The way Bob used Shamsi's minor interjection to request to move to a different spot as a pretext to constantly interrupt in a diversionary way and interject with his counterarguments over and over again is clear disingenuity.
Muslims almost never answer the questions or give proof for threir statments. And then they send Shamsi to interupt in order to change the topic because they are losing every time. Didn't see 1 debate that a muslim won against Bob.
@@pepesansorts5046 so what? Our beloved Prophet(peace and blessings be upon him) is a human being. He and his companion" Bishr ibn Al Baraa" ate the poisoned food. Bishr died from the poison and the Prophet lived for 3 years after he get poisoned. How is that funny for you?? When a human being a prophet and servant of God get poisoned and you believe that your god was humiliated and killed by the je...ws?
Bob keeps coming back cause he knows Islam lives rent free in his head. These Christian Missionaries need to be realistic, how many become Christians in the park compared to those who become Muslim? We all know the answer
Now ask that same question today. Muslims have very much lost the park thanks to the example set by Bob who has inspired so many youth to now preach and challenge there. God bless Bob always 🙏🏼✝️
Bob, your life is full of humiliation because you hate the teachings of Islam & Muslims, then you deserve to be humiliated by Allah swt, Prophet Muhammad SAW & Muslims. A very big humiliation because there is no greater humiliation than that in this world and in the hereafter.
@@herbalistathari And you need to learn respect, because you haven't learned it from the Qur'an. The Qur'an even tells you to humiliate people in certain scenarios.
@@Dr-EV Of course, refuting falsehood and replacing it with the truth is part of Islam. Your corrupted bible tells you that killing little innocent babies who were getting breastfed is justice in 1 Samuel 15:3. Give me one verse ordering the killing of little innocent babies ? U agree with 1 Samuel 15:3?
@@herbalistathari Lol. You assume I'm Christian. And no I do not condone killing of anyone. Oh.... Hang on a second, didn't Allah say to believe the Bible or something similar? And isn't Allah the same God of the Bible? Saḥīḥ Muslim 1767. Your prophet wanted to get rid of ALL Jews and Christians from Arabian peninsula. How do you think he intended on going about doing that? Bribery with chocolates and flowers, or with threats?
@@Dr-EV show me ONE person leaving Islam because of bob ? I’ll give you at least 10 conversations because of (god) shamsi, and this is without his private conversation etc. Go ahead mister tidal wave surfer of ignorance hahahaha
@@herbalistathari You are obsessed with Samuel 15:3. Give it a rest. I'm not Christian and NO, I do NOT condone the killings in 15:3. As for apostates........ Do you know what happens to those that leave Islam.... Even in a democratic country like the US, UK, Australia or within Europe....... So do you really think it is something that apostates wish to expose them selves with. Leaving Islam is like trying to leave the Mafia, if you let other people know about it, you will get treated as such, so apostates normally keep that to themselves. There are numerous videos from well known Muslim CZcamsrs warning of large amounts of apostates and youths leaving the religion. A recent one describing Afghan refugees who recently left the country dropping it as if it been in their To-do list until safe enough to carry out
@@Dr-EV Most people here are Christian’s so this assumption wasn’t far fetched. I removed the section where I requested the verse because your not Christian. I’ve responded to your first question. Thanks. You can’t bring up multiple subject and expect me to answer anything u want and whenever u need. If I provide you with the answers again, will you become Muslim ?
@@herbalistathari If that's how easy it is for people to call themselves a Muslim, no wonder you think so many are converting to Islam. And if they decide to leave Islam 2 weeks later, other Muslims will only say that there weren't a real Muslim anyway! Also, how often are people persuaded into Islam with only the 'glorious' verses, and not the verses and Hadiths about Mohammed's sexual obsession, or the missoginistic principals, or the targeted BLANKET treatment of Jews and Christians on the Arabian peninsula. Are they aware of the slave trading that still goes on in the name of Islam?
Bob's deceitful tactics: 1) Regurgitate many points and doubts at one time, so the opponent has no chance to tackle each and every one in detail. 2) Don't provide any evidence for the claims being made. 3) Twist and distort information to suit one's own agenda. 4) Keep interrupting the opponent deliberately causing him to lose track or confuse him. 5) Limit the opponent's time to speak so that he can't clarify the doubts in detail, and to add more doubts on top of that once your turn comes. 6) Disregard the Bible, especially the OT when one sees fit. 7) Avoid answering any of the opponent's objections to your inconsistences and double standards. 8) When attacking Islam, become a liberal, but don't dare say anything bad about the "chosen people" who are your masters, even though almost entirely of what you object to about Islam is also present in the "chosen people". 9) Throw out anachronisms left, right and centre. An anachronism is defined as a person, thing, or idea that exists out of its time in history, especially one that happened or existed later than the period being shown, discussed, etc, like Bob was doing, conflating transatlantic slavery with prisoners of war in Islam. 10) Declare victory when your opponent walks away due to your constant barking and heckling.
@@user-uc4ot3jv5g you mean like Paul who made your religion from monotheistic to a pagan Greek methodology like man made fabrication ? U Agree with 1 Samuel 15:3 ? Slaughtering little babies alive ?
I bet as long as Bob Xtian doing that only tactic to attack prophet Muhammad pbuh, many non muslims watching this video will incline to the faith of Islam. Why they not follow what Jesus taught and said in the gospels? May Allah bless br Shamsi.
