Solomonster Reacts To Ember Moon Shooting On Her Final Days In WWE
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 1. 05. 2022
- Solomonster reacts to Athena's interview this week (the former Ember Moon) with Chris Van Vliet. It includes some VERY revealing details about her frustrating final few months in WWE and exposing WWE's "Women's Revolution" for the farce that it's become with some of the changes made to the division in NXT.
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Notice how a lot of people said stuff went downhill without Hunter. Hunter had a great formula with NXT. But gotta count on Vince to fix something that wasn't broken
Technically it was broken because they kept losing to aew.
That's what people be saying Triple H craze something great Vince McMahon destroys it and made it worse and now we're stuck with 2.0 what I called the Mandy Rose show she's the forefront of the show anyway but the biggest mistake was that they fought against aew and they lost terribly
@@bdhuyeb4028 they should stay on the WWE Network and look what happened they fought aew and they got destroyed really badly
@@bdhuyeb4028 And it would still be losing...
And break what is working.
Athena is one of us. She sat there watching Austin and HHH and rock and cena and loved wwe. She wanted to be a lifer and they broke her heart. If you can look at her all defeated like that and call her bitter or entitled, youâre simply a sociopath
people who want to call her "bitter" and "entitled" already have an agenda and need to denigrate her to make themselves feel better. i really wouldn't take their opinions seriously
Exactly if WWE used her right she could told a fairytale story how she used to watch WWE as kid and how it impacted her life and how she learn at the pc and become a great star....Sadly that fantasy in reality Vince had no intrested in her.
@@eLite-Tiss91 Vince doesn't share that same vision. If he didn't create you like a lump of clay, to push you to the heavens/clouds, you won't go far. If you came from somewhere else, and came to NXT. Vince hardly watches your product/brand; the Writers didn't know the background for any of the NXT characters.
Wwe sucks
@@skippythealien9627 Only WWE fanboys call critics of it that. According to them not blindly putting up with dumb gimmicks, bad booking, awful matches, overly scripted promos and not buying everything Vince says is supposedly ungrateful.
I don't blame her. Athena is better off. WWE not only doesn't have lots of imagination and new ideas these days, but they treat talent like Athena like spare parts.
That interview was disheartening. I remember when she debuted, she was so good. Already lost faith in WWE but damn, they just keep digging deeper.
wwe sucks. I gotta hand it off to Solomonster for watching this bullshit
The irony is a lot of the people who criticise a lot of the wrestlers for being critical of WWE are likely being critical about WWE themselves. Itâs like those fans who bow to Vince McMahon whenever he comes out; theyâll bow to Vince and then later going online saying how terrible the show was.
The Women's Revolution died quickly when Bruce came back to the company in late 2018, John just buried it when he came back.
....there have been main events since then lol
2 dinosaur minded dudes who have antiquated views on women in the rasslin' business. Trips actually tried to make it better for the Ladies.
@@MrBigdude912 Well they have to throw the women a bone once in a while to keep them some what happy, but all and all, since Bruce came back, the women's division (when it comes to the booking and the storylines, just like some of the men's division) has sucked.
@@cpthetrucker9067 Right. There is nothing wrong with a female wrestler looking sexy, but trying to force them to look sexy, that is way too much,
Ehh wouldn't say that. They have still main evented shows. They been given main stream appearances. Becky and Bianca recently worked with DAZN to promote Taylor VS Serrano. Also Ember says she appeals to children yet before all this. She was wearing fishnets. Still wearing booty shorts. Even after getting released. She can still be seen wearing the same shit. Also there's nothing wrong with em telling them to look more appealing. Your in the wrestling business that has a heavy male audience.
The fact that WWE wants more Mandy Rose is so problematic, not just for the bad optics of wanting all their women to be "sexy", but more importantly, it just shows that they don't understand anything about what wrestling fans want. I like Mandy, but Ember was 100% right, not everyone is Mandy. I don't want to watch an army of Mandy Rose clones having bad matches for the next decade. We want variety in characters, variety in styles, variety in motivations. Ember was the epitome of that variety in the womens division. She had a unique look, she was very talented in the ring, she had a great entrance. Making her "sexier" wouldn't have added anything meaningful to her presentation.
which makes it worse, cause E-drones typically deflect any criticism of the product's writing by saying "its for kids ". Cause more booba is absolutely kid-appropriate, right?
All that and she lack the most important thing...charisma and mic skills!
