Edgar Winter - Mission Earth - FULL ALBUM (1986[?])
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
- Mr. In-the-Shadows could have saved himself a pretty penny had he just checked Soulseek!
TRACKLIST:
0:00 - Mission Earth
6:52 - Treacherous Love
11:24 - Bang-Bang
15:47 - Teach Me
19:20 - Cry Out (Marching Song of the Protestors)
24:20 - Just a Kid
28:08 - The Spacer's Lot [allegedly a dirge]
32:48 - Joy City
It’s a solid lesson in what sheer skill can do with garbage materiel
Aka being overqualified for the job.
Todd in the Shadows may have actually turned this record into a hit.
The views on this are close to surpass how many albums they sold
He's how I learned of this.
Save for a few flops it’s a genuine banger
Winter is too quality an artist to make anything shy of tits up
Its great!
That’s the only reason I know about it. And it kinda slaps in some places. Ignore the Scientology bullshit. Edgar Winter was always experimenting man. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it don’t. Still better then a lot of stuff today that’s just trying to play safe.
"Warning: Songs may be Good"
yeah no shit this is actually some good stuff. Maybe the lyrics aren't great, but the melodies and musical ideas can be quite enjoyable, even if some of the original material is ludicrous.
I feel like the lyrical absurdity adds to this album. Like, this album could only have been produced in the 80s and it sounds every ounce of it. If the lyrics were better I'd feel cheated.
When Todd said he listened to Joy City like 15 times I had to hear it. And tbh, i dig it. Really speaks to Edgar Winters musical brilliance that he could shine such a reeking turd into something that’s actually kinda a bop
That shows how good of a artist Edgar is, the man was given shit and he came out with pretty good music
I've been humming the chorus to "Teach Me" for WEEKS I can't fucking stop please help
Agreed. Bang-Bang is a bit cringe.
This music sounds like the sort of thing a low-budget science fiction film would use as background club music
And then you end up buying the soundtrack of said film instead of the film itself.
Todd In The Shadows was correct, Edgar Winter tried his best with what he had to work with, this album is L. Ron Hubbard's creative failure.
Given how good some of the songs are (spacers lot in particular) it really is a testament to edgars talent
I literally can't stop playing Mission Earth, Treacherous Love, and Cry Out.
I love that other people came from Todd’s channel too :)
Among his writing.
That’s how I found out about this album too. Watched Todd’s Trainwreckords last night and just had to check out the whole album. It’s not terrible.. with different lyrics this could of been slapping.
genuinely sucks that this album slaps so hard
Ya look up the definition of 'mixed emotions' & it's just a pic of this album.
Late, but seriously. I don't think there's a song here i legit don't like at all. Some mediocre ones, but i like them so much.
Judge the art not the artist.
@@silentsneasel7965wow, brainwashed and scared. Your a joke
@@WllKiedSnake That's not always doable. Hard to enjoy one of those Woody Allen films about him courting a much younger woman when you know what he was doing between films.
Todd in the Shadows brought me here, and honestly, I’m glad he did. I actually do enjoy some of these songs. Teach Me, Spacer’s Lot, Cry Out, Just a Kid, they’re all great as far as I’m concerned.
todd sent us both, brother.
@@nustde00 He pretty sent everyone here, man! Even the uploader admits that, pretty much. :P
Though I do like most of the songs there, with a few of them like Bang-Bang & Just A Kid being songs that should have been cut.
@@crazyluigi6664 I can't believe how many absolute bangers this has....
Bang bang is an interesting song. Imagine an artist doing everything I would not.
Teach Me is my favourite Edgar Winter song.
I bought the CD for $20 last week.
It's going to live in my car. Hope I don't become too "seizure-inclined" like all the other Earthlings...
Im pretty sure saying earth is "seizure inclined" was another way of saying "ripe for the taking" as in with the state of things on earth it would be easily seized by aliens
@@eriktruchinskas3747 I think that's what's meant by it, but it's still shoddy writing in how easily it can be misconstrued.
@@ToastedWafflez but I mean joking aside why the fuck would everyone be epileptic and if they are why is it a big enough deal to actually sing about it? Maybe im thinking too hard..m
@@eriktruchinskas3747 Thats stupid
We are inclined to be epilectic
@@eriktruchinskas3747 no, Scientology tries to “treat” epileptic people by auditing them and not letting them take medicine.
im here from todd and holy crap, i love this album. the lyrics are complete garbage but the sax solos and cheesy as hell 80s production makes it for me
I have to come here to get my dose of "Joy City" now.
