I still don't understand why this CZcams channel is not as popular as the most famous "influencers". Andy, your videos and your work deserve to be recognized around the world, i wish you the best and I hope your channel will become more popular. Regards!
This is Andy's second channel I believe. All of the videos on the original one were taken down. I am not sure why, but a lot of old videos are no longer available.
Español es mi lengua materna. Aprendí hablar portugués y entiende el catalán (viví en Barcelona un par de meses.) Es muy interesante ver la transición gradual desde el Aragonés hasta el portugués. Entendí casi todo. Muy bellos idiomas. Un saludo a todos mis hermanos y hermanas que hablan idiomas ibero romances orientales.
The naming in the video is a bit off, these are actually just the ibero Romance languages, a family Catalan and valencian aren’t a part of, they are spoken in Iberia but they are actually part of the gallo romance branch, also spoken in France northern Italy and parts of Belgium and Switzerland
Una nota a se tener en miente: 'Mirandese' (Mirandés) no es una lengua que se quedaría en el medio entre portugués y galego en un sentido de proximidad lingüistica. El Mirandés es una lengua que hace parte del complexo astur-leonés y Galego, Portugués y Fala [de Xálima] [Xalimego, Xamilmeño etc] son lenguas de un otro complexo, lo que se llama hoy de Galego-portugues
Salamat, Andy! I enjoyed hearing the similarities. I’m learning Brazilian Portuguese (Portuguese is my favorite language) & I speak Spanish too, so it’s very interesting to hear the differences that also sound familiar at the same time.
@@Nwk843 Until the middle of the 20th century, "Spanish" as a glotonym had no popular use anywhere on the Iberian Peninsula, as the Atlas ALPI surveys show. However, in Mexico, Central America, the Caribbean Islands or Colombia they used the term "Spanish" and instead of "Castilian" as they did in most countries of the South American continent and Spain. Curiously, the Canary Islands did the same as Cuba, contradicting the rest of Spain. In this distribution there are those who want to see Anglo-Saxon influence, and consider an Anglicism due to contact with the US in the last two centuries, since the independence of the colonies. Although it would be ironic if after ceasing to be Spanish their language begins to be. On the other hand, in countries where they use "Spanish", the expression to refer to the language in indigenous languages, however, is usually a locution equivalent to "lengua de Castilla" like in Nahuatl ho says "Caxtillahtolli", and references to Spain in these languages are very rare. On the other hand, it must be recognized that in Spain "Spanish" has been used since the 16th century in the written language. Therefore, it would not be popular among common speakers until the second half of the 20th century, but it is used in an erudite way among more educated people. As for the RAE, how was indeed the "Spanish" Academy, as Spanish institution, but the language in its grammars and dictionaries were being "... of the Castilian language" until 1920, at the proposal of Menéndez Pidal. In a time of nationalist exaltation, within romanticism, in the context of the prelude to the Dictatorship of Miguel Primo de Rivera, in which the use of any language other than Spanish within our borders was prohibited only three years after these event.
Thank you again for using my audio for Mirandese! But let me tell you that that Mirandese flag is purely fictional! Loved the video nonetheless Edit: in the Mirandese text, nua is supposed to have an accent on the u! Nũa!
Fun fact! Philippine languages are much more different with each other compared to the differences of languages like Spanish and Italian Philippine languages began to diverge from around 4,000 years ago
the language of the iberian Peninsula were also really different from each other (celtic, iberian, aquitaniannn....) but because of the roman empire invasion it all got kind of unified, thats why
I am very proud of my country. Spanish, Aragonese, Mirandés, Asturian-Leonese, Galician, Catalan-Valencian-Balearic and Basque are spoken here. 4 of those languages are already official, only 3 remain
There is any posibility that in the video you exchanged accidentaly the miranese with the aragonese? As a persone that talk catalan I see more similitudes between the mirandese an the catalan than with the aragonese, and knowing that the clasiffication of aranese is ambiguous at the day of today beacause of the similitudes between both languages maybe that is the case. On the other hand, grate video, I love your content!
Interesting comparisson but just one detail, Aragonese is not west iberian (iberorromance) but east iberian (occitanorromance) more related to catalan, occitanian and valencian
@@Svnfold Yes, Aragnoese and Eastern Mozarabic form a separate branch, but Aragonese, as a Northern-Iberian language, is always olbigatory ceceistic continuum, even in modern orthography it can be written as _zinco_ . Maybe, it is a dialect...