Did Jesus ever say or proclaim slavery is wrong and you should free people? Whole he was growing up and training to be a carpenter - did he not see dark skinned people cleaning up after them ? Complicit basically
Not sure who that is, I can only find a musician by that name on CZcams but I assure you out would take his pants off and embarrass him just like he did to every other Muslim at the park
Shamsi the great. May Allah reward you for all your efforts in giving dawah to the people and I pray Allah showers you with his endless blessings ameen...
Shamsi don’t give your time to this dishonest liar. May Allah guide him to the truth and if he’s not deserving of it, may he be humiliated to the degree he deserves.
Age of consent Main article: Ages of consent in the United States In Delaware, the age of consent was 10 years until 1871 when it was lowered to 7 years. Under the 1871 law, the penalty for sex with a girl below the age of consent was death.[8] In 1880, 37 states set the age of consent at 10 years, 10 states set an age of consent at 12 years, and Delaware had an age of consent of 7 years.[12][13][14]
Some English kings: Richard II was the King of England between 1377 and 1399 and as a widower, he took Isabella of Valois as his second wife at the age of six (6) and she became the Queen consort of England shortly after her marriage. They were married on 31st October 1396. King John (d. 1216), also a King of England, married Isabella of Angouleme in 1200, when she was twelve (12). He was 34 at the time. Agnes of Essex, Countess of Oxford was betrothed at age three (3) to Geoffrey de Vere, brother of the first Earl of Oxford, and turned over to be raised by the Veres soon thereafter. Agnes later rejected the match with Geoffrey and by early 1163 at the age of twelve (12) was married to his eldest brother Aubrey de Vere III, 1st Earl of Oxford-who was aged forty-eight (48) at the time-as his third wife. She had her first child-also called Aubrey, who later become 2nd Earl of Oxford-in the same year. Mary Henrietta, eldest daughter of King Charles I, was married to William II of Orange in 1641 at the age of nine (9).
@Scooby Source of morality? Certainly all the teachings compatible with the teachings of Jesus and not any horrors present in the history of the Jewish people as in the histories of every people.
It just says that there are evil and sick people in all places. But your book taks about divorce of children that have not yet menstruated. Talking about sick.
As always Bob smashes and wins the debate AGAIN. Seriously, the Dawah team need to find better apologists. Everything Bob said was factual and spot on.
In the book (Sunan Ibn Dawud - Book of Blood Money - Chapter on whoever Gives a Man to Poison) Second Source (Sahih Muslim Hadith 5834) (Bukhari Hadith 261 Decided No. 1633) Muhammad, the Messenger of Islam died of poisoning at the hands of a Jewish woman from the Jews of Khaybar (Zainab bint Al-Harith) who put the poison In the goat in Khaybar, the Jew said: If you were a prophet, what you did not harm you, and if you were a king, would you relieve people from you? But Muhammad ate from the poisoned goat and did not know that it was poisoned, so how is he a prophet and does not know that the goat is poisoned, the Shiites say that Aisha and Hafsa named the Prophet with Abu Bakr and Omar to take the money and power and it is unreasonable for the poison to remain for three years and then Muhammad dies, the Messenger Muhammad died and remained 3 days he died in Medina under extreme heat, and the Companions did not bury him because Muhammad deceived them and said, “If I die, my body will not disintegrate or swell, but after 3 days Muhammad’s body will disintegrate in the sweltering heat in the city, and gases came out of his ass because of the food that was in his stomach, and then the Companions buried him in this city.” A book called (Al-Shafi’i c 8-Al-Hawi al-Kabir in the jurisprudence of the Imam’s doctrine - issue part 14) Al-Abbas said that the Messenger (despaired as people despair) means disintegration because Muhammad deceived them and told them that his body would not disintegrate and for this reason the companions left him for 3 days and 3 nights until it disintegrated.
Bob still not over the destroying jake gave him notice how since then he won't talk he just interjects and argues cause he knows he has been exposed he scared of the Muslims now cause he knows they got his number
So where did Shamsi refute any of Bobs claims? I watched the whole video and Shamsi spoke lots but managed to say absolutely nothing. Man Bob has the patience of a saint.
