Their queen died and then they murdered the new one Now what?
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With the ending of last weeks video, link below in case you missed it, ending without the normal details of what we removed or what the plan was with the bees, I decided to do a follow up, or rather a pick up of where we left off. Needless to say, it was not the way I had hoped it would have turned out. Let me know what you think. Thanks for watching. God's peace to all. Mr. Ed
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Blimey, that was a rollercoaster ride! What a shame for both Queens. I hope those girls crack on with an emergency cell now, and I look forward to you keeping us updated on how they get on.
As it is very often, bees will keep you guessing at all times as they are 10 steps ahead of you at every turn. Get ready for next week's video when I show you what other surprises these girls had in store for me. Thanks for watching, and until next time, God's peace Suzanne.
Mr. Ed
And this is why i never buy queens anymore. Let them raise their own queens via brood. Not worth the headache and money feeding a colony all the queens.
I have to agree with you on that one. Thanks for watching. God's peace.
Mr. Ed
Awww…too bad about losing the queens 😕 Hope the girls will make a new one. Blessings, my friend 🙏💕😊
As always, thank you very much for your blessings, and make sure you check out next week's video, I know you will, and you will see for yourself what other surprises these bees had in store for me. God's peace.
Mr. Ed
I never thought of using rubber bands. I'm going to have to try that.
I've been using rubber bands to hold comb in the frames since I began doing removals over 16 years ago. Now, I use the 7 inch rubber bands and criss cross the frames making the attachment so much easier. When you try it you are going to love it. By the way, I get the rubber bands off of Amazon. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my over 600 bee wrangling/ bee rescue adventure videos and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace brother.
Mr. Ed
That was a really fascinating video. Very sad to have lost both queens and hope that the colony gets sorted soon. Always compulsive viewing. God bless and thank you Mr. Ed.
Thank you so much for your blessings and for watching, I really do appreciated it. Also, get ready for next week's post, another follow up video from these bees and the continued surprises they give me. God's peace Mary.
Mr. Ed
Noooooo "trade off", the lesser of the eeeeeeevils! 😱😁👍👍🇺🇲
Most of the balling I witnessed come with the bees stinging the bee. Even 1 sting is enough to kill a queen... Have it happen to me a couple times before.
I merge colonies a couple times per year because for a couple of years I have been breeding purebred Buckfast bees. Small boxes that return from the islands stand no chance next to my large hives, So I merge asap to make them bigger. The best result I get is when I use an arrest frame, only 1 queen being replaced from 16 total so far and counting. How my method looks like:
You take an old frame, remove the wiring from it and wax. You staple iron mesh over to cover 1 side. Repeat this for another frame, you now have 2 sides. Remove the ears. Place a 3rd frame in the middle and staple some iron mesh again on the outside frames at the bottom side. Now you have to frames together, you have the arrest frame. You can remove the frame from the middle. You can staple some iron mesh over the top on 1 frame to make a lock out of it.
Take out an hatching frame out of a hive. Knock off all the bees and ensure 100% it is free from bees. Place this hatching frame in the middle of the arrest frame and after this is done catch your queen, place her on the hatching frame. Make sure no robber bees in the meantime landed on your hatching frame. Close up the frame and place it for 1 week in a hive with young bees. From the moment you place the bees in, start heavy feeding of 1:1 sirup. After 1 week the queen is laying up all the hatched-out cells and she gets take care of by the young bees. After a week there is enough feromone for her to get accepted. Only had once where the queen was no laying after a week, decided to release her and she was killed.
Other option is:
If you have a small hive and want to merge the queenright small hive with a larger hive: Put a newspaper between both hives. Feed heavy with sugar water. For some reason, bees get more relaxed if you feed them
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and for taking the time to watch the video, it is greatly appreciated. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace Rogier.
Mr. Ed
Man the life of a bee !!! I have a colony that lost its queen for whatever reason so I introduced one that I had grafted and waited the 3 days before releasing her and they rejected her also …so today I will try again .. maybe I’ll load them up with some sugar water and see if that helps ..thanks again for the great videos mr Ed !!!
Just when we think we have the bees figured out, they throw us a zinger. Still, it beekeeping, keep learning and growing with the bees. Thanks for watching. God's peace Lynn.
Mr. Ed
Mr Ed, I think results like this is why Mike always says “this is not a how to video”! I don’t think Mike wants anyone to have bad results because of what he does if it doesn’t work for any of his viewers. I’m hate that you lost your queens! I’ve had one hive that lost 2 queens lately myself. Hopefully, your colony will make another queen and it gets mated successfully. Thanks for the video!
Funny you should mention World Famous Mike Barry, I talk about him in next week's video about what was going on. So, make sure you tune in next week, and I know you will, as find out what happens next. God's peace Don.
Mr. Ed
Good morning, Mr. Ed, This was another entertaining video. Mr. Ed, we can't wait till next friday! Its September to day and is gonna be a beautiful one ! You have a wonderful week with Ms. Queen bee Mona
Thank you Dr. Bruce, always a pleasure hearing from you. September is my favorite month, my birthday is on the 7th and our anniversary is on the 13th. Ms. Queen Bee and I plan on celebrating both of them in a very special way, by ourselves in a remote location. But don't worry, I already have next week's video ready to go. Thanks for watching. God's peace.
