Criminal Psychologist Explains Twisted Mind Of The Zodiac Killer
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- Dr. Eric Hickey is a criminal psychologist known for working with some of the world’s most notorious serial killers. In this episode of Unraveling, he lays out the mystery surrdounding the infamous Zodiac Killer, and gives us clues at who the culprit could possibly be
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The Zodiac Killer
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Pawn Shop Robbery, Safe Cracking, Robbery, Police Dust For Finger Prints…
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I love how he repeatedly calls him a coward. This needs to be done more than glorifying these assholes.
Yes! This comment! There is this inclination to characterize killers, especially serial killers, as “intelligent.” If you look at statistics, high IQs are actually the exception, not the rule; usually they’re just lucky or benefit from plausible deniability or police ineptitude. Look at Dahmer: one of his victims went to tell police, and the police took him back to Dahmer’s house because they didn’t believe there was a serial killer targeting gay, ethnic minority men.
You don’t have to have superior intelligence to kill unsuspecting people, just a lack of empathy and remorse. If you’re sick enough to do it, it’s easy to kill people who aren’t expecting it.
@@innocentnemesis3519 it would also potentially dissuade potential killers from doing it if they knew they'd get mocked and called cowards like this instead of movies and tv shows where they are glorified.
He can call him whatever he wants, most ppl would be too afraid to do what Ted Cruz did.
@@Handlebrake2 what he do
@@user-xw4od8kb7y he committed all these murders and sent them cryptographic teases.
Dr Eric Hickey? You can't fool me Jigsaw
Would you like to play a game?
He does look just like him lol.
😂😂😂. So right!!
Wanna play a game??
RIGHT??? I thought that was him in the thumbnail
Dr Hickey is brutal, “He was just not a very effective killer”, I’m sure the Zodiac Killer would have bristled at that…
Well considering that he got away with a number of kills, I doubt so.
@@Handlebrake2 how many people survived from attacks with intent to kill from people like Jeffrey Dahmer or John Gacy?
The zodiac did manage to kill people, obviously, but he was sloppy at it. finding an isolated car, running at it and shooting the occupants isn't difficult. Letally stabbing someone, sliglthly more so. And he failed more than once at that...
the zodiac just didn't have a "killer mindset", he would run up to people, shoot/stab as quickly as possible and run away. This suggests he didn't particularly enjoy the act itself nor was he a particulary skilled killer. The choice of weapon is also important, for example if you want to be sure to kill someone, strangling them instead of going by knife/gun is much more efficient and foolproof. Which is why it's such a common trope amongst serial killers.
I could potentially and relatively easily kill someone by running them over with a car, doesn't mean i am good at killing people
Two survived out of seven.
That, factually is not very effective.
(Which is the way the Dr. Meant it)
@@Daddy53751 that is pretty effective, 71.4% kill rate
@@carlnickson7353 well,
Putting aside that he went after totally unsuspecting, unarmed marshmallow soft targets,
71.4% is a C-.
He was far better at puzzles.
Please make these interviews with Dr. Hickey a series! I love to hear him talk about what he knows!
He doesn't "know" as much as he presumes to. His Ed Gein analysis for starters.
Pretty much nothing. Whatever he thinks he knows is an educated guess at best.
@Beth Jim that's speculation at best. There are millions of cold distant weird people out in the world. More than likely in most cases they are just very shy introverted people.
explain his ed gein is good @@LegitLaughs1
He sort of just glossed over the slaves in paradise m.o of zodiac which is a massive error in my opinion
The point about narcissism was interesting; it usually stems from insecurity, and in this case manifested as these cowardly murders. I am not sure he hid out of cowardice, maybe more because keeping a secret is a thrill on its own. He'd get to walk around his daily life where people didn't like/respect him or he felt small, and look at everyone and think "I'm the Zodiac and you don't know, I could kill any of you at any time" and feel good about himself in spite of those people
Yeah you put it perfectly.
I think you’re spot on
Maybe society shouldn't have treated him like trash if they valued their life so much. "The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth"
I think he hid because he didn't want to get caught.
@@realzhella6817 do you know that he was treated like trash?
I would love to see a series where psychic empaths meet with crime experts like him and are asked to give a reading on a killer unknown to them. Then see how much matches up between the facts of the killers psych evaluation and history, and what the empath gets
BuzzFeed just swooped this up so fast
A lot of empaths would be discredited. The "experts" usually only get good after decades on a case, long after there's any hope of catching a mastermind. Back in the day, these "experts" had no clue. They truly believed he was gonna do the wild stuff he claimed. Zodiac had them all fooled.
