TRANSFORM YOUR RIFFS w/ Misha Mansoor - drum programming tutorial

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  • čas přidán 21. 10. 2018
  • Misha Mansoor of Periphery shows how to completely change the feel of a riff with just a few simple changes to the drum part.
    Misha demonstrates using the song from his JST Toneforge demo and the drums he programmed with GGD Modern & Massive: by simply adding or deleting ghost notes, moving kick or snare placements, or moving the cymbals from china to hi hat or vice versa, the same riff can have a radically different feel.
    While there's nothing wrong with adding riffs if it sounds good, consider adding this technique (as shown by Misha Mansoor) to your songwriting bag of tricks to open up new possibilities!
    Get Modern & Massive: getgooddrums.com
    ABOUT MODERN & MASSIVE:
    From radio rock to thrash metal and everything in between, Modern & Massive has you covered. Huge sounding drums, with tonnes of punch and low end.
    A welcome addition to any sample collection:
    -Modern & Massive is a Player Library (with full NKS integration) and can be used with Kontakt’s Free Player - no need to buy the full version of Kontakt to use GGD!
    -A fully-featured and intuitive UI for creating your drum tones
    -Built-in Groove player
    -Built-in processing and a reverb which we think is perfect for drums
    -Cymbal and snare bleed matrix
    -Nine snares, six kicks, fourteen toms and ten cymbals from a range of drum manufacturers
    -The entire kit is tuned to perfection, so you’ll never be fighting against sour notes in your mix
    -Every sample is phase-coherent for easy layering
    -Whether you’re sketching out a song idea or working on a final mix, Modern & Massive gives you all the tools you need to bring your ideas to life.

Komentáře • 164

  • @GetGoodDrums
    @GetGoodDrums  Před 5 lety +167

    Who's gonna try this next time they sit down to write a song??

    • @joakimcarli8458
      @joakimcarli8458 Před 5 lety +4

      dis boy

    • @lennartbellemann
      @lennartbellemann Před 5 lety +2

      Would you be nice enough to let us know how you got that tone out of your jst plugin ?

    • @hectorsoulless
      @hectorsoulless Před 5 lety +1

      Right here!!

    • @mudmike
      @mudmike Před 5 lety

      Just starting out with GGD and Cubase but man these are some cool and very helpful tricks to play around with. Thanks !

    • @skinnyjimmy22
      @skinnyjimmy22 Před 5 lety

      meee

  • @DarkItachi1
    @DarkItachi1 Před 5 lety +84

    we need more of this
    Misha Drum Programming tutorials all day every day

  • @KS-ld7zs
    @KS-ld7zs Před 5 lety +23

    Veil of Maya's Eclipse, especially the title track, is a fantastic example of this in practice. They are constantly changing the feel of the song by playing with the drumming.

  • @DacianGradaMusic
    @DacianGradaMusic Před 5 lety +109

    I'd watch Misha tutorials all day everyday.

  • @LindbergProductions
    @LindbergProductions Před 5 lety +136

    Mishuggah

  • @megustale69
    @megustale69 Před 5 lety +61

    10.69/10, will buy ggd as a stocking stuffer for the whole family this Christmas.
    But for real this is why periphery has such a loyal fanbase. even though this is essentially an advertisement it's genuine and educational to the home recording folks. cheers

  • @hectorsoulless
    @hectorsoulless Před 5 lety +17

    As a non-drummer who programs the drums for my band, this is awesome!

  • @dakotahrivers6640
    @dakotahrivers6640 Před 4 lety +5

    Honestly, Misha seems like one of the most genuine dudes. All over youtube i see him sharing his knowledge and experience to help the bedroom metal community in making better music. He puts so much effort into teaching people and never tries to make a dime off of it. Thanks Misha, you're the best

    • @utfan971
      @utfan971 Před 3 lety

      If I recall correctly, Periphery itself started out as a bedroom production project, so Misha knows first hand the stuff we deal with.

  • @demondrive147
    @demondrive147 Před 5 lety +22

    2:45 those ghost notes are like a gentle quiet blastbeats

  • @AleKiefer95
    @AleKiefer95 Před 5 lety +23

    Making an ad with tutorials, best way to promotion your plugins! this video is so useful as always, thanks for the lesson Misha! great sounding

  • @qanderson
    @qanderson Před 3 lety +1

    It's sweet to see this turned out to be Parabolica!

  • @kylegrossi8175
    @kylegrossi8175 Před 5 lety

    these videos are always helpful and inspiring.