@@Nwk843 The literary Mozarabic shares many features with Zaragoza area old Aragonese and Navarro-Aragonese. Other parts of the Peninsula had another varieties of Romance, written in Arabic script (Algarve, Estremadura, etc.) Many of these people (so called Mozarabs) were cristians and used latin as their sacred language, but the everyday culture and science was under Islamic influence.
o mirandês tem uma entoação muito semelhante ao português do norte e centro de Portugal, enquanto que o português desta gravação tem uma carregada pronúncia lisboeta, que será mais próxima do português europeu padrão
Well, there are several different dialects of European Portuguese. But sure, Spain has more linguistic diversity, being larger, more populous and encompassing several languages in its territory
Waaait a minute. At 240...the story isnt translated right. In the English version at the top the character's name is "the breeze". In each and every one of the Romance language versions he is called "the North Wind". Same as each other, but different from the English example.
Random trivia on the side: Many of the areas on the map that are not "Spanish" have independence movements from Spain. The little thorn of Portuguese that reaches into Spain is an ongoing border dispute since Napoleon.
There used to be at least 4 versions of that depending on what time & scope you want: Celtiberian (a linguistic continuum), vulgar-Latin (also a continuum), Andalusian (an Arabic language) and Mozarabic (Latin with Arabic influences, but also spoken inter-iberian for a while)
As an Spanish native speaker I need to say that it is more difficult to understand a strong Cuban accent in perfect Spanish than this languages, (Portuguese, an Mirandese as an exception).
@@Nwk843Asturian is not Galaic. Idk what is Galaic, you mean "Galician-Portuguese"? It is not. Also we are not near oil and oc languages (supongo que estás traduciendo "idioma", idiom en inglés significa proverbio no lengua). If you mean we are quite similar to Catalan in the palatalization of initial l and the plural in es but nothing more.
As a native Spanish speaker (Central American variety), I also have the same struggle with Caribbean accents. It's continuous exposure what helps overcome that, I believe.
pero tú entiendes que estás leyendo el texto, y los narradores están hablando despacio a posta, no? un acento cubano a esta velocidad y con texto al lado se entiende mejor
this comment section is gonna be so bad. wait for the weird hispanists to come and be mean and assholes towards half of the languages on the list. happens every time with the regular commentors of this channel.
Excellent work! These languages have had a great influence on the Castillian language. For example, Aragonese has contributed to the formation of the "Aragonese Castillian" dialect.
@@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014 Hola! Si, tengo un ejemplo. Existe una herramienta agrícola denominada en castellano estándar “azada”. En castellano aragonés se la suele llamar “jada” y este nombre deriva del aragonés “xada” y no del castellano estándar. Como ese existen otros ejemplos en el vocabulario del castellano de Aragón y de la zona de Valencia que poblaron los aragoneses. Saludos!
Something that's very missing in many videos comparing Spanish with other languages it's that in Spanish we also have the numeral "un" too so we may say "un, dos, tres..." or "uno, dos, tres..." and no, its not the determinative article "un", it's an irregular or tonic form of "uno"
atonic, "un" is only used as an adjective before any word, a variations of uno, it's common in Spanish. "Grande/gran", "primero/primer", "bueno/buen", "segundo, según", "mi/mio,mia", "tu/tuyo,tuya", "su/suyo,suya", "uno/un".
@@jcpaulinho Uh, not at all, I get what you mean by "adjective" but I've heard it being used in sentences when people count things like "un, dos, tres..." as an "apócope" but if we just meantion the number 1 we say "uno" but if we count things it's usually to shorten it to "ub" for example "un lápiz, dos lápices, tres lápices..." same with a hundred, we say "cien lapiceros" not "ciento lapiceros" if we have to add more numbers after "cien" we say "ciento uno/ciento y uno"
Hi! Mirandese guy who spoke in the video here! I’d bet it’s because it is basically impossible to find Extremaduran speakers online, same applies to fala
Nope, Aragonese is not part of the occitano-romance. It has more differences from Catalan, than Castilian. But of course Aragonese has been influenced by Catalan, but it isn't even the same language.
@@leierkreuz1529 i never said they were the same language and Catalan isn't the only occitano-romance language. Aragonese is a separate language, clearly occitano-romance in its origin, closely related to southwestern Occitan dialects. Then it underwent a heavy Castillian influence so that makes it look closer to it, but this doesn't mean it's more related
@@nicolasdc31121 You said that Aragonese is Catalan so you said that is the same language and it's NOT. And it came from a branch of the ibero-romance languages, the old navarre-aragonese. Aragonese has influences from catalan because of its history. Just it.
