MOSFET Gate Drive Resistor Selection - Part 1: Turn On

Sdílet
Vložit
  • čas přidán 24. 06. 2024
  • In this video, we will describe how to quickly select a "near optimum" value of your Gate Drive resistor in a MOSET driven switch mode power supply during turn on.
    The methodology described here should give you a good comprise between fast switching speed, low EMI and low time to market without difficult measurements.
    For detailed mathematical analysis and accurate equations, we highly recommend the excellent paper by By Mr. Laszlo Balogh, "Fundamentals of MOSFET and IGBT Gate Driver Circuits" available from TI: www.ti.com/lit/ml/slua618a/sl...
  • Věda a technologie

Komentáře • 57

  • @dwagner6
    @dwagner6 Před 10 měsíci +7

    CZcams's algorithm recommended your videos (esp. the Miller Plateau video) right when I was working on a related problem on a design. Very serendipitous...and your videos are great!

  • @CircuitShepherd
    @CircuitShepherd Před 10 měsíci +25

    The real fun starts when switching inductive loads 😉

    • @p_mouse8676
      @p_mouse8676 Před 10 měsíci +8

      That's actually where most issues are in practice.

    • @DeltaSigma16
      @DeltaSigma16 Před 7 měsíci +1

      😂😂

    • @gaynzz6841
      @gaynzz6841 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Didn't you pay attention? The circuit is a flyback converter (4:20) which is really the most inductive as you can get.

    • @CircuitShepherd
      @CircuitShepherd Před 3 měsíci

      @@gaynzz6841 Yes, I was a bit unclear. Referred more to a simple step down. Normally you will never see a Miller plateau in such cases.

  • @alexandrosantos4099
    @alexandrosantos4099 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Great videos Professor!!!
    Greetings from Mexico

  • @Mahesh-uy8jw
    @Mahesh-uy8jw Před 10 měsíci +1

    Thank you, Learned something new today.

  • @JeromeDemers
    @JeromeDemers Před 10 měsíci +3

    awesome video!, I wish you could of talk about adding diode in parallel to resistor and see it's effect on the scope. You can also combination of diode and resistor to control the turn-on and turn-off speed.

  • @md.abubakarsiddique6390
    @md.abubakarsiddique6390 Před 10 měsíci

    Your teaching skill is awesome. Thank you professor. Love you to see from Bangladesh 🇧🇩.

  • @serhatdalga7038
    @serhatdalga7038 Před měsícem +1

    Thank you ,
    It is really very useful.

  • @baghdadiabdellatif1581
    @baghdadiabdellatif1581 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Great work 👌

  • @paulpaulzadeh6172
    @paulpaulzadeh6172 Před 10 měsíci +4

    They put also ferrite bead too. One small ring ferrite bead in wire .

  • @twhite3844
    @twhite3844 Před 9 měsíci

    Very clear and helpful.

  • @Appregator
    @Appregator Před 6 měsíci

    Thanks - great explanation.

  • @ArjunaWeerasinghe
    @ArjunaWeerasinghe Před 10 měsíci +1

    Nice talk. Thanks

  • @nickharrison3748
    @nickharrison3748 Před 27 dny

    Very nicely explained and demonstrated.

  • @LordPhobos6502
    @LordPhobos6502 Před 5 měsíci +2

    So... in your example, you end up with a 5ohm resistor...
    How would you cslculate what power rating that resistor needs to be?

  • @AvishekDasPostdoc
    @AvishekDasPostdoc Před 9 měsíci

    Fantastic explaination

  • @Brumby0
    @Brumby0 Před 9 měsíci

    Excellent, thanks.

  • @vidtechnology7342
    @vidtechnology7342 Před 3 měsíci

    Nice explanation , Thanks

  • @RexxSchneider
    @RexxSchneider Před 10 měsíci +1

    I must admit I was hoping for a bit more than "try different resistor values, and see what looks best on a scope". But that's fair enough advice in most cases, and you did supply the link to a more detailed analysis.

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis Před 10 měsíci

      He links to the paper that describes how to calculate the gate drive resistance provided you can measure the parasitics.

    • @RexxSchneider
      @RexxSchneider Před 10 měsíci

      @@ferrumignis Yes, indeed, as I remarked. Most of the time, of course, you'll have an estimate of the maximum parasitic inductance when you know the length and size of the leads/tracks between the driver and the mosfet. That's sufficient to determine the minimum value of resistor needed to damp the LCR circuit.

  • @SMV1972
    @SMV1972 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Очень понравилось видео! Нужный полезный практический урок. Спасибо Вам!!

  • @autotuneengineering
    @autotuneengineering Před 8 měsíci

    Thank you!

  • @user-yn9cc6bw8b
    @user-yn9cc6bw8b Před 10 měsíci +1

    Great experiment. And what will be if you use 0 ohm resistor with the ferrite bead on the gate pin of the MOSFET?

