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i would love to see a cost breakdown of his entire house. and how much he saves each month vs how much it cost to build the house
Something to keep in mind is that such houses are not just for saving money (which I'm not sure is yet possible in all cases), but also for quality and comfort of living. I don't think anyone can reasonably dispute that mechanical (ERV/HRV) filtered ventilation is superior to that which might seep through cracks in a normal construction, or that it's nice to sit next to a window that won't leak in the worst storm nor condense moisture in winter, or that it's great to not be able to hear street traffic outside due to the thickness of the insulation and windows.
For some those things are worth paying a premium for, and at that point any other benefits like no energy bills are just a nice bonus. That said, I think it is possible to build such houses at a very minor (5-10%) premium over typical construction if one is careful.
Agreed, some people buy a sedan, others buy a Mercedes, we all have different values
You will never get your money back in a house like this during your life time. They cost way too much to build vs what you save when you take it to this extreme.
Tough question at hand - because what you YOU compare it to? What is the actual cost of a house DONE RIGHT? Is a code built house your baseline? Would you live in a code built home? For this client, money is important, but more important was his non-dependence in his future on energy companies. He now lives out his life with no energy bills or dependence except for the sun to rise everyday. What's the price tag on that retirement plan? I'll answer for you - PRICELESS?
plus, the resale value of a house like that stays a lot higher then a code built house.
I don’t know why, but the passive house stuff is always my favorite!
I'm sure that part of that favoritism would only be enhanced if your electricity bill read $0.00...
Mine too - always exciting stuff to be had when chatting Passive House
I can see this happening in the north... Can it be done in the south (Austin, San Antonio)? I just don't know why more people don't demand houses like this or similar.
I was stationed in San Antonio for four years, and I would have loved an extra layer of insulation in my house. I wonder how much more R30 walls and R50 lids would cost?
You're my favorite
I think I’ve watched this video at least 10 times - just enjoy how well thought out this house is. Wouldn’t it be cool to build an entire neighborhood of homes this way? Great Job!
I see a lot of people asking for a cost breakdown but please keep in mind that depending on your zip code, the price may be dramatically different. Also, even if you can't achieve a passive house certification, pushing your home to be as "green" as possible will give you a noticeable difference. Smart planning with an architect, smart product selection, and so forth will give you terrific results. Cheers!
I do sprayfoam insulation for a living and I love to see energy efficiency at its best ! This is new building science at its best ! The rest of America should really pay attention to these building practices, and start incorporating them into their builds! Thank you Matt, I love your shows!!!!
Spark EV and Nissan LEAF owner here enjoying this video and this house! Now about that bolt... 238 mile range and powered by the sun. nice!
Hard to beat that - especially in your retirement years
I lived in Boston for a few years. It has hot summers and frigid winters and it's not sunny every day. This appears to be a fairly modest home in a normal residential community, not a multi-million dollar research project or millionaire's play thing. The man has net zero energy bills and does not need to put gas in his car. I know the initial investment in the home construction is probably greater but...damn...
It was a little more, but not really much, I've had clients spend more on their kitchen appliances
I live in sunny southern California, and I'm an evangelist for radiant barriers. I encourage my neighbors to implement this oh-so-$-inexpensive tactic, towards tempering heat extremes. We live in a dry sunny climate, entirely different from Boston MA. So anyone who lives in a hot dry climate can exploit radiant barriers, unless he already has solar panels galore; they actually compete to keep a space cool. But a radiant barrier ALSO works the other way around, to keep a space warm over night, and over winter.
I saw no mention of radiant barriers in Mr. Roy's project, and I suspect that radiant barriers are of no interest in Massachusetts. Let me know if anyone "does this" in Massachusetts.
I'm about to have my 32-square roof changed, after 27 years. And we will figure out how to implement radiant barrier on OSB, without removing the space sheathing that my house possesses, from its original construction date of 1964.
@@LongLiveOurBuildings This is exactly the point I try to make with folks when they say it's to expensive!
@@derj1981 the same people who say it's too expensive dont bat an eye at 7500$ a year between heating/cooling/power, really weird to me
@Jellcity you can just build a monolithic dome, and it's more efficient for much less money.
