The Supersonic Pirate Exterminator Vehicle You've Never Heard Before
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For years, entrepreneur Gregory Sancoff sent images of his unique design to the Office of Naval Research images. But as he stated: (QUOTE) "They laughed at me; they thought I was crazy." Though discouraged, the visionary continued his work until the authorities suddenly showed interest - but not in the usual way.
After six months of intense work in his hangar, Sancoff got a call from his attorney. Frantically, he said: (QUOTE) "I got something in the mail, I've never seen anything like it, and I've been practicing for 35 years."
The US Patent and Trademark Office had sent a letter with a recommendation from the Office of Naval Research. It was a secrecy order. Sancoff was forbidden from filing his patents internationally or talking about his invention - not even to potential customers. And they didn't say why.
So his creation awaited patiently in a rusted and ivy-covered building of the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard in Maine… until the Ghost, the "attack helicopter of the seas," could be publicly revealed. - Věda a technologie
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58 miles an hour is a little short of being super sonic but at least the picture matched the boat!😮😊
It’s “like” breaking the sound barrier, but for water. Is what he said.
He never once said this boat breaks the sound barrier
@@armageddonready4071 if what you're saying is true, I stand corrected! Maybe I misconstrued that part?
@@td6647 I thought the same thing until he laid out the description of it being 'like' breaking the sound barrier but in water because of the phenomenon at speed. The title may be a little click-baitey but I'll allow it. :)
If the DOD doesn't want to try the a prototype they shouldn't be allowed to stop the builder from marketing the design to another buyer. That's just not right.
Agreed. The home team gets 1st choice on such things but if they do not accept it, it should be available to all comers. If the military does not
want this boat, they could buy it and sit on it until the need for it becomes clearer to them. Inventiveness should always be financially rewarded.
DARPA plays with "😮dark money -off the budgets".
I've heard of it. I've never heard anyone trying to call it supersonic. That would be the day when I see a supersonic boat. 30 knots, 55km/h or 34 miles per hour is not exactly what you'd call "supersonic" 😄
The supersonic is a reference to the flow problems.
Things start happening in water around 45 mph that happen in air at the speed of sound.
Trans sonic is the term.
Foils that work below this speed become inefficient above.
I usually catch one or two mistakes in his videos
@@hankadelicflash Well, whatever brings comments, and therefore more viewers and therefore money. But it's harmless per se 💁♂
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yea, thats kind of slow tbh, normal boats go around that speed already 😅
This sounds much like the M1 rifle used by the USA in WW2. It was developed by a Canadian in Canada, but because of the Government in Canada disrespecting the inventors knowledge and skills, they refused to purchase it and attempted to block foreign sale until the US Army showed interest. In World War 2 the US had an efficient and effective fire arm while Canada used basically 30-year-old technology. Thanks for this story.
True but the enfield is still a great accurate rifle.
Garand was employed at Springfield Armory from 1919 on and became a naturalized US citizen in 1920.He was not involved in gun design in Canada having worked in Rhode Island as a machinist from 1909.
Didn’t know that! Interesting! Please don’t disrespect Canada though, they are still America’s best friend and ally.
Wow,that is really cool. I never knew that.
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Bolt action. the M-1 Garrand was the first semiautomatic infantry rifle. It gave G.I.’s an edge over the bolt action carrying Germans and Japanese.
Pretty sure the juice wasn't worth the squeeze at 29 knots, imagine weighted down with weaponry.
I'm confused - how does a vessel like this protect large ships against small speed boats? It's low radar signature is pointless against such targets. It's revolutionary "high speed" of 29 knots is actually slower than most speed boats. Wouldn't an RIB be more appropriate - they're faster, can be stored on board and are way cheaper.
So it's not designed to fight against small boats with no radar.
It’s much cheaper to send a ghost out to fire a mini gun at a VBIED and blow it the hell up than to repair a $2 billion destroyer. And it doesn’t have to be faster. It just has to intercept. But it was mentioned that a 50 KT version was on the table. Also the low radar signature allows it flexibility to operate and gather Intel on larger vessels with sophisticated radar before a US NAVY ship comes anywhere close. So it’s good against hillbillies AND ships of war.
29 nots is like breaking the sound barrier?😂
No its the use of super cavitation to reduce hull friction, that is like breaking the sound barrier, but the reference as presented in the vid sounded like they were more focused around the advancement of technology to achieve that 29 knots in a medium sized passenger carrying water vehicle.