"psychic empaths" Jesus Christ 💀
I'd rather not give 'Psychics' a platform at all. They don't deserve any attention.
@Beth Jim Who stabbed Bryan Hartnell if he was the Zodiac? Sorry, but this might just be one of the dumbest theories I've ever head when it comes to the Zodiac and I have heard plenty.
Took several courses from Dr. Hickey. Truly a one of a kind man. Not only very knowledgeable, but extremely funny too.
Yes he funny, see him in others documentary he was funny
He is a Buzzfeed liberal scumbag/
@@residentpotato6023 lol bye
Truly, very late but where does he tesch if he still does?
@@mikaeljurvanen2731 I had him last semester at California State University of Fresno. He moved out of CA after the semester ended. My favorite professor :(
If it wasn’t for the codes / taunting letters the zodiac would be a nobody, the murders associated to him were nothing special. To me the zodiac was a geek who went bad.
That’s why he did it. He also called the police and reported his own murder. It was a game of messing with the police not the killings. That’s why he stopped killing but kept sending letters until years later
I took Hickey’s criminology course when I was finishing my bachelors degree. The guy is smart. Easily the top guy in his field. He’s funny as hell too lol
Who better to explain the twisted mind of a serial killer than Jigsaw himself
Jigsaw was a puppet, it was really Shawnee making decisions for him and doing the manipulation.
This doctor has become my role model fr. Makes me want to dive into criminal psychology. Pls keep these videos of him coming! Love watching him
No, you don't. Do you really want to come home from work with all of that junk on your mind?
@@randymillhouse791 who r u to judge
@@serenfrl437 I am a judge...
@@randymillhouse791 thats not what i was asking u about but ok
@@randymillhouse791It doesn’t matter, it’s a person’s decision what they want to do. If it’s not for you that’s fine, but your words have no power so why judge?
The ultimate plot twist, the criminal psychologist was the zodiac killer.
He looks like him
Yeah, I thought same too😂
This guy isn't smart enough or sharp enough... This "expert" seems like the usual pompous flatfoot who loves listening to himself talk.
Spooky
...I doubt someone around 10 years old coulda pulled off the Zodiac schtick. That's about how old this fella woulda been back then.
I honestly think the Zodiac stopped killing because he may have got married and or had children. His M.O was killing couples. He obviously had a issue with couples and especially women since none of them survived because he attacked them more violently whereas some of the men did. The Golden State killer stopped after having children too. Zodiac would have less opportunity to kill being a husband and father and it would be more risky because now if he’s arrested he’s ruined his families life as well. That’s my theory anyways
I think he moved and figured out himself and his mo but your theory is equally probable. Or a mixture of both
I also think he made so many mistakes in his crimes and nearly got caught that he bottled it and stopped killing. He only actually managed to avoid capture because of police errors. I wouldnt be surprised if he attempted another crime at some point and the victim escaped or overpowered him and made him too frightened to attempt another killing but that it was just never known to be a zodiac crime because he wouldnt of claimed it. I think i heard the golden state killer had a similar incident in one of his last crimes where a victim managed to overpower him and he had to run from the crime which knocked his confidence to commit more crimes
He never existed - unconnected murders. The letters were hoaxes.
@@zenvagabond how’d he get stines shirt?
@@somethingfromnothing8428 It came from the Cops - one of the cops was a cryptography expert and he was running the letters.
I always wonder what made him stop. I seriously doubt that if he was still alive, there are possible reasons for him to stop killing, but I don't think he could ever stop getting the attention. Even if he "settled down" and stopped killing because of having a family, it's hard to believe he could resist somehow letting the world know he was still around and was still getting away with murder. So, either he died not long after his last murder, or was sent to prison and died there. - I sometimes hope we'll find out who it was, but then again, you know it will likely be very anticlimactic.
I highly doubt anyone will ever know who he truly was its been too long already. People will speculate forever just like D.B. Copper there's 15 experts out there that think it's 15 different people.
Sometimes serial killers really do just stop. It’s a young man’s game and some of them just get tired.
His adoptive father died in 1971 and left some money($10-20,000) then he hijacked the plane as Dan Cooper and got more money. He turned into a business man and that satisfied his need for respect.
He was my father Robert M. Higgins.
Because he wanted to and probably didn't want to get caught.
The Zodiac was probably around 35 in 1969, so you'd figure a birth year of like 1934. He could still be out there...nearing his 90th birthday. These days, that's not so far-fetched. I sort of think he'd leave a clue behind...so, after he dies, everyone would know about the "genius" who was "The Zodiac." That'd be the ultimate ego trip.