Ember is waaaay better than Becky Lynch in the ring but Becky has charisma and mic skills
Calm down feminist
Honestly I miss the times when the women were casted out of the Playboy. Lets be honest womens wrestling is boring. I can't imagine that people actually watch solely for the in-ring aspect. You might not like it but WWE is Entertainment first not like AEW where it is wrestling first. In Entertainment Sex sells. There is a reason Sable drew so much. If I watch TV at night and see a 20 minute Baker vs Thunder Rosa match on one channel or flip the channel and see Naomi and Scarlett in a pillow fight in bikinis, guess what most men would rather watch. I think its great you can have women's wrestling at AEW and sexy women at WWE. You can watch according to your preference
listened to the entire interview. real good. everyone should go listen to it. one issue with what Athena said was the newer nxt talent don't love wrestling. Kyle O'Reilly said something similar. they probably don't. but if they are willing to learn and improve, they will over time. probably a good 40% of the hall of fame didn't love wrestling starting out. they seen a way to make money, then came to appreciate it.
Exactly didnât love that she said she hates tag team wrestling either slight shot at Mandy Rose she comes off as big headed.
I have a feeling that the new philosophy of WWE is that they no longer want employees who love wrestling. They want people who love WWE
@@nocap4557 I didn't take that as a shot at Mandy. I think she should've just said they got told to dress like another woman on the roster and they don't all look the same.
There's a reason why they didn't want her in the main roster women's division: She's not a stacked blonde that makes Vince and Kevin's two inchers stand at attention.
Exactly. Also why Asuka's main roster run hasn't been good, she's Japanese.
TIL Bianca Sasha and Naomi are stacked blondes
@@stevenweech8888
Affirmative action
@@FingerBreakerWu Today I learned 3 of the 4 main roster womens' champions (all multiple time champions and 2 wm main eventers) are only there because of affirmative action.
"As soon as Hunter is gone" everything is wildly changed around and everyone from the 1.0 era gets screwed over.
Even if Vince dies, you will still have his inner circle to deal with. Dunn, Lauranitis, Prichard, and now Khan. Nothing will change unless every aspect of Vince McMahon's group is erased.
NXT 1.5 not 1.0 because 1.0 was the Game Show Era.
A common thing I'm noticing with all these shot interviews from released wrestlers especially ones from NXT. Basically once Triple H lost power, everything went Topsy turvy
WWE being chaotic backstage and one hand not knowing what the other is doing is nothing new. Nor are the broken promises. Weâve been hearing it for years.
The âdress sexyâ thing sounds gross (not that thereâs anything wrong with that, but it should be a CHOICE). But with Vince, Bruce, Johnny Ace, and Kevin Dunn in charge again, sadly not surprising.
It's nice of her not to blame Mandy Rose, but the second they put the title on Mandy, we all knew where this was headed. I said then that Mandy wasn't even top 20 of the active female talent in the company, so there was only one possible reason for her to be in that role. And they proceeded to prove me right, over and over, with the slow up-pans and bikini promos. I still believe this is what they wanted from Eva Marie, she simply couldn't work well enough to pull it off.
I watched the clip, and man, it hurt to watch. I felt bad for her.
Except for the "Mom diss", it seems that Ryback was on point in what he said...Not trying to give that clown any shine, but Vince is a lying demon....all he does is screw over talent..
Vince clearly never got help for the trauma he experienced in his youth. And unfortunately it bleeds into the inner workings and creative process.
unfortunately, you dont get to the top of your respective industry by being an honest man.
@@XombieLejon66 especially the wrestling business which is filled with carnies.
Calm down clown
Another reason why I don't watch the current wwe productđ
It's actually been a few years since the last time anybody's verbally mentioned the "women's revolution". Probably since the Evolution PPV and then after Ronda left, it was pretty much over.
the amount of people I've seen on social media calling Ember Moon bitter her run didn't go her way so she's taking it out on wwe
typical Twitter geeks
Personally I feel like Athena would do wonders in Impact Wrestling instead of aew because we're going to be honest we need to wait until Tony Khan hire someone to book the women's division correctly in my personal opinion....
I feel like she will be showing up in Impact
And they said CM punk was wrong for leaving the company
CM Punk was a poor politician. Wrestlers would dream to be in his status.