@@Thetauconqure I knew what the inventor meant. Was just making fun the video
USS Cole would have been protected by M2 Brownings, alert lookouts, and relaxed rules of engagement.
RoE was the real issue. The problem wasn't that they didn't know the boat was there .. or that they couldn't reach it with fire. "Ghost" would not have prevented the attack.
the issue began with jim carter and it's at a fever pitch now wippy the clown could have done better now Biden I cant even go there cold war missile NCO
@@user-df9rw6mz2x you are so militant in your ignorance: Carter’s insistence to cancel the B-1 and to go with the Stealth B-2 has been proven time and time again. All the wonder weapons of the Gulf War 1991 were developed at Carter’s initiative; none of the weapons developed by Ford and Reagan were used except for the Patriot Missile, but it actually failed to kill the Scud warhead. You need to get deprogrammed from your MAGA cult before you can think again.
The book "Skunk Works" explains what they think about the Navy's big ship admirals with new ship technology
Looks a lot like the Sea Shadow.
Someone please remind me what the speed of a carrier is? Last i heard 30 knots (56 KPH) Now if it went 60 knots - that is a ground breaker. This is just a fancy speed boat!
At least 30 knots. Actual CVN maximum speed is a secret.
ook, but how fast are pirate boats? also, a problem is how long and far this boat can operate. A pirate sails from relative short distance, is not like in the 600 when you could meet them in the middle of the atlantic.
@@kit888 So a redundant pirate boat that can't catch an Aircraft carrier... Not much use for it then.
@@giancarloga8850 Can't catch a carrier it's useless!
@@stever2583 it's anti pirate ship. And how many carriers are you running after? The russian one goes by tough boats, the Chinese one? Should have departed months ago for sea trials that are still being delayed. This boat was combat ready like 30 years ago? ALSO, forget about catching, and think about intercepting. This boat is stealth both by radar and sonar, so... Deploy like 3 of them in an area. If the carrier is inside will be intercepted, if is outside that's not our business, means you can't strike our merchant ship or our coast
Ghost could probably make use of some biomimetic shaping of it's props and wings, adding ridges like on the edge of a whale's fins would reduce the breakdown of the material due to friction and cavitation
the only innovation about the Ghost is placing the propellers in front, instead of behind the cylinders [that house the engines] as a result, the tubes ''fly'' in a layer of ''foam'' with minimum drag... that's all and it's big!... a simple revolution...
the ''wings'' are the gas tanks, and it's equipped with plenty of existing tech...
I remember this thing from the early 00's. About the only idea that has lasted from it is the super-cavitation because there is no need for a boat that can only go slightly faster than other boats. And the role it was trying to fill is done much better by air. Helicopters and attack aircraft have longer ranges of view, faster speeds, and more range. This is why this boat was forgotten. It was useless really.
Ghost was groundbreaking 20-30 years ago. Now it’s obsolete and has very limited uses compared to drones that can protect ships, various tilt rotor designs that are being looked at for future aircraft and other advanced systems that are being worked on or are already in use. Good mini documentary on the past trying to be the future.
You said it DRONES
Isn't 50 knots only about 57 MPH? Don't most bass boats go faster than that? Haven't we also had super cavitating torpedoes that can go way faster than that for decades now? This technology just doesn't seem very groundbreaking even 25 years ago. Now if it went 120 miles an hour on water while fully kitted out with weaponry that would be revolutionary. As it is, this just seems like a really interesting boat and not much else.
The French destroyer Le Terrible weighing 2900 tons achieved 45knots (52mph) in 1935! The 240 ton Pegasus class of US fast attack patrol boats could achieve 48knots (55mph) on hydrofoils. What exactly is the advantage of this new vessel?
a small wing-in-ground attack ship could go 400 knots/460mph, and fly at about 20ft off the waves...
Bass boats don't work well on the open ocean...
Thought the same thing... 200 Kmh (124 MPH, which is common knowledge) would translate (according to my MS bundled in Calculator in unit conversion mode) into just under 108 mph... that's a fair clip, but especially on water... not enough armor on this thing as it exists to be practicable, IMO... I guess this is probably best seen as a test bed for the hyper cavitation technology...
You must have never been in the Navy....ijs. Test trials @ 50mph is great. The potential it has is the key. Imagine handing it over and a think tank of more brilliant minds & a huge budget.....🤯
The Brits did something similar with hovercraft and the SABRE engine predecessor RB545.
