Trident Autoland Demonstration

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  • čas přidán 4. 01. 2017
  • A demonstration of the first autoland system fitted to the De Havilland DH121 Trident in the early 1960s.
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Komentáře • 97

  • @IrishvintageTVRadio
    @IrishvintageTVRadio Před 4 lety +172

    What a wonderful piece of marketing this is, captain looking back at the camera as the plane lands itself, not a care in the world.

    • @Dan_the_Great_
      @Dan_the_Great_ Před 3 měsíci

      Sadly this won’t ever be done again. I hope Lockheed makes a new one

    • @calvinnickel9995
      @calvinnickel9995 Před měsícem +1

      @Dan_the_Great
      What are you talking about? Tons of modern airliners have CATIIIB Autoland.
      Lockheed? That would be a disaster. The L-1011 was late into service, sold very few examples, and was early into retirement because Lockheed treated it like a cost-plus-fee military contract.
      Most of what the L-1011 had going for it was luck. (Delta 1080 should have crashed due to a jammed stabilizer, Eastern 935 should have lost all hydraulic fluid and crashed due to centre engine explosion).

  • @Robert_N
    @Robert_N Před 3 lety +122

    Amazing aircraft. Dad RIP was a captain on the Trident aircraft from 1965-1974. He loved flying it.

    • @anthonyglee1710
      @anthonyglee1710 Před 2 lety +5

      Wow, I bet you had loads of questions when he came home. Rest in Peace to your Dad. I hope you have very happy memories.

    • @Robert_N
      @Robert_N Před 2 lety +4

      @@anthonyglee1710 When he transferred from the Trident to the B707, he felt the difference in technology between them. The B707 didn't even have powered controls. It had cables. The British were way ahead of the Americans in aviation technology at the time. The only let down for the Trident was it's poor take off performance in hot weather.

    • @peteconrad2077
      @peteconrad2077 Před 2 lety

      @@Robert_N may I ask your dads name. I flew with many ex trident and 707 pilots when I started my career. Wonder if I met him.

    • @Robert_N
      @Robert_N Před 2 lety +1

      @@peteconrad2077 Sorry I won't give out personal information on the internet, but if you tell me your airline, I'll let you know if it's the same one.

    • @peteconrad2077
      @peteconrad2077 Před 2 lety

      @@Robert_N I’ve established it’s the same one. I just wanted to know if I knew and flew with your father. I understand your reluctance to share personal information. All the best.

  • @yogaeka9458
    @yogaeka9458 Před 3 lety +41

    badass explaination, even he didnt look at Instrument, Co Pilot did. What a Great Marketing

  • @anthonyglee1710
    @anthonyglee1710 Před 4 lety +51

    I miss old Britain and the stiff upper lip. We did great things in the old days.

    • @igormarinkovic1531
      @igormarinkovic1531 Před rokem +4

      its crazy how many inovations came from Britain ! hell even jet engine !

  • @alanh7495
    @alanh7495 Před 2 lety +22

    Back in 1968 I was on a Trident flight from London to Glasgow and then later in the day back to London again. The autoland was clearly in operation as the engine RPM was constantly making subtle alterations during the final stages of the approach. The system was remarkably advanced for the time and worked very well.

    • @YaBoyFlaky5663
      @YaBoyFlaky5663 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Dayum that means your over 60!

    • @Jackophil
      @Jackophil Před 20 dny

      Autothrottle caused the engines to continually 'make subtle alterations', during an approach, but that didn't necessarily mean that autoland was in use. It could be an autocoupled approach to a manual landing, or a manually flown approach using autothrottle. The autoland system was excellent, however. For quite a while, in foggy weather, Tridents were the only aircraft flying.

  • @tuluksvui747
    @tuluksvui747 Před 4 lety +17

    Bro!... I thought he was in a sim the way he was casually explaining

  • @nikobelic4251
    @nikobelic4251 Před 4 lety +22

    Autoland this makes it hard to believe pilots will disappear in the next few decades because the same tech has been here since this day and we still have 2 pilots.