@@mramos1126 OH really said that every other superstar who got what Ember got without even given a chance but got cut off like Bray Wyatt, Toni Storm,Karrion kross, Bo Dallas, Curtis Axels and many other HOF sons and indies worldwide talent who got screwed over for not being this or that in the eyes of WWE and when she talk about sexual attention in NXT oh, that even bigger when have girls like Nikkita Lyons only being watch not because her talent but because of her thickness and Curve being shown off and they said bring the Attitude Era back, good luck with that if you think that will make it. CM punk had balls and even though he had wants and needs he didn't like what was going on show WWE forcefully fired him for not obeying their games
@@deondrecarter153 not everyone is meant for WWE. It's a sink or swim company.
@@mramos1126 but how CM punk a radical, a poor wrestling politician for not bowing down to people like Vince who rape him while being champion and being wrongly do for every chance of not being open and willing to listen to his ideas or any other wrestlers. Was Keith Lee built for the WWE ?
@@stevonwhite8933 the guy was obsessed with being a workhorse like Harley Race. CM Punk could have stopped at any moment but waited till aj lee recommended to see another doctor.
What did she expect though.... the minute they start changing your plans and that theyâre gonna make up for it... RUN!!!
Hunter has a wrestler's eye. That's why we had all this amazing talent in NXT. Samoa Joe, Finn Balor, Undisputed Era, The Four Horsewomen, Asuka, so on and so forth. He has a heart attack, then John Laurenitis (can't be fucked spelling that idiot's name right), comes in and sends the whole fucking company back to 2009. Idiots who can't wrestle like The Bella Twins, fucking Ryback, you get the picture. I really hope that AEW, Impact and New Japan really do take the fight to WWE because it's the only way that Vince will see that he is running an antique wrestling product, stuck in the early 90's.
WWE itâs not about wrestling or good storylines itâs about fulfilling the perverted fantasies of the higher ups. I feel bad for ember moon I hope the best for her.
Does it come as any surprise that this "dress sexy" edict comes from John Laurinaitis? The man who would browse lingerie catalogs for women wrestlers.
Bad News Vince. "I'm afraid I have some bad news"
I agree with everything you said and it's just shows how messed up WWE really is I seen the video she really had a lot of emotions just by thinking about it
I hope she goes on to bigger and better things. She has so much potential.
"Dress sexier" says John "let's get victoria's secret models to wrestle " Laryngitis and the rest of Vince's cronies. As if this was still the 90's. Like, if I want booba, i'll just do a quick internet search. When I watch wrestling, I wanna see wrestling.
So The "Women's Revoltion" Is Over
Divas Is Back.
Thanks to "PEOPLE POWER"!!
The talk about WWE higher-ups wanting their female roster to dress "more sexy" is so screwy on so many levels. Imagine overseeing a company where nearly all the young on-screen female talent already wear skimpy outfits and deciding that even that isn't revealing enough.
I really felt for Ember Moon when I watched her interview, and look it's no surprise Vince McMahon, John Laranitis, Nick Khan and Bruce Prichard when they touch something unique they F'ck it up... I do like the new talent in NXT 2.0 But I see why people don't like it, because look what they're doing... Underutilizing
I wouldnât say itâs going back to the divas era, when Becky and Bianca had a near five star match at this yearâs Wrestlemania.
Ember Moon was always my favourite womens wrestler in WWE. The moment I saw her, I stood up and said, "who's that?" I hope she finds success in AEW, she has such passion for wrestling.
I watched the full interview. I was emotional watching the interview. That woman is such an amazing talent and they had no idea what to do with her and it's a shame
Anyone who says these wrestlers are bitter about being fired are sad pathetic marks.
Kind of funny how you keep hearing similar stories for YEARS from so many different kinds of talents. They arenât connected yet they all have said pretty much the same types of things. Yet for some, itâs always their fault.
Thereâs only one consistent in all of this, Vince being in charge. Yet it seems like for some fans, it can never be Vinceâs fault. It cannot be that creatively, heâs not good.
Itâs like a cult almost.
I was waiting for this. You cover stuff like this greatly, and I just found out about her story yesterday. It truly is amazing how vince is making his company fall with losing talent like this.
I think HHH knew everything that was going. HHH is a master politician and knows how to always come on top as the baby face. Does anyone honestly believe that all the good comes HHH but anything wrong comes from Vince? Its all about the game and how you play it.
Facts!!! Hes another yes man. He literally said Vince is always right an if you dont agree you dont know business dont watch lol.
B Dhuyeb: Very astute callback!đđđ€đ€ŒââïžB.W.