Slapped them with secrecy and then did nothing with them.
it looks like the struts could be fitted with hydraulic suspension allowing the pods to rotate front to back up down as well as the existing spread. if the corners are linked through hydraulic pistons, they will allow for the rolling front o back as they go into and over waves. the hydraulic fluid could go through a turbine to power the vessel as well as dampening the suspension. so the bridge section would be even smoother.
My senior project in 1981 for my mechanical engineering degree at CMU was for a submerged hull boat which produced much lower drag. Hardly an innovation more than 40 years later.
sometimes you can be right but not right now
@janet_dream so true. My grandfather claimed to have made dozens of inventions. It’d be actually less embarrassing that he was lying to us than that he invented those things but made nothing with the inventions.
Robert Heinlein was famous as a science fiction writer but he made his fortune as an inventor. He is unofficially known as the father of modern irrigation. He lived on a farm in Colorado and needed a way to get water to his crops. Every invention was patented and then licensed to manufacturers. His biggest failure was a mobile phone that would fit in your hand. This was in 1957. Heinlein devised an entire system that would connect all of North America. When he tried to sell it to the Bell system, they dismissed it, saying, “Who would want such a thing when there’s a pay phone on every corner?” This was not a cell phone but an analog device that used a combination of AM and FM to create a unique phone number for the system. Thirty years later, a decade after his death, cell phones began killing pay phones.
Its an innovation when noone has managed to bring it to market in that time. Edison didn't invent the electric lightbulb, and Ford didn't invent the car, but they both got products to market in enough volume that they generally get credit for those inventions.
I can understand the secrecy since you know China will want to get the plans and copy them.
Reverse engineer
Try to copy but fail as always
The only reason I can think that the US government would be stalling and giving him a hard time is because his company is not one of their top providers.
Or trying to bankrupt the company to take the patents.
@@bradbutcher3984- I hope your wrong, but I could easily see a military supplier finding out about the Ghost and doing just that.
@@bradbutcher3984 My thoughts exactly, They refused to give the patents to DARPA (one of the US's main military development groups). So the Government is trying to bankrupt them to force them to hand over the patents. Fingers cross this guy is able to funnel funds from his other business's to keep them going long enough that the government can't stall any further. Because if he can that'll be one hell of a payout the government will have to give as they've prevented him from all internal and external sales options. costing possibly hundreds of millions in lost revenue.
I agree with you stevefranklin. Some House members and for sure some Senate members want to keep those jobs and billions of taxpayer dollars flowing through their districts and state.
"Reducing hull friction, it hasn't changed much since the Vikings" Try telling that to copper bottomed boats.
This is like the hydrofoil system.
4:18 “some yahoos in a cheap little boat & $500 worth of explosives” proceeds to build 1 of the best military vehicles to ever rule the sea! GHOST is an amazing piece of technology and it’s even more insane when you get to see it in person! I thought “Sea Shadow” was impressive due to its extraordinary design & size that nothing would ever top it. Then GHOST comes along. The “Sea Shadow” was the type of craft that would send chills down your spine when you seen her open up on open water regardless if you were an enemy or just an American out on the water the sheer size, flat black color, & the distinct sound made it creepy all the way around!
Man solves problem that doesn’t exist and wonders why Govt. won’t let him sell abroad…
“Remember that time a normal boat helped blow up a ship? Yeah, we don’t want the enemy to have access to fricking cloaking technology as well!”
The US Navy may not have been interested but the Klingons loved the design.
Now that was a good one!!
The secrecy orders were a tactic to try and force him to surrender the patents.
What a great boat for use in the next James Bond movie.
As of October 2023 (latest picture I could find online) the "Ghost" is currently on display at the USS Albacore Museum in Portsmouth New Hampshire. Looks like it went on display sometime in the summer of 2022 after they unsuccessfully attempted to sell it through a Yacht broker.
It sat next to a huge pile of road salt for years, visible from the Rt-95 bridge. I has been moved to the Albacore Museum a year or two back.
Is it out of commission?😊
Super Cavitating not Super Sonic. A supercavitating object is a high-speed submerged object that is designed to initiate a cavitation bubble at its nose. The bubble extends (either naturally or augmented with internally generated gas) past the aft end of the object and prevents contact between the sides of the object and the liquid.
@somewhat random The "Ghost" has been moved again, it is no longer in the parking lot at the USS Albacore and it did not go back to the Port Authority lot near the salt pile. I work in the area and have not seen it in over a month.
