Always love a good “you wanted this” counter attack against aggressive AI, it feels so amazing when they start begging for peace after surprise attacking you.
Recently pulled exactly this as scotland. Thing that infuriated me was that every single AI started calling me a warmonger after taking one city, led to multiple spaceport sabotages.
The commercial hub/harbor with the gilded vault with tons of trade routes and 5+ adjacency campuses is actually cracked in the Tokugawa game I just finished I couldn’t believe I was overtaking the ai so quickly. Probably the most fun I’ve had with a leader in a while! Literally just pump everything into the capital and it almost anchors all of your other cities
It really is pretty crazy. I'm just about done. Turn 233, 28 population Tokyo, the internal trade routes to it are up to 10 science and culture, and I'm about to get culture victory.
I forgot about the double trade routes. I am so used to just going Voidsingers by default, and Owls didn't seem useful because it rewards trading with the City States over trading with yourself. But getting so many extra trade routes is definitely worth it. Even if it means giving up all my lovely Faith bonuses.
@@Skyblade12 yeah getting extra trade routes is really crazy when every trade route gives you 4+ science and culture (and tons of gold). After a while I just stopped bothering with city-states - it's nice to get the envoys, but trading with myself is just too good. Plus, because your districts give you tourism, you don't actually have to do much of anything to win a culture victory - just built chunky cities with loads of adjacent districts, and you get your tourism together pretty quickly.
@@ThinkingReality I’ve actually turned off cultural victories because I like playing with Corpos and they just make Culture WAY too easy. I wish they’d dial back or remove the tourism buff they give. The extra yields from the Industries/Corpos and the extra bonuses from them and their products is fun, but the massive boosts in tourism just make the culture game too easy.
That German swarm was quite terrifying. They wasted no time on trying to be the most dominate civ in the game. Unfortunate for them that their neighbor was Potato.
Funny first game with Tokugawa here: I created a standard Pangaea map and I spawned alone on my own little archipelago and had to deal with a bunch of barbarians for over 50 turns. Then ignored whatever was happening on the mainland and friending all the AI while I traded internally. I intend to do some light raiding and maybe a few cities later. The true Japanese experience!
With the exception of specific challenge runs it's not often we see a rough start from Potato, so this should be interesting to watch and see how it gets flipped around to a victory.
I finished a game with Tokugawa. I was behind initially, but I had a good amount of space and a lot of places to put harbors and commercial hubs. By around the late medeval era I was starting to creep ahead, and then like 30 turns later I was leauges ahead of the ai. It felt great. I was settling new cities and getting them to be quite powerful really quickly by just sending a trade route to the capitol.
By far one of the most entertaining starts I have seen you do. I’m such a noob in the game but really enjoy your commentary and as a noob, I tend to really enjoy the first 100 turns and then just get lost into a mess. I’ve learn much watching your vids!
Best. Episode. Ever. I gave Potato no chance with the 3 horseman and catapult from Tana, and to turn it around so effectively? Bravo. And I also loved the fact you were so angry you said ‘ no peace…never…’ - I say that a LOT!!!
Nice to see Potato have and try and deal with what about 80 percent of my games turn into: poor opening tiles and a super-close, super-aggressive neighbor.
That feeling when.... the ai has been battering you, but you took defensive positions, lost very few units and won the battle. Now your troops are battle hardened and ready to go!
In my Japan game I have a giga capital with every district that gives domestic yields (except the harbor). I put Magnus in for the plus 2 food and am getting 9 food, 6 production, 10 science, 10 culture, 20 gold, and a ridiculous amount of faith (chinguetti) from EACH domestic route. I have almost 30 trade routes. Stonks 📈
Chinguetti is ridiculous in the right situation. I just finished a Portugal game where I sent a crack team of missionaries halfway around the world to convert Chinguetti and my faith went completely vertical once they succeeded. Got up to like 600 faith per turn off of just two Holy Sites, which the Voidsingers in turn converted into absurd yields across the board. Less of a ramp and more of a catapult.
Something I noted was that Tokugawa’s ability changes to +4 amenities in all cities within 6 tiles in the base game. Which seemed even more broken in a personal playthrough.
I really did enjoy the fact that you said fuck no the Germany after he done trying to grief you. I got the same kind of game a few days ago against Greece and I just end up rush their Capital with Nubian Archers lol.