I’m really hoping he reveals himself in a will he has right before death. With proof to back him up and everything. The country would go crazy.
@@dowork002 I figure he'd leave behind a piece of Paul Stein's bloody shirt and another cipher in his handwriting. The ultimate thrill for him would be saying, "Hey, I did it and now there's nothing you can do about it." If it's to happen, it will come out within the next ten or so years. All they can really do now is let him live out the rest of his days in the prison infirmary.
Its quite possible he had kids or something and wouldnt want to be remembered by his family as a murderer though so maybe not. I also wouldnt be surprised if he had disposed of physical evidence over the years to help ensure he was never caught
@@somethingfromnothing8428 Good points. With that said, I figure him for a narcissist. He either didn't get married/have children or had them and was a bad parent who could care less. As far as the evidence goes, I think he would write a letter/cipher, store it in an easy to find place/present it to cops or maybe just keep a small piece of Paul Stine's soiled shirt (at this point, it'd just look like a dirty old piece of shirt).
@@the_gilded_age_phoenix8717 maybe. But the golden state killer settled into a family life with kids. Being a serial killer doesnt mean your going to be a bad parent and being a bad parent doesnt make you a serial killer. Its hard to say without knowing more than speculation about who he is or was
Thanks for uploading!
I'm really enjoying the interviews with Dr. Hickey. It's so fascinating and he gives an insightful psychological profile of the serial killers.
Dr. Hickey my sociology professor in college... most interesting class I took in college frfr ❤
youre beatiful
Paradice wasn't a misspelling. It was a cypher within a cypher. He was playing games with the decoders.
Took them too long to work it out, though.
Paradice, pair o dice(Urban Legend) He was giving you a geographical location.
Paradise California. Once spelled Paradice.
Good hunting there. Wild pig, deer, elk.
Sounds like paradise, buddy, but those aren't the most dangerous game.
There are some questions concerning whether or not it was actually successfully decoded. Seems they had to do a ton of twisting and turn and head spinning to arrive at this "message"
You must be the Zodiac Killer!!!
@@Scorp308 I'm more like Will from Hannibal.
Great points, Paradice was also a hunting area in Spokane too
Mr. Jigsaw seems to be very knowledgeable about the subject.
The black and white pictures look like DB Cooper
I saw the thumbnail for this and was like, wtf is Jigsaw analyzing The Zodiac killer for? Takes a wolf to catch a wolf I suppose 😂
Jigsaw never killed anybody in fact he saved people's lives, a hero!
This is another awesome video. Thank you for sharing
His afterlife ideas of having slaves, and the fact he uses the zodiac sign tells that he had a fascination of the Egyptian pharaohs. The letters could look a bit like Egyptian glyphs.
@Beth Jim Stop sending people on a wild goose chase to just look for your comment. Simply put your original BS comment on here, you follow.
@@chiricahuaapache5132 he is a Gimp simp
I always felt like the zodiac was originally trying to "punish" the popular kinds who were making out in their cars...and then the fame got to him
Dr. Hickey was one of my favorite teachers at the University I attended❤
The reason they never caught him was because they didn’t know somebody who wrote down what the zodiac killer would do before he did it and also happened to have the same shoe size and stopped sending letters when he was in jail
Great interview. Would like to hear more from Dr. Hickey on various aspects of criminal behavior and psychology. Very interesting law enforcement had a Unabomber suspect that was so close but wrong.
The unabomber was turned in by his brother
Sneaking up to unarmed people and shooting them point blank, doesn’t exactly make you a criminal genius. He sounds like a coward, maybe jealous thAt he had no love and then the media made him an infamous celebrity, which he got off on. My analysis, a huge lonely nerd that was good at puzzles because he had no friends.
They still cant crack his codes thou
@@AY-qy4jn One was solved not too long ago. I think it was last year.
@@popeye5274 yeah only took them 50 years
“My analysis”
Wow. Thank god you’re here to give such an in depth, original analysis.
@07foxmulder true though, he was a coward and probably very lonely
I feel like I watched this whole video but am really no closer to understanding the zodiac better
I mean who is better than the jigsaw himself to dive deep inside the zodiac killer mind
PLS DO THE CASE ALICIA NAVARRO! 🙏🏼she’s been missing for 3 years! since 2019
Yes more like these please
Who misses the iconic duo
Didn’t know Jigsaw became a doctor. You learn something new everyday.