Look at the era between 2002-2006. All the women who actually could wrestler were featured on Raw and all the women who couldnât do anything but model in the ring were on Smackdown. Also, between 2003-2005 most of this SD ladies only modeled in the ring or wrestled in bra and underwear matches lol.
I miss those times
@@Marcus-ge5lw as a 10 year old kid⊠yeah those were good times but if I had to look at that nowâŠ. OH HELL NO!
I can only imagine how bad it was. Women like Kaitlyn, Ember Moon, Toni Storm, Shayna Baszler, etc and even Raquel Gonzalez have been so mistreated in the main roster that it is laughable. Look at Asuka. She was a dominant undefeated champion in NXT. Once she jumped to the main roster, all that went out of the window. I am glad Tiffany Stratton is not under Vince. Because then she would only be showcased for her looks and not for her ability
Triple H and Shawn should start their own promotion. They should have capitalized on Ring of Honor.
Without the Game Triple H ,NXT is mediocre
More money is always good, but it can't always buy happiness. Not many talents do it for the money. Some cared about legacy. Everybody has an ego whether it's for more money, or being self-deserving. There's many talents such as Drew Gulak, Nakamura, Rollins, Edge, Orton, Kevin Owens, Sami Zayn, and Ziggler come to WWE just for the money, and not care about their legacy, while former WWE stars such as Moxley, Pac, Kushida, Gail Kim, Matt Hardy, Brodie Lee, Andrade, FTR, Cody and Adam Cole left WWE to build their legacy in other promotions, even though they were offered more money in WWE. Ember Moon was miserable and unhappy in WWE because she was under-appreciated, especially when being called up to the main rosters. When Vince and Bruce began to takeover NXT, they treated her like crap all over again, and it reached to the point where she had enough. Vince never really like her. So why stay with the company when the boss doesn't like you? If you feel miserable and mistreated, what do you do? You walk-out or hoping to get release. That's how Ember Moon felt.
good video
Bet you it was a John Lorinatus call. He always had a thing of the divas division back in the past and once he was rehired and once Paul stepped away it was all gonna happen. Not gonna excuse Vince either. Good at Athena (Ember Moon) to know her value and had enough.
That interview was quite the telling. Not that it shocked me but itâs down right depressing in a way when you hear in Athenaâs tone talking about her experiences in NXT right after Triple H left and what it was turning into. Itâs like the passion got knocked right outta this woman through no fault of her own.
I miss Ember Moon in the original NXT.
Ember is not aware of all those podcast/shoots over the years, you dont pitch creative ideas fornyour character or story, its Vince show and he calls the shots
âWomenâs Revolution.â
WWE women trying to overcome the barriers, that WWE themselves placed on them in the first place.
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To be fair mate they would act like that even if they had seen the interview bc itâs all about the company the wrestlers are just a means to an end
Ok, I went and watched the interview and the only thing I will agree with you is that yeah she doesnât come across as bitter. Now with that said I am going to counter your opinion with a pretty simple question, what else can you expect from a company that rewrites its scripts for its âflagship showâ minutes before going on the air? Or changing nxt in spite of themselves when it was going good until they decided to live and got their asses handed to them by aew. If it ainât broke donât fix it.
Nxt is dead and anyone who throws shit at Ember is because those are edrones
The issue I have with people like Athena and CM Punk etc etc... they blame wwe for a lot of things but man do they have 0 issues cashing those checks. And her getting injured doing a stupid angle is the same as she would've gotten injured in a match. Sue did it on company time. You know they paid for everything. And as am employee when my company says go work I either go yes or no and get fired. Everyone is bitter when they leave but what about the money and seeing the world?
Once Johnny Ace was rehired as the Head of talent relations the women's revolution died it goes to show you that Vince McMahon Bruce prichard and Johnny Ace never cared about women's wrestling and they never will they only care about having women dressing sexy it goes to show you that Vince McMahon Bruce prichard and Johnny Ace are old men who don't care about women's wrestling glad I watch Victoria Vs Trish stratus Hardcore Match from Survivor Series 2002 instead because women's wrestling currently in WWE is downright embarrassing and won't the women dressing sexy in NXT go against the women's revolution and especially WWE'S PG guidelines?
The Divas era is coming back looks eye candy more than talent
@@eLite-Tiss91 you're probably Right â ïž
...how is women's wrestling in WWE embarrassing when Becky and Bianca just had an all-time WM classic lol
@@MrBigdude912 What else ya got besides that?