@@martinhendry2683 I actually wasn't having Pitati Archers yet when he decided to attack me. Just finish my second city with a Holy site and having 1 slinger and a warrior. I kinda panick when he zerg me with his 5 starting warrior so I spam like 3 slingers and immediately research for Archers to flip the table lol
Man, although those early wars do mess up your early game, it is so much fun to see you micromanage a bunch of low level early tech units to barely hold on. Also, I guess this is the AI telling you not to try to play a “Great Generals DLC” character peacefully.
I like the idea of using low sea level to get more land in the game. I don't really interact too much with the water in most games, and that's a neat trick to maybe fill out the map more that I'd never thought of.
I like Legendary start, since it allows Natural Wonders, but sometimes it gives you a start like this that's not Legendary, and you know the AI (with Deity boosts on top!) will get proper Legendary starts! So kudos for not rerolling a highly disadvantageous start I think Germany razed Zanzibar because it was off fresh water, and making a new city on the river would be a much better city
I think the AI will raze the city state if it's losing loyalty to prevent gifting it to the human player once it becomes a free city. Which raises the question why it attacked it in the first place when it knew it was not going to be able to keep it.
Did a continent run on marathon and my neighbors kept trying to forward settle me. I soon had my own continent. I won a culture victory while my exo-planet expedition was working it's way to a 150 light years. Alexander and Caeser were on the other continent and apparently spent most of the game smacking each other around. The bonuses that I was wracking up were just insane.
just played my first tonku game as well, and got a surprise war declared on me pretty quickly. its amazing that the ai can walk its missionaries and apostles all over YOUR land, but as soon as you step on theirs its a problem. but cleared that war and japan just takes off. i've got like seven out of 15 cities that cannot lose loyalty lol. that alone is pretty nuts, then you can slam the military governor in another cluster and be basically loyalty proof.
Really enjoyed this and I'm gonna keep an eye out for the continuation. Quick question: At this point in the playthrough what was your planned victory condition? After the Germany attack that is, what stuck out in your mind as the most likely if possible win condition? eg: Science, Domination, Cultural etc.
So many relatable sentiments in this video. I too hate having to fend off an early war, ruining my tempo in the process. The sentiment of "no, you started this war, I'm not letting you off the hook" is also very relatable. I will push any war the AI declares on me as far as I can back against them in retaliation; even if I can't conquer them, I can at least seek a more favourable peace deal as compensation for the tempo loss.
Personally I think a Classical Era Dark Age would be preferable to a Classical Era Normal Age, because this makes it possible to get a Medieval Era Heroic Age. So if the era counter is closing in and I'm still headed for a Dark age, I usually actively avoid getting more Era Score. Though what I'd personally consider the ideal Era progression would be Golden Classical into Dark Medieval into Heroic Renaissance, because combining Monumentality with Hic Sunt Dracones is just plain broken for a huge expansion wave, especially if prepped with a Magnus with Provisions and an Acenstral Hall. You could easily pop out 10-15 new cities each with a starting pop of 4 and a builder.
I've just started a game with Tokugawa and I think they do have a bit of a slow start if you're going Owls of Minerva. In my game it's turn 115-ish on Deity and I've just hit a Medieval golden age which is going to be Free Enquiry, considering my capital has 14 adjacency split between the Harbour and Commercial District.
Just finished my first game with him. The internal trade routes are ridiculous. I went Owls of Minerva but I really want to try another game with Vampires and have those Vampire castles feed the capitol into a super city that much faster and let me put more districts that much sooner.
Omw to a sub 250 turns tourism victory on almost identical setup (plus heroes and barbarians modes, thus a bit more facilitated). I expected the domestic trade routes trait to be more impactful and long lasting, but I noticed instead that in the mid to late game the international/city state routes become equally or even more viable anyways.
I think you should’ve went for archers earlier. They would’ve been useful for defending against German aggression and Barbarian galleys. The galley you bought at 20:02 could’ve been spent on an archer instead and got you more utility since the Germans were a bigger threat. The galley’s only use would’ve been to explore the coast quicker and find other civilizations but with isolationism being this version of japan’s strength exploration wouldn’t have mattered. When I see a threat as big as Germany taking out surrounding cities i immediately change game plans. Especially if my military strength was as low as yours. Also, trading all your horses and iron to Germany when they already had enough resources probably wasn’t wise lol but nonetheless you always prevail potato!!