    • @ZBA1
      @ZBA1 Před 3 lety +6

      roman you fat fuk!

    • @devintariel3769
      @devintariel3769 Před 2 lety +3

      @@ZBA1 cousin?

    • @ZBA1
      @ZBA1 Před 2 lety +1

      @@devintariel3769 hahahahaha

    • @calvinnickel9995
      @calvinnickel9995 Před měsícem

      Auto land isn’t to make flying easier. It’s to make extremely difficult landings possible.
      Very few aircraft are CATIIIB Autoland capable. They need special instruments and displays and those have special maintenance requirements (thus it’s placarded on the aircraft whether it’s currently capable of CATIIIB operations or not).
      Not many airports are capable of CATIIIB operations. They also have to have the equipment that is rigorously tested as well as having instant backup power in case of an outage. They also have to be conducting CATIIIB operations which requires more spacing and aircraft on the ground to hold further away from the runway.
      The crew has to be CATIIIB certified as well through training and simulator tests.
      And when a CATIIIB autoland is being performed.. it’s not like this. They were able to do this because the weather was good and a single pilot can easily monitor the instruments and outside. In a real CATIIIB landing you don’t have time. You have one pilot monitoring the instruments ready to perform the missed approach if something goes wrong and one pilot looking outside ready to perform the missed approach if what he sees doesn’t make sense.
      And CATIIIB means an autoland.. CATIIIC.. which allows the autopilot to control the rollout and apply steering, brakes, and reverse doesn’t exist yet.

  • @leesmith8366
    @leesmith8366 Před rokem +2

    This pilot can afford to be relaxed, he is on the best aircraft in the world.

  • @spoonnz
    @spoonnz Před 6 lety +63

    How wonderful the 60's were. not a care in the world.

    • @ToastediPod
      @ToastediPod Před 4 lety +13

      The Cold War would like a word

    • @AbcdEfgh-sq2tf
      @AbcdEfgh-sq2tf Před 3 lety

      @@ToastediPod tbf it could have ended if Kennedy wasnt assasinated

  • @antman5474
    @antman5474 Před 3 lety +6

    When it's foggy it's rarely windy.

  • @georgeorwell100
    @georgeorwell100 Před 5 lety +12

    I remember seeing a Trident at RAF Luqa. It was part of a sales pitch in 1963. Wonderful aircraft. The pilot barrel rolled it as he climbed. Spectacular.

    • @bmc9504
      @bmc9504 Před 5 lety

      Barrel rolled????

    • @TheBuccaneer1975
      @TheBuccaneer1975 Před 2 lety

      @@bmc9504LOL I think he means aileron roll, I read of a VC-10 pilot doing the same thing.

    • @peteconrad2077
      @peteconrad2077 Před 2 lety +1

      @@TheBuccaneer1975 an aileron roll would likely have wrecked the aircraft. A barrel roll maintains normal acceleration and can be done safely. Tridents, 707s and even Concorde have been successfully barrel rolled.

    • @Smudgebob72
      @Smudgebob72 Před 2 lety +2

      @@peteconrad2077 yep! Captain Brian Walpole was the only Brit to barrel roll Concorde (according to a video I saw recently) another aircraft lost to history and makes me misty eyed! 🥲

    • @peteconrad2077
      @peteconrad2077 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Smudgebob72 hardly. Brian Trubshaw the test pilot rolled it own way and then Walpole rolled it back the other way.

  • @gunner678
    @gunner678 Před 5 lety +7

    I flew home from Split after my Bosnia tour on a trident in absolute luxury....it was a hercules on the way out, so luxury is a relative phrase.

  • @avamendez1272
    @avamendez1272 Před 6 lety +7

    how i love the HS-121, there is a model of her atop my desk. she brought me through flight school and to the airlines. I never had the chance to fly aboard her, however; she is forever in my heart💖

    • @lightningdev1
      @lightningdev1 Před 5 lety +1

      It was a he

    • @lightningdev1
      @lightningdev1 Před 5 lety

      r/wooosh

    • @Robert_N
      @Robert_N Před 3 lety

      Amazing aircraft. My Dad RIP was a captain on the Trident aircraft from 1965-1974. He loved flying it.