  • @reiniervanzwieten7092
    @reiniervanzwieten7092 Před 5 lety +48

    WHY IS MISHA WEARING THE RAMENS SHIRT AND NOT MARK HOLCOMB IN WHAT UNIVERSE AM I?

  • @jonnyreid7823
    @jonnyreid7823 Před 5 lety +2

    Glorious. Thanks man! I always enjoy your videos. I just did the professional cross grade from logic to QBase and I must say, you’re absolutely right about the drum editor. Just an absolute pleasure to work with.

  • @jonathanandersson4003
    @jonathanandersson4003 Před 5 lety

    A very good example of this is the intro of Absolomb and the breakdown of it. Same accents but completely different context and feel. Great work!

  • @awake2xenator
    @awake2xenator Před 5 lety

    absolutely awesome, thanks for those examples, that help too much

  • @sunnymittal1906
    @sunnymittal1906 Před 2 lety

    I love listening to Misha and Nolly talk music and production. Such helpful and talented people giving us lifetimes of information for free.

  • @oliverknaupp976
    @oliverknaupp976 Před 11 měsíci

    Bro...please make more drum programming Videos! It is amazing! Love it!❤

  • @stijnbos7614
    @stijnbos7614 Před 5 lety +1

    This was awesome Misha, would be awesome to see more of these!

  • @JessyWessy_
    @JessyWessy_ Před 5 lety +3

    I never knew Misha tutorials was all I ever needed. mMooOoRRReeE

  • @andromeda6463
    @andromeda6463 Před 5 lety

    The top quality drum editing and your epic guitar abilities have nothing on your truely high kwality Imovie skills. I simply cannot comprehend how someone can be so talented.

  • @fredrickhitchcock7475
    @fredrickhitchcock7475 Před 5 lety +5

    2:10 "Less is more. That is impossible, more is more" (Quote: Yngwie Malmsteen)

  • @ph0kused
    @ph0kused Před 5 lety

    misha production demos or gear demos are my new favorite thing.

  • @nortongartino4602
    @nortongartino4602 Před 5 lety

    Great video!

  • @justin_gosselin
    @justin_gosselin Před 5 lety +1

    I've found that randomizing the velocity of your drum hits (within a given range that's section appropriate) goes a long way with making things sound more human - especially if you like to layer drum samples. Great video guys!

  • @pascalolejnik7347
    @pascalolejnik7347 Před 5 lety +1

    very cool ideas !

  • @frankjager1647
    @frankjager1647 Před 5 lety

    I know it's been said to you about a thousand times in recent memory, but I truly believe you're just as good of a teacher as you are anything else. It's very obvious that you aren't faking your passion for songwriting, and that translates incredibly well into how you go about sharing what it is you do. Please stick with this, you're doing GREAT.

  • @norbertbalaz5281
    @norbertbalaz5281 Před 5 lety +2

    Awesome! Thank you for your advices on programming drums - me, i am only playing guitar, so i have no clue how to write good drums :D

  • @troyclemens
    @troyclemens Před 5 lety

    Thank you Misha I appreciate you

  • @Chord_The_Seeker
    @Chord_The_Seeker Před 5 lety +1

    Misha is such a great guy. He is very straightforward and honest, and willing to share all of his knowledge. I went to a clinic he gave at Sam Ash in St. Petersburg, FL, and he was so humble and open that it made it a really great experience.

  • @tylorkenniston1192
    @tylorkenniston1192 Před 4 lety

    Hey you, guitar guy! It’s me, Misha from Periphery!

  • @drphalanges1520
    @drphalanges1520 Před 4 lety

    This is fucking GOLD. I just got my Getgood Halpern kit and I'm doing this as soon as I get home.

  • @plateusigmaband4912
    @plateusigmaband4912 Před 5 lety +3

    please do more of this videos please sooooo goood ! thanks a lot

  • @lukas5022
    @lukas5022 Před 5 lety

    The toms section at 11:35 reminds me so much of the diablo 1 and 2 soundtracks i love it so much

  • @chriscompton7493
    @chriscompton7493 Před 5 lety +1

    Misha - "This doesn't necessarily sound good".... Me - "Crying tears of musical bliss"

  • @kenanatkinson7335
    @kenanatkinson7335 Před 2 lety

    The fact that this became Parabolica makes me happy 😊

  • @TheSkeletonSkier
    @TheSkeletonSkier Před 3 lety +2

    His demo sounds better than my final mixes!

  • @jordynentwisle7742
    @jordynentwisle7742 Před 3 lety +3

    Haha, thought I recognised Parabolica from somewhere!