The one issue with Tokugawa is the pressure to both have tall cities with 4+ districts ASAP to get his abilities going, but also wide to get as many trade routes as possible. Tokugawa seems to also have a coast bias so growth can be tricky. Still strong but constantly wants to do so many different things.
My first Tokugawa game I had to restart almost instantly. It was impossible to even build one second city that would remain loyal. I spawned on a slight peninsula on the coast with no fresh water and poor yield tiles. Then I had two city states to my south, Germany to my east and Khemer to the north-east and I met all of that before turn 10. I just turned on the settler lens to see if there was even another place to settle and everything was so close to me that there wasn't. Although I sent both civs a delegation Germany denounced me anyway so on Deity, yeah, that's GG right there.
@@plasma-based724 Yeah, within 6 tiles. The coverage of the city states and other civs left me unable to found a city without going south of the city states, more than 6 tiles. I guess technically those would have been loyal because a city state won't flip them but it was tundra down there anyway. Either way, my capital seemed indefensible from the war that was inevitably coming. Building an empire out of the tundra I guess isn't impossible, but without my original capital and on deity, it feels like the challengest of challenge modes.
I hope you get a chance to build a good Great Zimbabwe for extra trade stonkery. I think Tokyo potentially can, and I think I saw some other cattle to the northwest.
Am I evil for enjoying watching Potato struggle in a game for a change? 😆These are how my games usually look but I then give up! Would be great to see more videos of Potato struggling like I usually do!
I'll try this strat next. I got mad faith and culture yielda because I lucked out with the first game with Tokugawa but Suleiman won with a science victory.
I installed some cool gameplay mods and when i started a game to try them out, both my neighbouring countries (egypt and Netherlands) declared war on me before turn 40 with me having the bare minimum of troops. Little did they realise, i was randomly given simon bolivare. Now their cities are mine.
i often go autocraty with naval civ, so i can plug in the galey production in order to have a few galey out really fast and then i can plug in the card that up the harbor production by 30prct. that's like my favorite opening with naval civ. and also it give me production to wonder and i can use that in order to build colossus. always good to have one aditionnal commercial road but i mostly do the colosus for era score in order to get my golden age.
and the boost toward wonder will be good a bit later in the game if you plane on building kilua (don't know the exact name of it, well the one that give you 15prct boost when you're suzerain of a city states) wich you want to do bcs you have eyes of minerva, and it also speed up mausoleum wich you also want to do bcs it's broken with naval civ.
Its soo satisfiyng to enter a super early war with aparently nothing to fight against, but somehow turning the table making the AI begging for peace, go and burn germany to ashes for the GIGA-CULTURAL-TRADE-EMPIRE, lets gooo potatoooo.
I did this on continents on deity and the game gave me my own large island. I ended up with 7 cities on it with nan madol and a few on the nearby shore of a full continent. I basically just built commercial hubs, harbors, campuses, and IZs. Won science at 260 with 1500 sci and gold per turn, and 800 culture per turn. No wars in that game. I went magnus and then pingala, with minerva. Vertical integration gave my capitol 250 production.
Always love a good “you wanted this” counter attack against aggressive AI, it feels so amazing when they start begging for peace after surprise attacking you.
ugh this bothers me so much. 1. they declare war 2. i fight back 3. i take a city 4 . suddenly im the bad guy and everyone hates me HE STARTED IT
@@jungshin87 And then if you don't fight back and he takes your cities, he has no repercussions at all...
@@mason3111yeah they need to fix that. Civ 7 should have a upgraded AI
@@jungshin87 Just like real life.
Recently pulled exactly this as scotland. Thing that infuriated me was that every single AI started calling me a warmonger after taking one city, led to multiple spaceport sabotages.
The commercial hub/harbor with the gilded vault with tons of trade routes and 5+ adjacency campuses is actually cracked in the Tokugawa game I just finished I couldn’t believe I was overtaking the ai so quickly. Probably the most fun I’ve had with a leader in a while! Literally just pump everything into the capital and it almost anchors all of your other cities
It really is pretty crazy. I'm just about done. Turn 233, 28 population Tokyo, the internal trade routes to it are up to 10 science and culture, and I'm about to get culture victory.