    • @anthonyglee1710
      @anthonyglee1710 Před 2 lety

      Wonderful memories, thank you for sharing Ava.

  • @Cobraguy321
    @Cobraguy321 Před 2 lety +1

    Having worked in the Hawker Siddeley film unit and help make many films on the trident, one Clear to Land with Jimmy Phillips flying us on test blind landings for the film and thr flight test dept at Hatfield. It was a great aircraft and I have many memories.

  • @DomoniqueMusiclover
    @DomoniqueMusiclover Před 3 lety +1

    So AMAZING.

  • @jordanbooth3748
    @jordanbooth3748 Před 3 lety +4

    Look how relaxed he is 😂

  • @RobbertsTravelGuides
    @RobbertsTravelGuides Před rokem +1

    so far ahead of its time

  • @contemporaryglassmirror2175

    Amazing, Just Amazing

  • @davewestner
    @davewestner Před rokem

    That was a well timed speech

  • @MrGoneTroppo
    @MrGoneTroppo Před 2 měsíci

    Bring back all-analogue!

  • @LordLauderdale
    @LordLauderdale Před 29 dny

    How cool

  • @fuffoon
    @fuffoon Před 2 lety +2

    My mental image. I see the pilot standing in the cockpit doorway on the PA explaining this to all the freaked out passengers while the copilot is demonstrating confidence by performing a juggling act with mini cocktail bottles next to the galley as the airplane lands. The pilots happily exit the aircraft while the passengers are zombified with fright for the next 72 hours. Just riffing.

  • @falconpilot5206
    @falconpilot5206 Před 2 lety +4

    Amazing feature for such an early stage in air travel!

    • @jeshkam
      @jeshkam Před rokem

      At the time perhaps.

  • @dady1981
    @dady1981 Před rokem +2

    Like a boss

  • @Dan_the_Great_
    @Dan_the_Great_ Před 3 měsíci

    The mics back then fr were interesting

  • @MH-fb5kr
    @MH-fb5kr Před 5 měsíci

    Impressive

  • @regiomontanus2438
    @regiomontanus2438 Před rokem

    This system enabled the Trident to perform the first automatic landing by a civil airliner in scheduled passenger service on 10 June 1965 and the first genuinely "blind" landing in scheduled passenger service on 4 November 1966
    see wikipedia "Hawker Siddeley Trident"

    • @jeshkam
      @jeshkam Před rokem

      The blind one must have been terrifying.

  • @ewaf88
    @ewaf88 Před 6 lety +14

    These two pilots and the design team could have got automated cars to our roads in the late 60's - the only problem would have been trying to fit the computer into the boot.

    • @davida1610
      @davida1610 Před 5 lety +10

      Disagree strongly, autonomous cars aren't viable due to too many variables that cannot be pre-programmed for. Besides operating a fine road machine is too enjoyable to give up the fun !

  • @jesswinteringham5167
    @jesswinteringham5167 Před rokem

    I'm working on a documentary and looking for footage of the radar. Would anyone be able to help?

  • @yazikhodayar
    @yazikhodayar Před 3 lety +3

    What airport is this

    • @MrMJKTuck
      @MrMJKTuck  Před 3 lety +3

      It was RAE (Royal Airforce Establishment) Bedford. It was likely the only airfield with the equipment that provided the autoland capability for the Trident. In the 1960's none of this equipment existed at airports like it does today.

    • @joegrimeh950
      @joegrimeh950 Před 3 lety

      @@MrMJKTuck The narrator says in the introduction that it’s Hatfield Aerodrome - Located in Hertfordshire. Which would make sense as this was DeHavillands main testing and manufacturing facility at the time.

    • @MrMJKTuck
      @MrMJKTuck  Před 3 lety +1

      @@joegrimeh950 Yes, the narrator does say that but he is incorrect. They used the facilities at RAE Bedford for all the development testing.