Anyone that reads the *Biography of the Mighty Messenger Muhammed Ibn Abdullah* would either love him or stop hating him. Allah created Adam as a *free man* the only way that you can have servant is by *war* and there is many options for the muslim leader, 1: Free them for *Allah sake* which the messenger of Allah did. 2:Exchange them with other muslim prisoner. 3: ransom. 4: Keep them to serve the muslims. If you do that, then there is a *rule* you treat them the way, you treat yourself. When islam came to Arabian Peninsula, slavery were wide spread there, and other places, people would slave other *free* people, they had *no rights* then *ISLAM came and changed that forever* This great man change the direction of the world and so did his companions, may Allah’s peace and blessings be upon him, his noble companions, his noble wives and Whoever follow them, until The Day Of Judgment. But as for the Christians, one of the first ship that went to Africa was called Jesus. They used the Bible. Paul said: Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey christ. When europe met Africa, Among these evil laws were those which said that any slave who transgressed against his master was to be killed, and any slave who ran away was to have his hands and feet cut off, and he was to be branded with hot iron if he ran away again, he was to be killed. How could he run away if his hands and feet had been cut off? As for people other than the israelites, they are a low-class race according to the jews, who may be enslaved via domination and subjugation. *How can you judge*
@Dr EV Rape? what you see in other people is a reflection of yourself. There is no rape in islam my friend. But it is the right of the husband to have intercourse with his servant. He is taking care of her, giving her food, clothes, roof over her head and so on. So it is his rights, as long as she is not sick and so on, just as a wife and a husband. 4:24: *se. ^Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those (captives and slaves) whom your right hands possess. Thus has Allah ordained for you. All others are lawful, provided you seek (them in marriage) with Mahr (bridal money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage) from your property, desiring chastity, not committing illegal sexual intercourse, so with those of whom you have enjoyed sexual relations, give them their Mahr as prescribed; but if after a Mahr is prescribed, you agree mutually (to give more), there is no sin on you. Surely, Allah is Ever AllKnowing, AllWise* Quran
@@TheSlaveOfAllah1992 I think you have been fed a load of sugar coating. The verse clearly states that the only married women you are allowed to touch are the MARRIED slaves. Where on earth in the Qur'an does it say everything else you have just said in the context of 4:24? Are you saying if you were the married female slave, you would be happy to have sex with your owner.
Surely Muslims, Christians and all those with interest deserve to hear a fair debate with zero interruptions from either party. Put all biase aside, who wants to hear a professional debate between Bob and Shamsi?
The confession of Muhammad, the Messenger of Islam, that his cousin (Abu Sufyan bin Al-Harith) violated his honor came in the book (Al-Rawd Al-Maatar fi Khabar Al-Aqtar, part 1, p. And you are the most deserving of people to be forgiven for their crime. The Messenger of God said (He is the one who insulted my honor) Likewise in a third book (Al-Sarim Al-Maslul Ali Insults of the Messenger, part 2, p. 274, Ibn Taymiyyah Al-Harani Abu Al-Abbas) says, So the Messenger of God said, “He is the one who insulted my honor” in the dictionary of meanings. rape.
Israelites became slaves to one another not through kidnapping or unfortunate birth, but because of debt or poverty (Deut. 15:12, NRSV footnote a). Slavery was preferable to starvation, and people might sell themselves into slavery to pay off a debt and at least have a home. But the slavery was not to be lifelong. “If a member of your community, whether a Hebrew man or a Hebrew woman, is sold to you and works for you six years, in the seventh year you shall set that person free” How embarrassing for muslims...
Shamsi is a brilliant speaker and has abundance of knowledge on the 3 main religions christianity Jewdaism and Islam. Shamsi has more knowledge and a clearer understanding of christianity the bible and the teachings of Jesus than all the Christians who speak at speakers corner including the Christian hate preachers bob and hatun.. I like watching shamsi school and educate Christians and people with genuine questions but I will not be watching this video due to knowing how disingenuous bob is and will insult and offend shami and Islam. Bob is not here to learn or teach simply here to insult cause offence and lie about Islam and Muslims therefor this cannot be a fruitful intellectual discussion due to bobs attitude and behaviour.. I sometimes wonder why Muslims even bother with bob and hatun and I think it will be more. Beneficial to avoid ignore and stay away from ignorant misleading lieing characters like Bob and hatun..
Yes and when Jesus told you to massacre little babies who were getting breastfed, in 1 Samuel 15:3, life wasn’t a journey for those newly born babies. Christianity is the only book on this planet that tells you to go slaughter babies alive who were getting breastfed. You can dream of paradise, cause you won’t even smell if fragrance (if you die upon your faith)
The Christiological understanding of Jesus is that he’s inseparable from the trinity. Therefore everything that was commanded in the Old Testament including killing babies, children, women (for no reason), being able to have war captives, have intercourse with them against will and owning slaves was all commanded by Jesus. Not to mention slavery is also permitted in the New Testament. So according to the self-inflicting wound criteria of the Christians falsifies their religion and renders their understanding of God as immoral and “backwards” the way this jāhil Bob puts it.
Matt5:17-18..Jesus said "I have not come to abolish the law of moses but to fulfill it"...Hence we xtian no longer have any obligation to follow them anymore!!..and in matt 22:34-40..he explains the whole purpose of the law of moses in his own law!.."..that you love the lord your God with all your heart and all your soul for in this is the fulfillment of the law of the prophets"..
But if you were right why are you insecure that you have to comment on here. If you truly believe you were right then why come on here trying to make a point? Let everyone see the truth and judge for themselves.
So Bob, made three points within three seconds ((slavery, maryying Aisha and allowed women to be raped)) but when Shamsi said the whites took african as slaves, Bob jumped out of his seat to say you say too many points!!
i dont understand about bobs character. Like you know in you heart there slavery in the bible how can you hide it ? How can you lie to yourself? How can you put your salvation in a book that you yourself are hiding from the people or are embarrassed or scared of?
I agree. Bob brought up very damaging information that Shamsi tried to respond to but instead tried to utter as many words as possible without being a response.
@@TheSkizii Lol. You must be wearing your MUSLIM headphones. Yes, Bob was interrupting, as a response to Shamsi doing the same to Bob. Bob wasn't scared, it was Shamsi that was wearing out his running shoes.... AGAIN!
@@Dr-EV there was no interrupting from Shamsi when Bob started talking about his false accusations and also Shamsi was trying to get the crowd quiet , you said you are not christian but I'm pretty sure it's you wearing your " Christian " headphones .