@@harborpatrolI cross the SML Bridge twice a day and hadn’t noticed 😮
One issue is that super-cavitating bodies are the antithesis of "stealth". Much akin to a sonic boom, super-cavitating bodies generate substantial sonar signatures as well as put extraordinary pressures on the screws during the transition to/from the super-cavitating state. Given its other stealth design components, I imagine the envisioned scenario is to reserve super-cavitation for interdiction (think afterburners), but to cruise well below that state for the bulk of the wetted hull's mission duty cycle.
If you have lived or worked around or in Portsmouth NH anytime in the last few years you have heard of and probably caught glimpses of the Ghost.
I wonder how maneuverable it is at speed and wonder if it out performs a ground effect vehicle?
This will not be maneuverable, and ground effect would kick its butt in that and performance overall, as you likely know. Ground effect drone craft would be my winner for the use case.
@@mokilokeI may be wrong, but I believe that ground effect vehicle's don't do well in rough seas.
The Ghost need to go to the Red Sea for a haunting test trial 👻
It’s really cool and innovative but I’m skeptical it will take off when we have actual attack helicopters and drones. I definitely see the benefits though
I saw that at portsmouth naval shipyard. I think it was being built there. It looked stealthy like some toy batman would have.
At the races at Lake of the Ozarks, a pontoon boat went 115 mph or 130 knots. I'm not sure if the Navy confiscated the boat, but Earl has not been seen since.
🤔🤫
You have your knots to mph conversion wrong. 1 knot is faster than 1 mph
That side profile makes it look like an unreleased thunderbirds boat.
Your commentary is hilarious!
You get super-cavitation at incredible speed!
If Lord Helmet drives the ghost what happens if it goes to ludicrous speed?
Will it open a portal to the netherworld and the emerging daemons will smite the enemies of America?
😂😂😂😂😂
Can a boat or ship increase the the blade angle at speed without cavitation ? Like an aircraft .
I mean I’m sure buddy got paid a whole bag for this!. But they definitely shouldn’t be able to tell you how you can’t go making something tho!!… It’s one thing to be like, well you aren’t allowed to build it here necessarily. But to tell you that you can’t build it anywhere.. NAWW!.. Personally, I think at that point I would’ve packed up and moved on elsewhere. Then just carried on with whatever I was doing, going about my life.. 😏🤷🏻♂️
Uh I am with you on that one heh heh heh
Looks like the Ghost lost out not being promoted by one of the big boy contractors with connections.
I would think both the British and Japanese would be interested , both being island nations and good allies with shared defense programs .
I drove by that for years now it's not parked where you can see it anymore.
No "government" on Earth could stop me from patenting anything I design
The Ghost looks promising. Wonder how well the design works in choppy water? There was a time when hydrofoils seemed like silver bullet technology. Seas turbulent enough to rate a small craft warning crippled the performance if not break the hydrofoils. If Sancoff's creation can function in this environment then there could be a future for this design.
I love that when out of the water, it looks like something the Empire would build!
Looks like a Spacecraft
Now do it with spacetime!
It looks exactly like the ship used in the James Bond movie where they stole the GPS system and nuclear weapons from a ship.
I was wondering what had happened to this unusual vehicle. First time I seen it i thought it was a sifi movie prop.
It is currently on display at the USS Albacore Museum in Portsmouth New Hampshire.
The limits of human ingenuity is these hurdles like denials because of vague reasons
I saw this during the experimental stage. It looks very cool.
Thanks for the video.
What is the intro music?
Currently slower than an aircraft carrier ?
Curious to know why they have “Super Sonic” in its name. Sound travels 2910 knots in water.
I'm astonished by how absurdly *SLOW* this "supersonic" craft is!
When you said it had been tested at 30kts, and was expected to reach 50, I thought "he must have made a mistake!" So I checked Wikipedia, and -- sure enough, 30 and 50!
The Freedom-class littoral combat ships, which are 378 feet long and displace 3,500 tons, can hit 47kts, without using anything so exotic as supercavitation. Hell, the Gerald Ford supercarrier cruises at 30kts, and it weighs as much as the entire state of Rhode Island!
So, while the "Ghost" may _look_ bad-ass, and it's cool that it has a small radar cross-section, speedy, it ain't. Not even close.