    • @joegrimeh950
      @joegrimeh950 Před 3 lety

      @@MrMJKTuck Interesting! Thanks for the info! I visited the Hatfield museum a couple years ago since my Grandmother lives nearby in Herts. Fantastic place! but they did not mention that it was tested at RAE Bedford. What has the issue? Did Hatfield not have the infrastructure for a CAT 2 or 3 ILS Approach at the time?

    • @MrMJKTuck
      @MrMJKTuck  Před 3 lety

      @@joegrimeh950 I believe that was the reason. You must be referring to the De Havilland Museum in nearby London Colney. They have the original Mosquito prototype on display there.

  • @rocknwash
    @rocknwash Před rokem

    What year was this please ?

    • @MrMJKTuck
      @MrMJKTuck  Před rokem

      The Trident performed the first automatic landing by a civil airliner in scheduled passenger service on 10 June 1965 and the first genuinely "blind" landing in scheduled passenger service on 4 November 1966. This clip probably originated around that same time, maybe a year or so before.

  • @trevorsmith7753
    @trevorsmith7753 Před rokem

    So, why do pilots always land manually today? And go around or divert in cases of poor visibility?

    • @tomasdusil8273
      @tomasdusil8273 Před 9 měsíci

      That´s for a maintain in flying skills. Autoland is great feature, but if the ILS (Instrument Landing Ssytem) is inoperative, the autoland is not useability. I think.

    • @m1co294
      @m1co294 Před 5 měsíci

      ​​@@tomasdusil8273 autoland is very much usable, pilots prefer manually landing the plane because its unnecessary to automate it, especially since 90% of the flight is on autopilot anyway.

  • @stalag14
    @stalag14 Před 5 lety

    God save The Queen.

  • @antman5474
    @antman5474 Před 3 lety +7

    Rule Britannia, Britannia rules the waves! But that aside I can't believe I just saw that, I mean the Trident did it first or did it not!!!
    automatic landing ffs. impressive stuff!!! Rule Britannia, ...

  • @foxkill7
    @foxkill7 Před 2 lety +3

    Sterile cockpit!!🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

  • @Renato.Stiefenhofer.747driver

    I have done many autolands on the 747-400 and -8 and I have never seen anybody looking back during touchdown. Never. Either this guy was plain stupid or this was a simulator. My five cents.
    Automation is still very helpful, of course. But autonomous flying is a thing of the very distant future. The third dimension is a hundred times more complex than sending Teslas down the road.

    • @MrMJKTuck
      @MrMJKTuck  Před 3 lety +12

      The co-pilot was also a test pilot and ready to take over if necessary. It was a genuine approach (into RAE Bedford actually - not Hatfield as stated in the clip). Purely a test demonstration flight of course - no passengers on board.

    • @user-rc1ke1ef3t
      @user-rc1ke1ef3t Před 3 lety +4

      @@MrMJKTuck As much as I enjoyed the clip, the poster was right. Seat back and looking back in an airliner making an automatic approach and landing was and is foolhardy. It’s a 2 pilot operation. No matter how well the automatics are performing, they need constant monitoring by both pilots at such a critical stage of flight. It’s certainly not a “hands off” situation. Fly like that regularly and eventually Murphy will get you. Thankfully, cockpit discipline and operating procedures have come a long way since the days when this little gem was shot. This would not happen in today’s flight deck. Signed; a 737NG captain.

    • @MrMJKTuck
      @MrMJKTuck  Před 3 lety

      @@user-rc1ke1ef3t Absolutely 10 9, can't disagree with you there.

    • @blueb0g
      @blueb0g Před 3 lety +13

      @@user-rc1ke1ef3t Yes I don't think anyone is claiming this should be done on the line. It's a marketing gimmick for the cameras on an empty plane with two test pilots.

    • @PenzancePete
      @PenzancePete Před 3 lety +6

      Wind your neck in old mate. This was a test landing with an empty aircraft to demonstrate auto-landing. This may be routine nowadays but in the 1960's it was real 21st century stuff.