West Iberian languages that from most straightward pronounciation to writing to least straightward pronounciation to writing: 1. Spanish, Aragonese, Asturian、 2. Galician (due the vowel reduction practice like their sister language, Portuguese)、 3. Mirandese, Portuguese.
I still don't understand why this CZcams channel is not as popular as the most famous "influencers". Andy, your videos and your work deserve to be recognized around the world, i wish you the best and I hope your channel will become more popular. Regards!
This is Andy's second channel I believe. All of the videos on the original one were taken down. I am not sure why, but a lot of old videos are no longer available.
Check the comment section in the Fijian-Polynesian video
Español es mi lengua materna. Aprendí hablar portugués y entiende el catalán (viví en Barcelona un par de meses.) Es muy interesante ver la transición gradual desde el Aragonés hasta el portugués. Entendí casi todo. Muy bellos idiomas. Un saludo a todos mis hermanos y hermanas que hablan idiomas ibero romances orientales.
The naming in the video is a bit off, these are actually just the ibero Romance languages, a family Catalan and valencian aren’t a part of, they are spoken in Iberia but they are actually part of the gallo romance branch, also spoken in France northern Italy and parts of Belgium and Switzerland
Una nota a se tener en miente:
'Mirandese' (Mirandés) no es una lengua que se quedaría en el medio entre portugués y galego en un sentido de proximidad lingüistica. El Mirandés es una lengua que hace parte del complexo astur-leonés y Galego, Portugués y Fala [de Xálima] [Xalimego, Xamilmeño etc] son lenguas de un otro complexo, lo que se llama hoy de Galego-portugues
Salamat, Andy! I enjoyed hearing the similarities. I’m learning Brazilian Portuguese (Portuguese is my favorite language) & I speak Spanish too, so it’s very interesting to hear the differences that also sound familiar at the same time.
good video, but for this case, Spanish should be named Castilian.
@@soltamale3870No it isn't, in Spain we call it "castellano"
Yes Castilian/Castellano is the original name for the language. "Spanish " is used because jts the most spoken and known language of Spain
@@SvnfoldCorrect
As a Spaniard, I don't really mind the term "Spanish"
@@Nwk843 Until the middle of the 20th century, "Spanish" as a glotonym had no popular use anywhere on the Iberian Peninsula, as the Atlas ALPI surveys show. However, in Mexico, Central America, the Caribbean Islands or Colombia they used the term "Spanish" and instead of "Castilian" as they did in most countries of the South American continent and Spain. Curiously, the Canary Islands did the same as Cuba, contradicting the rest of Spain.
In this distribution there are those who want to see Anglo-Saxon influence, and consider an Anglicism due to contact with the US in the last two centuries, since the independence of the colonies. Although it would be ironic if after ceasing to be Spanish their language begins to be. On the other hand, in countries where they use "Spanish", the expression to refer to the language in indigenous languages, however, is usually a locution equivalent to "lengua de Castilla" like in Nahuatl ho says "Caxtillahtolli", and references to Spain in these languages are very rare.
On the other hand, it must be recognized that in Spain "Spanish" has been used since the 16th century in the written language. Therefore, it would not be popular among common speakers until the second half of the 20th century, but it is used in an erudite way among more educated people. As for the RAE, how was indeed the "Spanish" Academy, as Spanish institution, but the language in its grammars and dictionaries were being "... of the Castilian language" until 1920, at the proposal of Menéndez Pidal. In a time of nationalist exaltation, within romanticism, in the context of the prelude to the Dictatorship of Miguel Primo de Rivera, in which the use of any language other than Spanish within our borders was prohibited only three years after these event.
Wow. Minhas línguas favoritas! Gosto muito das línguas Ibero Romances Orientais! Saudações/saludos a todos os/los irmãos/hermanos Ibéricos!
As a Portuguese speaker, i find the Mirandese dialect fascinating.
It is more complicated understanding the written form than what it is spoken.
dialect?
dialect?
😂lol. It's a language, bud, ☝️not a dialect.
Language.
Thank you again for using my audio for Mirandese! But let me tell you that that Mirandese flag is purely fictional! Loved the video nonetheless
Edit: in the Mirandese text, nua is supposed to have an accent on the u! Nũa!
Tü palras come premera llẽigua lo mirandese o lo portoguese? I si tès qualquera enfluença d'lo sotaqui di Lisboa.
@@RicardoBaptista33que coyones ye eso 💀
@@fueyo2229 xDDDDDD
Ey ũu teste.
Muito bom, Andy! Excelente comparação entre as línguas ibéricas ocidentais! Muito obrigado! :)
Fantástico video, Andy. Mis felicitaciones ❤
As a brazillian portuguese speaker, I understood 90% of all these languages.