1. Yes, I still come here.
2. Yes, I'm replying to myself.
This is a trainwreckord in the sense that Hubbard's lyrics are trash. But, Edgar definitely put work into this album and its baffling Scientology meanings. The dude can play killer sax solos, which I love. But it isn't the worst album Todd has reviewed cause some songs, we can agree, are solid in their own little bizarre world. My favorites are Mission Earth, Treacherous Love, and who can't love Joy City?
I think the album is good when you remove all the contexts it has about the books. Ignore the title track and Bang Bang and Scientology connections then you got a half-decent album
@@witherblazethe second half of the title track rescues that song
This album is better than the book series. You just want to murder the narrator.
Low bar to clear though
The lyrics to Teach Me make my skin crawl.
It gets even worse when you realize that song is probably supposed to be about sex, and Winter just repurposes it.
Edit: Having rewatched Todd's video about the circumstances in the books and listened to the lyrics more intently, this song is literally about some dude promising to teach a chick something and using it as an excuse to fuck her. He's basically raping her. And then she goes on stage to encourage other people to do it too.
Written by L. Ron Hubbard himself!
@@Aleph3575 The song (from the book, at least) is literally about a guy going down on the female singer. It's... literally innuendo about cunnilingus. How are you guys getting rape out of it?
I said this when Todd posted the review, but I feel like the song in the book is some kind of loungy club song in the vein of All That Jazz from CHICAGO. And then Edgar’s song… sounds like something you’d hear from Richard Marx or Bryan Adams. And given the lyrics being sung, I don’t think the song is meant to be a love ballad!
I find it hysterical that a song that's probably about cunnilingus sounds like an Evangelical Christian worship song from the 90's.
love how the image changes to something more and more ridiculous as the album goes on
I legit lost it at” this is what Scientologists actually believe “😂
@@mikethegrunty5968 From that South Park episode!
You know, I legit forgot Edgar Winter was once in a classic Simpsons episode myself!
@@crazyluigi6664 which one?
I still don't get Garfeldi
Mission Earth - 0:00
Treacherous Love - 6:52
Bang-Bang - 11:24
Teach Me - 15:47
Cry Out - 19:21
Just a Kid - 24:20
The Spacer’s Lot - 28:08
Joy City - 32:49
Edgar Winter - soprano, alto, and tenor saxophones, sampler, keyboards, vocals
Rick Cruzen - synthesizers, sound effects
Ron Miscavige - trumpet, cornet
Tamia Arbuckle - bass, guitar, sound effects
Charlie Rush - sequencing, percussion, sound effects
Barry Stein - Hammond B3 organ, accordion, vocals
Additional personnel
Pavel Farkas - first violin
David Campbell - viola
John Walz - cello
Bob Peterson - violin
Vladimir Polimatidi - violin
Bob Becker - viola
Peter Schless - programming, sequencing ("Planet Earth")
Ali Darwich - Turkish tabla drums
Kotto Gabal - Turkish tambourine
Monique Winter - vocals ("Just a Kid")
Margie Nelson - vocals ("Teach Me")
Steve Ambrose - vocals ("The Spacer's Lot")
Bo Tomlyn - programming
Released 1986
Interesting, so this was recorded before Ron Miscavage left the church and his son became overlords puppeting Hubbard
Holy fuck, the second half of the title track goes HARD.
Right? Those drums! God I want a drum tab for it
@@Narnyx If Edgar can get that out of Hubbard's nonsensical ramblings, then he really is a genius.
I'm so glad Todds video inspired someone to upload this whole album.
Only “Todd” album I’m constantly come back to. The hook on Treacherous Love keeps me comin’.
Curse you for bringing me here, Todd in the Shadows! ... Although, to be honest, I really dig "The Spacer's Lot".
Best track on the album for me!
he warned you the songs were good...expect bang-bang.
Its arguably the best song in the album.
@@megamike15 I kind of like Bang-Bang, though that song and Just A Kid I could have done without the most.
@@crazyluigi6664 Bang-Bang and Just A Kid have such dumb lyrics that they actively detract for some decent arrangements.
Honestly, with the exception of Bang Bang, the songs on here are actually pretty awesome. I can't help but respect Edgar for making songs this good out of books this dreadful. I particularly like Treacherous Love, Teach Me, and Joy City. 💙
same
He didn't write the songs L Ron Hubbard wrote the music and lyrics I'm an ex scientologist
@@The_Wizard_Owlin_Celestialnaw watch todd in the shadows he did a long doc on it. L ron usually gets accredited to things he didnt do cuz scientology wants you to think he was more talented and successful than he was. He co wrote the songs with edgar and edgar did nearly all the work. L ron mainly gave him ideas and concepts and edgar did all the work. He gave him a manuscript of the books and edgar made an album with studio musicians and by mailing cassettes to hubbard and he would give suggestions. Thats really all his involvement and hubbard has a history of making extremely crappy music that sounds insanely bad such as the “computer synth soundtrack to his book” or the world most lo fi jazz album.