I forgot about the double trade routes. I am so used to just going Voidsingers by default, and Owls didn't seem useful because it rewards trading with the City States over trading with yourself. But getting so many extra trade routes is definitely worth it. Even if it means giving up all my lovely Faith bonuses.
@@Skyblade12 yeah getting extra trade routes is really crazy when every trade route gives you 4+ science and culture (and tons of gold). After a while I just stopped bothering with city-states - it's nice to get the envoys, but trading with myself is just too good. Plus, because your districts give you tourism, you don't actually have to do much of anything to win a culture victory - just built chunky cities with loads of adjacent districts, and you get your tourism together pretty quickly.
@@ThinkingReality I’ve actually turned off cultural victories because I like playing with Corpos and they just make Culture WAY too easy. I wish they’d dial back or remove the tourism buff they give. The extra yields from the Industries/Corpos and the extra bonuses from them and their products is fun, but the massive boosts in tourism just make the culture game too easy.
@@moreon340 Ten districts in one city???
That German swarm was quite terrifying. They wasted no time on trying to be the most dominate civ in the game. Unfortunate for them that their neighbor was Potato.
would be interesting if the other neighbor was Gilgamesh.
It would be even worse if their neighbor was tomato
The way potato ignores the obvious incoming attack but then turns it around and wins really shows his adaptability!
Funny first game with Tokugawa here: I created a standard Pangaea map and I spawned alone on my own little archipelago and had to deal with a bunch of barbarians for over 50 turns. Then ignored whatever was happening on the mainland and friending all the AI while I traded internally. I intend to do some light raiding and maybe a few cities later. The true Japanese experience!
until you got raided by America with their Ironclad that is XD
With the exception of specific challenge runs it's not often we see a rough start from Potato, so this should be interesting to watch and see how it gets flipped around to a victory.
Oddly enough, the last one I can recall was also Japan. Possibly two of them, actually.
What's more hilarious is that he set his game to a Legendary start position at 0:13 and managed to get that start location... 🤣
There's something to be said for angry potato games. They don't happen very often. And Fredrick deserves what's coming.
It's always good to see you turn a rough start around. Those are the best starts to watch.
I had the exact same thing happen with Poland in my Tokugawa Ieyasu game. But sometimes the cheapest settlers to build are Military units.
"Sometimes the cheapest settlers to build are military units." - I can hear that in Sean Bean's voice, with an attribution to Sun Tzu
@@dreadful-twerp precisely
i'm very excited to see the Owls shenanigans, it's going to be insane i imagine
Hey, aren't you the Horse from Horsin' Aroun?
seein boes in the comments is poggy woggy
My boe watching the owls strategy to verify if its truly broken, really exited for the another two new civs you're going to play btw
@@DavidJCO don't look a gift horse in the mouth
unless?
@@DavidJCO is this a crossover episode?
its amazing how quick you can switch on from a declaration of war and turn nothing into a defensive powerhouse
As someone who actually lives in Ulm, i wanna thank you for your efforts of trying to raze the city
I finished a game with Tokugawa. I was behind initially, but I had a good amount of space and a lot of places to put harbors and commercial hubs. By around the late medeval era I was starting to creep ahead, and then like 30 turns later I was leauges ahead of the ai. It felt great. I was settling new cities and getting them to be quite powerful really quickly by just sending a trade route to the capitol.
God gold income also helps so you can buy the buildings in them too if needed.
The slow civ penetrates the shield 😂
By far one of the most entertaining starts I have seen you do. I’m such a noob in the game but really enjoy your commentary and as a noob, I tend to really enjoy the first 100 turns and then just get lost into a mess. I’ve learn much watching your vids!
Best. Episode. Ever. I gave Potato no chance with the 3 horseman and catapult from Tana, and to turn it around so effectively? Bravo. And I also loved the fact you were so angry you said ‘ no peace…never…’ - I say that a LOT!!!
“It’s such a bad city it offends me.”
Yeah, I’ve said the same exact thing when razing poorly planned AI cities. 😂
One hell of a recovery from that crazy AI start
Nice to see Potato have and try and deal with what about 80 percent of my games turn into: poor opening tiles and a super-close, super-aggressive neighbor.
