The person no 3rd ..is absolutely & 100% correct what he said...and the only 2 words that pulled bangali's level of existance up to the bottom of every thing are..." cholchena .. cholbena..."...
Swabirodh thakatai savabik..bhalo mondo mishiyei amra bangali..uni toh sudhu bangali jati'r core base ta r nei setai bolte cheyechen..r absolute bole kichui hyna...sob e relative..
মাফ করবেন দাদা আলোচনা বেশ ভালো তবে পাড়ায় যে কটা ভদ্রলোক চিনি তারা বর্তমানে আপনাদের অধিকাংশের বিরোধী বিজেপিকে সমর্থন করছে তাই আমার মনেহয় ওদেরকে একবার সুযোগ দেওয়া যেতে পারে
হিন্দি আর ইংলিশ না থাকলে আমাদের শুধুই আনন্দবাজারের অর্ধেক সত্যি/পুরো মিথ্যা প্রচার গুলোই খবরের নামে গিলতে হত। বাংলা আমাদের প্রাণের ভাষা, কিন্তু ইংলিশ/হিন্দির ও প্রয়োজন আছে।
BangaliTa sanrakhaner dwara chakri pabe. Kintu sei chakrigulo sristi korbe ke Bangalira? Aar tarao ki Sangrakhkhaner dwarai Chakri sristi korbe? Mane Sangrakhkhaner Dwarai business korbe kore abangali arthat Maroari, Gujrati, Punjabi Der songe Sangrakhkhaner sahajey compete kore business barabe aar sob Bangalike chakrir jogan debe? Ei sob ki bhabe handle kora hobe setar opor ar ekta debate hole bhalo hobe. Chandril hoito bahlo kore bolte parbe. Bises kore Sangrakhkhaner modhyo dye kikore pratijigitai danrate hoi.
Everything set on the stream of time inevitably transforms on and on and so human life(actually culture) can't defend itself to be in a certain time. In this fickle process we may mind our roots to defend as far as we can. Let me partly go with Mr. Chandril.
Bangladeshi people speak Bengali but those are not real Bengali. Most of their Bengali sentences are filled with arabic words. Their accents are also horrible.
@@shivbhatt5536 It is not an accent. What they speak in Bangladesh are dialects of the Bengali language. You need to learn the difference. What if I were to say that the dialects of West Bengal sound funny and affected?
@@shivbhatt5536 You probably don't realise this, but the Bengali language which is spoken in west bengal (and Bangladesh) is full of Persian words, which have been assimilated in the language over 8 centuries. Please ask yourself whether Persian is Bengali It is also difficult to substantiate the claim that the form of Bengali using only Sanskrit তৎসম words is the one and only true form of the language and the one using Arabic words is not. The Bengali language grew out of its Sanskrit origins and became independent, with its own identity, literature and culture a long time ago. There are bound to be differences between how 200 million people spread over 91,000 sq miles speak a language. It is not a good practice to spread religious discord by making a distinction between the sanskritised Bengali and the arabicised. Neither is correct or wrong. It is just about differences in how people speak
The difference between Bengalis and Tigers is that Tigers didn't self-defeat / self-destroy themselves, but Bengalis especially the so called H8ndu-Bengali-Bhadroloks self-defeated / self-destroyed themselves and have now became non-entities. They are fast depleting and their habitat and area of influence is reducing by leaps and bounds. Most importantly, their numbers are far below sustainable value and are speeding towards extinction.