@@timoaks3732 heâs got nothing besides that cause thatâs all they got. Todayâs WWE women segments are pure garbage. Just as bad as the divas era.
People make fun of the other companies womenâs division. But come on E drones!! These womenâs matches and segments are bad. Real bad. Awful. Hot garbage. You had 1 good MATCH at WM with 2 of the best around. Thatâs all you had.
By this point, people have to be prepared for THIS, this is what WWE is, in AEW I'm sure is similar but they have a lot of good will still.
released her. she asked what did I do wrong?. they told her oh you did nothing wrong.....
Don't forgot: "Budget Cuts"
10:32 I would be furious if someone wrote me into those sort of comedic angles which serves no purpose to my character
5:44- đ
Honestly I do believe one day HHH will be back in power creatively for NXT and he will be able to reverse the damage Vince has done
This self destruction of nxt and those nxt stars are including with the mess of 2020 and til now..With all those firings that happened in 2020 from talent to corporate..
Tk really need help booking these shows
God I wish Triple H still ran NXT
Ember moon is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too patient đ
Ember is every employee that does what sheâs told and still gets fired
When Hunter left that was the que to go.
Let's be real, wrestling is about looks and personality before actual wrestling ability. Historically, wrestlers were expected to have the ability to work in the ring, not so true anymore, but what always defined your drawing power was your character. She was always a fine worker, but I couldn't remember a single iconic match or promo she cut. Male talent are judged by either their look or personality, only one is required. Female talent, unfortunately, are judged by their looks, and it is expected you be either prototypically attractive or a monster. You can have some distinguishing characteristics around whichever one you are, but you have to be one of the two. She seemed like a tweener with her look, she is attractive with some monsterous features (her strong build, the contact lenses, the hair). You want everyone to do well, but there is only so much screen time and huge rosters, even AEW talent is seeing this. A lot of wrestlers, male and female, are realizing they're getting a solid check to do nothing and a lot of put all their eggs into being wrestlers and not much else in life, so they keep resigning and don't complain. I don't know what her next step is, but I hope she can make a living doing so. When people say they love the business today, I don't know what that means, this business doesn't love most talent back.
Charlotte Flair. She's not attractive, she's not a monster, she has no personality, and her promos are robotic hot garbage. If her name wasn't "Flair"...
You are right and she does have some slight working against her in the looks or promo department but as a promoter/booker/CEO/Head dude in charge, your main priority should be making the getting the most out of the talent you have which means recognizing their faults and either working around it or helping them fix it. The Way they work at WWE is whatever way the old man is feeling that day is the way we are working, I mean to have her get change back into her old character and then just..without a look at what she looks like or a run a match to see how it would look they just go...you know what never mind for now. Treating people like that is wrong and no way to treat someone especially when you need them like they needed women for the women's rumble this year. The sad part is eventually divas are gonna be too old to work and will have burned too many bridges with these women that they are gonna be screwed.
@@En4cer2K9 Maybe not to you, but long blonde hair, blue eyes, other obvious physical attributes say otherwise. She's the female Randy Orton. Both are attractive, can work, but have robotic promos. Family name got them to the top faster.
Thereâs more to a âgood lookâ than just âDress sexy.â And not everyone can be that way. Some can sure, but you need variety.
Thatâs the distinction.
@@darthsiddious7469 blonde hair and blue eyes doesn't automatically make her a barbie doll (despite all the plastic).
The point is that she's not where she is because of her looks, or anything else aforementioned in the comment above (which means it's not an excuse to throw talent away). There's nothing about her that even draws. What is Charlotte's character, besides being "Ric Flair's daughter"? At least Randy Orton make a character for himself, and got MASSIVLEY over with his finisher.
What she said is the truth and I had this feeling that ladies on the main card and in NXT donât like the fact that Mandy Rose got put in a position she doesnât belong in. I remember solomonster said that NXT was turning into sex land 2.0. If she felt like that then Iâm sure itâs other women who feel this way and will let the truth be known in interviews like this.
Honestly i don't blame her she deserved better, she didn't ask for much really, and for the ppl that says she's bitter, she's mad and so on ask yourself this question what if that was you.
Cc: Nikkita Lyons...(not even mad, just enforcing the "dress sexier" point).