Dr Hickey: I was wondering about this and would appreciate your opinion. I have had some experience with DID, and I believe Z to be one. There are several clues, like Z understood the meaning of thunderclap headache , and especially MIP is the letters that are questionable. I believe 2 of these are Concerned Citizen and Patricia Hauptz. The tone of these is like they are trying to protect him, also "concerned student, when he was bullied. My friend was dating one, and suddenly got letters (anonymous but they were him) he kind of acted like he was another person, and he was looking in a window at her and himself and tells her how disgusted he is with her. But that is not how he acted towards her. I believe DID to only remember a portion of what they see or not remember it at all like my friends ex. In concerned citizen letter, there are a few things that indicated he is a multiple. "she went to slaughter like a lamb" - thats what his alter remembers, not him, himself. And the other is "red dress" she wore red pants. So he did not remember this huge event correctly. I thought maybe that is why. If so, it kind of proves this was the Zodiac writing and puts him at the site, because how did he know these details? I did take abnormal psyc classes so I am not totally wet behind the ears, but just a little bit and your professional opinion is what I am looking for. Every "puzzle" has been broken and now there is even more indication of this. The general public does not know what is in these puzzles. I have counted a minimum of 4. My POI is different than yours, mine was 17, yes he died, he died at 76, Funny, he mentions coward towards the end of Z340. Mine had been cleared twice for wrong reasons, and also that he lived across from Cheri, also walking distance from DL , some of his classmates were killed by Z. He is unknown but not to law enforcement. Thank you . PS all those "ciphers" were a middle eastern language untranslated and he spent time in Azerbaijani. Oh, and a couple vics were from the Black Temple as was he. As a matter of fact, some of suspects others have, they were also members.
On the thumbnail for this video, the psych doc
Looks VERY similar to the Zodiac 😂 I’m sure who ever made that thumbnail had a good laugh about that
Im betting he was a cop in california like most serial killers of the time
Lmao
Pigs dnt need to hide! They are licensed to kill.
The police could have caught him when they saw him going towards the park after he killed Mr. Stein.
This is an interesting mystery that will probably never be solved.
@Beth Jim Sounds like the plot of Scream
Truly, TRULY a mystery for me! TRULY! (I have lived w/this for some 50-odd years.) Many yrs ago, I lived in Winters, California in a small trailer house w/crank-out, jalousie windows. We KNEW Zodiac was having a heyday in San Francisco & we were very near his killing field. He had threatened to shoot children coming off school busses & the police were following the busses to & from the schools in Winters. One night, my husband was late coming home, just after dark & I had a knock on my back door, 'way more secluded by hedges & trees than my front door. I flipped on the outside light & a decent looking man stood there with a brown paper-wrapped piece of glass...exactly the size of the ONLY broken jalousie slat in my back door. He wore "workman" type of overalls...dark blue. Crew cut & glasses. I asked who sent him w/the glass, since I hadn't ordered it & felt certain my husband would have told me if HE had done so. He was very nice but very insistent that HE would install the glass if I would just unlock the door...and I almost DID! Something just told me, "Don't DO it!" And I am not, never HAVE been, a "scaredy cat." (But he was so insistent! I THINK that was what scared me.) I finally told him to just set it out by the back steps. He finally did & he left....I think, on foot. Dunno...
Husband got home & I asked him. He knew nothing about the window slat. Next day we asked our very few neighbors & again, nobody knew anything. Went to Montgomery Ward, the only store like that in town back then & they acknowledged the glass was purchased there...in cash. No record & of course, no cameras back then. The glass slat fit my window perfectly & to this day, I still don't know where it came from or who paid for it. (It was $2+change back then.) But a week or so later, I saw the picture of the supposed Zodiac in the papers & on TV & I swear, it looked like the same guy! I will swear it to my death! Did I dodge a bullet? Don't know...but I will ALWAYS believe I did. Just sayin'....
@@suzannewarren4376 Was that a solar panel glass? If so, you saw him. He fits the description, and he would have a crew cut and glasses, and the coveralls. I do think you did. Let me ask this, did you see a pocket protector, he wore one till the day he died. He looks super straight.
Why did he lowkey looks like the sketch of the zodiac killer tho💀
Dr. Eric Hickey looks like the sketch, put glasses on him
Dr Hickey looks a lot like the drawing of the Zodiac but aged huh? Wow
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They caught the Golden State Killer after many years, hopefully they catch him
They cant unless they are ready to dig him up.