    • @EhsanHabib
      @EhsanHabib Před 5 měsíci

      Did you try it ???? Let me know if you have done it

  • @juniorthetuner5113
    @juniorthetuner5113 Před 7 měsíci

    Wow thanks so this should be done under load...if I'm trying to rive a dc traction motor should I do it under load or off the ground freewheeling with the scope

  • @sudheerkumar5966
    @sudheerkumar5966 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Very good

  • @ibrahimcafe9586
    @ibrahimcafe9586 Před 6 měsíci

    Thank you very much sir

  • @glasslinger
    @glasslinger Před 10 měsíci +2

    Hey, I thought I was the only one to "design by tweak" I tried the "math" way and the values always turned out wrong so ended up tweaking the values anyway!

  • @panditji8823
    @panditji8823 Před 8 měsíci

    Sir, We have to keep underdamped position to the waveform and need to keep less than 10 ohm resistor.

  • @calypso5925
    @calypso5925 Před 10 měsíci

    Please clarify where is the oscillo probe connected. To the mosfet gate?

  • @retokeller1400
    @retokeller1400 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Does the oscilloscope's probe capacitance (e.g. 1pF) not change the gate signal too much? Or is the gate capacitance order of magnitude bigger than the 1pF of the probe?

    • @volodymyrzakolodyazhny7740
      @volodymyrzakolodyazhny7740 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Gate capacitance is hundred or hundreds picofarad at least typically and oscilloscope probe is 12-25 picofarad (fine one) so it doesn't change much. If you work with more powerfull transistors it is neglisible. It is only consern at rare cases.

    • @RexxSchneider
      @RexxSchneider Před 10 měsíci +2

      As real examples, a power mosfet like the IRL530 has a typical input capacitance around 1nF and the IRFZ44 around 2nF, while for the small-signal 2N7000, it's just 60pF max.

    • @retokeller1400
      @retokeller1400 Před 10 měsíci

      @@volodymyrzakolodyazhny7740 Thanks

    • @retokeller1400
      @retokeller1400 Před 10 měsíci

      @@RexxSchneider Thank you

    • @lohikarhu734
      @lohikarhu734 Před 9 měsíci +1

      as a 10:1 passive probe is typically around 11 pF, it won't load the drive path very much, relative to the gate capacitance of a big mosfet, but really loads a smaller device, where an active probe becomes indispensable!
      Also, a typical passive probe, if you use a "ground lead" often adds a resonance at 100-125 MHz.
      probing is always raising its head as a tricky factor in switching analysis...

  • @qaisarawan93
    @qaisarawan93 Před 3 dny

    So we need to look at the gate to soyrce vootage and make a oerfect shape like you shown by choosing different gate resistor

  • @inductivethinking
    @inductivethinking Před 10 měsíci +1

    But what if you're just switching on/off a load (no fast switching requirements) ?
    Wouldn't a high resistor value be preferable, in order to get lower emi emissions?

    • @volodymyrzakolodyazhny7740
      @volodymyrzakolodyazhny7740 Před 10 měsíci

      Then a higher then optimum will be prefered I guess. Here another problem may arise: your load may be placed at some relatively large distance and you'll have a high transients with ringing on a wire inductance. Then yes - it is more reasonable to to make it as slow as possible.

    • @RexxSchneider
      @RexxSchneider Před 10 měsíci +1

      The problem then becomes the amount of time the mosfet spends in its linear region. If you are sinking a high current with a high voltage supply, you will need to make sure that the power dissipated during the switching is within limits for the device and its heatsink.

  • @zeljkoadzic1692
    @zeljkoadzic1692 Před měsícem

    Hi. Does this apply to inductive loads as well as to the logic level signal? is there any formula for gate resistance ?

  • @patrickvanasbroeck303
    @patrickvanasbroeck303 Před 6 měsíci

    One question remains: how can a small 100ohm resistor make such a difference in connection with the Mohm gate resistance of the mosfet?

  • @Rostam67
    @Rostam67 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thanks a lot for the great video. Is it possible to use a whiteboard instead please? I understand that this is a weird request. But the marker on paper makes a sound that is hard for some people (not everyone) to tolerate. I am sorry for this strange comment. Thank you again. you rchannel is amazing.

  • @wisnueepis3593
    @wisnueepis3593 Před 5 měsíci

    is the ringing coming from the parasitic inductance?

  • @zviper
    @zviper Před 5 měsíci

    Is there a way without using a o scope?

  • @nickharrison3748
    @nickharrison3748 Před 27 dny

    dosent the calculation affect fall time

  • @WrittenByMasooma
    @WrittenByMasooma Před 25 dny

    My gate driver circuit burnt. What could be the reason?