That feeling when.... the ai has been battering you, but you took defensive positions, lost very few units and won the battle. Now your troops are battle hardened and ready to go!
In my Japan game I have a giga capital with every district that gives domestic yields (except the harbor). I put Magnus in for the plus 2 food and am getting 9 food, 6 production, 10 science, 10 culture, 20 gold, and a ridiculous amount of faith (chinguetti) from EACH domestic route. I have almost 30 trade routes.
Stonks 📈
Chinguetti is ridiculous in the right situation. I just finished a Portugal game where I sent a crack team of missionaries halfway around the world to convert Chinguetti and my faith went completely vertical once they succeeded. Got up to like 600 faith per turn off of just two Holy Sites, which the Voidsingers in turn converted into absurd yields across the board. Less of a ramp and more of a catapult.
This was an edge of your seat type of opener, and I'm all for it. Great quality content!!
so efficiant and so fun to watch! you are a beast.
Come for the early harbours, stay for the masterclass in defensive warfare.
Something I noted was that Tokugawa’s ability changes to +4 amenities in all cities within 6 tiles in the base game. Which seemed even more broken in a personal playthrough.
Been looking forward to this since seeing Tokugawa's ability. Can't wait to see how it goes.
Absolutely fantastic episode, I love the frantic (yet effective) scrambling to muster arms against the Germans!
This is the most enjoyable episode of Civ from anyone I have watched in a long time, keep er lit Potato!
I really did enjoy the fact that you said fuck no the Germany after he done trying to grief you. I got the same kind of game a few days ago against Greece and I just end up rush their Capital with Nubian Archers lol.
Oof. You know the AI is still stupid because a human player attacking Nubia when they had Pitati Archers is not a thing that any sane person would do.
@@martinhendry2683 I actually wasn't having Pitati Archers yet when he decided to attack me. Just finish my second city with a Holy site and having 1 slinger and a warrior. I kinda panick when he zerg me with his 5 starting warrior so I spam like 3 slingers and immediately research for Archers to flip the table lol
Man, although those early wars do mess up your early game, it is so much fun to see you micromanage a bunch of low level early tech units to barely hold on. Also, I guess this is the AI telling you not to try to play a “Great Generals DLC” character peacefully.
That was quite a rough start, but at least you are likely to survive and endure
Exciting war! It's magical to watch you fight under duress, I totally would have died.
I like the idea of using low sea level to get more land in the game. I don't really interact too much with the water in most games, and that's a neat trick to maybe fill out the map more that I'd never thought of.
One advantage of starting out next to the #1 poppin'-off empire: If you manage to defeat them, then everyone else is a chump.
didn't watch for a while, now I am hooked again
Epic Dune reference slid into commentary seamlessly - Respect!
Dune references are the best references. Awesome vid as always :)
I loved how you managed to pivot your game from your main goal to defending against a really agressive enemy with a great technological advantage. 💙💙💙
I love seeing Potato react to the aggressive Germany the same way that I always do!
The sheer catharsis when you the turn the tides on the war of an aggressive neighbor is very good.
terrific save man. you're still the master of countering early game ahole ai.
I like Legendary start, since it allows Natural Wonders, but sometimes it gives you a start like this that's not Legendary, and you know the AI (with Deity boosts on top!) will get proper Legendary starts!
So kudos for not rerolling a highly disadvantageous start
I think Germany razed Zanzibar because it was off fresh water, and making a new city on the river would be a much better city
I think the AI will raze the city state if it's losing loyalty to prevent gifting it to the human player once it becomes a free city. Which raises the question why it attacked it in the first place when it knew it was not going to be able to keep it.
These videos are much more entertaining when things don't go exactly to plan.
That recovery was mad impressive
came for the civ content. subbed for the "singles in your area" joke. lmao ur the man potato
Thank goodness I got home to see this
Germany: invades
Japan: so you have chosen...Nippon steel
Summons hordes of samurai and spearmen
wild how he mobilized an army out of thin air and launched a full scale counter attack in 30 turns
that's quite a tense start, this what a usual start looks like for when playing Gitarja
It's always a great feeling to be able to tell a civ that declared war on you to get bent when they try to peace out.
Surprised to see potato get a rough start, lets see where this goes!