This is almost all edgar winter’s doing. He was working with the bonkers material of hubbard’s books and so any weird writing choices should be attributed to how weird and poorly written those books are.
Edgar winter is obviously a great musician and writer and singer so I don’t think that that is likely his fault any other than lack of proper material to build song lyrics off of.
I imagine the reason this album was buried and covered up and forgotten was because edgar likely wanted people to forget it and wanted to move on from scientology quietly, i didnt even know he was one. Its extremely obscure information. The only documentation of this album pre todd int he shadows is discogs.com edgar winter page and 80s news and interviews magaszines and such
Oh, how and when did I go wrong?
Was it women, drugs, or bawdy song?
Fucking ripper opening line, holy shit. Hits me right in the Catholic Guilt, I tell ya
'bawdy song' has me howling, half expecting him to start singing about wenches and taverns
Omw you put into words why I liked that line 😂
@@NeshaCora Geralt of Rivia is wondering, too 😂
@@NeshaCora its a weirdly antiquated lyric for a sci fi concept album for sure
As a practicing Catholic, I still don’t get what that means.
Todd in the Shadows brought me here
The 80's cheesiness of this album works in it's favor. "Teach Me" is amazing!!!
Teach Me and Mission Earth are the ones I catch myself singing all day.
I .. I really love "Teach Me". I've listened to it so many times 😅
It’s my favourite song from the album. I’ve unashamedly sung along with it many times.
@@Lamporre it's so good!
It's my favorite song. I would love to put it on my deezer playlist, if only that album was avaliable there lol
i mean, it's a good tune for Edgar Winter...royally messing up what was written very plainly as a burlesque number
The chorus saves it the hook is strong even though the lyrics are hacky cringe.
It was SEXY!
Hahahahaha 😂
What makes Teach Me even sweeter is that it comes in right after the absolute dud that is Bang-Bang.
*sonic experience for most of 'The Spacer's Lot': Calm, spacy, expansive
*sonic experience for the last minute of the song: AHHHHHHHH... AHHHHHHHH... AHHHHHHHH
Hate to admit this, but I totally dig a lot of these songs. Yeah, they're tonally wrong for this kind of album. Yeah, a lot of them sound like TV themes, but TV themes are fun and catchy.
Honestly, I unironically enjoy “The Spacer’s Lot.” More space shanties is something I’d love to see in Sci-fi.
We need a Sci-Fi Musical that's just balls to the wall retro-futurism...
YES. This song just… haunts and reels me right in
Upvoting just for the use of the term “space shanty”
Listen to Jon Anderson's Olias of Sunhillow. Side one is like Sci-Fi Shanties, side two is like film score music.
Thank you, Todd in the Shadows!
Joy City sounds like a great end credit track for a B-grade sci-fi/action film.
As a huge fan of House of the Rising Sun, having a sci-fi cover in the form of The Spacer’s Lot is quite a nice gift.
"allegedly a dirge"
I don't hear it, though. Humming "House Of The Rising Sun" and "Spacer's Lot" back to back and I don't hear much similarities. Am I tone deaf?
The music studio this was recorded in was built on slave labour; I know, I helped build it. I was crawling around the air conditioning ducts above the studio at the Gold Base when Edgar was rehearsing the songs whilst I was on the infamous RPF. It was a little musical relief from the slave labour. The music was a shitload better than the total dross that was Space Jazz written by Hubbard.
Have you considered getting into contact with Leah Remini and sharing your story in greater detail? I understand if you'd prefer privacy in case scientology goons harass you but experiences like yours are incredibly valuable and help show the dark side of the "church" of scientology.
Not gonna lie , this is kinda amazing
Thats because Edgar Winter is Kinda amazing. If this was done by anyone else, it would be garbage.
@@1cioda he really is
I bought this out of a discount bin back in the late 80's maybe early 90's and thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread (of course I now know otherwise) but it was a staple of my childhood and brought me into reading the series it was based on. I can't believe after all these many decades I've finally stumbled onto the album again all due to Todd in the Shadows because I forgot the name of the album itself. Thank you @goose for uploading this time rewind for me!