Just for the power outage for 5 days and only dropped 10 degrees is worth the extra money. I wish I could have a house like this for hurricane season
It would be nice if youd have gone into a little more detail abbout the construct. What was used for the exterior walls? foam insulation, fiberglass batts, vapor barrier, osb sheeting etc etc?
Finehomebuilding did a video series on this home's construction
Or the price… I’d imagine this was incredibly expensive. Everyone’s all about building efficient and that’s what’s exciting but people seem to gloss over how pricey it is. Yes you save a ton on energy bills so that offsets it a bit but still that can’t be cheap.
Dan Roy, you're home is a national treasure and you are too. Thanks for sharing, and inspiring a nation of lookie loos. I am first in line.
Dan is one of the most inspiring clients that I have had, a true pleasure, and a treasure!!
Thanks for sharing. During the video I was being persnickety in my mind thinking of how I would have built certain aspects better but in the end I remembered that this is a large home that was meant to suit the homeowners needs not mine. I always hope to learn something new when I watched these videos and today was no exception. I loved the idea of putting window shades on the outside. That solves a theoretical dilemma I've been pondering in my future home. Thanks Matt!
It would be nice to see more information on the building process of these passive houses. Framing, insulation & air barrier details, rain screens, types of siding.
That would make a killer video series!
This is an excellent Shedplans.Work with clear instructions, minimizing jargon and explaining jargon as needed . The illustrations are very clear and explanatory. I found the Ryan’s Shed Plans very helpful to me as a consumer of professional building services.
I like that they still installed ceiling fans throughout for “people” cooling and can also aid in heat/air distribution. Here in Texas even the most energy efficient homes have fans everywhere. I see it less in videos of northern homes. Also the fact the so many windows are operable for when you just want good old outside air, really makes it for me. Amazing place.
Great points - I agree
There wasn't much discussion of the solar panels but I would assume they do not have a house battery and the grid tie in is 1:1 rated. Meaning for every kWh generated one is credited. From 1:11 there are 35 250 watt solar panels for a 8.75 kW system. This makes sense for more Northern sun hours of 3.8 and to charge the EV. The average house uses about 30 kWh per day and this home would be producing about 33 kWhs on a sunny day. The efficiency gains from direct solar heating probably on their own make up a big chunk that would be needed to charge the EV. Also heat pump water heaters alone would save 5 kWhs. While we got a long way to go for energy storage we can clearly see rooftop solar is plenty of power for all residential energy use.
Building for 26 years and this is all new to me. Great ideas. Never stop learning
Thanks
Ty. It’s nice to see a finished house and see the passion in the home ownership
The FHB articles & videos on this house are really informative. Answers most of the questions people are asking here. Really impressed that, other than the windows, all of the components are readily available.
Thank you David!
5 years in Massachusetts with no heating bills now that is amazing! When I lived there 3 years ago my heating bill was around 150 a month in the winter for a one bedroom apartment.
I am curious about the price tag on this place and a rough estimate of how much extra went into it to gain the extra efficiency over a regular solid build.
Don't know the metrics of a solid build - this was about 12% than code built for this market
Awesome video would love to see more like this where you go though the whole house and see how to make a passive home! Wish we could see the other top 9 efficient homes haha
I like that overhang on the 2nd floor of the first house. NICE.
Much appreciated
Those windows are standard in Germany. I first saw those in Kaiserslautern in 1991.
Much respect from the UK. We are miles behind you guys when it comes to building homes that are efficient.
In Massachusetts having no energy bill is AMAZING! Before we moved south our bill was upwards of 150 a month in the winter for a small one bedroom apartment.
I really like the idea of a passive house. I know it wouldn't work at my house though. My wife would put the ac on 62 then open all the windows while my kids are running around leaving all the doors open including the freezer doors. All in East Texas.
Isn't America Beautiful lol - my kids climb under 4 blankets and put the ceiling fan on in winter....
maybe they wouldn't in a more comfortable house? I dunno, one can hope lol
The owner and architect make it all look easy but what they have achieved with this house is incredible.
Thank you very much - everyone gets easier if only the mainstream market understood, we could make this seamless.....
I learn so much from watching this channel. Thank you Matt Risinger!
Great job guys. Please keep these energy efficient home videos coming. I plan on building soon and this is my dream.