  • @carlasker9285
    @carlasker9285 Před 2 lety

    I totally agree with Misha on this. Rhythm guitars in metal are very percussive and should be aligned with the kick drum. They benefit from each other. Without making it sounding too industrial and artificial, you can actually make yourself (as a home studio producer) sound like a really good band.

  • @NyuuPhyllo
    @NyuuPhyllo Před 5 lety +1

    As a drummer who programs a lot of drums in my band, I like sometimes to NOT put the kick drum at the same time as the guitars and play a bit with the duality between guitars rhythm and kick drum rhythm. I think you can get very nice things with this idea sometimes, that can still be very heavy. Really depends on what you want and what you need.

  • @maxmustermann-hf7vw
    @maxmustermann-hf7vw Před 5 lety +5

    2:25 *Wether its on the drum side, or how you play it on the, aehm, instrument side*

  • @drkhrs_
    @drkhrs_ Před 3 lety +3

    Who knew this would be “Parabolica”

  • @darrenbrowndrums
    @darrenbrowndrums Před 5 lety

    The power of motif!!👍

  •  Před 5 lety

    I wanted to listen to the whole thing!

  • @alexoday5224
    @alexoday5224 Před 5 lety +4

    Discuss metric modulation (I think that’s the correct term). My band has a song that bounces back n forth from 132 and 99bpm, because 8th triplets in 132 is equivalent to straight 16ths in 99. Discovering that opened up a ton of doors for our writing.

    • @abuventertainment2856
      @abuventertainment2856 Před 5 lety

      thats trippy stuff, where can I hear that song?

    • @alexoday5224
      @alexoday5224 Před 5 lety

      Abuv Entertainment you can browse my channel, in the upcoming material playlist. They’re just rehearsal videos we put out. We’re currently waiting for final mixes to come back from the studio

    • @solarnewborn
      @solarnewborn Před 5 lety

      I got very excited when I found that out. However I tend not to oversaturate my music with it when I'm writing because I'm worried my drummer won't be able to pull it off xD

  • @DaveSteele07
    @DaveSteele07 Před 5 lety

    I used to wonder how come tv hasn’t produced something like this in pretty much all of it’s history!! I used to dream about watching how people recorded tunes!

  • @OGM_OriginalGameMusic
    @OGM_OriginalGameMusic Před 5 lety

    I call this musical seasoning! It's not elegant but I understand what I'm talking about! XD. Yeah this is something i've just started to do. For some reasons its requires a bit of confidence for me to do. I had to build myself up for some reason

  • @marshalltudhope6293
    @marshalltudhope6293 Před 5 lety

    Greatest metal band in Kick Drum history

  • @wizmos74
    @wizmos74 Před 5 lety

    Great tips Misha,thanks a lot for that,Q what i've heard your kick follow your guitar i'ts that correct?

  • @stevelouth7011
    @stevelouth7011 Před 5 lety

    I wander if in the future a built in drum editor is possible in the GGD software would be awesome !!!!!! Great tutorial !!!!!

  • @SelkeMusic
    @SelkeMusic Před 5 lety

    Aside from these helpful tips, I learned Misha likes to play around with stuff

  • @LeeMcKinney
    @LeeMcKinney Před 5 lety +1

    Holy shit I watched this for TOO long before I realized it's a RAMEN SHIRT! haha Love it.

  • @michaelbennett8981
    @michaelbennett8981 Před 4 lety

    Misha Manssor is a legend! Every video I see is top quality! Does anyone know if the drums are played to the grid (perfectly quantised) - it doesn't sound too mechanical, and has a convincing feel. I don't own Cubase or GetGoodDrums, but I own BFD3, SD2, Studio Drummer, Abbey Road Drums via Logic X. i wished I could get great sounding drums/feel, but my results aren't as natural sounding as in this video. Thanks in advance!

  • @01left
    @01left Před 5 lety

    @Misha i need a tutorial about your Bass Tone please help us!! How did you record it? Directly to J48 or Axe Fx? And how did you Mixed it? Thanks

  • @Scias
    @Scias Před 5 lety +2

    Hey guys Misha here, today I'd like to show you how I program my drums and make them djent like really hard, in this tutorial video I've made in between the episodes of Boku No Piku I watch on my time off

  • @lizziedanger4271
    @lizziedanger4271 Před 5 lety +1

    Question. Does GGD come with the drum kit itself that you can just load into logic and have the onboard drummer "drum" but with the GGD sound pack?
    In other words, is this software limited to us writing the drum lines ourselves or is it a loadable kit that can be used via computer drumming?

  • @JwOhEight
    @JwOhEight Před 3 lety

    Parabolica!