Thx for this. Wanted to try to find the full album on here, but all there was was old song rips from like 13 yes ago 😅
most of the songs were expunged from the net prior to a few days ago
Considering the source material, the album has no right to sound nearly as good as it does. Like I don't know how Edgar Winter did this but almost every song is infectious fun to listen too.
joy city sounds like the intro song to a 80s sitcom
Why does the ending of Mission Earth, from 3:32 on, feature an amazing breakdown featuring a SAX SOLO? Edgar Winter truly is a genius if he could get that from L Ron's long, rambling, incoherent-ness
I don't think Edgar used anything musically that L. Ron recommended. Anyone that ever spoke honestly about L. Rons musical abilities said he didn't have a single clue what he was doing with anything musically. I think L. Ron's influence was limited to lyrical choices.
Honestly, I totally relate to Todd when he says "Wait... Am I a Scientologist for liking this???" Haha. Never thought an album full of scientology propaganda would slap so hard.
The acapella section of 'cry out' is sublime. Edgar Winter has some talent. Never knew he could sing like that.
Honestly the bad lyrics kinda work on some of the tracks. It gives it kind of a unique charm.
You're doing the lord's work, goose.
THESE SAX SOLOS RULE
I listened to the whole album. OT 9 has been revealed
I came here after Todd gave me a mild obsession with the title track. I have that song in my head all the time. Glad to finally hear the full outro. Thanks for uploading OP!
Goddamn, Teach Me is great!
I'm so glad Todd called attention to this. There is no way on God's green flat Battlefield Earth I would buy this
Honestly both "Treacherous love" and "Teach me" are two of the most underrated songs of the 80's.
todd’s right about joy city, there’s so many hooks thrown out there and so much great stuff for a stupid scientologist album
edgar’s voice is weird but it isn’t bad. those vocal runs are great
Are you not surprised that I confess // Deep-seated secrets of the very highest
Songwriting at its very finest.
This makes Kilroy Was Here sound like Dark Side of the Moon.
Nah
I'm a big fan of this
Holy shit, nothing could have prepared me for how genuinely good the last few minutes of the first track was lol
TREACHEROUS LOOOOOOOOOVE
How did a comeback album this good from such a household name as Edgar Winter only sell 15K records!?!? Insanity!
This record is fascinating.
Always a good sign when the first line of the first song of the album is "Oh, how and when did I go wrong?"
I remember listening to this when it came out...and then I read the books...seeing Teach Me in Book 1 was very interesting
I realise that there is no guitar/ guitar player on this album !
Putting things in context , respectively the New Wave decade, in which all the sacred monsters of '70s had to make concessions to the trend (Genesis, Yes, Peter Gabriel, King Crimson etc), this is a great New Wave album, touched by the huge talent of Edgar Winter who is one of the few of the icons of the rock history who made the transition from the '60s to 2020s !!!
Two days ago , on 7th 2023 he just won a Grammy for his new album !
I gotta be honest, I'm finding this album extremely enjoyable. I'm a sucker for all things 80s and this album is full of them.
Besides, the songs are good enough to easily ignore the backstory behind them. And I would have to check the lyrics myself but if you didn't knew about the scientology thing or the novels, would you be bothered by them? They are cheesy and very basic but a lot of lyrics at the time were.
So yeah, fuck it: I like this album quite a lot. And I'm tired to say that I don't lol
same here, likewise I can enjoy some black metal bands like Grand Belial's Key even if they have some lyrics I'm totally against.
I’m here for Teach Me 😂 slaps tbh. Love that 80s cheese 😂
"Teach Me" sounds like an evangelical hymn. Odd choice for a song about sex.
Its so monged i like the musical elements in the chorus but the lyrics sound like a child being groomed for sex its weird and cringe af
This album absolutely should not go as hard as it should considering its lyrics are comically terrible and its based off a book series that's very uncomically terrible. I'd actually buy this shit, especially if they issued it with an instrumental disc too.
honestly astonished the unanimous opinion is that bang-bang sucks, its probably my favorite song on the album lmao
I think it might be that, in an album that never comes together as a cohesive whole, Bang Bang is the song that fits the least with the others. It's still fun on its own, I agree, but it still manages to be the odd one out.
@@Tzilandi yeah, the synth jazz pop or whatever you call it doesn’t really jive well with the cheesy 80s rock on the rest of the record.
I know it seems weird, but I actually really like the text layout and font on the CD itself as displayed around 10 minutes in. It brings back memories of the early days of CDs.
Ironically, this album is way better with “foggy pot!”
Scientology: The Musical
I can't believe it, but I like this. Hubbard was a con artist and a wacko, but he sure hired the right guy for this album.
I love the backing vocals on the chorus of Teach Me
Teach Me smacks so hard bro what the fuck
"Teach Me" is about the only song my ears can handle. It's actually pretty good and I wonder who was responsible for that (Winter or Hubbard?).