How is it possible that triple h don't necessarily know what's going on? The talents that he helped created in NXT, goes to raw or SmackDown and their career don't flourish as well as it did when they were under his watch. I think we all know how well triple h is politician when it comes to wrestling, but I think he has forgotten that his father-in-law Vince McMahon, is the master of Masters of politicians. That's just my opinion.
Damn, I will never be able to get the image of her smiling after eating that sandwich out of my head every time they crap on someone's career. I still get mad at the sight of Shotzi's tank rolling into Smackdown with someone other than Ember on the back, with no warning or explanation.
I think I just figured out a new "Darkside of the ring" season. Have so many people talk about shit like this. This was a GREAT INTERVIEW (Chris is an excellent interviewer anyways.) This was very open and out there. I think this needs to get out more.
Too bad it was cancelled
Damn shame sheâs the ONLY person to speak on the behind the scenes b.s. Itâs like everybody else wants keep quiet so they can get rehired some day
Its the money simple
@@samanthasims7123 She also said in that interview that WWE offered her 5 times her pay to stay but she told them money can't buy HAPPINESS!
Missed opportunity not asking her about her original NXT run up to the point when she got hurt chasing the 24/7 title
Athena is now the ROH woman champion
I saw those tweets calling her bitter.. Those shills, those yes men, wwe loyalist.. Those sams folk would lose their shit if they were done the way Ember Moon was...
There are no winners in this situation. WWE needs a better way to communicate to talent than a backstage handshake and false promises. And talents like Athena are too entitled of their prospects they believe they deserve the whole world given to them because they have some talent. Itâs a business not grade school. If you canât bring attention to the product then you need to be cut. Go make a name elsewhere and WWE will likely give you a call. All this crying and shoot interviews arenât helping your case.
So, apparently (main)WWE doesnt even watch its own developmental product to the point that they have no clue who these call-ups are. Nothing concerning there... It also sounds like Vince, Laurenitis and co need more stroke fodder!
To me that most damaging part of the interview and she mention when she debuted on raw one of writer mention you might not get a reaction????? Like WTF
Well, now AEW thinks that getting lame nobodies that no one's ever heard of or cares about from ROH instead is a better idea.
I think she would fit in NWA better
14:50 I dont get Vince's obsession with the sexualization of its female wrestlers. I dont wanna see Mandy Rose clones. She was great in what she did, but others are better in doing other things. Rather than respecting that and try to find something accordingly, these people frustrate the talent with bogus ideas
There are some people in WWE right now i just can't stand seeing especially Matt Riddle and Baron Corbin
I have always been an advocate for women wrestling. What I love about WRESTLING is the different types of people, both men n women. I want to see sexy, Uber gorgeous women but I also want to see real world women too. Some women are valets n some are great wrestlers. The way they look should be second or third to talent. This is just another reason why I don't watch the shows anymore. WWE feels like the Titanic!
This So Mess Up On How They Did Her Dakota Kai Karrion Kross & A Few Others đ€ŠđŸ
You defend her, but you tear down CM PUNK for saying the same thing
Zubair Talk needs to watch this.
That boy needs help
I like ember moon go to the aew wresting
Itâll be called the divas division before long
The "Bra & Panties era" never ended in the WWE. It's funny how the WWE tries to portray themselves as progressive :)
She sounds extremely bitter to be honest! đ
Raunchier? I thought WWE is PC?
QUESTION: Why were the women in NXT told to dress more sexy, obviously, not Charlotte Flair or Becky Lynch? Asuka's character still dresses the same and I highly doubt when Bayley comes back that she'll be sex-ified! Bianca Belaire's look is tasteful as is Sasha Banks. I hope they don't change their styles but I'm afraid I'll have to hold my breath b/c the same old geezers are running Raw and SmackDown that run NXT!
Becky's outfit HAS gotten skimpier. Her red outfit was giving her an extreme wedgie.
Charlotte already does wear the Mandy Rose booty shorts.
Yes that sounds like wwe...and yes,a losing streak is always a great idea...đ
I donât want Athena in AEW. Thereâs too many women NOT used. Because they simply donât have enough time.
Well, there are other promotions, ya know. She could end up in Impact for all we know.
Hopefully her and Dakota go to Impact because we see how terrible AEW books women
You're CRAZY! That's JUST where she belongs. The women's division NEEDS her badly. I saw a photo of Thunder Rosa (the AEW champ), the Renegade Twins, and Athena together so it's very possible. (Course anything's possible I guess!!!)