Mr. Ed
@JeffHorchoff Hey, that sounds like a wonderful starting of the month, and I bet another wonderful married year, too. You kids have an awesome time!!
Mother Nature is a beautiful thing, but sometimes it is so hard to understand. So sad what happened. Love what you do and thanks for sharing.♥️👍🏼🙏
An unfortunate happening for sure, but the bees have their reasons.Stay tuned for next week's post, another follow up with even more surprises. Thanks for watching. God's peace Steve.
Mr. Ed
The derth is a hard time to get bees to accept a new queen. The best results I've had is using a push in cage. I try to
Place it over emerging brood with some empty cells for her to lay in, and some honey. I leave her under the cage for at least 7 to 10 days. My success rate is usually greater than 90%. Enjoyed the video and God bless.
If you check out next week's video, you will see that even a push in cage would not have saved the new queen. Let me know what you think. Thanks for watching. God's peace James.
Mr. Ed
the sound of the bees is very calming and peaceful to me, thanks for adding it to the end. thank you for all that you do.
I'm in total agreement, the sound and sight of bees flying is very soothing to me as well. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace.
Mr. Ed
A murder mystery at the Abbey!!! Thank you Jeff.
No mystery here, the bees done it! The dirty rats! Thanks for watching. God's peace Chelsea.
Mr. Ed
A single sheet of newspaper between the two colonies works fine. However, the queenless one needs to be queenless for at least several days, to allow the scent to dissipate. So you can box up the framed brood from the cutout, toss the buckets back in and let it rest next to you donar. Then combine them. It's pretty much a walk away for a full day, then open and find the paper chewed thru and all is fine. Works every time. Gives each time to sniff the other.
Yes, it does work, but if the bees had already started making emergency cells like the had done in this video and not to my knowledge, they will not accept another queen no matter how many layers of paper you place between them. Thanks for watching. God's peace brother.
Mr. Ed
Yes, very sad thing when the original queen died and then the merging queen gets attacked. I can't wait to see if the bee's make a new queen cell!! God Bless.
Next week's video will show you exactly what you want to see. Get ready for a surprise. Thank you for your blessings and for watching. God's peace Philo.
Mr. Ed
It’s always an adventure. Thanks for the video. Take care and God bless.
Them bees always keep me guessing.....and building up my frustration level. Thank you for your blessings and for watching. Until the next one, God's peace Garry.
Mr. Ed
Interesting. The only experience I have with merging bees together is by using the newspaper method. It always worked for me and never lost a queen. I never had my queen in a cage either. Her girls could protect her while the other bees slowly merged together. The did merge well from what you did.
Make sure you check out next weeks post, the bees had a few more surprises in store for me. Thanks for watching. God's peace brother.
Mr. Ed
I find that colonies will blame their queen if there are poor crops or lack of stores, kill her and replace her. I wonder if part of the issue was that they were upset about the cutout (of course!), got into the new hive and saw minimal stores, and killed her because they were unhappy? Bees can be fickle critters! Of course there is always that hindsight and "what if's", that's what makes beekeeping so so so interesting!
Now you are going to have to check out next week's video to find out the real reason for the bees behavior, those girls had more surprises in store for me. Thanks for watching. God's peace brother.
Mr. Ed
Professor Ed, I loved the video. Please do a follow up or at least tell us how the colony faired. TY, peace.
Stay tuned for next week's post, another follow up with even more surprises. Thanks for watching. God's peace Bran.
Professor Ed
I remember seeing on television how a special kind of queen bee cage with a door made out of sugar blocking passage between the queen and the colony is used such that all the bees are so busy trying to execute her that they have to eat away at the sugar door, and it takes two weeks to break through, which is enough time for the bees to adjust to her pheromones.
The cages that use sugar to prevent the queen from escaping and other bees from entering the cage are called sugar plug cages, and they are very effective when introducing a new queen to a colony as it gives the bees a chance to acquaint themselves with the new queen's pheromone. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace Stephen.
Mr. Ed
It’s only rained a 1/2” here in my area of Texas over 3 months. Grass is dead and trees have shed most of their leaves. I lost my entire pecan crop because of no rainfall. I’ll be watering trees most of the day today. I lost about 20 young trees this year.
You poor folks in Texas have really gotten hit hard by this drought, I'm so sorry to hear it is hard for you and everyone else over there. God's peace James.
Mr. Ed
Dutchsince recommended and I had a friend who was a Master Bee Keeper! So fascinating out here in Area outside of Portland Oregon… love the whole bee life cycle - sad to hear the challenges you take on with a positive realistic attitude to make things right 👏👍🕊🌞☮️🔑✨ so interesting and helps to understand Mother Nature’s way thanks again Jeff!
My passion for bees is the driving force behind everything I do with bees. Even when challenges arise, I am not put off and will try my best to make things work out for them. Being a beekeeper is one of my main joys in life, and I thank you for wanting to follow along with my adventures.Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace Denise.
