the brand and wanted a way in. Realised that my aging eyes didn’t really want a chrono dial. When I was then shown the Classique 5177 white dial, instant love and even though much more money, it’s the one I bought. Type XX’s look a lot less cluttered though so I might take another look.😊
They are beautiful watches. I really want a chronograph watch, I have no need for one in any way, the only thing I can possibly think i would use one for is to time eggs. The new speedmaster looks very nice with the new dial and bracelet.
Great video as always 👍
With my budget i got the Seagull 1963 pilots Chronograph
Great video as usual. For some reason I can’t pull the trigger and buy a Longines, I love the brand and watches but something stops me. Keep up the good work 👌
I'd always say go after a Longines if you had the chance Brian BUT then there are so many other amazing pieces out there too. They sit in a great price bracket though (most of the time) where they're pricey but not ridiculous. The quality of build definitely makes them very worthwhile and thank you as always sir! 🥃
@@ID-Guy I have another look when I’m in Dubai mall at the weekend 🥂
Man what an amazing video!!! After the speedy, the type xx is the chrono i want to have, and definitely the Longinus makes that short list in conjunction with Airain, or if Yema gets its QC in order and releases one it’ll be ideal. Hey btw did you see the new colors on the pilot pioneer, just gorgeous
Great shouts on all of these pieces Manny, we're definitely speaking the same language. And beware of the Speedy 3861 if that's what you're going after. They are incredible. Those reissue Airain's... unreal 🥃
@@ID-Guy oh man I’m aware of the 3861, is just the almost perfect speedy, I love to swim, so 100m speedy pro would be THE perfect speedy, but wishful thinking aside, I’m just a speedmaster fan through and through, well moon watches fan in general, but the type xx, just speaks AS loud to me, and when I saw the longines a part of me said, we need that on the collection
+1 for the Breguet only watch being „mass“-produced. Doesn’t get any better.
I share the fascination with this particular family of watches. They are totally functional and military in appearance, but also have something vaguely gentlemanly about them. I’m torn between the practical option of diversifying my collection and the instinct to acquire an array of same-looking pilot chronos. That airain reissue looks absolutely lethal.
And that's really the beauty of them, neat and regimental but also gorgeous. It's a shame that more watches today don't aspire to go the same way. And those Airain's... amazing, amazing work done to bring them back to life. I've been following their process from the early stages and they nailed it! 🥃
Breitling AVI ref. 765 reissue could be another contender for that collection. Alongside any of the watches mentioned in the video
@@petrokersta5293 the 765 is stunning. 41x14 is big though. I think my pick from Breitling would be an old 36mm chronomat!
@@g83plude that's a great choice! I'm leaning towards smaller and slimmer watches myself.
Would love to hear your thoughts on Christopher Wards Aquitaine GMT! It seems to hit the sweet spot of affordability and premium features.
Y'know, I spotted a CW GMT on the wrist of a gent on the train a while back and man... it caught my attention. They have nailed the balance on that machine. You're absolutely right about the sweet spot 🥃
I was looking to get a tool chronograph and chose the mentioned 3861 speedmaster over the aeronavale Breguet, but it was a close call. No regrets, but the Breguet design and brand still gets me
Breitling 765 1953 re-edition is another great “Type 20”
Woo!
Hope you're doing well Gel! 🥃
Other words he may have had problems repeating. "Quantis Juju Bees Sal Sido Ford Fairlane."
Absolutely right brother 😆 Think that whole thing took about 6 takes...
I owned the modern type xx but I ended up selling it off unfortunately. Great watch though with crazy details but I just wish it felt more vintage so that Longines was the perfect choice
That heuer my god why are they not making this today …. Take my money
Type 20 is a continuation of German created military chronographs in 30'S what is the best chronographs not only because is BRILLIANT WATCH WITH BEST DIAL EVER but is full of history, heroes, exploration, bravely and everything. ANY OTHER CHRONOGRAPH do not matter how hand made or luxury do not have nothing in history to show .Excluding Datograph ONLY .What is in different class and change the game .
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Thank you as always Simmy! 🥃
Let’s see what new Type pilot‘s watch Breguet will release on June 6, 2023…
Would love to hear your opinion on the new 2022 omega speed master 57
Hi, very nice review. You may be interested to know that, while bi- & tri-compax now is generally used to describe the number of subdials, and logically so, this is not how the terms originally arose and were used. Dave Sargent over at Fratello wrote a nice piece on the subject this past August.
@@IDKline I agree, language changes and the common use is now to describe the number of subdials. I hadn't known the UG story until reading that article last month. I only wanted to share it as a point of interest.
Interesting how I love chrono's, pilot&fliegers in particular, and dislike divers and 3-handers. Navitimer, speedmaster, el primero... got 'm , and then some.
What is the meaning of the 3 minute chronograph scale?
I've been looking through the French Airforce specification but I can't seem to find a reason for it.
I believe they had 15min to clear the flight deck
Attaboy;)
"Don't sweat the small stuff" he always told me 😉
@@ID-Guy Damn right ;)
Your last sentence was perfect;)
4:46 It says made in Germany on the back.
Type XX Bi-compax (even better with big-eye) is the 🐝 knees chrono but jeez man, at $15,000 new for a field watch… it’s a hard pass for me 😢
It's a pity they're so pricey, right? Imagine a time when these might have been issued to you as a pilot? I bet even back then they knew the pieces were something special 😉 Hope you're well brother!
Patek 5170G-010 is a similar layout
Not really liking the thick bezels in the Breguet Aeronavale. Wish that it get slimmer in the future like the vintage models. Too polished.
It's quite odd how they've departed so far away from the traditional look in favour of a more modern approach, you're right. Maybe, just maybe we'll see the Only Watch models given to us as regular production pieces one day? Never say never 😉
You get used to it in time. Looks better with a few scratches on it. Also good for small wrists as it shrinks the dial a bit.
You didn't mention the best one?! Heuer Bund...
Aaaagh.... regret selling my Bigeye. I'm a total motorbike nut and speed guy but the military and pilot chronos are beautiful. Speedys snd Daytonas ....nice but I'll pass.
The watches worn by French armed forces always run backwards.
But hey, at least they're pretty looking 😉
The versions with date are IMHO ugly.
10:34 Just give me that one, and it's game over man.
I just can't ever forgive that stupid 5 hand design on the sub-dial. Absolute nightmare.