@@TheSkizii Lol. I like the way we both seem to be defending one side or the other based on if they interrupted, and are not even addressing the topic of the video. So.... False accusations, can you pick one to discuss?
Horus: Egypt, 3000BC Born December 25th Born of a virgin Star in the east Adored by 3 kings Teaching at 12yo Baptised/ministry at 30yo Had 12 disciples Performed miracles Called ‘The lamb of god’ and ‘The Light’ Crucified Dead for 3 days Resurrected. Attis: Greece, 1200BC Born December 25th Born of a virgin Crucified Dead for 3 days Resurrected. Krishna: India, 900BC Born of a virgin Star in the East Performed miracles Resurrected. Dionysus: Greece, 500BC Born of a virgin Born on December 25th Performed miracles Called ‘King of Kings’ Called ‘Alpha and Omega’ Resurrected Mithra: Persia, 1200 BC Born of a virgin Born December 25th 12 disciples Performed miracles Dead for 3 days Resurrected Jesus: Born between 6 and 4 BC. Born of a virgin Born December 25th? Called ‘The lamb of god’ and ‘The Light Called ‘Alpha and Omega’ Star in the east Adored by 3 kings Teaching at 12yo Baptised/ministry at 30yo 12 disciples Performed miracles Dead for 3 days Resurrected Jesus Is Just' another in a long line of dying and rising Gods.
The way Bob used Shamsi's minor interjection to request to move to a different spot as a pretext to constantly interrupt in a diversionary way and interject with his counterarguments over and over again is clear disingenuity.
Bob is scared to death to debate. Lol
Muslims almost never answer the questions or give proof for threir statments. And then they send Shamsi to interupt in order to change the topic because they are losing every time. Didn't see 1 debate that a muslim won against Bob.
The cartoon character Bob the Builder would feel shame knowing he's associated with this Bob
Everything Bob says is complete sophistry. This man doesn't care about truth.
Bob is not slave today because of Prophet Mohammed (PBUH)
@@muzahidcpi He is a slave of a man-made religion and worships a white imaginary man.
@@muzahidcpi But his ancestors enslaved people. Maybe use logic when commenting rather than your emotions.
bob destroys all muslims at the park, all the time.
After Bob got schooled by Jake TMM, he became so angry. I don’t really understand why he is still at the park getting schooled again and again.
He is delusional lol
@@youtuber9409 He has no shame
Bob is so dishonest. I've never seen him have a sincere engagement in dialogue with anyone.
Why not. Lots of dumb people out there. You can make ez money
Name his dishonesty exactly
Bobits
Please can you show Bob's dishonesty.
Can you address his comments about having sex with a married slave. Please provide references.
This bob guy is sick
Indeed he is
No he is not but your prophet was sick by poison... Ahahah
@@pepesansorts5046 so what?
Our beloved Prophet(peace and blessings be upon him) is a human being.
He and his companion" Bishr ibn Al Baraa" ate the poisoned food.
Bishr died from the poison and the Prophet lived for 3 years after he get poisoned.
How is that funny for you?? When a human being a prophet and servant of God get poisoned and you believe that your god was humiliated and killed by the je...ws?
@@Ibrahim-de1gj ahahah...
@@Ibrahim-de1gj if he beloved of Allah why he didnt safe and a life... Where was his miracles... Ahahah
Bob keeps coming back cause he knows Islam lives rent free in his head. These Christian Missionaries need to be realistic, how many become Christians in the park compared to those who become Muslim? We all know the answer
Now ask that same question today. Muslims have very much lost the park thanks to the example set by Bob who has inspired so many youth to now preach and challenge there. God bless Bob always 🙏🏼✝️
Bob pretends that the amount of time required to throw claims is the same amount of time to refute them and clarify them 🤡 what a joke
Bob, your life is full of humiliation because you hate the teachings of Islam & Muslims, then you deserve to be humiliated by Allah swt, Prophet Muhammad SAW & Muslims. A very big humiliation because there is no greater humiliation than that in this world and in the hereafter.
You make it sound like being Muslim is all about humiliation!
@@Dr-EV you need to go back to kindergarten school and ask your teacher to relearn you how to read.
@@herbalistathari And you need to learn respect, because you haven't learned it from the Qur'an.
The Qur'an even tells you to humiliate people in certain scenarios.
@@Dr-EV Of course, refuting falsehood and replacing it with the truth is part of Islam. Your corrupted bible tells you that killing little innocent babies who were getting breastfed is justice in 1 Samuel 15:3. Give me one verse ordering the killing of little innocent babies ? U agree with 1 Samuel 15:3?
@@herbalistathari Lol. You assume I'm Christian. And no I do not condone killing of anyone.
Oh.... Hang on a second, didn't Allah say to believe the Bible or something similar? And isn't Allah the same God of the Bible?
Saḥīḥ Muslim 1767. Your prophet wanted to get rid of ALL Jews and Christians from Arabian peninsula. How do you think he intended on going about doing that? Bribery with chocolates and flowers, or with threats?