@@Moharani21 দেবদাস মহাশয় তাহলে সে কথা তো গোটা পারসিক জাতি সম্পর্কেও প্রযোজ্য । কিন্তু এককালে এই জাতি অর্ধেক এশিয়ার অধীশ্বর ছিল। চিরদিন কাহারও সমান নাহি যায়। আজকে যে রাজাধিরাজ কাল সে ভিক্ষা চায়।।
The Govt recruitment process has been gamed to favor Hindi speaking people and to put non Hindi speaking people at a disadvantage. Even if some non Hindi speaking candidate manages to somehow pass the written, in the interview the interviewers by and large happen to be Hindi speaking, who favor Hindi speaking candidates. This is how so many Hindi speaking people succeed in Govt jobs whereas the non Hindi population struggle to secure even lowly sarkari clerical jobs. Now, coming back to Bengal’s decline. Congress, after India’s independence, did everything to strip Bengal of its industries and even stopped investments in Bengal, particularly after the communists came to power. The communists are Luddites and they destroyed what little was left in Bengal. But, they came to power due to decisions and conditions created by the Bengali hating Nehru and his Congress party. The Bengali refugees from East Pakistan were treated far worse than their Punjabi and Sindhi counterparts from the west. Due to 2nd class treatment from Congress, the huge Bengali refugee population gravitated towards the leftists who pretended to represent their cause.With communists in power in West Bengal and a hostile anti Bengali Govt in center, Bengal witnessed all kinds of barrier to development, both from within and from outside. What can reverse this downward spiral, is autonomy from New Delhi, which siphons off far more than what it gives back to Bengal right since 1947, and a Bengali bhoomiputra party. TMC is a step in that direction. It needs to be more Bengal centric and stop hankering for power in New Delhi.
Kono tai valo laglo na. Atel laglo. Amar mone hoi .1- sohore bangali sotik somay bea kore na. 2- bea korloe ontoto 2 te suntan nair dorkar. 3- sidhu matro chakrir pechone na gia babsa korar dorkar 4- bari ba jome khub proajon na hole bacher dorkar nia.sohor anchol hole promoting doear dorkar nie. 5- school ba bari porasuno bangala & english dottie korte hobe. 6- hindu bangali , Muslim bangali, boudhho bangali alada dakle cholbe na. 7- kono challenger aloconate sikhito babsahi bangali rakte hobe. 8- sudhu matro chakrir jonno industries industri na kore. Nejarai choto karkhana kor. 9- anno rajar loker opre vorsa koris na. 10- bangali ma babara sotan der bashi atel banasna. 11- poresase bole porasuno kor, sothik somoye bea kore anntoto 2 e sotaner ma baba ho ,valo chakre pale valo noito babsa aro valo, paer toler jome nonbangali der chares na.
@@protappramanick6840 যদি কিছু মনে না করেন তাহলে এই প্রশ্নটা আমার মনেও এসেছিল। রবি ঠাকুর কোন গ্রামে মানুষ হয়েছেন এটা জানতে চাওয়ার মধ্যে আমি কোনো অপসংস্কৃতি দেখছি না।
I had an oppurtunity to attend conference at Delhi ,I was taking with my collegue of Kolkata, suddenly I hard a very dirty words all Balack crows of Bengali flock together and they are segregated themselves to talk each other.I remember the famous writer Sayed Muztaba Ali writing" he was eating meat with bone with roti in UK,opposite table one couple said "Look at that man,Bangali what they give to their Dogs,because he is taking Bone marrow"Sayed Muztaba Ali was passing by to that table he saw they are eating cake"He said we gave cake to the Dogs.Now these delhi non Benali saying bad words towards us,,I said we can fly and also bite your Lips of your Language Hindi.You are trying to impose Hindi in wwest Bengal,it will be decided by them,because as a Bangladeshi I can not say anything.Look how Bad mentality of these people..