Fun fact! Philippine languages are much more different with each other compared to the differences of languages like Spanish and Italian
Philippine languages began to diverge from around 4,000 years ago
Ok
@@Nwk843 "oceanid" isn't a thing.
the language of the iberian Peninsula were also really different from each other (celtic, iberian, aquitaniannn....) but because of the roman empire invasion it all got kind of unified, thats why
These are all mutually intelligible to some extent
I am very proud of my country. Spanish, Aragonese, Mirandés, Asturian-Leonese, Galician, Catalan-Valencian-Balearic and Basque are spoken here. 4 of those languages are already official, only 3 remain
There is any posibility that in the video you exchanged accidentaly the miranese with the aragonese? As a persone that talk catalan I see more similitudes between the mirandese an the catalan than with the aragonese, and knowing that the clasiffication of aranese is ambiguous at the day of today beacause of the similitudes between both languages maybe that is the case.
On the other hand, grate video, I love your content!
Nope, im a Mirandese speaker and it is correct
@@M_dMV Oh, so interesting, It has a very similar phonology to catalán. Thanks for answering.
Interesting comparisson but just one detail, Aragonese is not west iberian (iberorromance) but east iberian (occitanorromance) more related to catalan, occitanian and valencian
A intonação mirandesa parece mais portuguesa do que portuguesa mostrada aqui! --- E o locutor aragonês tem SeSeo no seu Cinco?
Different language so it may sound different than Castilian to a degree
@@Svnfold Yes, Aragnoese and Eastern Mozarabic form a separate branch, but Aragonese, as a Northern-Iberian language, is always olbigatory ceceistic continuum, even in modern orthography it can be written as _zinco_ . Maybe, it is a dialect...
@@Nwk843 The literary Mozarabic shares many features with Zaragoza area old Aragonese and Navarro-Aragonese. Other parts of the Peninsula had another varieties of Romance, written in Arabic script (Algarve, Estremadura, etc.) Many of these people (so called Mozarabs) were cristians and used latin as their sacred language, but the everyday culture and science was under Islamic influence.
o mirandês tem uma entoação muito semelhante ao português do norte e centro de Portugal, enquanto que o português desta gravação tem uma carregada pronúncia lisboeta, que será mais próxima do português europeu padrão
@@miguelferreira4157 Intonação é a forma relatinizada /da mesma palavra!/, entoação - mais viva. Existe tb *entoNação* rsrsrs.
I feel like most of Portugal speaks the European version of Portuguese, while Spain has many languages/dialects
You think?!
@@tcbbctagain572 According to the lingual map
Well, there are several different dialects of European Portuguese.
But sure, Spain has more linguistic diversity, being larger, more populous and encompassing several languages in its territory
No. There’s also Galician Portuguese.
Where are you from?
Waaait a minute. At 240...the story isnt translated right. In the English version at the top the character's name is "the breeze". In each and every one of the Romance language versions he is called "the North Wind". Same as each other, but different from the English example.
Random trivia on the side: Many of the areas on the map that are not "Spanish" have independence movements from Spain. The little thorn of Portuguese that reaches into Spain is an ongoing border dispute since Napoleon.
Can you do the same with the Gallo Romance languages
I wonder how an inter-iberian language would look like
There used to be at least 4 versions of that depending on what time & scope you want: Celtiberian (a linguistic continuum), vulgar-Latin (also a continuum), Andalusian (an Arabic language) and Mozarabic (Latin with Arabic influences, but also spoken inter-iberian for a while)
mozarabic language
Nice video 😍😍💪
As an Spanish native speaker I need to say that it is more difficult to understand a strong Cuban accent in perfect Spanish than this languages, (Portuguese, an Mirandese as an exception).
Cuban dialects have Asturian influence!
@@Nwk843Asturian is not Galaic. Idk what is Galaic, you mean "Galician-Portuguese"? It is not.
Also we are not near oil and oc languages (supongo que estás traduciendo "idioma", idiom en inglés significa proverbio no lengua). If you mean we are quite similar to Catalan in the palatalization of initial l and the plural in es but nothing more.
As a native Spanish speaker (Central American variety), I also have the same struggle with Caribbean accents. It's continuous exposure what helps overcome that, I believe.
pero tú entiendes que estás leyendo el texto, y los narradores están hablando despacio a posta, no? un acento cubano a esta velocidad y con texto al lado se entiende mejor
Compare Basque, Abkhazian, Chechen, Chinese, Ket and Navajo Languages, please.