Mr. Ed
I watch Dutchsince now and then, really interesting dude.
Mr Ed, I watch most of your videos.... only, I tend to binge watch and it might be months before I watch them (I'm up in Canada, so they aren't really relevant) and you get so many comments, I don't want to repeat something someone has already said. I fell into Randy's videos a few years back and... he wasn't wearing a suit! I started watching him, as I'd love to have a beehive... but like you, I'd be suited up and more... but he's got me convinced, that with the right queen, and slow, careful movements ( no squished bees), I wouldn't have to. He's the one that turned me on to you. I love the friendly banter between the both of you. This video topped my feed so I watched it immediately. It was that bold yellow jacket that landed right in the middle of the bucket that drove me to comment. I've heard you say you've killed nests but I've not seen a video of one being taken out so I haven't thought you destroyed many... that's alright as I'm tuning in for the bees! It's just that yellow jackets are so 'in your face' this time of year and my new service dog hates everything with wings! She's going to get stung if she snaps her jaws on one of them! I've had to drag her away from several as she is determined to save me from them... I have to love her for it... but...
WellGeorge, you will bee happy to hear that I have a great distain, almost hatred, for yellow jackets, and I will often go out of my way to kill them, or even better yet, destroy a colony of them. In fact, 2 weeks ago I killed a colony that was in the ground, and after killing them with about 1/2 gallon of gas that I poured down their entrance, I dug up the next to make sure it was dead. It was larger than a basketball, man did I feel good, I bet I killed over a thousand of them. And talking about wearing a suit, I always wear my suit when killing yellow jacket colonies, those sucker can sting multiple time as bite at the same time. They just need to die! Thank you so much for taking the time to watch my videos when you can, it is greatly appreciated. God's peace brother.
Mr. Ed
Hi Jeff. It's September today !! It's 57F here in Montreal right now at 7:40am. Is there a fear those bees might swarm out of that box at some point, or do you think they will stay?? I guess, if they haven't already wanted to "Bug Out" they would have, right? I know Mr. Green Jeans over at Fall Line Ridge lost some of his queens, and he ordered a few "Queens" to add back to his queen-less hives. He did not have a store of queen cells to bank on. Hope it works out.
Great hearing from you again Jeremy, it's been a while. And as far as how it all works out, make sure you check out next week's video and you will see for yourself what other surprises these bees had in store for me. Thanks for watching. God's peace brother.
Mr. Ed
I was gonna say till I saw the captions. I've never seen an acceptance like that.
Stay tuned for next week's post, another follow up with even more surprises. Thanks for watching. God's peace Scott.
Mr. Ed
you can hear them being angry...they don't sound happy
With good reason, they had just been removed and relocated from their home to a new location, video link below, they were queen less, and I had just merged them with another colony. Still, they managed to calm down and are doing fine now. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace.
Mr. Ed
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I saw a beekeeper merge two colonies by place newspaper between the two boxes and it worked out.
Using newspaper works very well to merge 2 colonies, but the merging of these two colonies was not the problem, it worked just fine. The problem was getting them to accept the new queen. As it turned out, check out next weeks video as find out what surprise the bees had in store for me.Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace.
Mr. Ed
no wonder them girls were HOT, feeding them 89 octane unleaded like that, lol! Smoking! Great job Mr. Ed. I had a hive last week that started pumping out swarms; they lost their queen (2 year old), instead of replacing they went nuts. 6 frames queen of cells, ugh
We will NEVER understand bees totally, they will always keep us guessing and scratching our heads. Thanks for watching. God's peace.
Mr. Ed
Thanks for the video. Gods blessings
You are very welcome, and thank you for your blessings and for watching. Util the next one, God's peace.
Mr. Ed
Dang it, I hate when that happens.
Makes your stomach turn over to see it....especially right when it is happening. Stay tuned for next week's post, another follow up video with these bees and even more surprises. Thanks for watching. God's peace Tommy.
Mr. Ed
They do that sometimes. When it's early enough in the year, I will give them a frame of fresh eggs from another hive and let them make a new queen. Where I live, you can do that up until early July.
This late in the year, I just combine them with another hive or - when it's not a very strong hive - I just let the hive die (and I harvest any honey and wax).
I learned through the years, sometimes a hive is a lost cause and it's not worth trying to save them.
I do use the "newspaper method" when I have to combine a lot of bees.
When trying to come up with a solution for getting the bees from the removal into a hive after their queen died, my first consideration was needing to do it a quickly as possible. After bees are removed from a structure they are VERY stressed, and the of resumption the daily duties of the bees is the quickest way of restoring tranquility in the hive and the removal of stress. For that reason I chose to cage the queen from the hive I would use to merge the two colonies and simply dump the removal bees bees in mass into the hive. No smoke, no paper, just an overwhelming number of new bees into a hive that was already established with their queen caged so as the new bees could not harm her. As it turned out, the merge went flawlessly with little or no loss due to fighting. The problem arose when I released the queen and she was killed. When that happened I was surprised as I truly thought that by the bees behavior they would have accepted her as their queen as well. However, to discover what had happened, unbeknownst to me at the time, you will have to check out next weeks video and see for yourself. Thanks for watching. God's peace Gordon.