চন্দ্রিল ও শমীক খুব ভালো বলেছেন। শুনতে আলাদা লাগলেও, দুজনের বক্তব্যের মধ্যে অনেক সঠিক তথ্য আছে।
Samik da say to right bravo
সুবোধ দা আপনি গরু খেয়ে এসেছেন তো,,
তবেই আপনি প্রকৃত বাঙালি আপনার মুখে এইসব লেকচার শুনতে হচ্ছে আমাদের,,,
এনাদের কাছে বাঙালি মানে কলকাতা ও সংলগ্ন এলাকায় বসবাসকারী বামুন ও কায়স্থ।কিন্তু গ্রামের বাঙালিরা নিজেদের সংস্কৃতি ঠিক রক্ষা করে চলেছে।
Ekdam thik
অনেকাংশেই ঠিক কেননা বেনোজলে পড়ে গ্রামের বাঙালীরাও ছেলেমেয়েদের ইংরেজী মাধ্যমে ভর্তি করান।
চন্দ্রিল দা যেটা বলেছেন চিরকালীন অবস্থান। শমীক দা যেটা বললেন সেটা বাস্তব। দু'জন অসাধারণ বলেছেন।
The person no 3rd ..is absolutely & 100% correct what he said...and the only 2 words that pulled bangali's level of existance up to the bottom of every thing are..." cholchena .. cholbena..."...
Chandril babu aj apnar boktobbe onek swabirodh lokkha korlam.
Swabirodh thakatai savabik..bhalo mondo mishiyei amra bangali..uni toh sudhu bangali jati'r core base ta r nei setai bolte cheyechen..r absolute bole kichui hyna...sob e relative..
@@electricaltopicscom
Absotule bole sotti e kichu hoi na...tahole"core" base r kotha uthe kono? Aeta e to amar point.Pure culture bole kichu hoi ki? Akta sansktiti onno sanskrit r sathe onoboroto mishte thake abong sansktiti aagiye chole. Aetai sobbhotar dhoron...sobete aeto "gelo gelo " rob tolar kono mane hoi na.aj theke 50 bochhor aager loker o ak e kotha chilo "banglai sanskriti nosto hoye jachhe"...manus kono somoy e nijer bortoman niye sontusto noi.
Nailed it Chandril Da ।
মাফ করবেন দাদা আলোচনা বেশ ভালো তবে পাড়ায় যে কটা ভদ্রলোক চিনি তারা বর্তমানে আপনাদের অধিকাংশের বিরোধী বিজেপিকে সমর্থন করছে তাই আমার মনেহয় ওদেরকে একবার সুযোগ দেওয়া যেতে পারে
হিন্দি আর ইংলিশ না থাকলে আমাদের শুধুই আনন্দবাজারের অর্ধেক সত্যি/পুরো মিথ্যা প্রচার গুলোই খবরের নামে গিলতে হত। বাংলা আমাদের প্রাণের ভাষা, কিন্তু ইংলিশ/হিন্দির ও প্রয়োজন আছে।
English এর প্রয়োজন তোহ্ আছে, কিন্তু হিন্দিটা কি বাল্ ছিঁড়তে?!
Amar r o chai erokom debates please. Tabole onek kichu jante parbo .
Fantastic.
সংরক্ষণ চাই..... চাকরিতে....... অন্তত পশ্চিম বঙ্গে........ তাছাড়া আনকরণ প্রিয়তা ত্যাগ করা সর্বাপেক্ষা জরুরি.......
BangaliTa sanrakhaner dwara chakri pabe. Kintu sei chakrigulo sristi korbe ke Bangalira? Aar tarao ki Sangrakhkhaner dwarai Chakri sristi korbe? Mane Sangrakhkhaner Dwarai business korbe kore abangali arthat Maroari, Gujrati, Punjabi Der songe Sangrakhkhaner sahajey compete kore business barabe aar sob Bangalike chakrir jogan debe? Ei sob ki bhabe handle kora hobe setar opor ar ekta debate hole bhalo hobe. Chandril hoito bahlo kore bolte parbe. Bises kore Sangrakhkhaner modhyo dye kikore pratijigitai danrate hoi.
চন্দ্রিল দেখলেই ভিডিও দেখতে ইচ্ছে করে, নাহলে নয়.
চন্দ্রিল দা প্রণাম তোমায়ে😀
Good
অরূনাভ বাবু perfectly said. 🔥 🔥 🔥.
Everything set on the stream of time inevitably transforms on and on and so human life(actually culture) can't defend itself to be in a certain time.
In this fickle process we may mind our roots to defend as far as we can.
Let me partly go with Mr. Chandril.