Gives me vibes of a game I used to play when I was a kid called Tigershark
HAY! i know that boat... I was a firefighter there until the USS Miami fire took me out of the game.
Its named "Ghost", because the money will vanish down a black hole, and the US will be left holding nothing but smoke! 🤣
I think a government unwilling to work with the creator has no rights to keep them from seeking other investors. When that much money is already invested, you either want it on your side or don't care, but you can't have it both ways.
Right. It’s a Cold War mentality. They want to monopolize all innovation but not have to pay for it. Considering the trillions of dollars gone missing in US defense spending over the past 25 years, they could’ve easily handed over a few extra million for this company’s R&D expense.
Even corrupt Hollywood pays screenwriters a decent sum to “option” a script.
I agree, he should have moved to Europe and patented it there.
Essentially, the heir to the Sea Shadow.
Wouldn't it be cheaper to have SWARMS of networked AI drones (to protect your ship)?
I mean, i guess Greg was planning the Ghost long before drones became so advanced and popular...
It’s the same principle that allows a torpedo to travel through water at incredible speeds. It’s a 50 year old technology
I believe its the technology used in the development of the craft. The 'Dark Tech" could be used in the development of future vessels.
The video spent so much time basically stating that yes, the government saying "Yes, we see value in this," and the creator saying "But no!!! I want more money!!!!!"
I wonder what material the underwater part is. Cavitation can damage props.
Myea. This tech was preceded by the boats built by Incat in Australia (Tasmania).
Given all the technology and dollars spent on reducing cavitation from submarine propellers to ensure silence, it's just hard to believe that "even more cavitation" is the solution for a fast stealth catamaran.
Sure, the design beats radar, but, my lord, if the military could catch the implosion of a sub going down to see the Titanic, there's no way the sonar systems wouldn't also light up like a Christmas tree the moment this craft begins to ramp up speed for any passive sonar buoy within a significant area..
Romeo Alpha Foxtrot calling Juliet how do you read?😂
I would have thought that a look out or two on both sides and also the front and back might have saved them some money and lives, but I am not in the Navy, so who knows.
This technology was used on Adriatic ferries back in 1960. It was called Hydrofoil
This is what you get when you let Gerry Anderson design your vehicles.
They should pack up and move to Australia ! I wish!
Not a single reference to Cutters ship in Tomorrow Never Dies? Cmon people
have a feeling the government point of view would have a different story completely
Sounds like they just want the company to go under so they can take the patents
Saw this a few months ago. Wasn't this buried by the dod? They blocked the patents under some national secrecy act and bankrupted to company last I heard, as they cant sell it to anyone else.
cool tech !
It looks like the Thunder Scarab from that hulk hogan movie!
Could it still work while carrying weapons and ammunition?
So, I see you've built a hydrafoil.....
So . . . What does this boat actually do that a helicopter doesn't do and faster ?
Imagine it with one skid ..
It’s a mini Sea Shadow, remember those?
Take this and develop on the sail gp boat, we might have in the future high speed boat travel!?!
This is very old news I’m quite sure I seen this more than twenty years ago
Btw,you got a black screen at the end of the video,just before the ad .
Otherwise, interesting design.
Lol, that's intentional 🙄 And makes sense considering the channels name 🫣
the power of the military industrial complex to stifle innovation because it wasn't 1 of them that had this idea
How our government can deny a person the ability to do business, but doesnt want the business for themselves is irritating. I am guessing our government wants the rights to the design but doesnt want to pay. Imagine that.
What's sad is it was adventully cut up for scrap metal
No it wasn't. It is currently on display at the USS Albacore Museum in Portsmouth New Hampshire.
"Supersonic"
I legit thought that image was clickbait haha, what a day!!
He actually said secret sauce
So a smaller Sea Shadow.
Forward propeller are vulnerable to debris. A terrible idea in the real world.
I think the Coast guard could use this to
heading: "The Supersonic Pirate Exterminator Vehicle You've Never Heard Before".. how do YOU know what I have heard about? For all you know, I help building them...
See this is a perfect example of an utterly amazing thing BUT our current government is so bad at adapting and working with independent small businesses that it greatly hinders the progression and dynamic adaptability that we are capable of... It's really annoying how stubborn our modern system is..
What part is supersonic? Did I miss something? /rhetorical
The old wait for them to go bankrupt and buy them out trick
Interesting infomercial you've made here. Hope they paid well!
The watercraft named Ghost that the gov has made...a ghost...ironic..