Will Dr.Hickey analyse Ted Bundy? His videos are great and he explains everything so vividly and to the point.
I attended two of the same schools as Cecilia Sheperd many years after these murders. There were copycat murders committed by students there that were too young to have been born then. Two of my family members. Some of those same student body members were among those burned up at Waco. Lab archives at their hospital, Paradise in San Diego, indicate my Dr and Rn parents conceived me there. He was the hospital's chief of staff, and she was his wife, chief of nursing staff. When they told me this, I was amused. Then I had childhood friends suffer in the Paradise fire. Like many, I kept thinking that the killer came from within that church. They seemed to want to cover up the murders of my family members, even though they were solved. Think of how deadly they might want to make it to silence one of their own? "Life is perfect." The Million Dollar Hotel. Paradise, for some, is a burning horror for others. For some, it is perfect.
It’s very interesting to point out that most serial killers are losers who try to convince themselves that they’re not losers through committing violence.
It's strange how there's no reference to the victimology and choice of the Zodiac's victims. Most were young couples who were out at popular dating locations and at local hookup spots. You could just imagine the huge cultural shift in San Francisco in the late sixties and how young people were viewed with suspicion from certain sectors of American society because of the anti war movement, pot smoking and the prevalence promiscuity and pre marital sex. Most likely the guy was a military person or police officer who had a hatred for young people, especially young couples. High probability he was some kind of airman who was a codebreaker.
Similar to the golden State killer. That's why both went undetected up until 2018. The reason the zodiac was never caught was because he didn't leave DNA. GSK, on the other hand, loved to stick his lil pecker in places it didn't belong. Which ultimately led him to getting caught. But GSK was way more ruthless than Zodiac ever was.
@@rml1919 well we know he wore wingwalkers and travis air force base was just down the road. I guess you could deduce that it's likely he worked there.
@@rml1919 gsk being sexually motivated is why he was more brutal. zodiac was way smarter, because he knew that leaving no dna is of utmost importance, if you don't want to get caught.
@@zzz7zzz9 well yeah he wasn't sexually motivated in a perverted way but rather had contempt and distain for his victims... like they were pests or something.
It was definitely Arthur Leigh Allen. Everything lined up, and police were about to arrest him when he died.
I know who he was. I worked at it, and found my own suspect. Very impressed by these profiles. Because they are spot on.
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Would be real interested in hearing about how aging effects serial killers. If the crimes are sexually motivated does loss of sex drive also mean less of a compulsion to kill? Both BTK and the Golden State Killer just stopped killing at some point. Another interesting question is could TRT or steroids drive someone to kill. Say they had the urge to kill but we're able to suppress it. Then they do hormones that spike sexual desire and are unable to suppress their urge to kill any longer.
Asking for a friend.
With age comes lack of fitness, might be afraid they couldn't do it anymore because of the lack of physicality. Or maybe they get old, and lose interest. Young, and wild......
Some just age out of it if they can make it that far but the BTK still planed on killing
@@bethjim533 Wasn't he one of the victims???
u seem suspect bud
I have his pic right before he died, but I dont know anything about his testorone to tell you anything more and I hope I never find out. Thats interesting.
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Jigsaw talking about the zodiac !!!!
Very interesting
I wish this Psychologist would try to get into the mind of Dellen Millard. He’s a young Canadian serial killer who was heir to an aviation company and murdered his own father among multiple others. He’s interesting because he was “one of the most eligible bachelors in Canada”, used a mobile crematorium to dispose of his victims, and had a Robin sidekick who murdered alongside with him. That would be quite a feat to get into Dellen’s mind!
Dr. Eric W. Hickey looks like Tobin Bell(Jigsaw) actually got cancer.
Wow that drawing looks like Arthur Lee Allen posed for it
YOU CAN TELL THIS PSYCHOLOGIST STILL IS FEELING THE PAIN BECAUSE THE ZODIAC KILLER BEAT HIM AND OTHERS.
Why all caps? Super annoying. You're right though. It gives me a sense of glee😂
I think the Dr is being suave here...he speaks of the killer's incompetency possibly to bruise his ego and lure him out of hiding. (If he's still alive that is)
The film was phenomenal- if you got time watch it
This is the zodiac speaking documentary is class
Not the criminal psychologist looking like the Zodiac Killer sketch ☠
Zodiac Killer Sounds Like A Movie Character
"Not a very effective killer?" Don't egg him on.
@Beth Jim U R delusional. Seek help.
Why does he look like the witness sketch 🙈😭🤣
reminds me of the mentalist, a tv series, but he was caught in the show.