We needed to solve the humidity problem in our basement and were tired of using the old technology of running a dehumidifier (which costs a lot to operate and never gets rid of the toxic basement air), so we decided to buy a product called the Breeze. It has a gentle exhaust fan (115 cfm) that is rated for continuous operation, controlled by a humidistat. Instead of treating the toxic and humid basement air, it exhausts it, creating a vacuum that draws the "conditioned" air from the home's first floor into, to take its place. The results are nothing short of miraculous. The air quality in the basement has improved dramatically and we've been able to unplug the energy drawing dehumidifier. The Breeze costs pennies a week to run. No filters or drains are needed. The company sells one and two-fan models that cost from $299 to $449 and carry a 5-year warranty. I strongly recommend the appliance, especially if you’re interested in energy efficiency. It's available on the company website (breezesystemsinternational.com) or on Amazon and Ebay. Much cheaper than the $1,500 to $2,000 units sold by Wave Ventilation, Humidex or EZ Breathe. Now our dry basement also has healthy air!
I really would love to see this idea catch on. Great material, thanks Matt.
5k views in the first 5 hours?! What do y’all just sit on CZcams all day? Can’t wait to watch this after work tonight. Thanks Matt!
It’s funny how that goes. Amazes me too
This is a globally accessible outlet isn’t it? A large portion of the world is awake and off work at any given time of day.
The amazing thing is that all of this if running for free! You see it and think you are really paying a ton, but he is receiving a return. Wow!
The PV system paid for itself in less than 5 years - on to energy free......
I must have missed the part where the average interior temp & humidity levels were shared. Dig your stuff Matt. Thank you for constantly putting out relative & forward-looking content.
This is my goal in life.
getting rid of all my bills
It's attainable
Except the mortgage thats 15% high so he didnt have a utility bill. Lmao
Me to but I'm going to build an actual efficiency home. You know, thermal loss efficiency. The real efficiency rating. Then you don't need very much heat or ac
@@Bryan-Hensley well luckily A passive house only cost 5-10% on average more to build then a traditional home.
but thermal efficiency is not everything, that only impacts the heating and cooling costs. (which I am aware of is the most significant, 35-70% of a homes energy usage)
but there is also electricity, water, Gas, sewage, trash, property tax, HOA(yeah right), cell phone, and internet.
I must get rid of them all, all these bills must die! :)
@@mountainbikerdave that's kinda funny. I just asked a builder I know and he said 40 to 70 percent increase in price depending on how far you wanted to go. He says the one in this video would not qualify around here. And he wanted to know why they aren't testing the BTUs losses. That's one part that qualifies a home as passive. You are better off using LED 1-5 standards though. They are more detailed and strict.
This is amazing! I'd love to see some in-depth videos on homes like this in Texas.
Great content! I can't wait to see the nuts and bolts of passive design like insulation and energy storage and carbon footprint.
It only gets better and more interesting the deeper you dig - there's a Whole Other World on the other side of fear
Great video, if you weren't thinking about a Passive Home, you will be after watching this, Well done !!
Thank you sir!!
The second one in Massachusetts... Let that sink in.
I think the reason Dan's is such a perfect case is because he understands and cares that he has a passive house. Going passive takes just as much attention from the homeowner as it does work from the builder. Not to say going passive is allot of work but I'm sure Dan checks all his numbers and keeps good track of the efficiency he can spot when something is wrong and usually just from the data know why.
I would argue there aren't many people that understand their house better than Dan does
Agreed.
These para-off grid homes are capital intensive and demand more attention from homeowners than less efficient conventional homes do.
In our domestically transient society there will be a very limited niche market possessing the inclination for the additional maintenance and care. Such buyers would MORE likely just build their own design than trust someone else's X-years old tech + questionable maintenance.
The aging-in-place aspect, although romantic, will be harsh in another decade when Mom & Dad probably should hang up their car keys.
These are custom made sports car homes. Great grandpa is going to maintain a sports car (house)? Really? GLWT.
True R value for 2x6 Wall --- R-11
Wall is 60% insulated --- R-22 (fiberglass or cellulose)
Wall is 25% solid wood --- R-10
Wall is 15% windows and doors --- R-2
In north east R-22 is rather low, maybe even under most code minimums. This construction's walls probably hit R-75 (this is what PassivHaus projects hits up here in Quebec). Its probably not 2x6 walls but 2 2x4 with a good foot of insulation in between and no thermal bridge. And he said his windows were R-7+ and they are smartly arranged so that they can let the sun in many hours a day (only when needed)... There is no way he would have got a passive certification with R-11 walls.