Shamsi ran away when he couldn’t win the argument 🙈😅😂
Bob is desperate to save his sinking Christian pagan ship
It must be getting sunk be the tidal wave of ex Muslims
@@Dr-EV show me ONE person leaving Islam because of bob ? I’ll give you at least 10 conversations because of (god) shamsi, and this is without his private conversation etc. Go ahead mister tidal wave surfer of ignorance hahahaha
@@herbalistathari You are obsessed with Samuel 15:3. Give it a rest. I'm not Christian and NO, I do NOT condone the killings in 15:3.
As for apostates........ Do you know what happens to those that leave Islam.... Even in a democratic country like the US, UK, Australia or within Europe....... So do you really think it is something that apostates wish to expose them selves with.
Leaving Islam is like trying to leave the Mafia, if you let other people know about it, you will get treated as such, so apostates normally keep that to themselves.
There are numerous videos from well known Muslim CZcamsrs warning of large amounts of apostates and youths leaving the religion. A recent one describing Afghan refugees who recently left the country dropping it as if it been in their To-do list until safe enough to carry out
@@Dr-EV Most people here are Christian’s so this assumption wasn’t far fetched. I removed the section where I requested the verse because your not Christian. I’ve responded to your first question. Thanks. You can’t bring up multiple subject and expect me to answer anything u want and whenever u need. If I provide you with the answers again, will you become Muslim ?
@@herbalistathari If that's how easy it is for people to call themselves a Muslim, no wonder you think so many are converting to Islam. And if they decide to leave Islam 2 weeks later, other Muslims will only say that there weren't a real Muslim anyway!
Also, how often are people persuaded into Islam with only the 'glorious' verses, and not the verses and Hadiths about Mohammed's sexual obsession, or the missoginistic principals, or the targeted BLANKET treatment of Jews and Christians on the Arabian peninsula. Are they aware of the slave trading that still goes on in the name of Islam?
Byeeeee shamsiiiiiiii!!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bob's deceitful tactics:
1) Regurgitate many points and doubts at one time, so the opponent has no chance to tackle each and every one in detail.
2) Don't provide any evidence for the claims being made.
3) Twist and distort information to suit one's own agenda.
4) Keep interrupting the opponent deliberately causing him to lose track or confuse him.
5) Limit the opponent's time to speak so that he can't clarify the doubts in detail, and to add more doubts on top of that once your turn comes.
6) Disregard the Bible, especially the OT when one sees fit.
7) Avoid answering any of the opponent's objections to your inconsistences and double standards.
8) When attacking Islam, become a liberal, but don't dare say anything bad about the "chosen people" who are your masters, even though almost entirely of what you object to about Islam is also present in the "chosen people".
9) Throw out anachronisms left, right and centre. An anachronism is defined as a person, thing, or idea that exists out of its time in history, especially one that happened or existed later than the period being shown, discussed, etc, like Bob was doing, conflating transatlantic slavery with prisoners of war in Islam.
10) Declare victory when your opponent walks away due to your constant barking and heckling.
Yeah…he’s deceitful like the best of all deceivers aka yr Allah
@@user-uc4ot3jv5g you mean like Paul who made your religion from monotheistic to a pagan Greek methodology like man made fabrication ? U Agree with 1 Samuel 15:3 ? Slaughtering little babies alive ?
Wallah shamsi humiliated him
Bob is still upset from jakes destruction 😅😅😅🤣🤣🤣
I loved it hahaah BOB WAS SO FO*KED
23:29 So Kay is okay with Bob being a misogynist huh? As long as they both share the same hatred for Islam, everything else is trivial? Ok!
I like to see bob so fearful.
Shamsi gave him a humbling experience wallah
I bet as long as Bob Xtian doing that only tactic to attack prophet Muhammad pbuh, many non muslims watching this video will incline to the faith of Islam. Why they not follow what Jesus taught and said in the gospels?
May Allah bless br Shamsi.
Bob always grandstands instead of engaging in discussion
Bob the used car salesman, you will be shamed on the day of Judgement. 🤡
God with you Bob..
Satan with both of you
@@herbalistathari pa d padah ko ya.. Setan nok d sembh ko hari² ya.. Bertaubat lh
Bob wine head🤣😂🤣
We need a translation for all languages
Bye shamsi hahahahahhahahahaa your the run away
All of Scatoon and Blobs zeal will be for nothing in the end.
Has Alan Partridge got nothing else better to do...
The king of England Richard the second married a 6 year old Isabella of Valois.
Isabella of Hainault got married at the age of 10 years old.
Buck shots of questions is really a Christian tactic.
Did Jesus ever say or proclaim slavery is wrong and you should free people?
Whole he was growing up and training to be a carpenter - did he not see dark skinned people cleaning up after them ?
Complicit basically
Don’t bother speaking to that crap bob.
Bob died on 23.01.2022, Jake did his Janazah. No need to talk to a corpse 🤣
@@peaceful_warrior7627 Did he actually die?
@Mo-Ri Jin
No, he had a debate with Jake from USA. Bob is embarasment.
Brother, its a joke,
Bob is standing right there.
But you right we shouldn't be joking like this in Islam. Astaghfirullah.
Bob allway the liar in that park
Shamisi is Like Shamsi
Imagine if Zakir Hussain was here
Last day of Bob's Embarassed carrier
Not sure who that is, I can only find a musician by that name on CZcams but I assure you out would take his pants off and embarrass him just like he did to every other Muslim at the park
Bob said bible that Christian believes the words of god is not perfect..