Mr. Ed
So nice to get to go to daily Mass so close by!! 😊
I totally agree, and I've been attending daily mass at the abbey now for over 13 years. Plus, I'm blessed to be able to pray with the monks each and every morning as well. I'm living the dream. Thanks for watching. God's peace.
Mr. Ed
When will the funeral for the QUEEN BEEEE! 😱😁😝🤣🤪👍👍🇺🇲
It's a good thing I work in the casket shop as well, we made a custom casket just her size the next day. Thanks for watching. God's peace Terry.
Mr. Ed
thanks Jeff
And thank you Dan for taking the time to watch and leave your comment. Until the next one, God's peace brother.
Mr. Ed
Thank you Jeff
Mr.Ed, Mother Nature at work! Don't worry BEE HAPPY !! 🐝🐝🐝
After next weeks post I was, so make sure you check out the next surprise these bees handed me. Thanks for watching. God's peace Ron.
Mr. Ed
Just a wee note on the beginning where your bees are working hard to clean up the equipment you used to steal honey from them... I'd be tempted to hover over it with a pair of scissors to snip those bold yellow jackets to bits! They are rearing their queens now .... help your bees out... cut back on their numbers any way you can...
Yellow jackets are on the top of my kill list, and every chance I get to kill a colony of them I take it. Last week I killed a nest and dug it up, it was bigger than a basketball. Man that was a great day! Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace George.
Mr. Ed
Very sad about the loss of both Queens Mr. Ed! Perhaps more so of the Queen of the cutout that you two wroked so hard to finish. This is a video of why I so enjoy following you and a couple other bee farmers. Great explanation of your thoughts and procedures. Of course I am looking forward to a follow up for a Queen to emerge or be replaced. Hope you have an awesomely enjoyable weekend! -Bob...
Though the queen situation did not work out the way I had hoped, either one of them, the merger worked flawlessly. Stay tuned for next weeks post and you will see for yourself the surprises the bees still had in store for me. Thanks for watching. God's peace.
Mr. Ed
@@JeffHorchoff These are indeed such wonderful little creatures, with their great impact on our food supply, how they frequently can challenge their bee farmers, the deliciousness and variieties of flavorful honey, and educationally enjoyable content to follow and learn with! Happy Labor Day Weekend Mr. Ed! -Bob...
Another great Mr. Ed Bee video
Thanks Jason, it's always great hearing from you and looking forward to seeing you in January. God's peace brother.
Mr. Ed
I was distracted for a moment, and when I looked back Jeff was pouring gasoline into the hive. lol
Good thing I did not have matches with me at the time. Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching. Until the next one, God's peace Rich.
Mr. Ed
man thats some high octane sugar water right there!lol
It's jet fuel to get them really going. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace.
Mr. Ed
Thanks 🙂
You are welcome, and thank you for taking the time to watch the video, it is greatly appreciated. Also, I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace Susan.
Mr. Ed
I bet it was more than 100 degrees inside that closet! Cheers Jeff!
I don't really know what the temp was, but I know it was HOT! Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace brother.
Mr. Ed
We need a update on this one
And you are going to get one. Stay tuned for next week's post, another follow up with even more surprises. Thanks for watching. God's peace.
Mr. Ed
Thanks for sharing
Jeff, I wonder if you would have done better with leaving the queen right hive in their spot. Taken the cut out and put it in a 10 frame on a bottom board with its frames that you banded together. After you dumped them in their 10 frame you could have put newspaper over the queen right hive and then stuck the queen less 10 frame on top.
Possibly, but when trying to come up with a solution for getting the bees from the removal into a hive after their queen died, my first consideration was needing to do it a quickly as possible. After bees are removed from a structure they are VERY stressed, and the of resumption the daily duties of the bees is the quickest way of restoring tranquility in the hive and the removal of stress. For that reason I chose to cage the queen from the hive I would use to merge the two colonies and simply dump the removal bees bees in mass into the hive. No smoke, no paper, just an overwhelming number of new bees into a hive that was already established with their queen caged so as the new bees could not harm her. As it turned out, the merge went flawlessly with little or no loss due to fighting. The problem arose when I released the queen and she was killed. When that happened I was surprised as I truly thought that by the bees behavior they would have accepted her as their queen as well. However, to discover what had happened, unbeknownst to me at the time, you will have to check out next weeks video and see for yourself. Thanks for watching. God's peace Amanda.
Mr. Ed
Next time try a "PUSH" cage with emerging brood inside the cage
I wish I would have had one, it may have worked. I did not even think of it. Thanks for watching and for your suggestion. Stay tuned for next weeks post, another follow up and it has surprises as well. God's peace Daisy.
Mr. Ed
@@JeffHorchoff Now you have time to make a couple of push cages for when you need them. And I would recommend placing the frame with the push cage to the side away from where you dump in the other colony so there is a buffer of her own bees between the queen and the newcomers.