Dramatisation may not be always praiseworthy.
"The tiger will see you a hundred times
before you see him once".
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Thanks dada
Chandril Da you are a great person
Osm speach
May Allah give hidayah to Chandril
May baba Taraknath give Haandiya to you.
কষ্টকরে একটু বাংলাতে লিখুন, মানে পড়তে একটু সুবিধা হয় আরকি!
Full video please
Chandril day Tumi sera boss
Chandril da best
ekhono shomoy roeche,Bangla dharon korun,gorbo bodh korun ..:)
Bangali Hindu ra ki6udin bade dodo pakhi hoye Jabe.. r Muslim bangali seto aj r bangali nei....
Bangali r kono dormo nei
it is happen only in India , not in Bangladesh. thank you very much from Dhaka, Bangladesh.
Age English ta lekha sekh.tarpor bokis.
Bangladeshi people speak Bengali but those are not real Bengali. Most of their Bengali sentences are filled with arabic words. Their accents are also horrible.
@@shivbhatt5536
It is not an accent. What they speak in Bangladesh are dialects of the Bengali language. You need to learn the difference.
What if I were to say that the dialects of West Bengal sound funny and affected?
@@kaushiksaha8416 sir, what about the Arabic words filled in each sentence while speaking Bangladeshi ? Arabic words are not Bengali.
@@shivbhatt5536
You probably don't realise this, but the Bengali language which is spoken in west bengal (and Bangladesh) is full of Persian words, which have been assimilated in the language over 8 centuries. Please ask yourself whether Persian is Bengali
It is also difficult to substantiate the claim that the form of Bengali using only Sanskrit তৎসম words is the one and only true form of the language and the one using Arabic words is not. The Bengali language grew out of its Sanskrit origins and became independent, with its own identity, literature and culture a long time ago. There are bound to be differences between how 200 million people spread over 91,000 sq miles speak a language.
It is not a good practice to spread religious discord by making a distinction between the sanskritised Bengali and the arabicised. Neither is correct or wrong. It is just about differences in how people speak
Bangalir sampurna biborton ghote geche ar er jonno amader baba maera dai.
Chandril at 0:50.
Bengali culture sudhu ekhon west Bengal e a6e Bangladeshe arbi culture Bengali culture ke kheye fele6e
Right
annora amader niye negetive bhabhnar karan amader bhobishot pori kalpana anek besi not a financial bhabhna sudhu samajhik ba desher
The difference between Bengalis and Tigers is that Tigers didn't self-defeat / self-destroy themselves, but Bengalis especially the so called H8ndu-Bengali-Bhadroloks self-defeated / self-destroyed themselves and have now became non-entities. They are fast depleting and their habitat and area of influence is reducing by leaps and bounds.
Most importantly, their numbers are far below sustainable value and are speeding towards extinction.
vlo
avutpurbo
ami o ekjon bangali , ami bolchi ei anno der negetive ness ki amader shakti noy ?
Bangali,,,,once influenced by British,,,and now by Arabic Bangladeshi....
IT IS A TRAGEDY BUT A BITTER TRUTH. BENGALIS HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED TO THE EXTENT OF BEING IN SELF-DESTRUCTIVE MODE.
মূলতঃ বাঙালী আমজনতা ক্রীতদাস জাতি। সে প্রভূহীন চলতে শেখেনি।
তাই তারা গোটা এক দেশ মিলে কখনো মুসলমান বনে যায়?
@@Moharani21
দেবদাস মহাশয়
তাহলে সে কথা তো গোটা পারসিক জাতি সম্পর্কেও প্রযোজ্য । কিন্তু এককালে এই জাতি অর্ধেক এশিয়ার অধীশ্বর ছিল।
চিরদিন কাহারও সমান নাহি যায়।
আজকে যে রাজাধিরাজ কাল সে ভিক্ষা চায়।।
R khali angti poreche. Duto hat e dekhun 4/5 kore angti😁😁😁
DC SP der namgulo dekhun Bangali khujte hobe
The Govt recruitment process has been gamed to favor Hindi speaking people and to put non Hindi speaking people at a disadvantage. Even if some non Hindi speaking candidate manages to somehow pass the written, in the interview the interviewers by and large happen to be Hindi speaking, who favor Hindi speaking candidates. This is how so many Hindi speaking people succeed in Govt jobs whereas the non Hindi population struggle to secure even lowly sarkari clerical jobs.