Bob interp Shamsi severall times 😂
Shamsi the great. May Allah reward you for all your efforts in giving dawah to the people and I pray Allah showers you with his endless blessings ameen...
What reward... Ahahah 72 girls in heaven...? Ahahah... May be...
What about Isaac at the age of forty married Rebekah who was 3 years old? How you justify that?
The Lanat on his face 😱 is clear
Bob is a Clown 🤡.
y does shamzi always run
Shamsi don’t give your time to this dishonest liar.
May Allah guide him to the truth and if he’s not deserving of it, may he be humiliated to the degree he deserves.
Show me in the New Testament where the use of the equivalent of Taqiyya is mandated?
Shamsi can we come this side?
Lol!! Your strategy, signed of COWARDICE
Wait hold on this guy actually said that 9 year old is a women 😂😂😂😂 eyyy this guy is dangerous!!! Arrested him at once !
Queen of england 200 year ago marry at 7 year old you think all england people are stupid but they not stupid truely you are a very stupid person.
Brothers plz stop noticing this man called b'b
Abdools in the park are disgraceful
Age of consent
Main article: Ages of consent in the United States
In Delaware, the age of consent was 10 years until 1871 when it was lowered to 7 years. Under the 1871 law, the penalty for sex with a girl below the age of consent was death.[8]
In 1880, 37 states set the age of consent at 10 years, 10 states set an age of consent at 12 years, and Delaware had an age of consent of 7 years.[12][13][14]
Some English kings:
Richard II was the King of England between 1377 and 1399 and as a widower, he took Isabella of Valois as his second wife at the age of six (6) and she became the Queen consort of England shortly after her marriage. They were married on 31st October 1396.
King John (d. 1216), also a King of England, married Isabella of Angouleme in 1200, when she was twelve (12). He was 34 at the time.
Agnes of Essex, Countess of Oxford was betrothed at age three (3) to Geoffrey de Vere, brother of the first Earl of Oxford, and turned over to be raised by the Veres soon thereafter. Agnes later rejected the match with Geoffrey and by early 1163 at the age of twelve (12) was married to his eldest brother Aubrey de Vere III, 1st Earl of Oxford-who was aged forty-eight (48) at the time-as his third wife. She had her first child-also called Aubrey, who later become 2nd Earl of Oxford-in the same year.
Mary Henrietta, eldest daughter of King Charles I, was married to William II of Orange in 1641 at the age of nine (9).
@Scooby
Source of morality? Certainly all the teachings compatible with the teachings of Jesus and not any horrors present in the history of the Jewish people as in the histories of every people.
@Scooby 1 Samuel 15:3 killing little innocent babies is that ok for you ? This is from your corrupt book.
@@herbalistathari bro sandy is not a Christian. He is against Christianity.
It just says that there are evil and sick people in all places. But your book taks about divorce of children that have not yet menstruated.
Talking about sick.
wasting time to have a discussion to this kind of people
Ooo nooo mad hater bobo the shouter the liar.wist of time to speak with him
As always Bob smashes and wins the debate AGAIN. Seriously, the Dawah team need to find better apologists. Everything Bob said was factual and spot on.
Rob always like that...rude
If you watch the Muslim crowds round Bob you will see the same on his channel.
But y u running Away samsh!!
Racism is in your words, your attitude and your actions..plain to see Bob. Hide behind ur words as much as you want but your actions show the truth.
Embarrassed again...
Run
Run
Run......
Bob is so afraid…
اللهم صل وسلم على سيدنا محمد وعلى اله وصحبه اجمعين
Is slavery okay if God allowed it or commanded it?? That is what Christians ask themselves
Indeed Bob is very sick Man
In the book (Sunan Ibn Dawud - Book of Blood Money - Chapter on whoever Gives a Man to Poison) Second Source (Sahih Muslim Hadith 5834) (Bukhari Hadith 261 Decided No. 1633) Muhammad, the Messenger of Islam died of poisoning at the hands of a Jewish woman from the Jews of Khaybar (Zainab bint Al-Harith) who put the poison In the goat in Khaybar, the Jew said: If you were a prophet, what you did not harm you, and if you were a king, would you relieve people from you? But Muhammad ate from the poisoned goat and did not know that it was poisoned, so how is he a prophet and does not know that the goat is poisoned, the Shiites say that Aisha and Hafsa named the Prophet with Abu Bakr and Omar to take the money and power and it is unreasonable for the poison to remain for three years and then Muhammad dies, the Messenger Muhammad died and remained 3 days he died in Medina under extreme heat, and the Companions did not bury him because Muhammad deceived them and said, “If I die, my body will not disintegrate or swell, but after 3 days Muhammad’s body will disintegrate in the sweltering heat in the city, and gases came out of his ass because of the food that was in his stomach, and then the Companions buried him in this city.” A book called (Al-Shafi’i c 8-Al-Hawi al-Kabir in the jurisprudence of the Imam’s doctrine - issue part 14) Al-Abbas said that the Messenger (despaired as people despair) means disintegration because Muhammad deceived them and told them that his body would not disintegrate and for this reason the companions left him for 3 days and 3 nights until it disintegrated.
Bob still not over the destroying jake gave him notice how since then he won't talk he just interjects and argues cause he knows he has been exposed he scared of the Muslims now cause he knows they got his number
So where did Shamsi refute any of Bobs claims? I watched the whole video and Shamsi spoke lots but managed to say absolutely nothing. Man Bob has the patience of a saint.