I could watch potato manage and flip defensive wars for hours on end
The next patch needs to rename "Tokyo" to "Edo" when building. Come on, Firaxis
That Dune reference got me. 😂
I can't remember the last time I've enjoyed a leader as much as Tokugawa.
you make the transition from War back into expansion look so easy...
Did a continent run on marathon and my neighbors kept trying to forward settle me. I soon had my own continent. I won a culture victory while my exo-planet expedition was working it's way to a 150 light years. Alexander and Caeser were on the other continent and apparently spent most of the game smacking each other around. The bonuses that I was wracking up were just insane.
just played my first tonku game as well, and got a surprise war declared on me pretty quickly. its amazing that the ai can walk its missionaries and apostles all over YOUR land, but as soon as you step on theirs its a problem. but cleared that war and japan just takes off. i've got like seven out of 15 cities that cannot lose loyalty lol. that alone is pretty nuts, then you can slam the military governor in another cluster and be basically loyalty proof.
I’ve literally never seen an AI raze a city. So the fact Germany said “Fire go fwoosh” to Zanzibar was mind bottling.
Tokugawa might just be my favorite new civ. I am the type of player to just sim city my way to victory, so this is geared for me!
This defense was so satisfying to watch
I've been watching potato for over two years and have always heard 'Elsa' and not 'Owls of', which has been logical for me with the woman silhouette 😳
When the AI decides that you're going for a domination victory instead of an economical one.
32:25 I felt this in my soul every time the AI forward settles me lol
Really enjoyed this and I'm gonna keep an eye out for the continuation. Quick question: At this point in the playthrough what was your planned victory condition? After the Germany attack that is, what stuck out in your mind as the most likely if possible win condition? eg: Science, Domination, Cultural etc.
So many relatable sentiments in this video. I too hate having to fend off an early war, ruining my tempo in the process. The sentiment of "no, you started this war, I'm not letting you off the hook" is also very relatable. I will push any war the AI declares on me as far as I can back against them in retaliation; even if I can't conquer them, I can at least seek a more favourable peace deal as compensation for the tempo loss.
babe wakes up the potato man uploaded a new civ video
Potato be like this is a war you started but it is a war I will end
That opening start location looks like a sad face with a very large schnoz.
Can't wait to see the next episode on this one ! Finish off germany haha!
I see a good ol' Golden Gate Bridge city to the north of your capital with a one tile island.
Random Dune reference had me giggly.
Personally I think a Classical Era Dark Age would be preferable to a Classical Era Normal Age, because this makes it possible to get a Medieval Era Heroic Age. So if the era counter is closing in and I'm still headed for a Dark age, I usually actively avoid getting more Era Score. Though what I'd personally consider the ideal Era progression would be Golden Classical into Dark Medieval into Heroic Renaissance, because combining Monumentality with Hic Sunt Dracones is just plain broken for a huge expansion wave, especially if prepped with a Magnus with Provisions and an Acenstral Hall. You could easily pop out 10-15 new cities each with a starting pop of 4 and a builder.
I've just started a game with Tokugawa and I think they do have a bit of a slow start if you're going Owls of Minerva. In my game it's turn 115-ish on Deity and I've just hit a Medieval golden age which is going to be Free Enquiry, considering my capital has 14 adjacency split between the Harbour and Commercial District.
Just finished my first game with him. The internal trade routes are ridiculous.
I went Owls of Minerva but I really want to try another game with Vampires and have those Vampire castles feed the capitol into a super city that much faster and let me put more districts that much sooner.
Omw to a sub 250 turns tourism victory on almost identical setup (plus heroes and barbarians modes, thus a bit more facilitated). I expected the domestic trade routes trait to be more impactful and long lasting, but I noticed instead that in the mid to late game the international/city state routes become equally or even more viable anyways.
A dark age would be really strong for the special policy for domestic trade.
Good episode...
I think you should’ve went for archers earlier. They would’ve been useful for defending against German aggression and Barbarian galleys. The galley you bought at 20:02 could’ve been spent on an archer instead and got you more utility since the Germans were a bigger threat. The galley’s only use would’ve been to explore the coast quicker and find other civilizations but with isolationism being this version of japan’s strength exploration wouldn’t have mattered. When I see a threat as big as Germany taking out surrounding cities i immediately change game plans. Especially if my military strength was as low as yours. Also, trading all your horses and iron to Germany when they already had enough resources probably wasn’t wise lol but nonetheless you always prevail potato!!