But this is a double wall - thermally broken
Interesting how we used these style of windows in Europe for the last 20 years. When will roladens become the norm?
I have no idea… I really don’t have a problem with the windows we have but I do wish they’d add an additional pane in the middle but keep it a slider with the screen.
Outstanding! I found your videos very informative, to the point and educational. Thank you so much.
Great - much appreciated
Basic construction. Love it
With a little more attention to detail
It frustrates me so much that Australians don’t take PH stuff seriously.
I have a property that I purchased that was built in 1979. I wanted to look at improvements in efficiency but I was told it’s good enough as it is. It’s a double story (on a suspended 8in slab) interior walls down stairs are bagged cinder blocks while upstairs Interior walls are 10mm of cement render over cinder blocks. Exterior walls are the same as interior walls plus 65 mm air gap to a solid external brick.
It needs new windows as they are original and I wanted to re-clad over the painted brickwork with a type of cladding, I thought I could insulate between the bricks and the new cladding. The home is lucky it has such large rooms as I’m sure something could be done to the interior walls too.
It just seems people are happy waisting there money on purchasing massive ducted HVAC systems. 🤦♂️
Matt love your vlog even though I'm not a builder. Very informative and presented in an easy to understand manner. But, cab you start using a gimbal? Very disconcerting the image movement in some scenes.
You are suppose to run the exhaust fan thingie when finished showering for 30+ minutes not while showering even though you can run it while showering too, because the steam builds up over time and it also spreads out throughout the bathroom it doesn’t stay just within the shower basin area.
That is basically my dream house. The home I’m in now has terrible energy consumption. Im on Florida and switched to window units to cut waste and have lowered my bills but with and engineer mother I’ve got a clear understanding of just how bad thin windows, poor insulation and envelope can be... I did add reflective tint to the windows but the whole place needs to be redone for sure.
I love the build show.
Me too!!
Matt! Have you seen the Freefly Movi gimbal and Moment lenses? Would be great for getting steady wide angle video on the road without carrying a ton of gear.
If every client cared as much as Dan about home performance our industry would be in a very good place. Instead everyone is obsessed with low first cost, curb appeal, and more space than they know what to do with.
Keep pushing that needle in the right direction Matt!
Dan was a dream client
for years i've thought of what my dream house would be like and now i know what to call it. This is definitely the model for the home I want.
I’d love to have a home like this built in Kansas.
I love the Passive concept. I would love to see a project that takes a suitably positioned home (most glazing facing South and nothing shading the sun) that was built using standard construction techniques and renovates it to incorporate as many Passive House principals as possible. If you need a home to do this project, I have one...
LOL, I do that almost everyday
So build a new traditional house, gut it, then make it passive?
In my case I have a house built in 1989, it has tons of windows facing South that are at the point they need replacing, the walkout basement (lots of south facing windows too) needs refinishing after a flood... this sort of scenario seems perfect for upgrading windows to something suitable for passive-solar, but beyond that the reno would need to add some thermal mass in the right places, upgraded insulation, perhaps tweak mechanical systems... etc.
Upgrading windows is possible. As far as adding insulation, you would have to tear out all the walls (to put on inside) or remove siding (to put on outside). There is a airborne system out that can fill in some of the holes in the envelope, but i'm not sure about effectiveness is when drywall is already up. Adding thermal mass would be pouring concrete inside the house? You can't usually tweak mechanical systems besides sealing. Changing capacity would usually involve replacement. You can't just replace one wall, you have to replace all of them to get maximum effectiveness.
Analogy: If you have 4 water leaks in your pipes, you can't patch one and expect your house not to flood.
Look up chainsaw retrofit. That would be the ideal scenario if you need new siding, roof, and mechanicals at the same time and want to significantly decrease your utility bills and increase interior comfort.
Matt,
Thank you so very much for the follow up on this home... and Go Red Sox! This project was extremely influential when I was designing my home. Really it was between all Your advice 3-4yrs ago, this article on this home, and my Mastering Building Science from Dr. Allison Bailes that I designed and built my home.
Thanks again for all your wonderful videos!