Thank you, Mr. Ed. Great video. Very informative
Always delighted to share my adventures, good ones and bad ones. Thanks so much for watching. Until the next one, God's peace.
Mr. Ed
Please god hope she’s ok god bless
It did not turn out well at all for either one of the queens, but stay tuned for next week's video and see what other surprises these bees had in store for me. God's peace Nola.
Mr. Ed
Fascinating video. I accidentally stumbled upon beekeeping CZcams yesterday and after watching way too many beekeeping videos, I am officially a certified CZcams-trained beekeeping expert. This means I know nothing about beekeeping so I'll ask.
Would smoking the bees ease the introduction of a new queen or the acceptance of new hive members? If smoke eases the aggression caused by hive disturbances like hive removal or honey removal, why wouldn't it ease this aggression?
First, thank you for stumbling across beekeeping on CZcams and especially for watching some of mine. Smoke is a very good tool to use in beekeeping as it masks pheromone and bees lose the ability to communicate. However, the use of it does cause stress to bees, and for that reason it should be used sparingly. That being said, it can be very useful when merging colonies, robbing the hive of honey, and doing removals, but I have never used it to introduce a new queen into the colony as the bees need to adjust to the new queen's pheromone and smoke covers that. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my over 600 bee wrangling/ bee rescue adventure videos and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace brother.
Mr. Ed
@JeffHorchoff I have already liked and subscribed. I've already ran through about 10 of your videos with no intention of stopping. Not only is your content interesting but you come across as a joyful and genuinely good dude. Thank you for being you.
I’ve had honeybees here in Alaska for about 40 years. This is my worst year ever in Alaska the fire weed did not even bloom. I know what you mean, as far as when you have bees and lose some of them especially the queens.
After keeping bees for over 40 years, you have seen a lot, and even now, with the fire weed not blooming and the honey harvest may not even happen, I know you will continue on. My hat goes off to you for all you have endured, and the love you have for bees. God's peace Eric.
Mr. Ed
You should try a pastry knife when you cut the comb!
I'll have to look into that one, thanks for the suggestion and for watching. Until the next one, God's peace.
Mr. Ed
I sure wish my husband and I were able to travel and come meet you and Mona and tour the bee house and the Abby. My husband was raised Catholic, but I am Baptist...and he found God with my spiritual dad who was a Baptist minister and in the church I went to with them and the one I ended up going with a friend to in our neighborhood. I loved it when my husband started wanting to go to church when he saw the positive change it made in me. And the first time the Holy Spirit moved him in church was so amazing! He thought those of us in the little congregation felt the Spirit move and we would be like a wind had blown through and tears and joy all around...freaked him out! He wanted it bad, and he got it! Grabbed my hand and was just in awe with tears streaming down his face. He went to the alter to pray with me that day and on his own even. I miss our church and the church family I had. Our church fell apart when our pastor got arrested...still can't believe what happened with that. Never before or after felt such a strong presence of God moving in a pastor. But he was human with a thorn that cost him dearly. I hope his time in prison helped others come to know Jesus. I too am a sinner and can't throw stones at anyone. Blessings to you and yours~
Our nature is a fallen one, and as we are all sinners, it's best to leave judging to God. Loved hearing your story Loren. God's peace.
Mr. Ed
Hi Jeff, I would think that just putting the new hive on top but separated by a screened board with it's own entrance for a few days should allow the bees to get used to the queen's pheromones, then swap the screen for a sheet of newspaper.
Because the vacuumed bees were not established in a box, it would not have worked. They simply would have absconded the minute I placed them in a box without a queen. Thanks for watching and for your suggestion. God's peace Alan.
Mr. Ed
@@JeffHorchoffYou might be right, I thought they might stay if they had their own brood to look after, I'll be interested to see what you do with them. Blessings.
Oh, sorry about the loss. Let's hope for the best. Nice day
As tragic as it appears, the bees are in control. Stay tuned for next week's post, another follow up with even more surprises. Thanks for watching. God's peace Miriam.
Mr. Ed
@JeffHorchoff God's peace to you too, dear
I am like world famous Mike Berry; here’s how I direct mix colonies. I make sure the colony with the queen is kept in a block with their queen in the center of the block of bees. It has been my experience that the bees will protect their queen from the bees being added until their odors have had a chance to mix or change or whatever they do. That has always worked for me but having said that, it may not the next time I try it!!
I love how you ended your comment, truer words were never spoken. I find that to be very much the case when I'm working bees, in the end, they have the final say so. Thanks for watching. God's peace Bob.
Mr. Ed
Cool Video Mr Ed thanks for sharing
My pleasure, and thanks for taking the time to watch and leave your comment. Also, I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace.
Mr. Ed
Hellooo! Your smile is contagious!😃
I always enjoy sharing my happiness, and my smile does a pretty good job of ding that. Thank you so much for your kind words and for taking the time to watch the video. Also, I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace.
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"The name of the rose" mystery.
Hey Mike, been a while, great hearing from you. Yep, bees will always keep you guessing....and frustrate you at the same time. God's peace brother.
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Well done . Informative 👍👍👍. Thank you for sharing, be safe, 🇨🇦
I wonder if they were making any queen cells as the reason they killed her? Thanks Jeff!