Which season?
Funny is that Dr. Hickey looks similar to the phantom image of Zodiac…
I wonder if ZK had suffered a narcissistic injury earlier in life that showed him inferior to police in general or to SFPD specifically. We need Sam Vacknin on this case.
@Beth Jim Give it a rest. You sound obsessed.
What if he applied and washed out in the academy or the background check? He'd have a massive chip on his shoulder trying to live that down.
Zodiac was superior to the Keystone Kops. Zodiac=??? SFPD=0
Like not so much coward, but demonic in nature..
I always thought he was a returning Korean War or Vietnam War veteran; the codes sound like something they were taught in the field, probably mixed up on LSD...
The DB Cooper cypher name is Ralph Mangan who's the Zodiac Rick under the Greek Alphabet 8 one of the Zodiac ciphers says My name is Mangan.
They should look into people who killed themself around that time. Sounds like he was about it.
More more more!!!!
Alot of experts on this case believe that the key to solving it is Darlene ferrin. She was terrified the last months of her life of a man she refused to name and she was also heavily involved in the occult
I had a theory that zodiac killer was a young adult who was related with the victim. Until which victim idk.
It's hard to make psychological profile without talking to person directly, but this wasn't that bad....
The latest suspect is a fellow named Sullivan. Strange he was not mentioned here....
Is it me or does anyone else think that Dr.Hickey looks a LOT like Tobin Bell (Jigsaw).
I thought the thumbnail was pointing out the doc as the Zodiac killer
Bruh who thought this was jigsaw, I can’t be the only one. Even sounds like him
“The FBI’s investigation into the Zodiac Killer remains open and unsolved” - the FBI circa 2022
@@swankybutters8371 They do delete my work depending on mood.
I feel like he was around during the investigation as well..
Jigsaw is a master of psychology
worlds most mysterious serial killer for sure
Jack the ripper?
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I agree that Jack the Ripper is more mysterious. There has never been a good suspect and the case will likely never be solved. It’s too long ago and there isn’t much evidence.
With the zodiac however it is entirely possible that the correct name has already been put forward, and there is still a chance for the case to be solved. I think that Paul Doerr is a very good suspect. Most people haven’t heard about him yet, but author Jarett Kobek recently discovered him.
“Determining if Doerr was, in fact, responsible for the crimes could be as simple as obtaining his fingerprints through military records and comparing them with those of the Zodiac, Haynes said.” (From an article by The Guardian)
@@josephh374 nowhere near the level of torment the zodiac caused
He lies and many believe, those arent ciphers, they are arabic translations, a branch of each. He couldnt cipher.
Can you do Boy in box mystery solved
I thank my parents because they raised me well.
There was one guy claiming that his dad was a zodiac killer, but because he never knew who his real dad was, he was on the news about it
Cheri jo Bates was also stabbed.
Dude kinda smiled when he said what he works on. 😂
could you do Richard Ramirez?
Dr Hickey- good talk. I disagree that ALA ( yes he was the zodiac killer, there's no doubt here) was smarter than law enforcement. He wasn't smarter, it's just that the law has its hands bound. Some jurors are incapable of logic and reasoning as well. They would need to be eyewitnesses to a murder to find guilt. The reality is: 10,12,15 pieces of circumstantial evidence, rounds nicely towards guilt.
I think its just weird how he kept mentioning his after life it made me think that maybe his crimes stopped because he died maybe he had an illness that killed him and that way he believed he was collecting "slaves". But idk it could be something else entirely. His ciphers are fascinating but it was always solved by citizens so that tells us he wasnt that much of a genius. His Z13 cipher probably doesn't even have his name but the fact that it still hasn't been cracked makes it even more interesting to me. Overall this case will always make me think and wonder who he could've been.
Those arent ciphers and Z340 was not solved, they only worked on 4 lines, it will be solved next time you see it. It is the language Tamil, why dont you send all ciphers to a language translation company? And 4 errors in 4 lines.
Anyone else here thought that the guy from the thumbnail of this video is the Tobin Bell aka Jigsaw from the Saw franchise? xD
What if Eric Hickey is the zodiac killer?
That would make me happy.
He looks like DB Cooper
Getting told about an infamous serial killer by a famous serial killer, good video Mr John Kramer 🤫😉
I love that David Fincher movie.
Did anyone notice his face on the thumbnail looks strikingly familiar to the Zodiac Killer police sketch? This guy seems to know a bit too much about the Zodiacs mindset. How old was this yellow when Zodiac wad active?