You missed a perfectly good "sea- or see- horse joke.
The one issue with Tokugawa is the pressure to both have tall cities with 4+ districts ASAP to get his abilities going, but also wide to get as many trade routes as possible. Tokugawa seems to also have a coast bias so growth can be tricky. Still strong but constantly wants to do so many different things.
"nothing more satisfying than telling the AI to go f*** themselves after they destroyed my early game" 🤣
I absolutely agree! ✌
keep this game going please - it's a great example
Germany is always a nightmare when they’re neighbors 😂 but what a comeback.
My first Tokugawa game I had to restart almost instantly. It was impossible to even build one second city that would remain loyal.
I spawned on a slight peninsula on the coast with no fresh water and poor yield tiles. Then I had two city states to my south, Germany to my east and Khemer to the north-east and I met all of that before turn 10. I just turned on the settler lens to see if there was even another place to settle and everything was so close to me that there wasn't. Although I sent both civs a delegation Germany denounced me anyway so on Deity, yeah, that's GG right there.
I thought his leader ability gave full loyalty to cities within 6 tiles of your capital?
@@plasma-based724 Yeah, within 6 tiles. The coverage of the city states and other civs left me unable to found a city without going south of the city states, more than 6 tiles. I guess technically those would have been loyal because a city state won't flip them but it was tundra down there anyway. Either way, my capital seemed indefensible from the war that was inevitably coming. Building an empire out of the tundra I guess isn't impossible, but without my original capital and on deity, it feels like the challengest of challenge modes.
I hope you get a chance to build a good Great Zimbabwe for extra trade stonkery. I think Tokyo potentially can, and I think I saw some other cattle to the northwest.
Wow Potato. Did you lose any pieces in that phenomenal chess game? I know who not to mess with if I ever come across them in a multiplayer game.
Am I evil for enjoying watching Potato struggle in a game for a change? 😆These are how my games usually look but I then give up! Would be great to see more videos of Potato struggling like I usually do!
I'll try this strat next. I got mad faith and culture yielda because I lucked out with the first game with Tokugawa but Suleiman won with a science victory.
Notes Germany's potentially game-ending threat, proceeds to sell horses to Germany...
I installed some cool gameplay mods and when i started a game to try them out, both my neighbouring countries (egypt and Netherlands) declared war on me before turn 40 with me having the bare minimum of troops.
Little did they realise, i was randomly given simon bolivare.
Now their cities are mine.
The slow potato penetrates the shield
i often go autocraty with naval civ, so i can plug in the galey production in order to have a few galey out really fast and then i can plug in the card that up the harbor production by 30prct. that's like my favorite opening with naval civ.
and also it give me production to wonder and i can use that in order to build colossus. always good to have one aditionnal commercial road but i mostly do the colosus for era score in order to get my golden age.
and the boost toward wonder will be good a bit later in the game if you plane on building kilua (don't know the exact name of it, well the one that give you 15prct boost when you're suzerain of a city states) wich you want to do bcs you have eyes of minerva, and it also speed up mausoleum wich you also want to do bcs it's broken with naval civ.
Its soo satisfiyng to enter a super early war with aparently nothing to fight against, but somehow turning the table making the AI begging for peace, go and burn germany to ashes for the GIGA-CULTURAL-TRADE-EMPIRE, lets gooo potatoooo.
Germany was in my game as Tokugawa as well, and they steamrolled for a while, smashing other civs, the AI update is brutal
Tokugawa keeps calling me A-A-ron
New ai is kinda rough. had a game where i spawned next to korea and I was confused when they actually had an army to attack me
I did this on continents on deity and the game gave me my own large island. I ended up with 7 cities on it with nan madol and a few on the nearby shore of a full continent. I basically just built commercial hubs, harbors, campuses, and IZs. Won science at 260 with 1500 sci and gold per turn, and 800 culture per turn. No wars in that game. I went magnus and then pingala, with minerva. Vertical integration gave my capitol 250 production.
Also, don't know if you noticed, but Fukuoka has more or less been under a permanent drought.
They still haven't fixed that, it seems.
Whenever I try to play a passive game. Teddy Roosevelt slaps me hard everytime