Where does God say enslave them can you show me...
Shamsi! let him speak. You are interapting even though we know Bob will lie and manipulate very cleverly.
Bob cares more about the prophet than his god...
Brother Shamsi should stop talking with the deaf, blind & stupid. I prefer watching an intelligent discussion to a shoutfest
Bob is too childish 😅
Anyone that reads the *Biography of the Mighty Messenger Muhammed Ibn Abdullah* would either love him or stop hating him.
Allah created Adam as a *free man* the only way that you can have servant is by *war* and there is many options for the muslim leader, 1: Free them for *Allah sake* which the messenger of Allah did. 2:Exchange them with other muslim prisoner. 3: ransom. 4: Keep them to serve the muslims.
If you do that, then there is a *rule* you treat them the way, you treat yourself.
When islam came to Arabian Peninsula, slavery were wide spread there, and other places, people would slave other *free* people, they had *no rights* then *ISLAM came and changed that forever*
This great man change the direction of the world and so did his companions, may Allah’s peace and blessings be upon him, his noble companions, his noble wives and Whoever follow them, until The Day Of Judgment.
But as for the Christians, one of the first ship that went to Africa was called Jesus. They used the Bible.
Paul said: Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey christ.
When europe met Africa, Among these evil laws were those which said that any slave who transgressed against his master was to be killed, and any slave who ran away was to have his hands and feet cut off, and he was to be branded with hot iron if he ran away again, he was to be killed. How could he run away if his hands and feet had been cut off?
As for people other than the israelites, they are a low-class race according to the jews, who may be enslaved via domination and subjugation.
*How can you judge*
And in 4:24 it say
*Also ˹forbidden are˺ married women-except ˹female˺ captives in your possession.*
So this is saying you can rape your slaves.
@Dr EV
Rape? what you see in other people is a reflection of yourself. There is no rape in islam my friend. But it is the right of the husband to have intercourse with his servant. He is taking care of her, giving her food, clothes, roof over her head and so on. So it is his rights, as long as she is not sick and so on, just as a wife and a husband.
4:24: *se.
^Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those (captives and slaves) whom your right hands possess. Thus has Allah ordained for you. All others are lawful, provided you seek (them in marriage) with Mahr (bridal money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage) from your property, desiring chastity, not committing illegal sexual intercourse, so with those of whom you have enjoyed sexual relations, give them their Mahr as prescribed; but if after a Mahr is prescribed, you agree mutually (to give more), there is no sin on you. Surely, Allah is Ever AllKnowing, AllWise* Quran
May Allah guide you.
@@TheSlaveOfAllah1992 I think you have been fed a load of sugar coating.
The verse clearly states that the only married women you are allowed to touch are the MARRIED slaves. Where on earth in the Qur'an does it say everything else you have just said in the context of 4:24?
Are you saying if you were the married female slave, you would be happy to have sex with your owner.
@@TheSlaveOfAllah1992 it is also the reason why we do not believe Allah is just and fair as he endorses the treatment of others in this way.
both of them dont understand the word dont interrupt
Bob is not there to learn. He has been adressed many time on subjects but keeps asking queston over n over again.
No honor. Ice dead.
Surely Muslims, Christians and all those with interest deserve to hear a fair debate with zero interruptions from either party. Put all biase aside, who wants to hear a professional debate between Bob and Shamsi?
It really is child like behaviour.
The confession of Muhammad, the Messenger of Islam, that his cousin (Abu Sufyan bin Al-Harith) violated his honor came in the book (Al-Rawd Al-Maatar fi Khabar Al-Aqtar, part 1, p. And you are the most deserving of people to be forgiven for their crime. The Messenger of God said (He is the one who insulted my honor) Likewise in a third book (Al-Sarim Al-Maslul Ali Insults of the Messenger, part 2, p. 274, Ibn Taymiyyah Al-Harani Abu Al-Abbas) says, So the Messenger of God said, “He is the one who insulted my honor” in the dictionary of meanings. rape.
Israelites became slaves to one another not through kidnapping or unfortunate birth, but because of debt or poverty (Deut. 15:12, NRSV footnote a). Slavery was preferable to starvation, and people might sell themselves into slavery to pay off a debt and at least have a home. But the slavery was not to be lifelong. “If a member of your community, whether a Hebrew man or a Hebrew woman, is sold to you and works for you six years, in the seventh year you shall set that person free”
How embarrassing for muslims...
Bob knows he’s a liar..
This Bob clearly has a agenda why you brothers stil talkin to this man!
I see shame-she had his running shoes on again🤦🏽♂️😂🤣😂🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️💨💨💨💨
Dang!! Bob got the muslims angry here…he definitely did a good job then
Bob the liar
Shamsi is a brilliant speaker and has abundance of knowledge on the 3 main religions christianity Jewdaism and Islam. Shamsi has more knowledge and a clearer understanding of christianity the bible and the teachings of Jesus than all the Christians who speak at speakers corner including the Christian hate preachers bob and hatun.. I like watching shamsi school and educate Christians and people with genuine questions but I will not be watching this video due to knowing how disingenuous bob is and will insult and offend shami and Islam. Bob is not here to learn or teach simply here to insult cause offence and lie about Islam and Muslims therefor this cannot be a fruitful intellectual discussion due to bobs attitude and behaviour.. I sometimes wonder why Muslims even bother with bob and hatun and I think it will be more. Beneficial to avoid ignore and stay away from ignorant misleading lieing characters like Bob and hatun..