Ooof, that unofficial mandate to "dress sexy" backstage sounds like a sexual harassment suit just waiting to happen. Imagine any manager at a normal job casually telling his female employees to dress more sexy and NOT getting his ass handed to him by HR before his first morning piss break. And WWE is a publicly traded company!
You know Iâm an old fart that still uses the term broad and I even find this crap offensive.
Can't wait to see her become ALL ELITE and have awesome matches with the likes of Anna Jay and Tay Conty. So happy there is a promotion that values workrate and character over good looks
That's assuming she even signs with AEW. There are other promotions, ya know. Hell, what if she signs with Impact? There are other options for the talent aside from AEW.
@@derek-64 but word is aew doesnt want her
@@samanthasims7123 whether they want her or not the are other options and other promotions. Impact, NWA, MLW, New Japan, etc. Plenty of places to go, not just AEW.
@@derek-64 New japan You mean stardom right?
@@derek-64 obviously but how will they book her
11:20, "We'll attract an audience by making it raunchier. That'll solve everything...." Facts! It's as if they don't even understand their own 'Attitude' era, or what actually made that.
Ah, those people calling her bitter, are just a bunch of goofy WWE fan marks that'll defend even the foulest shit WWE can do.
14:25-16:08 honestly I prefer the Attitude Era/Ruthless Aggression Era of women's wrestling (and no not just for puppies)
the glory days of Trish Stratus, Chyna, Lita, Jazz, Victoria, Ivory, Molly Holly, Jacqueline, Sable, Melina, Mickie James, Beth Phoenix, etc.
Not every women in the WWE at that time was Torrie Wilson, Stacy Keibler, Sunny, Candice Michelle, Kelly Kelly, Michelle McCool, Layla El, the Bella Twins, Tori, Ms. Kitty, Dawn Marie, and others
apart from the obvious sex appeal THEY WERE BADASS WOMEN WHO COULD WRESTLE in my opinion
and you can call them divas all you want (which unfortunately that's what they were called at the time) but those women from 20+ years are more enduring and memorable than any of the younger generation women's wrestlers of today
they didn't have to be these workrate/NXT-style wrestlers like Charlotte Flair and Becky Lynch (THE TWO MOST OVERRATED WOMEN'S WRESTLERS OF ALL TIME), Sasha Banks, Bayley, Asuka and the rest of these Women's Revolution wrestlers because that's their modus operandi: technical/workrate wrestling
it's not just WWE it's everywhere, AEW, Impact, the indys, and what have you
and nothing against the younger generation women but they just lack that gravitas, integrity and credibility like the previous generation
go ahead watch a classic Trish Stratus match that isn't a bras and panties match, watch a classic Lita match, watch Chyna, watch Jazz, Victoria and so on you'll see the difference
but yeah the Trish Stratus/Lita/Chyna era of WWF/WWE is the best period of women's wrestling in my own personal opinion
Least you didn't bring up fuckin' Sable and Sunny.
@@victorspell1 Sable was diva-ish and Sunny Sytch wasn't a wrestler
@@AziaXtremeNFinity Exactly.
She pretty much threw Mandy under the bus when she brought up her name, it will give fuel to trolls to go after her online.
She didnât throw Mandy under anything. I donât know how you came to that conclusion. She was calling out the assholes who had the meeting. They used Mandy as an example. Ember is just telling what they said
@@kena322 I know but it does seem Mandy was annoyed by her naming being used judging by her reaction to it on Twitter.
@@ThrashAD720 ok, I didnât see that. Iâll have to check it out
@@kena322 And now she said something about beyond the GIF.
She didnt not throw Mandy under the buses she literally they're Golden Girl in nxt 2.0 she was trying to say they want more divas wrestlers than actually womam wrestlers.
Ember is good not great. When she's competing against the likes of the Horsewomen, Asuka, & Ronda Rousey there's no way Ember was gonna be pushed as a top girl. If there was a Women's Intercontinental title that's what Ember's place would be..
Ember is a greart wrestler
Agreed but sheâs better than Mandy RoseâŠ
Ember is great. Shut up.
@@traetaylor310 most women wrestlers are better than Mandy.
@@eLite-Tiss91 sheâs a great wrestler as a superstar overall sheâs just okay.
The Current Women's Division still has a mixed of ladies different level of experience and looks. I don't get Ember shitting on girls in developmental that have no wrestling experience when her best friend is Alexa who came to WWE with no experience.
Who cares. She was a jobber. Next
here comes another "she was a jobber" comment.