The wild part is that PV panels have had a break thru in wattage output in just the last 2 years. If he switches his panels from just 5 years ago he'll have over wattage and easily juice to spare. The only that sucks even with Bolt, Teslas, etc is that we need a break thru in batteries now. They are still too heavy, dense, and don't store enough juice for the footprint they are presently at, either way that is very cool house. I just wish there were more like it for the general consumer but this video is 30 years ahead of common practice. :(
Dan is a forward thinking engineer, and a dream client. I agree batteries are the log jam, but we'll get there
Tragic thing in CA they limit the solar generation to just what the home uses. Power companies don't want to pay a homeowner for power. Shortsighted to me.
li ion batteries are not dense
+Future Hindsight that is a nice summation but you have one problem you are ignoring the fact that pound-for-pound ounce per ounce kilogram per kilogram the hydrocarbon is still 60 to 70 times the energy density of the finest lithium battery on the planet. Sorry but until that changes and I'll take a ratio of 30 to 1 to settle then the batteries are and will remain the ultimate log jam in the Tesla equation. The stored energy capacity is nowhere near what it needs to be for the absolute means of the majority of drivers on the roads today and don't even get me started about light duty pickup trucks. When you start handling Mass to haul ratios unless you are a semi with massive storage capacity that can house that many batteries you have no chance against the hydrocarbon. Storage capacity and the inefficiency of the present battery technology is the Kluge. Charging stations are great but you got to have so many of them for distance so close together and coupled with the inability to charge under 5 minutes to full capacity without catching fire. You need to reexamine your numbers and I'm saying this as someone who is pro e v. Sorry but your statement doesn't add up on the practicality scale.
@Future Hindsight energy density is anything but a red herring you referenced your house which is fine house you can add onto you can have two full bedrooms filled to the ceiling with battery power I have zero issue with that but when you talk about a mobile conveyance that doesn't fly from a practicality standpoint you are still missing the point of the energy density equation until there is a battery breakthrough Tesla doesn't make the cut overall it doesn't mean that they shouldn't be made and it doesn't mean that you shouldn't buy one but it also doesn't mean that we need to all Drive U-Hauls that are over 12 ft long and 8 ft High so that we can get to wherever we need to go whenever we need to go to it. You can defy a lot of things but the laws of physics are not one of them. As for the CO2 emissions and the pollution from the hydrocarbon I completely agree but you're still trying to dodge the simple fact of 60 to 70 times the energy density. Until that ratio changes whether it's lithium batteries hydrogen fuel cell or some magic goo then the storage capacity for mobile conveyances and to some degree free-standing structures then we are still stuck at a log Jam.
Loved the video. Amazing house! But I can think of one reason someone wouldn't... Can this house function in the deep south, Orlando, San Antonio, etc.?
it is amazing that people even have a passion to insulate a house that good in a country there electrcity and fuel is alot cheaper than Europe.
Your friend seems very smart. Consider teaming up with him and produce a mini-series. Let him choose the topic of the series. That will keep help the channel stay fresh with new content. (I am from Central NYS)
Yeah Matt, this sounds like something to think about
Really interesting. One thing to consider is the amount of jargon, or industry terminology, used which is meaningful to those who understand it, but is not to the average watcher. Explaining terms the first time they are used or adding a caption to define a term would be helpful. Thanks
Holy crap.. I never knew I wanted a passive house until I saw this video.
What's the ballpark price for the air unit? I guess you to have this unit installed when the house was being built? Installing such an air unit would be nearly impossible once a house has been built, right?
That's is just an amazing house. One day .... One day ... Zero energy bills. .... And hopefully no water bill. .. Thanks for sharing Matt.
It would be interesting to see a cost vs efficiency study. Since this level of efficiency is most likely out of range for majority of homeowners. Why not aim for slightly less efficiency but at an affordable upfront cost?
This is the future.
Nice installation quality. Even though we have this a lot in Europe because of code, the execution of ventilation systems is not always this great, so congrats.
He has a 240 mile quick charging Chevy Bolt there too, smart man!