That's exactly what I suspect. You the man Rodney. God's peace brother.
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@@JeffHorchoff I have a forced absconding job tomorrow in a cinder block wall
The bees choose their queen
That’s why there is no assumption 😮
Thanx Mr.Ed 4 all U do 4 our Planet saving Bees
Thank you for your kind words and for taking the time to follow along with my bee wrangling adventures, it is greatly appreciated. God's peace.
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Put them in an empty box, with several layers of paper towels on top and then put a weak hive on top. Give them time to acclimate and join together as a functioning hive.
That is what I would do, your thoughts?
Oh Jeff, ask the DirtRooster what I told him about my queen with a green dot and the green anole.😊😊
When trying to come up with a solution for getting the bees from the removal into a hive after their queen died, my first consideration was needing to do it a quickly as possible. After bees are removed from a structure they are VERY stressed, and the of resumption the daily duties of the bees is the quickest way of restoring tranquility in the hive and the removal of stress. For that reason I chose to cage the queen from the hive I would use to merge the two colonies and simply dump the removal bees bees in mass into the hive. No smoke, no paper, just an overwhelming number of new bees into a hive that was already established with their queen caged so as the new bees could not harm her. As it turned out, the merge went flawlessly with little or no loss due to fighting. The problem arose when I released the queen and she was killed. When that happened I was surprised as I truly thought that by the bees behavior they would have accepted her as their queen as well. However, to discover what had happened, unbeknownst to me at the time, you will have to check out next weeks video and see for yourself. Thanks for watching. God's peace Joey.
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@@JeffHorchoff AWESOME! You saved the hive.
Thank goodness God didn’t make cows pollinators huh?
Or elephants. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace Tony.
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Hi mr Ed. What a session that was. Its like purphy's law.
When it comes to bees, it's always a session. Thanks for watching. God's peace Evan.
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Awesome video Mr Ed. Bees are mysterious creatures. Who knew that they would murder that queen? 🤔
It is not uncommon at all to have bees kill a queen that is trying to be introduce to a queen less hive, I just thought the bees were ready for her.When trying to come up with a solution for getting the bees from the removal into a hive after their queen died, my first consideration was needing to do it as quickly as possible. After bees are removed from a structure they are VERY stressed, and the resumption of the daily duties of the bees is the quickest way of restoring tranquility in the hive and the removal of stress. For that reason I chose to cage the queen from the hive I would use to merge the two colonies and simply dump the removal bees in mass into the hive. No smoke, no paper, just an overwhelming number of new bees into a hive that was already established with their queen caged so as the new bees could not harm her. As it turned out, the merge went flawlessly with little or no loss due to fighting. The problem arose when I released the queen and she was killed. When that happened I was surprised as I truly thought that by the bees behavior they would have accepted her as their queen as well. However, to discover what had happened, unbeknownst to me at the time, you will have to check out next week's video and see for yourself. Thanks for watching. God's peace Richard.
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@@JeffHorchoff thank you for explaining that Mr Ed. God Bless 👍
right at 20 minutes you can hear the tone of the bees change
Very good observation, and you are correct, the pitch changed slightly. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace.
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Well I am old and don't understand why you opened that box after just installing the bees . Robin
I change things up all the time, but generally after at least 24 hours after placing a queen into a queen less hive it is all right, not this time. Live and learn. Thanks for watching. God's peace.
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That makes me sick shame
Trust me, so was I. God's peace Nola.
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Hi, Mr. Ed. Love your devotion. This video made me think of alternative ways to introduce that last queen. Maybe, and just maybe, the queen-right colony could have been made queenless first, so they started emergency cells while the cut-out bees were dumped into a separate box with the caged queen. I'm guessing that the cut-out bees were already queenless long enough to want a queen, and maybe they would have eventually accepted the caged queen. If that happened, the cutout bees would be queen-right, while the former queen-right colony is still rearing queen cells. It would be possible then to knock down the queen cells, and after a queenless period, paper unite the two colonies.
Just a thought.
When trying to come up with a solution for getting the bees from the removal into a hive after their queen died, my first consideration was needing to do it a quickly as possible. After bees are removed from a structure they are VERY stressed, and the of resumption the daily duties of the bees is the quickest way of restoring tranquility in the hive and the removal of stress. For that reason I chose to cage the queen from the hive I would use to merge the two colonies and simply dump the removal bees bees in mass into the hive. No smoke, no paper, just an overwhelming number of new bees into a hive that was already established with their queen caged so as the new bees could not harm her. As it turned out, the merge went flawlessly with little or no loss due to fighting. The problem arose when I released the queen and she was killed. When that happened I was surprised as I truly thought that by the bees behavior they would have accepted her as their queen as well. However, to discover what had happened, unbeknownst to me at the time, you will have to check out next weeks video and see for yourself. Thanks for watching. God's peace William.
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I'll hazard a guess - somehow there was a rouge queen involved. @@JeffHorchoff
@@williamhesbach4072 May bee. You will just have to wait and see for yourself. God’s peace brother.