Thank you for clarifying anf giving detailed information about langauges in Spain💜💜
this comment section is gonna be so bad. wait for the weird hispanists to come and be mean and assholes towards half of the languages on the list. happens every time with the regular commentors of this channel.
Excellent work! These languages have had a great influence on the Castillian language. For example, Aragonese has contributed to the formation of the "Aragonese Castillian" dialect.
Can you give an example? (I speak Spanish)
@@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014 Hola! Si, tengo un ejemplo. Existe una herramienta agrícola denominada en castellano estándar “azada”. En castellano aragonés se la suele llamar “jada” y este nombre deriva del aragonés “xada” y no del castellano estándar. Como ese existen otros ejemplos en el vocabulario del castellano de Aragón y de la zona de Valencia que poblaron los aragoneses. Saludos!
Very cool thanks.
Mirandese, Galician and Portuguese. ❤
Something that's very missing in many videos comparing Spanish with other languages it's that in Spanish we also have the numeral "un" too so we may say "un, dos, tres..." or "uno, dos, tres..." and no, its not the determinative article "un", it's an irregular or tonic form of "uno"
atonic, "un" is only used as an adjective before any word, a variations of uno, it's common in Spanish.
"Grande/gran", "primero/primer", "bueno/buen", "segundo, según", "mi/mio,mia", "tu/tuyo,tuya", "su/suyo,suya", "uno/un".
@@jcpaulinho Uh, not at all, I get what you mean by "adjective" but I've heard it being used in sentences when people count things like "un, dos, tres..." as an "apócope" but if we just meantion the number 1 we say "uno" but if we count things it's usually to shorten it to "ub" for example "un lápiz, dos lápices, tres lápices..." same with a hundred, we say "cien lapiceros" not "ciento lapiceros" if we have to add more numbers after "cien" we say "ciento uno/ciento y uno"
The number is always called uno never un. You can’t say el número un, in Aragonese you can
Iberian-Romance languages. ❤️💚💙
You should do one of these with the Gallo-Romance languages!
As a speaker of Spanish (Castilian) and Portuguese, my brain used a Castilian lens to understand some, and a Portuguese lens to understand others
Question. Why is not mentioned Extremaduran? He is more spoken than Mirandese for example.
Hi! Mirandese guy who spoke in the video here! I’d bet it’s because it is basically impossible to find Extremaduran speakers online, same applies to fala
Euskara: Nor zara zu?!!! EZ ZAITUT ULERTZEN!!!
Calling Castilian “Spanish” would be like if The UK renamed English to The British Language…
In Spain, they call it castellano (Castillian), but in the Americas we call it español (Spanish)
Aren't these "Iberian-Romance" languages?
Yes
Actually Aragonese is originally an occitano-romance language (same group as Occitan and Catalan) that went under heavy Castillian influence
@@Nwk843 exactly. So is Catalan.
Nope, Aragonese is not part of the occitano-romance. It has more differences from Catalan, than Castilian. But of course Aragonese has been influenced by Catalan, but it isn't even the same language.
@@leierkreuz1529 i never said they were the same language and Catalan isn't the only occitano-romance language. Aragonese is a separate language, clearly occitano-romance in its origin, closely related to southwestern Occitan dialects. Then it underwent a heavy Castillian influence so that makes it look closer to it, but this doesn't mean it's more related
@@nicolasdc31121 You said that Aragonese is Catalan so you said that is the same language and it's NOT. And it came from a branch of the ibero-romance languages, the old navarre-aragonese. Aragonese has influences from catalan because of its history. Just it.
@@nifelheirn it is by linguists, Spanish nationalists are the only ones who deny it
West Iberian languages that from most straightward pronounciation to writing to least straightward pronounciation to writing:
1. Spanish, Aragonese, Asturian、
2. Galician (due the vowel reduction practice like their sister language, Portuguese)、
3. Mirandese, Portuguese.
A lingua basca é uma lingua não romanica, esta lingua não se comunica muito bem com linguas romanicas
@@soltamale3870 sim
In the video already said that Basque is non-Romance language
La lengua asturia es muy similar al castellano rioplatense
Bring back the video about Chechen
Parece que el vasco tiene una lejana origen caucasa.....
No final parece ser uma mistura psicodélica de línguas. Muito legal.
Can you make a video about the Latin language?
the guy who spoke the numbers is brazilian and not european portuguese.
no
He's portuguese, probably from lisbon
First!
I'm spanish😗
Eu sei falar português
Please make the Gilaki Language if you want I can speak it I want people to know the Language
Uau uau uau uau, eba, CONTROUMETAU COLAFIRAPON
Castilian
🇲🇺🕉️
Real Madrid