Dan, is a very good thinker, and planner, this outline for his retirement is a model for all of us
Love the house. The problem I see in the future would be a "carrington event" which would render all electrical systems useless. There are no backups. But I still love all the tech in this house.
i actually got excited once they pulled up, "looks normal, the good stuff is inside" i couldnt wait lol
That's the goal, they shouldn't look any different
In 2012, I added solar to my home, bought an electric car and moved to heat pump appliances, with gas basically as a back up. Initially, when my parents passed away, I put the inheritance money in the bank making less than 1% interest and paying tax on that income. Instead, I moved to solar, which generates $2000. of tax free energy per year, which feeds my home and electric car. An 11 year ROI. Like this home, I produce more energy than I consume, and receive credit for this excess production, Solar is a enabler to move away from fossil fuels for most of our needs. My home is in the south, so cooling is my focus. My only regret was not going solar earlier.
With were things are going right now here in germany, we soon might be required to build passiv houses when building new homes or at least come close to to the requirements of one. I quite like the idea of everyone living in one of those to help make the world a better place.
Is there a list of the components used somewhere? Like brand and model of windows, AC, external remote sunscreens, on demand pump, ERV, etc.
Also, what R values for slab, walls, windows, roof? Construction of walls and roof (ie, SIP - double wall - ICF, etc.)? PLEASE????!!!! I live in Texas.
Awesome content on this one!, definitely learned something new!!
Matt did a great job, didn't he
Steven Baczek Definitely!
Awesome home and thanks for the great video tour.
Agreed
That is awesome. Great work.
Thanks
Need to talk about the "building science" of passive houses. The water barrier and air barrier are different to the other houses you talk about.
Wow Matt,Awesome vid.
Thank you
Love the euro tilt turn windows. Safe to say most people that watch this video will still put vinyl trash into their own homes.
Unfortunately they will continueto exist
Best vid yet
Thanks
Why was the hot water pump button placed in the corner like that?
@Steve, why did the house owner remove Geothermal loop for heating and cooling and go for split A/C ?
Wow this house has amazing technology. Love it!
Has Most energy efficient House on the East Coast and still drives a Chevy! Would love to know what was done to insulate the house.
Blown cellulose in the walls and attic. What's wrong with Chevy?
Wow! So exciting.
I wouldn't say having a passive house is my end goal in life, but if it does turn out to be my end goal (especially when I retire in 30 years), imagine what options will be available!
My house would easily contend with this on energy efficiency, air tightness And im in hot humid Florida maybe Matt should come look.
Euro profile windows!! 3:37 Those can be bought for under $100 for Made in Poland variety or closer to $200 for cheaper German product.
Love this! Few questions; How well do these passive homes perform in the Texas summers? What's the breakeven duration?
Mat please talk about the Continuous Air change, building a new home an I'd like to try an work that in my cost
I like the fact that its on it's own system separate from the HVAC if possible
6:30 What company made the windows? They say they’re not *Shueco* but I can’t make out what he says...
Makrowin sourced thru European Architectural Supply
Steve the architect always looks like he just spent a rough night in the clink.
It's a tough job buddy!!!
I'm sitting in 129 year old building in front of an old Giant window it's 26 degrees out I'm nice and warm
A bit like living in a space station 🤩
Dan consistently raves that inside his house is the best environment he knows...
As a great build wizard I look up to likes to say, those are some real bomber details! But I have to point out the battery’s in the EV are terrible for the environment in the long term, therefore in my humble opinion conflict with the passive house design goal of a marginal negative impact on the environment through ultra efficient home construction. Not a hater, just want everyone to know nothing is free. 👍💪❤️Love from Northwest Arkansas! Risinger Rocks!! 🤩😎🥳
i wanted this before i even knew it was a thing. everyones all like "houses need to breath" " you cant have it air tight" yeah, OK
You need to edit a commentary and add specs in writing in the video or seperate spec sheet tide to building standard spec.
how come no one ever credits adamson and feist when discussing passive house? and when are we going to see working class affordability instead of these luxury yacht style passive homes.
This is a market rate home for this area
You should do a video on the pensmore mansion.
So I was trying to listen to the brand of triple glazed windows and can’t understand what brand you said they were as I would like to contact the manufacture for more information...can you help me please? A recent subscriber to your channel. Thank you, Howard.
Howard Shy windows by makrowin
Love to see most if not all houses built to this standard. Would have liked to see some details of the solar array, battery etc give it was mentioned so much but not shown.
Matt, please get a handheld gimbal for whatever you are using to record (cell phone or dslr). Had to look away at parts as the shaking was too much.