Hubbard. That song is a direct line from the book
@@Yikkoofficial he's referring to the music, not the god awful lyrics
Should be worth mentioning that Edgar Winter appears to have rewritten the lyrics for his version. Hubbard's lyrics were too cringe.
earth, a particularly epileptic planet
Looks like the other guy who had Joy City and all uploaded got taken down.
Well, that's a shame there.
I hate how much I dig the first song. It's when it gets to the chorus that it kicks in for me ad I'm like 'Fuck yeah'
thank you!
Just me vibing to a song about heroin addiction 💃
I give it an A+ simply for making something decent out of a book by the founder of Scientology
damn, the spacer's lot is like, super cool
ngl Joy City slaps quite hard
I have decided to progressively read through the mission earth series by buying the books all secondhand. I've only finished the first book and... wow I could write a book on this book. Admittedly it would be half the length of Mission Earth's first volume, but even with how innocent the first book is towards the topics the rest of the series gets into, having a 100 thousand word novel dedicated to what happens BEFORE Earth in a series where the Mission is one of Earth was... exhausting to get through.
And it only explains three songs on this album. Two of those songs come straight from the text. One of those songs is the opening track. Looks like Mission: Mission Earth is gonna be a long one.
I honestly like The Spacer's Lot. It sounds a little like a bad imitation of a White Door song.
This does seem like something that'd be some pseudo-80s satire thing you may see on Documentary Now about a weird concept album or something... it's almost that sort of intentionally silly 80s-ness. But that being said "TEACH ME" is catchy and got stuck in my head after Todd's video so I'm here...
Teach me goes harder than when I’m almost at the fap finish line
3:33 The drum stuff here goes fucking off big time! Legit shocked it hasn’t been sampled yet, cause man this is something you only dream of coming across
Banger
Honestly most people seem to have found this out because of Todd in the Shadows. For me it was the opposite, I discovered Todd in the Shadows because of this Album. Although I must say most of the people are overrating the hell out of this album.
It's not as bad as people exagerrate.
It's not a good album though.
Lyrics are trash, but it's an average album.
Not great, not terrible.
Joy City sounds like it could have been the theme song to an 80s tv show. Considering the source material its actually not as bad as it could be. Mainstream music artists have made far worse albums that sold a ton.
Honestly just a kid is a great song imo
I have a feeling that L Ron sent Edgar a ton of pre written songs, and Eric just chose the least worst of them all. No possible way did he write "Bang Bang"
Exactly my hypothesis...especially when you look into Space Jazz
yeah apparently Hubbard sent Winter lyrics and basic instructions for each. This EP is overall quite impressive in terms of having to follow that goofy writing
Foggy pot.
This is really cheesy.
Also be quick to listen to this before it gets taken down
My favs: the title Track, Teach Me, Joy City
The title track is pretty solid, but almost everything else leaves much to be desired.
I dunno, I like Joy City.
i like Treacherous Love, Teach Me, and Cry Out personally.
@@megamike15 Cry Out and Joy City are really the only others I could safely recommend. (Even then, an album inspired by Scientology's founder's wet dream is already a hard sell.) Teach Me is just... off to me. It sounds like the preset on a Casio keyboard from the 80s.
The funny thing is, Todd tried to insult "Just a Kid" by saying it sounds like the theme song to "Mighty Max", but the odd thing is he's spot on in that regard. "Just a Kid" would have been the perfect intro music for that cartoon. Also, I ended up giving it a watch out of curiosity thanks to Todd's reference. It's not half bad for a half-baked concept, heh.
Mighty Max was actually pretty rad for a kids show. It had some pretty scary stuff going on in the background of episodes where people often died in quite horrible ways.
Joy City slaps extremely hard I guess I’m a Scientologist now lmao
Bang-Bang is kinda funky.
From listening to the whole album, it's clear to me that Edgar Winter only did the bare minimum amount of research on the books he was supposed to be adapting, and who can blame him?
The amount of time it would have taken him to read the books would have likely caused him to miss the deadlines, so if he were smart he would have asked for the outlines from L. Ron and then just immediately disregarded them once he got them.
I tried reading dianetics and I just couldn’t , can’t imagine reading this series.
I'm probably the only one who thought this, but God damn Bang Bang feels like a Bob Fosse musical number.
I get some major bargain bin Kenny Loggins energy from Treacherous Love and Cry Out, but they're probably the biggest bangers on the album.
Why is it so good?
This shit slaps dude
Lol love the video description, hahahaha
The lyrics alone make this the funniest album I've ever heard. Dianetics was a decent read, but I've never read the rest of the Scientology canon and more than likely never will.