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When you feed the honey back to the bees is it straight honey or do you dilute it at all? Absolutely loving the content!! thank you and God bless!!
I use pure honey from cut outs. Nothing but the best for our girls! Thanks for your blessings and for watching. Until the next one, God's peace brother.
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Nature knows better sometimes
I guarantee a bee knows better what it wants than me. I'm learning every day. Thank you for your support and for watching Larry, you the man! God's peace brother.
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Brood makes good chicken feed.
That it does, and the chickens here at the abbey get a lot of drone comb...as well as maggots from wax moths and beetles. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace Jane.
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Is Yappy writing everyone's titles now?
I laughed so hard after reading your comment my stomach cramped up. Great comment, and I'm calling up Yappy and read it to him. Thanks for watching. God's peace.
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@@JeffHorchoff 😆😆😆
Mr Jeff, I'm not sure, but I don't think your gas cans are made of food grade plastic. I small watering can for plants may be better. They have some that have a long slim beak. An old tea pot may even do better.
I never considered that, but as the mixture is in the container for such a short period of time, less than an hour, it should bee alright. Thanks for watching. God's peace.
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Maybe I missed it...? But why cage the queen from the merged colony? Newspaper merge with the cutout bees on top for a slow introduction. Thoughts?
Bees that have been recently removed and are queen less have very different behavior. The method I used was one I thought would work...and it did, but not the way I thought it would. Stay tuned for next week's post to see the surprises these bees showed me. Thanks for watching. God's peace Chris.
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The Lord sets them up and takes them down. Blessed be the name of the Lord. Happy weekend and FALL too!
Jeff I had a hive that wouldn't accept a mated or virgin queen.the nuc I tried to introduce with quen they kill queen and made a cell. It wa time because the hold process took about a month and half to 2 mo ths hope allgoes well with yours.thank you for the video
Introducing a new queen is always risky, and the outcome is never predictable.Stay tuned for next week's post, another follow up with even more surprises. Thanks for watching. God's peace Russell.
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I'm wondering why you didn't put newspaper in between the 2 hives and let them chew through the paper to settle in..
The paper method does work and I have used it many times over the years, but in this instance, due to the circumstances of the bees I wanted to merge with the hive, it would not have worked, they were not an established hive. Thanks for watching. God's peace Sean.
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Tryin to rev up that hive? Is it premium or regular ? 🤣
Hundred octane, pure juice.Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace brother.
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Sorry about your queens Mr Ed . How many miles to the gallon do they get😂
Since bees run on a single cylinder, the milage is out of this world....just like the honey they make. Thanks for watching. God's peace Paul.
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@@JeffHorchoff brilliant thanks
So, is that the reason for keeping her separate for 3 days? Make them smell her and re-imprint to her?
That is the idea, but as you saw, it does not work every time. I am always learning. Thanks for watching. God's peace brother.
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I'm confused? I thought it was you who had the video on using newspaper to separate two colonies being introduced to each other - the queenless set up with enough food & water to stay alive while acclimating to the new hive? Maybe this is an old video? Maybe someone else? Whichever... This was really distressing to watch, knowing what you were risking would happen, and that it didn't have to happen. Here's me, screaming louder than in a horror movie, "Noooooo! Don't do it! Do. Not. Open. That. Doooooooooor!"😱
I have never used newspaper to merge colonies, but I know it would work as it slows the process of merging down and gives the bees in both boxes time to adjust. I too was distressed at the outcome of the introduced queen, but what I did not know is the bees had already made emergency queen cells and had decided that was the way they wanted to go. If you check out the video link below, the third in the series, you will find out for yourself how the bees made out. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace.
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If you're able to frame up the uncapped brood the same day are you able to salvage it?
That is exactly what I do. As soon as I get back I will frame up the comb that I removed from the cut out. God's peace.
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I had an experience like that, turned out their was a virgin Queen in there, they had killed the new Queen I had introduced
When trying to come up with a solution for getting the bees from the removal into a hive after their queen died, my first consideration was needing to do it as quickly as possible. After bees are removed from a structure they are VERY stressed, and the resumption of the daily duties of the bees is the quickest way of restoring tranquility in the hive and the removal of stress. For that reason I chose to cage the queen from the hive I would use to merge the two colonies and simply dump the removal bees in mass into the hive. No smoke, no paper, just an overwhelming number of new bees into a hive that was already established with their queen caged so as the new bees could not harm her. As it turned out, the merge went flawlessly with little or no loss due to fighting. The problem arose when I released the queen and she was killed. When that happened I was surprised as I truly thought that by the bees behavior they would have accepted her as their queen as well. However, to discover what had happened, unbeknownst to me at the time, you will have to check out next week's video and see for yourself. Thanks for watching. God's peace Marten.
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@@JeffHorchoff will be eagerly waiting for next one .