  • @DestroyingTheDevoid
    @DestroyingTheDevoid Před 5 lety

    This is great! Very helpful advice. What parts of the GGD Modern & massive kit are you using? Would be cool to see your selection of kit pieces Kick, Snare, Tomes etc. You should do a GGD M&M mixing tutorial! Thanks!

    • @GetGoodDrums
      @GetGoodDrums  Před 5 lety +1

      We have several mixing tutorials, give them a look!

  • @jacek.strzelczyk
    @jacek.strzelczyk Před 5 lety

    I have GGD both versions and I can’t make your „goto preset” sound. :-( Even with „boost” function.

  • @oranstakeover8981
    @oranstakeover8981 Před 5 lety

    Badass video! How about a snare mixing tutorial? In every demo/tutorial of yours im always amazed by the snare sounds, ive figured its M&M high tuned bell snare, but id love to know your mixing chain!

    • @GetGoodDrums
      @GetGoodDrums  Před 5 lety +5

      Coming soon!

    • @scottydogg278
      @scottydogg278 Před 5 lety +2

      I'd recommend checking out the Periphery Studio Pass on Creative Live - Nolly goes through mixing a track and he's a beast

    • @oranstakeover8981
      @oranstakeover8981 Před 5 lety +2

      @@scottydogg278 yeah im gonna check that out! Everything nolly does is freaking mind blowing!

  • @chrisdaviesguitar
    @chrisdaviesguitar Před 2 lety

    Very useful for us noobs. Thank you.

  • @CHEMICALFINGERPRINT1
    @CHEMICALFINGERPRINT1 Před 5 lety

    Where do I find pedal chick on getgood drums?

  • @eskilseter
    @eskilseter Před 5 lety

    How can I get my hands on a MIDI editor like that for drum programming? The default Cubase piano key layout is amazingly frustrating to work with. Is it a GGD editor, or can I get something like that as a plugin somewhere?

    • @GetGoodDrums
      @GetGoodDrums  Před 5 lety +1

      Pretty much every daw has something like this - i dont use cubase so im not sure what this editor is called but i know its just part of the stock daw like hyper editor is in logic. The piano roll is pain!

  • @kinofux
    @kinofux Před 5 lety

    How do you program drums

  • @691High
    @691High Před 5 lety

    any chance of passing on the midi file? thanks

  • @VVVY777
    @VVVY777 Před 5 lety +2

    Are the drums heavily processed? Would really want to learn about the drum sound he got with M&M. Sell us the preset or session??

    • @ezassegai4793
      @ezassegai4793 Před 5 lety +1

      yes the drums do have lots of processing as well as probably some sample layering and parallel compression

  • @patriksaagim
    @patriksaagim Před 5 lety +1

    Is this P4?

  • @MCYoshii
    @MCYoshii Před 5 lety

    wait... was the intro greenscreened??

  • @jared338
    @jared338 Před 5 lety

    I demand a Misha comedy hour!

  • @holtpreston8359
    @holtpreston8359 Před 5 lety

    Can I get this Cubase template?

  • @SamuelWalker11
    @SamuelWalker11 Před 5 lety +1

    Can misha do video starting from scratch programming drums? Would love to see that

    • @GetGoodDrums
      @GetGoodDrums  Před 5 lety +1

      He did a few programming videos on this channel!

    • @SamuelWalker11
      @SamuelWalker11 Před 5 lety +1

      GetGood Drums thanks! I’ll check it out

  • @speedyleedy3828
    @speedyleedy3828 Před 5 lety

    Maybe a dumb question, What program is he using to actually program the drums in?

  • @steph1176
    @steph1176 Před 5 lety +3

    I just wanted to hear it played all the way through once.

  • @johnstitt2615
    @johnstitt2615 Před 5 lety

    Perhaps you could do 60’s and 70’s drum style samples and call it the Get Groovy Drum Pack. ✌️🤓

  • @GTORT
    @GTORT Před 5 lety

    where can I get that shirt though

  • @JohnHartmanMortalDecay
    @JohnHartmanMortalDecay Před 5 lety +6

    Feel Ramens

  • @christophermcclelland1556

    How do you adjust those velocities all at one time? I've been using cubase for 2 years and I still don't know how to do that...

    • @SelcraigClimbs
      @SelcraigClimbs Před 5 lety +1

      Likely done by holding control and selecting the midi. This should highlight them all and then if you change the velocity bar of one, they all change at together.
      This works in reaper and should work in any DAW

    • @christophermcclelland1556
      @christophermcclelland1556 Před 5 lety

      @@SelcraigClimbs thank you sir. I will give this a try

  • @gripphillips
    @gripphillips Před 4 lety

    Is that drummer software really have a sequencer in it or is that a different vst

  • @user-lb1ih2hh7m
    @user-lb1ih2hh7m Před 5 lety

    What is this headphone?