Now, coming back to Bengal’s decline. Congress, after India’s independence, did everything to strip Bengal of its industries and even stopped investments in Bengal, particularly after the communists came to power. The communists are Luddites and they destroyed what little was left in Bengal. But, they came to power due to decisions and conditions created by the Bengali hating Nehru and his Congress party. The Bengali refugees from East Pakistan were treated far worse than their Punjabi and Sindhi counterparts from the west. Due to 2nd class treatment from Congress, the huge Bengali refugee population gravitated towards the leftists who pretended to represent their cause.With communists in power in West Bengal and a hostile anti Bengali Govt in center, Bengal witnessed all kinds of barrier to development, both from within and from outside.
What can reverse this downward spiral, is autonomy from New Delhi, which siphons off far more than what it gives back to Bengal right since 1947, and a Bengali bhoomiputra party. TMC is a step in that direction. It needs to be more Bengal centric and stop hankering for power in New Delhi.
Chandril is great
Ami tritiyo bokta r sange ek mot
Bangali ses karon amra United na
34 years dhore ai natok chaliache..akhn abr suro hlo 😅
Kono tai valo laglo na. Atel laglo. Amar mone hoi .1- sohore bangali sotik somay bea kore na.
2- bea korloe ontoto 2 te suntan nair dorkar.
3- sidhu matro chakrir pechone na gia babsa korar dorkar
4- bari ba jome khub proajon na hole bacher dorkar nia.sohor anchol hole promoting doear dorkar nie.
5- school ba bari porasuno bangala & english dottie
korte hobe.
6- hindu bangali , Muslim bangali, boudhho
bangali alada dakle cholbe na.
7- kono challenger aloconate sikhito babsahi bangali rakte hobe.
8- sudhu matro chakrir jonno industries industri na kore. Nejarai choto karkhana kor.
9- anno rajar loker opre vorsa koris na.
10- bangali ma babara sotan der bashi atel banasna.
11- poresase bole porasuno kor, sothik somoye bea kore anntoto 2 e sotaner ma baba ho ,valo chakre pale valo noito babsa aro valo, paer toler jome nonbangali der chares na.
rabindranath kober thake grame chele ?
Ekjaner baktybeyer modhye tuchcha bhul bhranti dharar sasta sanskriti theke berye asun. Ekhon anek bara sankater din. Manik Bandypadhyay er mote krimi kit ki na khujlei noi?
@@protappramanick6840 যদি কিছু মনে না করেন তাহলে এই প্রশ্নটা আমার মনেও এসেছিল। রবি ঠাকুর কোন গ্রামে মানুষ হয়েছেন এটা জানতে চাওয়ার মধ্যে আমি কোনো অপসংস্কৃতি দেখছি না।
I had an oppurtunity to attend conference at Delhi ,I was taking with my collegue of Kolkata, suddenly I hard a very dirty words all Balack crows of Bengali flock together and they are segregated themselves to talk each other.I remember the famous writer Sayed Muztaba Ali writing" he was eating meat with bone with roti in UK,opposite table one couple said "Look at that man,Bangali what they give to their Dogs,because he is taking Bone marrow"Sayed Muztaba Ali was passing by to that table he saw they are eating cake"He said we gave cake to the Dogs.Now these delhi non Benali saying bad words towards us,,I said we can fly and also bite your Lips of your Language Hindi.You are trying to impose Hindi in wwest Bengal,it will be decided by them,because as a Bangladeshi I can not say anything.Look how Bad mentality of these people..
এই অবোদ টাকে ডাকে কে?
এত বানান ভুল !!!