Mike always does a newspaper combine…
When trying to come up with a solution for getting the bees from the removal into a hive after their queen died, my first consideration was needing to do it as quickly as possible, the bees need to get reestablished. After bees are removed from a structure they are VERY stressed, and the resumption of the daily duties of the bees is the quickest way of restoring tranquility in the hive and the removal of stress. For that reason I chose to cage the queen from the hive I would use to merge the two colonies and simply dump the removal bees in mass into the hive. No smoke, no paper, just an overwhelming number of new bees into a hive that was already established with their queen caged so as the new bees could not harm her. As it turned out, the merge went flawlessly with little or no loss due to fighting. The problem arose when I released the queen and she was killed. When that happened I was surprised as I truly thought that by the bees behavior they would have accepted her as their queen as well. However, to discover what had happened, unbeknownst to me at the time, you will have to check out next week's video and see for yourself. Thanks for watching. God's peace Phillip.
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@@JeffHorchoff you had the original queen and didn’t know?
You are just going to have to wait till tomorrow and find out. God's peace brother.
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I don’t know if thing about bees. I do have a great interest in lots of curiosity, type questions. One item interested to know is why the conventional way of merging bees without a queen with bees who have a queen doesn’t work. Is there some rationale for inventing a method that isn’t generally used? Sure would like to hear some of your decision making thoughts on how and why. Thanks for any edification!
Because very often situations arise spontaneously when wrangling bees, and "conventional" methods wouldn't apply so, improvisation is necessary. In my opinion, this was one of those occasions. Something needed to be done so as not to lose the queen less hive, and done quickly. As it turned out, the merge worked flawlessly, it was the queen situation that did not work the way I had hoped. To find out how everything worked out in the end, you will have to check out next week's post and find out the surprise the bees had in store for me. Thanks for watching and asking. God's peace.
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Can't watch that with the sound way down, that gas can threw me & I had to pause and go back with the sound way up! lol
I'm feeding them the high octane stuff! Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace
@@JeffHorchoff I've been watching for quite a while. You and World Famous Mike Berry helped my friend Roxie up in Kentwood with her 8 foot tall hive in the old house. Thanks again for doing that cut-out. We're in Virginia but my wife used to live in Kentwood.
I’m surprised that none of you have heard about the newspaper way of integration of two different colonies of bees 🐝 into one hive this is done by using four separate pages of newspaper to place between two boxes of bees almost like a queen separation from the main brood box and you leave it in place for up to two weeks by this time the bees in the upper colony will have excepted the bottom colony and the paper can be removed of course you will need to feed the upper colony when doing this but it’s a good way of not loosing your queens?
Not only have I heard of using newspaper to merge colonies, but I have done it a bunch of times, and yes it does work very well. However in this case, the reason the queen was not accepted is the first hive had already started emergency cells and had made up their minds that that queen was going to be their queen, and if you look at the next video in this series, the third of 3 and the video link below, you will see the queen that emerged. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace Julian.
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Most dramatic thing I’ve ever seen
A lot of drama from these bees beginning when I removed them and relocated them to the abbey. When trying to come up with a solution for getting the bees from the removal into a hive after their queen died, my first consideration was needing to do it as quickly as possible. After bees are removed from a structure they are VERY stressed, and the resumption of the daily duties of the bees is the quickest way of restoring tranquility in the hive and the removal of stress. For that reason I chose to cage the queen from the hive I would use to merge the two colonies and simply dump the removal bees in mass into the hive. No smoke, no paper, just an overwhelming number of new bees into a hive that was already established with their queen caged so as the new bees could not harm her. As it turned out, the merge went flawlessly with little or no loss due to fighting. The problem arose when I released the queen and she was killed. When that happened I was surprised as I truly thought that by the bees behavior they would have accepted her as their queen as well. However, to discover what had happened, unbeknownst to me at the time, you will have to check out next week's video and see for yourself. Thanks for watching. God's peace Benjamin.
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mui bien papa
Can you give them some comb with developing queens in them, will they take those.
If you will check out my next Friday's post, you will see how the situation got handled. Hope to hear back from you on it. Thanks for watching. God's peace.
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What is the name of the tall green feathery weed by your shop?
I was told it was some type of fennel, but I'm not really sure. Great to hear from you Brother, a real joy knowing you are still watching, thank you for that. God's peace.
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Hi Mr Ed I had to put back getting my bees till the 19 September as they want to lop the trees or cut some of the trees next door so I’m waiting which is good for me as I’m waiting on half box and frames
Patience is one thing that keeping bees will teach you. God's peace Nola.
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Does anyone know if there ia a follow up to these girls? Did they make a new queen? This waa very fascinating to watch. I could feel his disappointment when the 2nd queen died.
The follow up video link is listed below, and what's really special is this Friday's post is a follow up from that video, you don't want to miss either one. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace Jenn.
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Thank You for the link. I love your videos and enjoy learning from your experience, knowledge, and skills. Thank You for sharing with us.
27 deg here double screen splits. ???. And what was mite count.???.
I never did a mite check so I couldn't say. God's peace Brett.
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What kind of bee vac you use
I use two different kinds of bee vacs, one that I made myself, video link below, and a battery powered vac, the Everything Bee Vac, which you can purchase from allmybees.com Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace Brian.
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🐞What is the concentration of your sugar water. Thanks. 🐞
I use a 2/1 ratio, I like it thick. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace Pearl.
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