Bob came because he is paid, seriously do you think he came out of his own goodwill? To be humiliated every time he comes to the park?
Life is the journey, Paradise is the destination, Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life.
Yes and when Jesus told you to massacre little babies who were getting breastfed, in 1 Samuel 15:3, life wasn’t a journey for those newly born babies. Christianity is the only book on this planet that tells you to go slaughter babies alive who were getting breastfed. You can dream of paradise, cause you won’t even smell if fragrance (if you die upon your faith)
Where do you get your information from?
The Christiological understanding of Jesus is that he’s inseparable from the trinity. Therefore everything that was commanded in the Old Testament including killing babies, children, women (for no reason), being able to have war captives, have intercourse with them against will and owning slaves was all commanded by Jesus. Not to mention slavery is also permitted in the New Testament. So according to the self-inflicting wound criteria of the Christians falsifies their religion and renders their understanding of God as immoral and “backwards” the way this jāhil Bob puts it.
Matt5:17-18..Jesus said "I have not come to abolish the law of moses but to fulfill it"...Hence we xtian no longer have any obligation to follow them anymore!!..and in matt 22:34-40..he explains the whole purpose of the law of moses in his own law!.."..that you love the lord your God with all your heart and all your soul for in this is the fulfillment of the law of the prophets"..
If by refuting you mean showing I am right... Then yes I was refuted...
But if you were right why are you insecure that you have to comment on here. If you truly believe you were right then why come on here trying to make a point? Let everyone see the truth and judge for themselves.
Bob did better. Both were interrupting but the Muslims always come across with a worse demeanour
Shamsi the RUNNING MAN. 😁
15 yrs
So Bob, made three points within three seconds ((slavery, maryying Aisha and allowed women to be raped)) but when Shamsi said the whites took african as slaves, Bob jumped out of his seat to say you say too many points!!
Bob is one of the worst and Ill meaner person, neither does he has knowledge or understanding of what he is saying 😡
Uraaaaaa 🇷🇺
i dont understand about bobs character. Like you know in you heart there slavery in the bible how can you hide it ? How can you lie to yourself? How can you put your salvation in a book that you yourself are hiding from the people or are embarrassed or scared of?
What's wrong with this clown brining up points that have been responded to years ago
He is not racist?!?! 😂 okay but we surely has seen him being sexist.
Atleast bob supports his claims with evidence, you are jst talking talking ......
Assalaamu Alykum.
I want my children to give dawa like brother shamsi. In sha Allah.
There are really good dawah guys out there, shamsi is not one of them.
Allah ya donkey hihihihi
they definitely need a moderator, they try to fit their debate between "let me finish"s-- it´s irritating, because it could have been a good debate.
I agree, they were both as bad as each other. But, it could have been good.
Cannot stand Bob's voice. Evidence aside I would never become Christian as long as Bob is a Christian.
How did shamsi upload this? He got demolished by Bob
I agree. Bob brought up very damaging information that Shamsi tried to respond to but instead tried to utter as many words as possible without being a response.
@@Dr-EV he didn't bring anything , he just made up statements and when Shamsi tried to clarify his lies he got scared and kept interrupting .
@@TheSkizii Lol. You must be wearing your MUSLIM headphones. Yes, Bob was interrupting, as a response to Shamsi doing the same to Bob. Bob wasn't scared, it was Shamsi that was wearing out his running shoes.... AGAIN!
@@Dr-EV there was no interrupting from Shamsi when Bob started talking about his false accusations and also Shamsi was trying to get the crowd quiet , you said you are not christian but I'm pretty sure it's you wearing your " Christian " headphones .
@@TheSkizii Lol. I like the way we both seem to be defending one side or the other based on if they interrupted, and are not even addressing the topic of the video.
So.... False accusations, can you pick one to discuss?
Bob is the Bomber. Like it!
Shansi is a liar,Muhammed us a false pro
Horus: Egypt, 3000BC
Born December 25th
Born of a virgin
Star in the east
Adored by 3 kings
Teaching at 12yo
Baptised/ministry at 30yo
Had 12 disciples
Performed miracles
Called ‘The lamb of god’ and ‘The Light’
Crucified
Dead for 3 days
Resurrected.
Attis: Greece, 1200BC
Born December 25th
Born of a virgin
Crucified
Dead for 3 days
Resurrected.
Krishna: India, 900BC
Born of a virgin
Star in the East
Performed miracles
Resurrected.
Dionysus: Greece, 500BC
Born of a virgin
Born on December 25th
Performed miracles
Called ‘King of Kings’
Called ‘Alpha and Omega’
Resurrected
Mithra: Persia, 1200 BC
Born of a virgin
Born December 25th
12 disciples
Performed miracles
Dead for 3 days
Resurrected
Jesus: Born between 6 and 4 BC.
Born of a virgin
Born December 25th?
Called ‘The lamb of god’ and ‘The Light
Called ‘Alpha and Omega’
Star in the east
Adored by 3 kings
Teaching at 12yo
Baptised/ministry at 30yo
12 disciples
Performed miracles
Dead for 3 days
Resurrected
Jesus Is Just' another in a long line of dying and rising Gods.