  • @zetsu3072
    @zetsu3072 Před 5 lety

    That tatsu ya shirt tho!

  • @chrisdaviesguitar
    @chrisdaviesguitar Před 3 lety

    Sorry, noob question - what's a ghost note?

  • @SuperWestGhost
    @SuperWestGhost Před 3 lety

    How in the bloody everloving fuck did you quick select every alternating hit to move the velocity down like that @ 6:47?

  • @kyfisher3662
    @kyfisher3662 Před 5 lety

    wish there was a way to edit the drums while in track view all lined up instead of having to enter the midi track

    • @Awezomenis5150
      @Awezomenis5150 Před 5 lety +1

      Cubase has that ability. You can have a split of the tracks on top and the midi editor on the lower half. You can adjust how much of each but never actually have to leave either screen.

    • @kyfisher3662
      @kyfisher3662 Před 5 lety

      awesome, thanks man! :D@@Awezomenis5150

  • @dylanloera7783
    @dylanloera7783 Před 5 lety

    Great video! I like what you say at the end, because allot of metal bands have that problem especially in the tech death scene. Where the song is essentially just a slew of a bunch of really tight riffs, but the song never calls back to a idea; it is just a song filled with ideas that happen to work together, but how many of those ideas as a listener can you really remember? Allot of metal bands would really learn allot if they listened to Above and Beyond, and Anjunabeats and how they structure their ideas; and essentially take a 16bar loop and create a whole 6minute song out of it, that varies through out. Same thing as Pantera, they really understood the more simple the song structure, the greater experience the average listener will achieve.

  • @easton_ography
    @easton_ography Před 5 lety

    9:31 I'm officially referring to this as Meesh-Mashing from now on

  • @m4ssee
    @m4ssee Před 5 lety +1

    This would be helpful if only I could get the volume balance right. Everytime I try to do some post-processing for the drums, all the ghost notes end up sounding just as loud as the full hits no matter how low I put the velocity and if I just use the out of box sounds without any post-processing, the drums just end up sounding too dry. So some basic drum mixing tips would be more than welcome. Or then just release an "EzGGD" for us noobs with fully mixed out of box sounds.

    • @GetGoodDrums
      @GetGoodDrums  Před 5 lety

      Try some volune automation!

    • @BrofUJu
      @BrofUJu Před 5 lety

      Probably need a happy medium on your compression/limiting too. Gets it slamming but also kills dynamics.

  • @RLDWEBER
    @RLDWEBER Před 5 lety

    ...dude can we get a short video demonstrating keyboard shortcuts and all the things you do to get through editing so fast?

  • @johnerickmarzo7278
    @johnerickmarzo7278 Před 5 lety

    DO I need to record my guitar first or drum?

    • @michaelmiller8871
      @michaelmiller8871 Před 4 lety

      Drums are better to do. Then your guitar has something to follow. It just helps with accenting.

    • @burneraccounthandle
      @burneraccounthandle Před rokem

      @@michaelmiller8871backwards

  • @mateoduarteparedes2609
    @mateoduarteparedes2609 Před 3 lety +2

    Pov: you see this video after watching Misha's new song

  • @itsjustme1034
    @itsjustme1034 Před 5 lety

    Do you use an all in one PC

  • @ARC_Projects
    @ARC_Projects Před 5 lety

    9:28 you could call it a Misha Mansoor Mish Mash

  • @oatandjam
    @oatandjam Před rokem

    14:25 sounds a bit like Atropos

  • @lfox02
    @lfox02 Před 5 lety

    Ye mind if I steal this riff?

  • @deadeyes2803
    @deadeyes2803 Před 5 lety

    misha mansoor, the arin hanson of djent

  • @Allthewrongkeys821
    @Allthewrongkeys821 Před 4 lety

    LOOK AT ME! I’M MR. MISHASEEKS!

  • @thebigmacblue
    @thebigmacblue Před 5 lety

    T-Shirt saws please

  • @mjKlaim
    @mjKlaim Před 5 lety

    I want that T-shirt.

  • @reaperxdarkx4161
    @reaperxdarkx4161 Před 2 měsíci

    This became Parabolica

  • @Jinx-iw6zb
    @Jinx-iw6zb Před 5 lety

    Isn't that Mark's T-shirt?

  • @ayusharipirala3121
    @ayusharipirala3121 Před 4 lety

    New riffs are...
    A bad thing?